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Title: Gearhead Turbos Received!
Post by: StealBlueSho on April 10, 2019, 06:32:34 PM
National Speed, Inc in Richmond, VA was kind enough to take some pictures of the Gearhead turbo's they received that will be installed on my car April 22nd. Shout out to Gearhead and Matt Robinson for awesome work.

Their shop foreman checked them out and said they are perfect. National Speed Inc, is going to warranty the turbos and labor too!

Title: Re: Gearhead Turbos Received!
Post by: shoNoff on April 10, 2019, 06:42:59 PM
I'd say mediocre at best  ;)


I'm just playing man can't wait to see how they perform for you.
Title: Re: Gearhead Turbos Received!
Post by: 802SHO on April 10, 2019, 06:45:12 PM
I'm stoked for you!  Can't wait
Title: Re: Gearhead Turbos Received!
Post by: bpd1151 on April 10, 2019, 06:56:30 PM
Outstanding deal! Can't get much better than that / this.

Gratz brutha.

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Title: Re: Gearhead Turbos Received!
Post by: StealBlueSho on April 10, 2019, 06:59:31 PM
This is what Matt Robinson has been able to get with these on the exact same setup as my car. He still has a bit of tweaking left, but the power is there.
Title: Re: Gearhead Turbos Received!
Post by: shoNoff on April 10, 2019, 07:54:53 PM
Wow I'd say so. God I'm jealous. No doubt if these where out 7 months ago they would have gone in my car. I can't wait to see your car done. It's going to be an absolute beast!
Title: Re: Gearhead Turbos Received!
Post by: ZSHO on April 11, 2019, 06:41:54 AM
I'm a tad bit jelly there SBS! Nice upgrades indeed and looks like an optimistic year for you and many fellow ecoboosters,especially with all these new Upgrades . Z  :)
Title: Re: Gearhead Turbos Received!
Post by: SM105K on April 11, 2019, 08:18:42 AM
A pair of those will be strapped to my car in the future.  Take it to the bank. 500 awhp here we come!
Title: Re: Gearhead Turbos Received!
Post by: 18SHO on April 11, 2019, 08:22:03 AM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on April 10, 2019, 06:59:31 PM
This is what Matt Robinson has been able to get with these on the exact same setup as my car. He still has a bit of tweaking left, but the power is there.

The horsepower is phanominal but that torque sweet Jesus that thing will pull like a son of a b ! How much did this turbo kit run you if you don't mind me asking !?
Title: Re: Gearhead Turbos Received!
Post by: StealBlueSho on April 11, 2019, 08:26:09 AM
Quote from: 18SHO on April 11, 2019, 08:22:03 AM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on April 10, 2019, 06:59:31 PM
This is what Matt Robinson has been able to get with these on the exact same setup as my car. He still has a bit of tweaking left, but the power is there.

The horsepower is phanominal but that torque sweet Jesus that thing will pull like a son of a b ! How much did this turbo kit run you if you don't mind me asking !?

Ping Matt Robinson on the turbo costs, I am not sure what the finalized price is. I can tell you the install is $900 plus I am having them do some additional work such as drain/fill the PTU, install the EPP Catted DPs, and there are gaskets/orings/bolts etc that need to be added to the cost which is around $200 in total.  The out the door price is $3200 for everything listed here including the turbos.
Title: Re: Gearhead Turbos Received!
Post by: shoNoff on April 11, 2019, 11:23:40 AM
That's a pretty fair price to be honest. I got some insane quotes when I called around for mine. I'm talking upwards of $4500 for labor at some shops. My buddy who I did them with at his shop said easily $700-1000 for a customer car.
Title: Re: Gearhead Turbos Received!
Post by: shaundizzle15 on April 11, 2019, 02:12:21 PM
SBS what all is different with these turbos? Noticed the Ford stamping on them, are they OEM with different internals? Thanks and keep ripping!
Title: Re: Gearhead Turbos Received!
Post by: mattr66 on April 11, 2019, 04:31:41 PM
Quote from: shaundizzle15 on April 11, 2019, 02:12:21 PM
SBS what all is different with these turbos? Noticed the Ford stamping on them, are they OEM with different internals? Thanks and keep ripping!
Stock cores but 30% more flow on both sides of charger... Virtually no loss of response.

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Title: Re: Gearhead Turbos Received!
Post by: Jordan on April 11, 2019, 06:18:42 PM
Man, if i had the funds! They look great. Gearhead always putting out awesome products
Title: Re: Gearhead Turbos Received!
Post by: StealBlueSho on April 11, 2019, 07:10:39 PM
Here is the recommended replacement hardware parts list for the Gearhead turbos. You don't HAVE to replace these... but highly recommended!! This was ordered through Tasca.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190411/2fc1486827f3b623862d050449b3c838.jpg)


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Title: Re: Gearhead Turbos Received!
Post by: mrhighcaliber on April 12, 2019, 06:55:44 AM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on April 11, 2019, 07:10:39 PM
Here is the recommended replacement hardware parts list for the Gearhead turbos. You don't HAVE to replace these... but highly recommended!! This was ordered through Tasca.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190411/2fc1486827f3b623862d050449b3c838.jpg)


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Just a note to anyone whom is doing future turbo r&r should get the MAHLE gasket kits.
P/N# GS33743 and GS33744.
left and right.

