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Ecoboost Performance => Troubleshooting, Maintenance, TSB Articles => Maintenance, Oil, and Fluids => Topic started by: jtoddk98 on May 12, 2014, 10:03:37 PM

Title: Blue Coolant?
Post by: jtoddk98 on May 12, 2014, 10:03:37 PM
When cleaning under the hood today, I noticed my car has a dark blue coolant. I know the car was in a minor front end accident. all the parts were replaced with Ford Genuine. I thought Fords had a orangeish reddish coolant. Is my blue stuff crap that I should get flushed out quickly, or am I ok?
Title: Re: Blue Coolant?
Post by: FracaSHO on May 12, 2014, 10:12:46 PM
I have green in my 2010 SHO. You sure it wasn't green?


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170* T-Stat
NGK LTR7IX plugs, gap at 0.030
BOV VTA
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Title: Re: Blue Coolant?
Post by: SHOdded on May 12, 2014, 11:02:41 PM
Not looking at the windshield fluid reservoir by any chance?  Just asking!  If you can post a pic, that would help us see what's going on.
Title: Re: Blue Coolant?
Post by: ZSHO on May 13, 2014, 10:40:14 AM
I know the earlier sho has the green coolant,then on the later models they started using the orange,i would look at the manuel or go to ford,com,maybe the dumb*** added windshield fluid on top of radiator coolant.
Title: Re: Blue Coolant?
Post by: POPSTAGE2 on May 13, 2014, 12:50:26 PM
looked up in "Mitchell On Demand" which is what we use at my NAPA Store for our customers and I will quote.

"Twin Turbocharger; Motorcraft Specialty Green Engine Coolant or Motorcraft Specialty Orange Engine Coolant."
"Add the coolant type originally equipped in the vehicle. Check the coolant reservoir bottle labeling for the correct fluid type."
11.4QTS

That's word for word...
Title: Re: Blue Coolant?
Post by: FracaSHO on May 13, 2014, 01:05:02 PM

Quote from: POPSTAGE2 on May 13, 2014, 12:50:26 PM
looked up in "Mitchell On Demand" which is what we use at my NAPA Store for our customers and I will quote.

"Twin Turbocharger; Motorcraft Specialty Green Engine Coolant or Motorcraft Specialty Orange Engine Coolant."
"Add the coolant type originally equipped in the vehicle. Check the coolant reservoir bottle labeling for the correct fluid type."
11.4QTS

That's word for word...

That's whats owners manual says. There is no label on coolant reservoir bottle, at least on my car. Ford gave me orange. When I went to swap out my T stat, it was clearly green. So I had to go back.


Brad
2010 SHO with PP
170* T-Stat
NGK LTR7IX plugs, gap at 0.030
BOV VTA
MyCal LMS Stage 4+
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Title: Re: Blue Coolant?
Post by: SoCalSHO on May 13, 2014, 02:02:19 PM
Green coolant here, expensive.
Title: Re: Blue Coolant?
Post by: FracaSHO on May 13, 2014, 09:42:22 PM

Quote from: SoCalSHO on May 13, 2014, 02:02:19 PM
Green coolant here, expensive.

You are correct. Especially since it's not a 50/50 mix. But since I already bought the 50/50 orange and had to come back, they just took it back and handed me the green coolant. I had to add the water but hey, I saved some ca$h!


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2010 SHO with PP
170* T-Stat
NGK LTR7IX plugs, gap at 0.030
BOV VTA
MyCal LMS Stage 4+
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Title: Re: Blue Coolant?
Post by: SHO-Pa on May 14, 2014, 12:38:54 PM
Quote from: SoCalSHO on May 13, 2014, 02:02:19 PM
Green coolant here, expensive.

I have the green stuff in my 11. The reservoir has a pictogram showing "No Orange" coolant oddly enough.
Title: Re: Blue Coolant?
Post by: jtoddk98 on May 14, 2014, 10:51:17 PM
Ill get a picture when i get back in town this weekend. I know the car has all new radiators and intercoolers. The car went right into the back of a trailer hitch on an old pickup. punched a hole in the grille. Fixed using all ford genuine. I just don't know about the coolant. Its definitely not green or orange. Its dark blue. Like the color of the Ford emblem.
Title: Re: Blue Coolant?
Post by: SHOdded on May 14, 2014, 10:58:59 PM
Only addn'l thing I can think of is they put dye in it to check for leaks that turned the overall color a deep blue.
Title: Re: Blue Coolant?
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on May 14, 2014, 11:37:40 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on May 14, 2014, 10:58:59 PM
Only addn'l thing I can think of is they put dye in it to check for leaks that turned the overall color a deep blue.
This gorgeous master certified adviser I happen to be sitting next to says the UV reflective coolant dye used is greenish/yellowish.

