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Title: Adding a Processor: Best Bang for the BucK
Post by: SRT82ECOBOOST on December 03, 2013, 11:50:50 AM
After having the suggestion put out there while upgrading the OEM Sony system to include a processor before my amplifiers, what recommendations do people have for best bang for the buck?
Note: Upgraded system will only be front soundstage components and subwoofer
Title: Re: Adding a Processor: Best Bang for the BucK
Post by: Lanson on December 03, 2013, 12:08:52 PM
One vote MS8.
Title: Re: Adding a Processor: Best Bang for the BucK
Post by: SRT82ECOBOOST on December 03, 2013, 12:18:20 PM
Quote from: Lanson on December 03, 2013, 12:08:52 PM
One vote MS8.
How come I knew that is where you would go. I am hoping for something that comes in a little cheaper.
Title: Re: Adding a Processor: Best Bang for the BucK
Post by: EcoPowerParts on December 03, 2013, 12:18:47 PM
I might have to use that in the V and do a sub, system is good but surprisingly not as good as the Flex.
Title: Re: Adding a Processor: Best Bang for the BucK
Post by: SRT82ECOBOOST on December 03, 2013, 12:24:24 PM
Quote from: 4DRHTRD on December 03, 2013, 12:18:47 PM
I might have to use that in the V and do a sub, system is good but surprisingly not as good as the Flex.
If are looking to go that route, Amazon has them for $443 right now.
Title: Re: Adding a Processor: Best Bang for the BucK
Post by: EcoPowerParts on December 03, 2013, 01:04:49 PM
Quote from: SRT82ECOBOOST on December 03, 2013, 12:24:24 PM
Quote from: 4DRHTRD on December 03, 2013, 12:18:47 PM
I might have to use that in the V and do a sub, system is good but surprisingly not as good as the Flex.
If are looking to go that route, Amazon has them for $443 right now.
Things I have to buy and install:
Blacked out headlights
Lower pulley
camshaft

Things I've bought that need to be installed:
Injectors
BAP
ZL1 lid
Nitrous setup from Flex

Once I get that done and have some 10 second slips I'll think about audio. :)
Title: Re: Adding a Processor: Best Bang for the BucK
Post by: Kolk1 on December 03, 2013, 02:31:13 PM
What about an Audison Bit 10? They tend to be about $400.

I know the Premium Sound Quality shop we have in St Louis, that's the cheapest one they offer. lol

Closest thing Ive used is the Kicker Sum8, and didn't really care for it. Kicker now has a Front Stage(or center stage) processor, and I wouldn't mind trying it out. I get kicker at about 75% off retail, so it would be dirt cheap to "try".

Edit: Kicker is called Front Row. Retail $250, my cost is well under $100. LOL
http://www.kicker.com/FrontRow (http://www.kicker.com/FrontRow)
Title: Re: Adding a Processor: Best Bang for the BucK
Post by: SRT82ECOBOOST on December 03, 2013, 02:40:20 PM
Quote from: Kolk1 on December 03, 2013, 02:31:13 PM
What about an Audison Bit 10? They tend to be about $400.

I know the Premium Sound Quality shop we have in St Louis, that's the cheapest one they offer. lol

Closest thing Ive used is the Kicker Sum8, and didn't really care for it. Kicker now has a Front Stage(or center stage) processor, and I wouldn't mind trying it out. I get kicker at about 75% off retail, so it would be dirt cheap to "try".

Edit: Kicker is called Front Row. Retail $250, my cost is well under $100. LOL
http://www.kicker.com/FrontRow (http://www.kicker.com/FrontRow)
If you can get me one for $100 I will give it a try for you.
Title: Re: Adding a Processor: Best Bang for the BucK
Post by: Lanson on December 03, 2013, 02:43:19 PM
Front Row looks cool, missing critical features of a processor (and amp channels) but might work, might not.

