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Title: Time has come to do front brakes on the 13' PP.
Post by: Vortech347 on March 23, 2018, 01:10:30 PM
I have a 13' with the PP and 49k miles.  Few quick questions... 

#1.  Do the factory rotors have enough meat on them to handle being turned?  If this were a car I tracked and auto-x'd I wouldn't turn, but as a daily, I'm not worried about it.

#2.  If not turnable, were is the best place to source the vented hub design OEM rotors.  I've heard they have been discontinued?  I absolutely want the vented hub ones.

#3.  Since I have the PP I'd like to get the same specific compound that was stock.  I think it worked well for my driving style.   Looks like those are still in production correct?

Thanks!!
Title: Re: Time has come to do front brakes on the 13' PP.
Post by: Bronco2fan on March 23, 2018, 01:49:49 PM
The rotors on these things are pretty stout so if they're not jacked up they probably can be turned.  Dealerships have all the stock replacements available for them too. You can also try Rockauto as they sell Fomoco parts as well. Lots of brake parts available for this platform. stock and after market.
Title: Re: Time has come to do front brakes on the 13' PP.
Post by: ZSHO on March 23, 2018, 02:20:40 PM
The rotors with the inverted cooling vanes are no longer produced IIRC but the the brake pads should have the same formulation AFAIK!

The 13+PP Brake pad part numbers are listed below.  Z

FRONT

DG1Z2001F Brake Pads

REAR

DG1Z2200B Brake Pads

Title: Re: Time has come to do front brakes on the 13' PP.
Post by: LostnEye on March 23, 2018, 02:59:14 PM
I did front brakes a few months ago and the new motorcraft rotors do not have vented hubs
Title: Re: Time has come to do front brakes on the 13' PP.
Post by: SilvererSHO on March 23, 2018, 06:21:57 PM
What do you guys mean when you say "vented hubs"?
Title: Re: Time has come to do front brakes on the 13' PP.
Post by: ZSHO on March 23, 2018, 06:47:09 PM
https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,8313.msg125650.html#msg125650 (https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,8313.msg125650.html#msg125650)  .Z


Cooling/Vented vanes

(https://i.imgur.com/USnuKj7m.jpg)

Without cooling vanes

(https://i.imgur.com/k1Sq8BXh.jpg)
Title: Re: Time has come to do front brakes on the 13' PP.
Post by: SHOdded on March 23, 2018, 08:26:09 PM
maybe they got better heat dissipation from more iron than from the cooling vanes?  or some other issue like rust or mfr'ing cost?
Title: Re: Time has come to do front brakes on the 13' PP.
Post by: derfdog15 on March 23, 2018, 09:14:33 PM
Just looking at them, the previous version isnt as structurally sound, and manufacturing would be a more expensive process due to tooling. Both the previous and new version are 'vented' rotors though, which is all you should be worried about. You can see in both cases the vents in the actual rotors (not the stuff at the hub). Go with the current production part and be done with it.
Title: Re: Time has come to do front brakes on the 13' PP.
Post by: Vortech347 on March 24, 2018, 11:27:27 PM
Thanks for the info.  I'll get the pads on the way and keep my fingers crossed I can turn the rotors.

Any aftermarket companies that make the vented hub rotors?  I looked on RockAuto and some have photos of the rotors being hub vented.
Title: Re: Time has come to do front brakes on the 13' PP.
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on March 25, 2018, 12:01:02 AM
I'm really happy with the EBC setup.