OP, she also said to get that blue shite out of your car ASAP.

Title: Re: Blue Coolant?
Post by: JimiJak on May 15, 2014, 10:08:30 AM
Not sure if this helps, but back in my motocross / superbike days, we used to use a product called engine ice.
It was coolant with advanced heat dispersion properties... It was dark blue... And about $20/.5 gallons.
Title: Re: Blue Coolant?
Post by: BiGMaC on May 15, 2014, 10:17:06 AM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on May 14, 2014, 11:37:40 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on May 14, 2014, 10:58:59 PM
Only addn'l thing I can think of is they put dye in it to check for leaks that turned the overall color a deep blue.
This gorgeous master certified adviser I happen to be sitting next to says the UV reflective coolant dye used is greenish/yellowish.

OP, she also said to get that blue shite out of your car ASAP.

Not a Ford tech... but gotta X2 based on the OM and warning stickers on my coolant reservoir.
Title: Re: Blue Coolant?
Post by: jtoddk98 on May 17, 2014, 01:29:59 PM
Currently sitting at dealer. Having the coolant flushed and oil changed. Also had them look at my brakes. Need pads and rotors for the front. The tears are fine. They want $334 to do it. I thought that's crazy. Is there any aftermarket brakes you would recommend?


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Title: Re: Blue Coolant?
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on May 17, 2014, 02:21:45 PM
Look up the Powerstop top cop.

Let me know if you are successful, I've had a helluva time finding them.

Title: Re: Blue Coolant?
Post by: SHOdded on May 18, 2014, 03:58:47 AM
According to a search, for 2010-2012 SHO (at http://ecustomhitch.com (http://ecustomhitch.com) and http://store.trailers.com/ (http://store.trailers.com/)):

Power Stop - K5507-37 Power Stop 1-Click Top Cop Brake Kits Front
Power Stop - K4744-37 Power Stop 1-Click Top Cop Brake Kits Rear
Power Stop - K5508-37 Power Stop 1-Click Top Cop Brake Kits Front And Rear

12.79 in. Front/12.99 in. Rear Silver Zinc Plated Cross-Drilled And Slotted Rotors w/Z37 Brake Pads

Pads alone:  Front: Z37-1158, Rear: Z37-1377
Title: Re: Blue Coolant?
Post by: jtoddk98 on May 19, 2014, 05:57:56 PM
Got it changed out. Its dark green now. My dealer is a BG dealer so they added all the BG additives to the coolant. They told me that some cheep advance auto stuff was in there and it was good that I changed it out for the correct stuff. Now, I just need brakes.
Title: Re: Blue Coolant?
Post by: panther427 on May 19, 2014, 09:39:10 PM
Glad you got it changed out for the proper coolant
Title: Re: Blue Coolant?
Post by: jtoddk98 on June 19, 2014, 08:42:35 PM
Found one of my old android phones, installed torque. I have noticed that my coolant temps are high compared to others. On the highway cruising at 70, it's at about 200. If I let off the gas, it drops down to the normal 190ish. If I'm really on it, or in traffic, it can go upwards of 210. Does this mean I have air in my system from the coolant flush?


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Title: Re: Blue Coolant?
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on June 19, 2014, 10:00:08 PM
I never see temps like that unless I've been sitting in the staging area at the track for a while.
Title: Re: Blue Coolant?
Post by: jtoddk98 on June 19, 2014, 10:05:36 PM
Yeah. I have no clue why it's so high. How do you bleed the cooling system on these? I wonder if there are some air bubbles still


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Title: Re: Blue Coolant?
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on June 19, 2014, 10:10:47 PM
http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,2758.msg0.html#new (http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,2758.msg0.html#new)
Title: Re: Blue Coolant?
Post by: SHOdded on June 19, 2014, 10:14:06 PM
What are your ambient temps when you are taking note of the coolant temps?  Are you running your A/C all the time?  Do the radiator fans kick in at the appropriate time?  Good idea to check for air pockets, but may also be a candidate for a 170/160 tstat, with a tune that accounts for it.
Title: Re: Blue Coolant?
Post by: jtoddk98 on June 19, 2014, 10:43:04 PM
Ambient is usually high 80s low 90s here in Florida. A/C is always on. No clue about the fans. Am planning on getting a tune from unleashed this summer, possibly with a 3 bar map. Maybe I should go with the tstat too? Just worried about my Ford Premium care warranty...