Was turned off by this line in the "Hype" section , "Simulated 5.1 Surround Sound "
Title: Re: Adding a Processor: Best Bang for the BucK
Post by: SRT82ECOBOOST on December 03, 2013, 02:44:54 PM
Not sure if the Kicker Front Row has line level inputs either.
Title: Re: Adding a Processor: Best Bang for the BucK
Post by: SRT82ECOBOOST on December 03, 2013, 02:46:37 PM
How about the JL Audio Cleansweep?
Title: Re: Adding a Processor: Best Bang for the BucK
Post by: SRT82ECOBOOST on December 03, 2013, 02:58:49 PM
Quote from: SRT82ECOBOOST on December 03, 2013, 02:44:54 PM
Not sure if the Kicker Front Row has line level inputs either.
Just read the manual and looks like it does not require a line level converter.
Title: Re: Adding a Processor: Best Bang for the BucK
Post by: Lanson on December 03, 2013, 03:02:05 PM
Quote from: SRT82ECOBOOST on December 03, 2013, 02:46:37 PM
How about the JL Audio Cleansweep?

Many channels enter

Two channels leave.
Title: Re: Adding a Processor: Best Bang for the BucK
Post by: SRT82ECOBOOST on December 03, 2013, 03:06:39 PM
How about some of the Audiocontrol products?
Title: Re: Adding a Processor: Best Bang for the BucK
Post by: LowFrequencies on December 03, 2013, 03:19:07 PM
Rockford Fosgate 3sixty! :)
Title: Re: Adding a Processor: Best Bang for the BucK
Post by: SRT82ECOBOOST on December 03, 2013, 04:41:40 PM
Is there anything at around $200 that will give decent performance and just give me a clean signal to run to my amps?
Title: Re: Adding a Processor: Best Bang for the BucK
Post by: Lanson on December 03, 2013, 05:01:21 PM
Quote from: SRT82ECOBOOST on December 03, 2013, 04:41:40 PM
Is there anything at around $200 that will give decent performance and just give me a clean signal to run to my amps?

Nope, just go direct.  You'll be fine. 

Or use line drivers.

These things are not processors though. 
Title: Re: Adding a Processor: Best Bang for the BucK
Post by: Fast SHO on December 03, 2013, 05:28:39 PM
Downside of the MS8 is that it is largely an automated process.

My local shop is trying to sell me on the Mosconi 6to8 DSP for $421.

http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/technical-advanced-car-audio-discussion/100887-mosconi-dsp-6to8-pics.html (http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/technical-advanced-car-audio-discussion/100887-mosconi-dsp-6to8-pics.html)
Title: Re: Adding a Processor: Best Bang for the BucK
Post by: Lanson on December 03, 2013, 06:21:28 PM
Quote from: Fast SHO on December 03, 2013, 05:28:39 PM
Downside of the MS8 is that it is largely an automated process.

My local shop is trying to sell me on the Mosconi 6to8 DSP for $421.

http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/technical-advanced-car-audio-discussion/100887-mosconi-dsp-6to8-pics.html (http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/technical-advanced-car-audio-discussion/100887-mosconi-dsp-6to8-pics.html)

Yes you are right, and I hate that it is automated.  BUT, it does work, and it is still tunable in ways that matter, so don't let it bother you so much, at least until you try it and see for yourself.

As for the Mosconi, heck yes awesome product, BUT does it do center channel?  I'd dig in the thread but A:  I'm banned from DIYMA (for calling Ant out for who he is), and B: I'm not looking at 51 pages of thread.  BTW, Ant ruined DIYMA.  I'm in there (as Fourthmeal), I was there before Ant and it was a much better site.  All the post-Ant people made other sites you can visit and learn more if you want.
Title: Re: Adding a Processor: Best Bang for the BucK
Post by: Fast SHO on December 03, 2013, 08:03:53 PM
I like to learn enough to just make sure my local shops don't screw me over.  I don't have the skill or time to full install myself.  Plus, if there weren't lazy asses like me how would a shop stay in business?

With that said.  What do you think of this install quote?

$420 for Mosconi 6to8 (I'm told this is a great deal)

Otherwise $1235 for install of front 6.5 components, two amps, tuning the DSP, completely sound deadening the front doors and trunk, and lastly supplying all the necessary wiring and dampening material.

I'm providing the front components, sub box, and amps, nothing else.

Seemed to be a good price to me given the inflated prices of the DC area.  Another shop quoted $2,030 for the same work without DSP tuning.
Title: Re: Adding a Processor: Best Bang for the BucK
Post by: Lanson on December 03, 2013, 09:06:49 PM
Quote from: Fast SHO on December 03, 2013, 08:03:53 PM
I like to learn enough to just make sure my local shops don't screw me over.  I don't have the skill or time to full install myself.  Plus, if there weren't lazy asses like me how would a shop stay in business?