Comes with:

1x Turbo to manifold Gasket
1x Turbo to Down pipe Gasket
2x Aluminum Coolant line gaskets
1x Copper oil line inlet gasket
2x Rubber oil drain tube to block O-rings
1x Turbo to oil drain tube gasket
     -Per Kit
Price range Rock Auto to eBay is 27.99 to 32.99 per kit.

This is my second time using these kits. Oh and SBS, you require 2 turbo pipe O-rings per side. 4 total. Each drain tube has 2 where is slides into the block. Unless those are packs of 2 on your list. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190412/7abe1b6492fbd41dd88b2111b86a0ba3.jpg)

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(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190412/9678444150ee1312e3bc9893684af464.jpg)
Title: Re: Gearhead Turbos Received!
Post by: StealBlueSho on April 12, 2019, 07:27:47 AM
Quote from: mrhighcaliber on April 12, 2019, 06:55:44 AM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on April 11, 2019, 07:10:39 PM
Here is the recommended replacement hardware parts list for the Gearhead turbos. You don't HAVE to replace these... but highly recommended!! This was ordered through Tasca.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190411/2fc1486827f3b623862d050449b3c838.jpg)


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Just a note to anyone whom is doing future turbo r&r should get the MAHLE gasket kits.
P/N# GS33733 and GS33734.
left and right.

Comes with:

1x Turbo to manifold Gasket
1x Turbo to Down pipe Gasket
2x Aluminum Coolant line gaskets
1x Copper oil line inlet gasket
2x Rubber oil drain tube to block O-rings
1x Turbo to oil drain tube gasket
     -Per Kit
Price range Rock Auto to eBay is 27.99 to 32.99 per kit.

This is my second time using these kits. Oh and SBS, you require 2 turbo pipe O-rings per side. 4 total. Each drain tube has 2 where is slides into the block. Unless those are packs of 2 on your list. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190412/7abe1b6492fbd41dd88b2111b86a0ba3.jpg)

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I'm basing this off what Gearhead sent me.

If there is other stuff I need to order let me know....

I didn't order any copper stuff since it wasn't on the list.

-Mike


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Title: Re: Gearhead Turbos Received!
Post by: 802SHO on April 12, 2019, 07:45:03 AM
Great info!  Also curious if the dyno info from Matt's SHO was with upgraded hot pipes or if he is still using the stock plastic piping?
Title: Re: Gearhead Turbos Received!
Post by: mattr66 on April 12, 2019, 07:47:57 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on April 12, 2019, 07:45:03 AM
Great info!  Also curious if the dyno info from Matt's SHO was with upgraded hot pipes or if he is still using the stock plastic piping?
Yep all stock.... For now

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Title: Re: Gearhead Turbos Received!
Post by: 802SHO on April 12, 2019, 07:57:55 AM
How much PSI are you tuned for?
Title: Re: Gearhead Turbos Received!
Post by: mattr66 on April 12, 2019, 08:07:59 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on April 12, 2019, 07:57:55 AM
How much PSI are you tuned for?
67inhg max..

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Title: Re: Gearhead Turbos Received!
Post by: mattr66 on April 12, 2019, 08:09:51 AM
Quote from: mattr66 on April 12, 2019, 08:07:59 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on April 12, 2019, 07:57:55 AM
How much PSI are you tuned for?
67inhg max..

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So 18.2 psi of booat at sea level.  Boost isn't everything.  These turbos flow.

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Title: Re: Gearhead Turbos Received!
Post by: StealBlueSho on April 12, 2019, 08:10:02 AM
so about 18.2psi if you are monitoring..
Title: Re: Gearhead Turbos Received!
Post by: 802SHO on April 12, 2019, 08:18:31 AM
I agree that boost is not everything.  18.2 boost at that power level?  That's very impressive to me as that is lower than I would have guessed.  Well within efficiency level?
Title: Re: Gearhead Turbos Received!
Post by: mattr66 on April 12, 2019, 08:19:39 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on April 12, 2019, 08:18:31 AM
I agree that boost is not everything.  18.2 boost at that power level?  That's very impressive to me.  Well within efficiency level?
Yep mire left in it but want to to keep stock rods in the block.

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Title: Re: Gearhead Turbos Received!
Post by: 802SHO on April 12, 2019, 08:22:19 AM
Quote from: mattr66 on April 12, 2019, 08:19:39 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on April 12, 2019, 08:18:31 AM
I agree that boost is not everything.  18.2 boost at that power level?  That's very impressive to me.  Well within efficiency level?
Yep mire left in it but want to to keep stock rods in the block.

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You have mentioned before I believe that your upgraded turbos are perfect for our engines without doing a built motor.  Based on what you have just explained I would be inclined to believe your turbos can also support a built motor? 
Title: Re: Gearhead Turbos Received!
Post by: mattr66 on April 12, 2019, 08:27:09 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on April 12, 2019, 08:22:19 AM
Quote from: mattr66 on April 12, 2019, 08:19:39 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on April 12, 2019, 08:18:31 AM
I agree that boost is not everything.  18.2 boost at that power level?  That's very impressive to me.  Well within efficiency level?
Yep mire left in it but want to to keep stock rods in the block.

