With the all the talk of hydro lock and blown engines, and no real safe way to empty your CAC without taking it out of the car. Or drilling a drain into the bottom of the CAC. I took it upon myself to figure this one out. I started out with this setup. It did the job but took a while and the lift wasn't the greatest. It's actually an air powered cleaning wand. The lift comes from the solution tube, this is the one you would put down the CAC.
I would to point out that I used this method due to the unknown nature of the fluid in the CAC. If it's flammable you really don't want to use an electric vacuum. Unless it's explosion poof and designed to pick up flammable liquids.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7137/13904216156_05a83389be_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nbEK3L)Intaking draining 9 (https://flic.kr/p/nbEK3L) by sho.boat (https://www.flickr.com/people/123563504@N08/), on Flickr
I then acquired this bad boy.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3780/14072593670_f2fecb77a8_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nrxHPm)Air powered Vac (https://flic.kr/p/nrxHPm) by sho.boat (https://www.flickr.com/people/123563504@N08/), on Flickr
This is an actual air powered vac. This worked wonders.
So this is how I did it.
First remove the engine cover as it makes it easier to work on.
You will need to remove the intake pipe from the CAC to the throttle body. There are 2 hose clamps holding it in place.
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2917/14236138586_a0878a6d6c_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nFZW2h)Intake pipe 2 (https://flic.kr/p/nFZW2h) by sho.boat (https://www.flickr.com/people/123563504@N08/), on Flickr
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5112/14279438663_7cff5cd130_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nKPRCk)Intake pipe 3 (https://flic.kr/p/nKPRCk) by sho.boat (https://www.flickr.com/people/123563504@N08/), on Flickr
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2927/14258884634_fc41acc7a1_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nJ1vCw)Intake pipe 1 (https://flic.kr/p/nJ1vCw) by sho.boat (https://www.flickr.com/people/123563504@N08/), on Flickr
Loosen the 2 clamps, remove the noise generator and disconnect the sensor on the tube just before the throttle body. Slide the upper tube off the throttle body and then twist and slide up to remove the bottom portion of the tube. It it doesn't slide off easily loosen the clamps some more.
With the intake tube off you can now check how much crud you have in the CAC, the easiest way is you insert the oil dip sick carefully down into the CAC. So pull it out clean it off and gently stick it in.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3752/14072552169_b0f67805e0_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nrxvtP)Dipstick in CAC (https://flic.kr/p/nrxvtP) by sho.boat (https://www.flickr.com/people/123563504@N08/), on Flickr
Ensure you hit bottom on the CAC then again carefully slide it out and check the level. Here was mine before.
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5533/14236076776_bfeb129bf0_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nFZBDA)Dipstick before (https://flic.kr/p/nFZBDA) by sho.boat (https://www.flickr.com/people/123563504@N08/), on Flickr
Hmm not good, seems like I have some crud in there? It feels like oil with lightly less viscosity than what is in the engine. Okay time to get that stuff out of there. With a decent sized compressor and the above mentioned vac, attach a reducer to the inlet, preferably 3/8 clear hose. This was you can monitor your progress. Also it is beneficial to jack up the car slightly on the driver side to get the liquid to pool on the passenger side as this is where we are drawing out the fluid. Carefully slide the hose down into the CAC, ensure that you get right down to the bottom. Once at the bottom begin drawing out the fluid. You should see within a few seconds fluid in the hose. If you don't adjust the hose to ensure that you are on the bottom.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3781/14258826634_579cb8dd0d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nJ1dow)Air powered Vac 2 (https://flic.kr/p/nJ1dow) by sho.boat (https://www.flickr.com/people/123563504@N08/), on Flickr
Here is a shot of the inside of the CAC, sorry for the poor quality pic. This was the best I could get.
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After a few minutes you should see that the hose isn't picking up anything else. Its time to check the level again.
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2919/14236077086_5d917f3f80_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nFZBJW)Dipstick after (https://flic.kr/p/nFZBJW) by sho.boat (https://www.flickr.com/people/123563504@N08/), on Flickr
Sweet hardly anything left. If you are like me you will try again just to be safe. Reassemble and remove your jack. Now you can rest assured that your CAC is empty!
You may also want to check this hose to see if you have any oil in it.
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5031/14072553079_f00d083d5d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nrxvKv)Hot side rear turbo pipe (https://flic.kr/p/nrxvKv) by sho.boat (https://www.flickr.com/people/123563504@N08/), on Flickr
I have heard that the EB does have some oil seep out of the turbo seals by design. Too much (whatever that means) would indicate a bad seal, the front turbo is a lot harder to check.