With that said.  What do you think of this install quote?

$420 for Mosconi 6to8 (I'm told this is a great deal)

Otherwise $1235 for install of front 6.5 components, two amps, tuning the DSP, completely sound deadening the front doors and trunk, and lastly supplying all the necessary wiring and dampening material.

I'm providing the front components, sub box, and amps, nothing else.

Seemed to be a good price to me given the inflated prices of the DC area.  Another shop quoted $2,030 for the same work without DSP tuning.

It has the potential to be good but you are ditching your center entirely, right?  I don't think the Mosconi does center.  Or surround.
Title: Re: Adding a Processor: Best Bang for the BucK
Post by: Fast SHO on December 03, 2013, 09:13:32 PM
Only going to run a sub and front components, no surround or anything.  Going to run it active more than likely.
Title: Re: Adding a Processor: Best Bang for the BucK
Post by: EcoBrick Bob on December 03, 2013, 10:14:32 PM
What's a radio?? Do I have a "Sound System" in my Brick... Hell.. I thought my wife Wendy sounded good... so it ain't her?????

Actually , we have Costal Lock Pick in our system... so we only watch Porn when we drive down the Interstate...  Hell of a ride!!!
Title: Re: Adding a Processor: Best Bang for the BucK
Post by: Lanson on December 03, 2013, 11:18:23 PM
Quote from: Fast SHO on December 03, 2013, 09:13:32 PM
Only going to run a sub and front components, no surround or anything.  Going to run it active more than likely.

If you run without the stock center, then yes I think the Mosconi is a good choice just based off the price and the features.

Might be getting fleeced on the install, but then again it depends on the quality not the quantity, so we'll just have to see their work's end result and more important, we'll have to see if you are happy.
Title: Re: Adding a Processor: Best Bang for the BucK
Post by: Fast SHO on December 03, 2013, 11:43:36 PM
I always think the install prices are high but I get multiple estimates and this was in the middle for this area.

My  low quote for install/materials including LC7i was $950 but that is a shop that isn't into tuning DSP's etc...

The high quote was $2100 and that didn't even include the Mosconi DSP.

Shop doing the work goes by customaudioman on DIYMA and I checked out some of his builds he posts and they were solid.
Title: Re: Adding a Processor: Best Bang for the BucK
Post by: SRT82ECOBOOST on December 05, 2013, 08:22:19 AM
Is this a good compromise at good price, Audiocontrol LCQ-1:
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-MUs4lY854cr/p_161LCQ1/AudioControl-LCQ-1-White.html (http://www.crutchfield.com/S-MUs4lY854cr/p_161LCQ1/AudioControl-LCQ-1-White.html)
Title: Re: Adding a Processor: Best Bang for the BucK
Post by: Johng on December 25, 2013, 04:47:10 AM
I am running a JL Clean-sweep in existing F150 right now.  It works great and I can adjust bass level with the added sub volume control. I have JL Audio equipment with CS570's  in doors a JL 13" stealth box under rear seat all being ran by a hd900/5 amp.
My new truck will be running all Audison door speakers,Voce K5 components in front and coaxle in rear with the bit one processor and two JL 10' TW3 under rear seat.
I was very happy with my existing stereo that I planed to swap out and install in my new truck. I stopped in to make appointment and low and behold they just finished a new 150 with the Bit One and all above mentioned setup. I was blown away on how crisp and clean it sounded.
Title: Re: Adding a Processor: Best Bang for the BucK
Post by: twnscrw13 on January 05, 2014, 04:13:32 PM
Quote from: Fast SHO on December 03, 2013, 11:43:36 PM
I always think the install prices are high but I get multiple estimates and this was in the middle for this area.

My  low quote for install/materials including LC7i was $950 but that is a shop that isn't into tuning DSP's etc...

The high quote was $2100 and that didn't even include the Mosconi DSP.

Shop doing the work goes by customaudioman on DIYMA and I checked out some of his builds he posts and they were solid.

Hmm.. a local shop here quoted me $1600 to instal my MS-8 paired with an Alpine PDX-V9- stock speakers for now. (I have the ms8 already, the quote they gave me includes the v9).   

Does anyone have an opinion on the V9?  The online reviews seem pretty favorable.
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