So I have the new long block in, it seems smooth as glass. But my paranoid brain thinks the cooling fans are on too much. Here in Oregon it's 54' and about 75% humdity... But my fans are almost always on. I found the overflow cap loose and tightened it... But is there any special prep for the water pump when the block is installed ... The fan is 90-100% almost all the time I stop and listen for it. Will hook up the sct tool later.
So is there any special water pump steps before block installation?
What's everyones oerating temps for water and cylider heads.
Ty in advance.
If A/C is on whether for cooling or removal of humidity, fans will run. If they both run at startup at ambient with A/C off, then fan failure might have occurred.
No special prep for WP.
I cycled the AC SWITCH a number of times. I have not been on the highway yet so I need to try that and pull over rapidly and check fan status. Just unsure. I will check fan status on cold start in a little while..
Definitely overheating. On the freeway at 65mph it climbed to 265, and the temp guage started swinging g up.
Interesting bit, letting off the gas drops the temp 20 degrees for about 10 seconds..
I think there is air in the system for sure.. but I also think there's another temp issue as well because at 2500-3000 rpm it should flow enough to offset it.
:o something wrong with the install. The dealer needs to fix it. Hopefully just needs a burping, like you said. If the level in the reservoir dropped any after you let it cool down, that would lend support.
Quote from: SHOdded on April 20, 2019, 07:19:59 PM
:o something wrong with the install. The dealer needs to fix it. Hopefully just needs a burping, like you said. If the level in the reservoir dropped any after you let it cool down, that would lend support.
It is going back Monday for a second look.
day 3, no word back from mechanic.
My guess... the remanned block is bad, has issues with the cooling jackets. calling today in about 3 hours to poke the bad-news-bear.
Criminey!
Quote from: SHOdded on April 24, 2019, 04:01:06 PM
Criminey!
If my 'car' were a solid lead brick, as in a literal brick... it would have a bad motivator, keep luke at the farm, kill obi-wan, maul kittens and burst into flames.
I
just
can't
win ...
Just ... too ... funny! LOLOLOLOLOL
Quote from: SHOdded on April 24, 2019, 04:07:11 PM
Just ... too ... funny! LOLOLOLOLOL
o.0 sense humor is all I have left these days .. :P
Quote from: TopherSho on April 24, 2019, 04:12:53 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on April 24, 2019, 04:07:11 PM
Just ... too ... funny! LOLOLOLOLOL
o.0 sense humor is all I have left these days .. :P
Brand new Thermostat stuck 80% closed. LOL.... well fine thats cool with me. there burping it. pick it up tomorrow... *again*
:starwars:
That's good news. Fingers crossed it's the last fix for awhile
Yay!!! Time to enjoy!!!
Yup, good news, hope that's it. Another 50 miles to the 1st oil change, cutting open the filter. Then 300 more miles to the next oil change.. cut open that one too... Then 1100 miles to go.
The 1st 400 are still planned to be under 3000 rpm.
Ok, just to check with others, It's 70 outside, What is your coolant temp avg at on long stretches with steady gas at about 65-70 mph?
Should I put in a new 170 tstat? Does the livernois/Torrie/eccopower tstats flow more?
Quote from: TopherSho on April 25, 2019, 08:52:26 PM
Ok, just to check with others, It's 70 outside, What is your coolant temp avg at on long stretches with steady gas at about 65-70 mph?
Should I put in a new 170 tstat? Does the livernois/Torrie/eccopower tstats flow more?
Stock T-stat runs at 186 ish for me in 70 degree weather. These cars are designed to run at a certain temp. Ford designed them that way. IMO there is zero need in any clime or place for a "colder" T-stat other then the factory t-stat. It is a marketing gimmick...period.
http://www.tuneruniversity.com/blog/2012/04/low-temp-thermostats-whats-the-advantage/ (http://www.tuneruniversity.com/blog/2012/04/low-temp-thermostats-whats-the-advantage/)
#$%@ me, i thought so. im still running 215-230 degrees f ... where is this measured at? maybe the sending unit/sensor is bad...
Hey AJP? does your tune run the fans on a more aggressive curve ?
Yuk! Still a problem that has to be resolved by the dealer. But wondering if there any air bubbles in the system, which you can try "burping" it for. Also a thermal image of the radiator would reveal any hot/coldspots indicating radiator blockage. Maybe incorrect spark plugs have been installed? Might want to pull and check them (ALL of them).
Quote from: TopherSho on April 26, 2019, 01:01:26 PM
#$%@ me, i thought so. im still running 215-230 degrees f ... where is this measured at? maybe the sending unit/sensor is bad...
sensor is on the back of the head above the trans, I have a flex not SHO so air flow to radiator is different (worse) and on a 75 degree day doing pulls for logs I was at 182degrees. I have a 160tstat.
my fans shut off as soon as car is turned off?
i will take a look at the sensor wire/plug sigh ...
i am also going to put my non-meth tune back on if the strategy is the same as before. it should be fine and will run the fans on BRAD's tune. i just need to see the temp behavior under light loads with his old fan curve JUST to make sure .. but i expect high temps still
i really hate this cars utter complete unreliability ...
Quote from: TopherSho on April 26, 2019, 02:35:17 PM
i will take a look at the sensor wire/plug sigh ...
i am also going to put my non-meth tune back on if the strategy is the same as before. it should be fine and will run the fans on BRAD's tune. i just need to see the temp behavior under light loads with his old fan curve JUST to make sure .. but i expect high temps still
i really hate this cars utter complete unreliability ...
that is so weird, except my trans failure, I have full confidence in my car to drive anywhere.
So, here's a weird question, where else might the car be monitoring the temperature?. Because right now even though it's reading high on temp the fans are behaving exactly as I remember they only spend up every now and then and only go to about 50% and then kick off...
So from observed interpretation it seems to be operating normally it's the gauge that showing me an anomaly
Quote from: TopherSho on April 26, 2019, 02:48:27 PM
So, here's a weird question, where else might the car be monitoring the temperature?. Because right now even though it's reading high on temp the fans are behaving exactly as I remember they only spend up every now and then and only go to about 50% and then kick off...
So from observed interpretation it seems to be operating normally it's the gauge that showing me an anomaly
What is your SCT device saying?
CHT DEGF : 235
I will be perfectly happy if you call me an idiot and tell me I'm reading the wrong thing
Quote from: TopherSho on April 26, 2019, 02:54:16 PM
CHT DEGF : 235
I will be perfectly happy if you call me an idiot and tell me I'm reading the wrong thing
Offs.. cylinder head temp.. my sct has the wrong guages showing...
Idiot is me derrrrp
Quote from: TopherSho on April 26, 2019, 02:56:20 PM
Quote from: TopherSho on April 26, 2019, 02:54:16 PM
CHT DEGF : 235
I will be perfectly happy if you call me an idiot and tell me I'm reading the wrong thing
Offs.. cylinder head temp.. my sct has the wrong guages showing...
Idiot is me derrrrp
I have a solution....
Let's blame this on "Friday".
what was the actual gauge you were "mis-reading"?
Quote from: SHOdded on April 26, 2019, 03:29:14 PM
what was the actual gauge you were "mis-reading"?
*I* had the wrong gauges on display on the handheld .. looking at the data log now. BUT i did have a bad tstat so the 1st time that the mechanic replaced after the car gauge went up to the hot line
168f max temp... now that im looking at the correct guage after the almost-overheat and replacing the tstat... happy
Whew :) Enjoy!
Heh, I'm on to my new possible 'oh crap!' in my new thread :p
LOL