Tracy at RX recommends that you drain the CAC when installing a catch can system. As the transverse EB is a real PITA to get the CAC out of the car, this should at least get the job done of removing the fluid out. I hope this clear, let me know of you guys have any questions.
I remember you posting this a while back .
Thanks for your contributions to the membership and for making this an "official " How To .
Anytime, I would hate to see another hydro lock blown engine.
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Gotta love these homegrown How To's! The true spirit of exploration :thumb:
On a scale of 1 to 10, how difficult is this to do, for a person with average mechanical skills, ShoBoat, in your opinion? You seem to be a pretty handy guy!
If you have the equipment, it's a piece if cake. I would say a 4 out if 10 on difficulty. It took me all of 30 min to complete. The cost is also cheap, total cost without the compressor is about $60.00 for the vac and hoses. I would encourage you guys to just at least check your fluid level in the cac. This takes all of 10 min when the car is cool.
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Outstanding work ShoBoat!
It would be interesting if anyone trying this method would post their findings here. I would be interested in finding out how much if any fluid is in other CACs.
This is excellent!!! Good thought out procedure here. double thumbs up.
Thanks Tracy!
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I did this yesterday, exactly as shoboat described. It was very simple.
Here a video.
2010 Taurus SHO intercooler draining: http://youtu.be/LDvJwq7HXCc
http://youtu.be/sYDG9nfWlwU
http://youtu.be/nIQF5PQjsaM
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Glock-coma, amazing vids! Do you have any idea how much you took out?
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Is that the intake opening on the right?
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Glock-coma, amazing vids! Do you have any idea how much you took out?
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I only got out about 3-4 ounces.
I'll take a pic of the water bottle it's in when I get home.
I was waiting until it separates to take the pic.
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on June 01, 2014, 12:36:21 PM
Is that the intake opening on the right?
All the videos are looking straight down from the passenger side CAC hose opening.
The silver "fins" that you see are coming from the drivers side.
I'm in the process of draining mine right now and discovered something. When removing the noise maker, I found a red O ring split and partially lying out of its groove. By looking at the split ends it looks like a 3/8 inch chunk may be missing. That's not the way it's supposed to look is it?
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I'm in the process of draining mine right now and discovered something. When removing the noise maker, I found a red O ring split and partially lying out of its groove. By looking at the split ends it looks like a 3/8 inch chunk may be missing. That's not the way it's supposed to look is it?
Not it's not, it should form a complete seal around the opening. If you are missing a chunk it could lead to a boost leak. I would try to get a replacement as soon as you can.
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How many miles were on your car when you did this? Im at 17k right now and wonder if i should expect to see a small lake down there.
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How many miles were on your car when you did this? Im at 17k right now and wonder if i should expect to see a small lake down there.
If your asking me. 33,xxx
Same here, about 35k miles
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Glock-coma, it looks like from your vid there is a fair bit sitting on the fins of the CAC. I wonder if we could blow that stuff off the fins using the intake side of the CAC. Then have it settle on the passenger side and suck it out. I guess a hepa vac with an exhaust port would do the trick. Whatever is used it would need to be filtered air. We really don't want to compound the issue by adding a bunch of dust in the CAC. I'll have to dig something up and give it a try. By the way. What camera are u using? The quality is really good.
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I checked their website yesterday, I was curious what it cost......$4,000
I really hope my boss didn't pay that much for it.
No wonder the quality was that good lol. I don't think I'll be picking up one anytime soon.
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Quote from: Larrylu on June 01, 2014, 01:11:40 PM
I'm in the process of draining mine right now and discovered something. When removing the noise maker, I found a red O ring split and partially lying out of its groove. By looking at the split ends it looks like a 3/8 inch chunk may be missing. That's not the way it's supposed to look is it?
Not it's not, it should form a complete seal around the opening. If you are missing a chunk it could lead to a boost leak. I would try to get a replacement as soon as you can.
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That's what I thought too. Nice to have another opinion. Found a hardware store "O ring" for the time being. Even if not OE part....better than missing a chunk. Will visit dealer tomorrow. Thanks for the assist!
^^ glad to be of service.
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Smart! Thanks for throwing a how-to together.
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I know on the f150 forum a lot of people did a temporary fix of drilling a tiny hole in the intercooler to allow the conglomerate of crap to blow out under boost. Not sure of the long term issues this could cause. Some actually put a small valve in the bottom to drain as well.