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Title: Re: Blue Coolant?
Post by: SHOdded on June 20, 2014, 02:40:57 AM
I'd talk to Torrie and see if he can adjust the stock tune to turn the fans on earlier, without changing anything else.  Changing something as simple as a TStat wouldn't void the warranty, i don't think, unless you are extremely irresponsible in some way.  If anything, you are helping the longevity of the engine/transmission by keeping temps low.

Been a month now.  Coolant still dark green?

Title: Re: Blue Coolant?
Post by: jtoddk98 on June 20, 2014, 01:43:55 PM
Just went out to check my coolant level. Car is cold. It's down below the cold range. What can I use to top it up?


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Title: Re: Blue Coolant?
Post by: wasinger3000 on June 20, 2014, 01:51:47 PM
Doesn't look to be seriously low. If you don't have the recommended coolant laying around you can just top it off with water. Just make sure you use a coolant tester to make sure your freeze level is correct for your area.

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Title: Re: Blue Coolant?
Post by: jtoddk98 on June 20, 2014, 01:57:07 PM
Distilled water correct? Is it ok to top up with water without throwing off the coolant properties? Doesn't freeze down in Florida so that's not a problem. Just don't want to promote corrosion or leave deposits in my system


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Title: Re: Blue Coolant?
Post by: SHOdded on June 20, 2014, 02:18:14 PM
Distilled water should work fine.
Title: Re: Blue Coolant?
Post by: wasinger3000 on June 20, 2014, 03:40:11 PM
Yeah just use distilled water. You won't be putting in enough to offset the coolants effectiveness. Just don't put more than a gallon in. You could always just put in a bottle of coolant additive, it will most likely be enough to get the coolant level up to where you need.

A lot of people use it. Only thing with the specific brand "redline water wetter" is in some ford's it will cause a brown sludge to form. So I tested a few different brands and found that lucas oil's coolant additive was the safest for the sho. It didn't cause any formations or discoloration. In my tests.

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Title: Re: Blue Coolant?
Post by: jtoddk98 on June 20, 2014, 07:40:41 PM
Got a thing of distiller water. Will put it in when the cars cold tomorrow morning. Temp went to 203 at a traffic light today. Fans running


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Title: Re: Blue Coolant?
Post by: ShoBoat on June 21, 2014, 07:43:50 AM
On mine I saw temps in the mid 190's all the time. 203 isn't all that bad considering where you live. What is the highest temp you have seen? I went with the 170 stat and mine ranges from 178 to 185 now. But I have seen it go to 190 occasionally.


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Title: Re: Blue Coolant?
Post by: panther427 on June 21, 2014, 02:18:12 PM
Did you try royal purples coolant additive?? My car did hit 210 at the end of the quarter mile. Other than that 200 is normal for stop and go with air con on.
Title: Re: Blue Coolant?
Post by: jtoddk98 on June 21, 2014, 05:03:47 PM
I topped it up with distilled water. Didn't take much. Car already had the BG additives


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Title: Re: Blue Coolant?
Post by: wasinger3000 on June 21, 2014, 11:19:42 PM
Quote from: jtoddk98 on June 21, 2014, 05:03:47 PM
I topped it up with distilled water. Didn't take much. Car already had the BG additives


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The BG coolant additive only revitalizes coolant. The others aid the cooling system on a chemical level.

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Title: Re: Blue Coolant?
Post by: avidmotion on July 21, 2018, 11:49:25 AM
Going to change n flush my coolant. I have a 2013 SHO with PP. It has the orange coolant now. What is the current best fluid for my car. Stock thermo, NJ weather and 67,500 miles.
Thanks
Title: Re: Blue Coolant?
Post by: ZSHO on July 21, 2018, 01:28:54 PM
Quote from: avidmotion on July 21, 2018, 11:49:25 AM
Going to change n flush my coolant. I have a 2013 SHO with PP. It has the orange coolant now. What is the current best fluid for my car. Stock thermo, NJ weather and 67,500 miles.
Thanks
The Motorcraft orange coolant is specifically made for the 13 SHO & wouldn't use any other alternative especially if you have warranty IMHO! 
I had my coolant flushed out twice,both @ 30K intervals.  Z

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Title: Re: Blue Coolant?
Post by: SHOdded on July 21, 2018, 01:31:23 PM
Orange coolant is fine provided you change it within 5 yrs or 50k miles.  Or if you really really want to, you can switch to Peak Universal Extended Life coolant.  Same intervals.  50/50 should be fine.  Key is keeping coolant fresh.
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