Title: Re: Time has come to do front brakes on the 13' PP.
Post by: 5ohSHO on March 25, 2018, 07:00:32 AM
I got my pads and rotors from NAPA and they gave me vented hub fronts. I didn't specifically ask for them so if you go there you might want to ask first. This was several months ago.
Title: Re: Time has come to do front brakes on the 13' PP.
Post by: ZSHO on March 25, 2018, 08:13:55 AM
I guess you can still find some of the original rotors floating around,but make certain the part number is DG1Z-1125-C which later was revised to GG1Z-1125-A . Z
Title: Re: Time has come to do front brakes on the 13' PP.
Post by: SHOdded on March 25, 2018, 08:26:02 AM
The revision numbers actually went backwards, or ...?
Title: Re: Time has come to do front brakes on the 13' PP.
Post by: ZSHO on March 25, 2018, 08:35:35 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on March 25, 2018, 08:26:02 AM
The revision numbers actually went backwards, or ...?
The part numbers get more confusing by the day! Dunno. Z  :(

DG1Z-1125-C
Base No.   1125
Part Description   ROTOR ASY
Service Part May Differ From Production

Require Quantity   2
Package Quantity   1
Replaced By   GG1Z-1125-A


https://www.fordpartsgiant.com/parts/ford-rotor-asy_dg1z-1125-c.html?Vin=1FAHP2KT5DG183206&Filter=()&Location=front-brake-discs-and-calipers,,1125 (https://www.fordpartsgiant.com/parts/ford-rotor-asy_dg1z-1125-c.html?Vin=1FAHP2KT5DG183206&Filter=()&Location=front-brake-discs-and-calipers,,1125)
Title: Re: Time has come to do front brakes on the 13' PP.
Post by: derfdog15 on March 25, 2018, 10:14:44 AM
Ford chances the First letter (in this case D to G) in the part numbers when they make later revisions. hence DG1Z to GG1Z from old to new. Just means there were a few extra changes/revisions between the two since it didn't go D to E
Title: Re: Time has come to do front brakes on the 13' PP.
Post by: klrsmith on May 27, 2018, 06:09:45 PM
These are the front Powerstop slotted rotors I ordered (and installed), they definitely have the vented hubs.  Rears were not vented.

Stoptech Cryostop Hi-Carbon Slotted Brake Rotor- Front Right- (126.65136CSR)
Stoptech Cryostop Hi-Carbon Slotted Brake Rotor- Front Left- (126.65136CSL)


Title: Re: Time has come to do front brakes on the 13' PP.
Post by: RAYJAY on May 27, 2018, 10:34:27 PM
Quote from: 5ohSHO on March 25, 2018, 07:00:32 AM
I got my pads and rotors from NAPA and they gave me vented hub fronts. I didn't specifically ask for them so if you go there you might want to ask first. This was several months ago.

do you have the napa part numbers for the rotors
Title: Re: Time has come to do front brakes on the 13' PP.
Post by: 5ohSHO on May 28, 2018, 12:04:38 AM
I don't have the specific PN, but if you go on NAPA's website and search rotors for the PI all of the pics they have show vented hub front rotors. Still would be a good idea to call your local store to verify that what they have on hand.
Title: Re: Time has come to do front brakes on the 13' PP.
Post by: Vortech347 on September 11, 2018, 05:22:54 PM
Pads I used....BRSD1611A
Rotors I used...NBRR-21

A friend at Ford matched my VIN to these so I could keep the upgraded PP pads and the vented rotors.

The factory rotors were damn near sized to the hubs.  It took a large hammer rather than a mallet to finally get them off. The next owner will thank me that I coated everything with anti-size and took a wire wheel to clean up all the mating surfaces so there are no vibrations.

Also noticed, passenger side pads were hammered...minimal material left.  Driver side had about 40% left.  After noticing this I'll plan on bleeding the brakes soon.  I didn't have time since I only had a little over an hour while my kid was in Kindergarten.

Title: Re: Time has come to do front brakes on the 13' PP.
Post by: SHOdded on September 11, 2018, 05:48:15 PM
Looking forward to your review of the new equipment!
Title: Re: Time has come to do front brakes on the 13' PP.
Post by: Vortech347 on September 11, 2018, 05:57:08 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on September 11, 2018, 05:48:15 PM
Looking forward to your review of the new equipment!

After the coating wore off where the pad contacts the rotor my new car pedal feel is back.  It's grabbing much higher, modulation is light years better, and as they get warm they work better.

Oh, and for reference my car has 56k miles.
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