Excellent how to ShoBoat. I did not succeed with gunk removal I think because my suction tube might need to be a bit smaller. The dipstick shows at least 1/2 inch down there but I only sucked up a half ounce or so. Sucking up a lot of bubbles like the tube was right at the surface so will try again with a smaller line. Bonus was finding boost leak when I'm trying to figure out if my performance is indeed more anemic than it should be. Very glad you came up with this procedure.
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Quick little liquid vac I made. Just an idea for anyone else.
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Maybe we could all get one of those AITs if the decimal point shifted 2 to the left!
Nice idea, wasinger :thumb:
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Quick little liquid vac I made. Just an idea for anyone else.
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Just be aware that the vapour maybe explosive, I caution anyone trying this, just to be safe the vac should be rated for flammable liquids. Just to be safe.
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Just be aware that the vapour maybe explosive, I caution anyone trying this, just to be safe the vac should be rated for flammable liquids. Just to be safe.
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Good point. Forgot to mention that. I need to put a warning label in all my posts hah.
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Just be aware that the vapour maybe explosive, I caution anyone trying this, just to be safe the vac should be rated for flammable liquids. Just to be safe.
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Good point. Forgot to mention that. I need to put a warning label in all my posts hah.
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This would also work with the compressed air vac. That would allow you to measure the amount of crud you get out of the CAC.
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Just be aware that the vapour maybe explosive, I caution anyone trying this, just to be safe the vac should be rated for flammable liquids. Just to be safe.
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Good point. Forgot to mention that. I need to put a warning label in all my posts hah.
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This would also work with the compressed air vac. That would allow you to measure the amount of crud you get out of the CAC.
Yeah that would work great as well. I'm going to attach my inspection camera about an 1" from the end of my suction tube and see what I can get out tomorrow. I'll post a pic if it's a notable amount. I'll also poke around in the intake to look for carbon. Maybe the compressor side of the turbo as well.
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Excellent videos. Good job!!
Hey ShoBoat, do you have a part number, etc, for that vacuum pump you used? Googling air powered vacuum pumps I did not find anything near that nice. Would love to try this myself, will at least give me some piece of mind until x-mas when I can get a catch can :)
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Hey ShoBoat, do you have a part number, etc, for that vacuum pump you used? Googling air powered vacuum pumps I did not find anything near that nice. Would love to try this myself, will at least give me some piece of mind until x-mas when I can get a catch can :)
This would do the job.
http://usatoolsinc.com/dualfunctionairpoweredvacuumcleanerkitsunsx1000.aspx
It's an air powered vacuum. The one I have I purchased used.
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Anyone near NE Ohio is more than welcome to stop by and use my scope/ fluid pump.
I actually found this, it looks like it might be perfect, for $40 or so gonna try it
http://www.amazon.com/America-5060-Topsider-Multi-Purpose-Removing/dp/B001445IZ8/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top (http://www.amazon.com/America-5060-Topsider-Multi-Purpose-Removing/dp/B001445IZ8/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top)
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I actually found this, it looks like it might be perfect, for $40 or so gonna try it
http://www.amazon.com/America-5060-Topsider-Multi-Purpose-Removing/dp/B001445IZ8/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top (http://www.amazon.com/America-5060-Topsider-Multi-Purpose-Removing/dp/B001445IZ8/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top)
That should work also!
Same here if you are in the GTA and want to swing by, I can give you a hand with this. Send me a PM.
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If you have an air compresser and a blow gun nozzle. You get a piece of tubing like the 3/8 hoses used for catch can. Make a small notch that the blow gun will fit. And you blow away from the car towards your empty jug. It will work too. Used to do this to empty radiator to swap t. Stats or change upper hopes..
Great idea, panther!
You all know what sets this forum apart from the hate one, you guys all seem to put your minds together and come up with great ideas like this, and alternate/better mount locations, etc. Really like to interact where there are other brains working and seeing things I may not be thinking of. Hats off to all!!!
Oh, we still desperately need a F150 EB for the new CNC throttle body testing for mid next week now. (were in West cent FL gulf beaches area). Owner gets free dyno sessions and a FREE first release CNC pattern port throttle body, and initial testing of the prototypes showed great gains.
Email us at: RXProducts@aol.com if you can.
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All the goodies are always in Florida. :/
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I just check my intercooler and there isn't a single drop of fluid in it. I'll post the video in a min.
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Bone dry? Weird. How many miles?
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Quote from: ShoBoat on June 03, 2014, 01:51:28 PM
Bone dry? Weird. How many miles?
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Yeah it is dry. I'm at 18k right now. I was expecting some oil at least.
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Here is a video. Hard to see but it is a $25 usb cam. You can see the dip stick in the video to the left. Nothing is on it when i pull it out either.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJnf2XaNH_w&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJnf2XaNH_w&feature=youtu.be)
What is your normal driving day like, wasinger? Feathering the pedal, stop-n-go, lots of boost time? Only a drop of waste here & there, for sure!
Would like to have Nighthawk do his IC also, he's got a hi-mileage SHO.
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What is your normal driving day like, wasinger? Feathering the pedal, stop-n-go, lots of boost time? Only a drop of waste here & there, for sure!
Would like to have Nighthawk do his IC also, he's got a hi-mileage SHO.
I only drive the car on the weekends which most likely allows the moisture to evaporate. But I expected an oily sludge if anything.
My driving habits are mixed. Some weeks I'll be doing lots of WOT data logs back to back and some weekends I'll just cruise around.
I poked the camera around the intake valves and they are dirty. More than I'd like them to be. I'll upload that video tonight. Maybe you guys can tell me if the build up is excessive.
Meth kit is next on the mod list for sure. Just wish I could use the max mpg snow kit.
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Interesting, I wonder how much if any this buildup in the CAC is location dependant?
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Here is the humidity average where I live. So it can be compared to others.
The relative humidity typically ranges from 37% (comfortable) to 88% (very humid) over the course of the year, rarely dropping below 18% (dry) and reaching as high as 100% (very humid).
The air is driest around July 8, at which time the relative humidity drops below 44% (comfortable) three days out of four; it is most humid around May 28, exceeding 82% (humid) three days out of four.
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Great how to! Thanks for adding to the list of must do's.
Just checked mine (I'm at 70k) and there is a good amount in there, about as much is shown on my dip stick as the first post. I tried to such as much out as possible but I couldn't seem to get much more than maybe a teaspoon. If I stick my dipstick down there, it still shows more. I'll be taking the front bumper off soon to remove the grille, and when I do I'll take a look at maybe putting a valve in the bottom of the CAC to be able to drain it easier. I will also be looking into getting an oil separator, thinking about a JLT for now.
Rich mentioned that you could jack up the front driver side so the crud flows over to the passenger side. Should be able to drain out significantly more that way.
I had mine performed at the dealer with a compressor suction gun which pretty much sucked it up but the ocd in me purchased a 3' drain opener and securly attached a microfiber cloth to it,probably help with anything left behind.Z
Nice, Z!
Bringing this thread back! Just checked mine and there's close to a 1/4" on the dipstick. More than i'd like to see for sure.
Quote from: nickstewartroc on April 19, 2015, 12:43:23 PM
Just checked mine (I'm at 70k) and there is a good amount in there, about as much is shown on my dip stick as the first post. I tried to such as much out as possible but I couldn't seem to get much more than maybe a teaspoon. If I stick my dipstick down there, it still shows more. I'll be taking the front bumper off soon to remove the grille, and when I do I'll take a look at maybe putting a valve in the bottom of the CAC to be able to drain it easier. I will also be looking into getting an oil separator, thinking about a JLT for now.
^ Wondering if anyone has done a drainplug/petcock in the CAC? How difficult do you guys think that would be? Obviously it would have to have a good seal but the idea of just opening a valve and sucking the fluid out the bottom every 10k or so is pretty appealing.
Also,don't see why a cheap tool like this wouldn't work to drain it from the top. Just drop the hose into the CAC opening and spray away
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-Siphon-Spray-Blow-Gun-9045734/203153526?cm_mmc=SEM%7cTHD%7cG%7c0%7cG-PLA-BT3-Husky-D25T-Tools%7c&gclid=Cj0KEQjw9b6-BRCq7YP34tvW_uUBEiQAkK3svUhx_wuJt0UbVJRj_ZDCuO0XU8ajK-iKEyCMnMzqRRAaAp-z8P8HAQ&gclsrc=aw.ds (http://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-Siphon-Spray-Blow-Gun-9045734/203153526?cm_mmc=SEM%7cTHD%7cG%7c0%7cG-PLA-BT3-Husky-D25T-Tools%7c&gclid=Cj0KEQjw9b6-BRCq7YP34tvW_uUBEiQAkK3svUhx_wuJt0UbVJRj_ZDCuO0XU8ajK-iKEyCMnMzqRRAaAp-z8P8HAQ&gclsrc=aw.ds)
The CAC is NOT an oil catch can that comes with a drain valve and would advise to Only Use a suction type compressor air gun on TOP to suck out any trapped oil inside the CAC as seen on my video and definitely a great idea on Top. Z
https://youtu.be/urMO7Z5d02k
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The CAC is NOT an oil catch can that comes with a drain valve and would advise to Only Use a suction type compressor air gun on TOP to suck out any trapped oil inside the CAC as seen on my video and definitely a great idea on Top. Z [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urMO7Z5d02k#]! No longer available] (http://[/url)! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urMO7Z5d02k#)
Well obviously being a catch can is not it's purpose! lol. but what would be the harm in installing a drain valve in the bottom to easily remove oil buildup when needed?
There PROBABLY is no harm in installing a drain valve in theory (I think bottom driver side is the place you want to do that, but not sure). I definitely would NOT drill a hole and leave it open. Be sure to drill carefully and get all shavings out of there. If what you are drilling into is plastic, it could crack, so ...
There are some members that have had good results especially the F-150'S by doing this but unless your experiencing a shudder or similar issues personally would advise against any such modification to your intercooler and could also void your warranty and in theory can sometimes do more harm than good[if it ain't Broke Dont fix it]may apply here..... more info can be found here but as always play at your own risk. Z http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,6334.0.html (http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,6334.0.html)
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Bringing this thread back! Just checked mine and there's close to a 1/4" on the dipstick. More than i'd like to see for sure.
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Just checked mine (I'm at 70k) and there is a good amount in there, about as much is shown on my dip stick as the first post. I tried to such as much out as possible but I couldn't seem to get much more than maybe a teaspoon. If I stick my dipstick down there, it still shows more. I'll be taking the front bumper off soon to remove the grille, and when I do I'll take a look at maybe putting a valve in the bottom of the CAC to be able to drain it easier. I will also be looking into getting an oil separator, thinking about a JLT for now.
^ Wondering if anyone has done a drainplug/petcock in the CAC? How difficult do you guys think that would be? Obviously it would have to have a good seal but the idea of just opening a valve and sucking the fluid out the bottom every 10k or so is pretty appealing.
Also,don't see why a cheap tool like this wouldn't work to drain it from the top. Just drop the hose into the CAC opening and spray away
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-Siphon-Spray-Blow-Gun-9045734/203153526?cm_mmc=SEM%7cTHD%7cG%7c0%7cG-PLA-BT3-Husky-D25T-Tools%7c&gclid=Cj0KEQjw9b6-BRCq7YP34tvW_uUBEiQAkK3svUhx_wuJt0UbVJRj_ZDCuO0XU8ajK-iKEyCMnMzqRRAaAp-z8P8HAQ&gclsrc=aw.ds (http://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-Siphon-Spray-Blow-Gun-9045734/203153526?cm_mmc=SEM%7cTHD%7cG%7c0%7cG-PLA-BT3-Husky-D25T-Tools%7c&gclid=Cj0KEQjw9b6-BRCq7YP34tvW_uUBEiQAkK3svUhx_wuJt0UbVJRj_ZDCuO0XU8ajK-iKEyCMnMzqRRAaAp-z8P8HAQ&gclsrc=aw.ds)
That Husky siphon blow gun looks interesting. Sad that the only review said it didn't provide a siphon. I would like to find something like that before doing mine again. I cobbled together odd parts and made my own blow gun, but it was a fairly ridiculous rig job that I'd rather not repeat. LOL
Thanks for all the input guys, this is why i ask questions. I'll hopefully have time to suck the fluid out of my CAC today. If it's easy enough(as it looks to be) it may not necessitate a drain plug. Car still is under warranty so would like to avoid any red flags to the dealer.
Cheap and effective, (http://www.mityvac.com/hq_images/07240.jpg)
Did that work for you? I tried a couple of pumps that I have, but they didn't work. I needed constant suction.
I haven't used it yet on our CAC but have used it numerous times on my motorcycles from fuel to oil and as long as you have the energy, you can keep a constant flow rate.
Quote from: ShoBoat on June 03, 2014, 09:08:39 AM
Quote from: boostedflex on June 03, 2014, 08:22:29 AM
Hey ShoBoat, do you have a part number, etc, for that vacuum pump you used? Googling air powered vacuum pumps I did not find anything near that nice. Would love to try this myself, will at least give me some piece of mind until x-mas when I can get a catch can :)
This would do the job.
http://usatoolsinc.com/dualfunctionairpoweredvacuumcleanerkitsunsx1000.aspx
It's an air powered vacuum. The one I have I purchased used.
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I picked this up from Tyler tools for 42 shipped. I'll have in case my 16 shows signs of oil ::)
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Well, I used an alternate method to flush out the CAC on my XSport this past weekend. Finding this post after the fact cause me to have a mini panic attack, but my worries were unfounded. This past weekend I installed a RX Monster Catch Can and one of the recommendations was to drain the CAC. I actually back-flushed mine with it still installed in the vehicle, and this is how I did it (ATTEMPT AT YOUR OWN RISK):
1 ) Jack up (or drive up on a ramp) the passenger side of the vehicle. I didn't do this, but I will in the future. This will make the driver's side lower than the passenger side.
2 ) Remove upper connection from passenger side CAC outlet to throttle body - leave bottom clamp tightened
3 ) Disconnect charge pipes from driver side CAC inlet - remove charge pipe all the way down to the front side turbo so it doesnt fill with cleaner and/or water (don't ask me how I know. ;))
4 ) Pour Simple Green (full strength) down the CAC outlet pipe and let sit for 10 minutes.
5 ) Pour Simple Green dilution (1 part SG, 3 parts hot water) down the outlet pipe. I did this 3x with 1 gallon of mixture each time. I also blocked off the inlet side with my hand to allow the CAC to fill up with cleaner several times. A helper to pour in your cleaner is helpful.
6 ) Repeat step 5 with clean water (I used my garden hose) until water runs clear.
7 ) Dry out the CAC using a CLEAN air source (not a leaf blower). I have a Master Blaster that has two 4 HP motors, which blows filtered dry, warm air (much cooler than a hair dryer or heat gun). I wrapped a towel around the blower hose and put it in the outlet side of the CAC and let the blower run for 1.5 hours - about 1 hour longer after I stopped seeing evidence of moisture. I let the car sit overnight and put the blower on it again in the morning for 15 minutes to confirm no additional moisture was coming out.
8 ) Reinstall charge pipes and reconnect hose at throttle body.
After going through my process, I found this "how-to" and freaked out thinking maybe I left a gallon of water sitting down my CAC. I had Amazon overnight ship me an inspection camera, and to my relief, the CAC looked squeaky clean (and dry) except some minor oil staining in the aluminum passages. I attached a picture (post cleaning), but for some reason the resolution does not look nearly as good as it did on the screen and the time stamp did not apply at the same orientation as what I set the image to on the screen.
Damn, looks brand new inside.
Did you fill up the entire CAC before letting it drain or
just the bottom half?
Quote from: glock-coma on September 14, 2016, 10:53:21 PM
Damn, looks brand new inside.
Did you fill up the entire CAC before letting it drain or
just the bottom half?
I'm guessing it was close to full, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was an air gap towards the top. In addition to trying to block the driver's side inlet with my right hand, I was also trying to keep the outlet hose bent up and simultaneously hold a funnel with my left hand so my wife could pour in the SG dilution. I had a rag stuffed in the throttle body, but I kept saying "don't spill, don't spill". Haha. Frankly, I wasn't being super scientific about it. I was just attempting to flush out the bulk of any nastiness.
After seeing all the other pictures and videos I convinced myself that I must have missed a bunch of water in the bottom. Imagine my relieve this afternoon after I double checked. :)
I also removed the adhesive blocking plate from the front side of the CAC, so I want to keep an eye for any possible condensation buildup a couple times a year.
Quote from: slurppie on September 08, 2016, 12:54:26 PM
Cheap and effective, (http://www.mityvac.com/hq_images/07240.jpg)
I tried one of these and couldn't get anything, at all, out if it. Idk if I wasn't getting it far enough down the tube, there's not enough oil for it to pick up, or it just isn't strong enough?
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That level is with the driver side jacked up
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Quote from: Linemonkey on September 25, 2016, 03:17:11 PM
That level is with the driver side jacked up
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I had roughly that much with the car on ground level. Z :(
I could not get a suction pump like that to work either. Had to cobble together an air powered suction gun.
I just got notification (thx jman)
that my videos were not visible in the thread. Here's a YouTube link with the cac and intake valves videos.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOByog1s75LtkvY8_Uvks-w
Here's my very own Video from a few year's back! I had a compressor type suction gun suck out some oil from the CAC(intercooler).
I would advise to have this done on an annual basis IMO! Z
https://youtu.be/urMO7Z5d02k