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You have mentioned before I believe that your upgraded turbos are perfect for our engines without doing a built motor.  Based on what you have just explained I would be inclined to believe your turbos can also support a built motor?
Yes I am trying to stay around 500 torque to the tires.  I could easily generate enough power to kink them.... LOL

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Title: Re: Gearhead Turbos Received!
Post by: 802SHO on April 12, 2019, 08:32:36 AM
Quote from: mattr66 on April 12, 2019, 08:27:09 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on April 12, 2019, 08:22:19 AM
Quote from: mattr66 on April 12, 2019, 08:19:39 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on April 12, 2019, 08:18:31 AM
I agree that boost is not everything.  18.2 boost at that power level?  That's very impressive to me.  Well within efficiency level?
Yep mire left in it but want to to keep stock rods in the block.

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You have mentioned before I believe that your upgraded turbos are perfect for our engines without doing a built motor.  Based on what you have just explained I would be inclined to believe your turbos can also support a built motor?
Yes I am trying to stay around 500 torque to the tires.  I could easily generate enough power to kink them.... LOL

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Outstanding!  Bravo and thank you for putting the time and money into the development of this forgotten platform!  Much much appreciated! 

I think for many of us its not a matter of if we buy these, its only a matter of when. 
Title: Re: Gearhead Turbos Received!
Post by: 18SHO on April 12, 2019, 08:36:11 AM
Quote from: mattr66 on April 12, 2019, 08:27:09 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on April 12, 2019, 08:22:19 AM
Quote from: mattr66 on April 12, 2019, 08:19:39 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on April 12, 2019, 08:18:31 AM
I agree that boost is not everything.  18.2 boost at that power level?  That's very impressive to me.  Well within efficiency level?
Yep mire left in it but want to to keep stock rods in the block.

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You have mentioned before I believe that your upgraded turbos are perfect for our engines without doing a built motor.  Based on what you have just explained I would be inclined to believe your turbos can also support a built motor?
Yes I am trying to stay around 500 torque to the tires.  I could easily generate enough power to kink them.... LOL

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How much are we looking at for this kit Matt?
Title: Re: Gearhead Turbos Received!
Post by: mrhighcaliber on April 12, 2019, 08:42:08 AM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on April 12, 2019, 07:27:47 AM
Quote from: mrhighcaliber on April 12, 2019, 06:55:44 AM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on April 11, 2019, 07:10:39 PM
Here is the recommended replacement hardware parts list for the Gearhead turbos. You don't HAVE to replace these... but highly recommended!! This was ordered through Tasca.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190411/2fc1486827f3b623862d050449b3c838.jpg)


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Just a note to anyone whom is doing future turbo r&r should get the MAHLE gasket kits.
P/N# GS33733 and GS33734.
left and right.

Comes with:

1x Turbo to manifold Gasket
1x Turbo to Down pipe Gasket
2x Aluminum Coolant line gaskets
1x Copper oil line inlet gasket
2x Rubber oil drain tube to block O-rings
1x Turbo to oil drain tube gasket
     -Per Kit
Price range Rock Auto to eBay is 27.99 to 32.99 per kit.

This is my second time using these kits. Oh and SBS, you require 2 turbo pipe O-rings per side. 4 total. Each drain tube has 2 where is slides into the block. Unless those are packs of 2 on your list. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190412/7abe1b6492fbd41dd88b2111b86a0ba3.jpg)

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I'm basing this off what Gearhead sent me.

If there is other stuff I need to order let me know....

I didn't order any copper stuff since it wasn't on the list.

-Mike


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I edited the part numbers and added the Rock Auto screenshot. The copper washers are for the oil line going into the top of the turbo. The 2 aluminum washers are for the coolant in and outlet lines. Seems like they would have you replace everything unless the oil inlet line is already attached.

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Title: Re: Gearhead Turbos Received!
Post by: SHOdded on April 12, 2019, 08:45:50 AM
Awesome info, guys, as always :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: Gearhead Turbos Received!
Post by: mattr66 on April 12, 2019, 09:04:23 AM
Quote from: 18SHO on April 12, 2019, 08:36:11 AM
Quote from: mattr66 on April 12, 2019, 08:27:09 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on April 12, 2019, 08:22:19 AM
Quote from: mattr66 on April 12, 2019, 08:19:39 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on April 12, 2019, 08:18:31 AM
I agree that boost is not everything.  18.2 boost at that power level?  That's very impressive to me.  Well within efficiency level?
Yep mire left in it but want to to keep stock rods in the block.

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You have mentioned before I believe that your upgraded turbos are perfect for our engines without doing a built motor.  Based on what you have just explained I would be inclined to believe your turbos can also support a built motor?
Yes I am trying to stay around 500 torque to the tires.  I could easily generate enough power to kink them.... LOL

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How much are we looking at for this kit Matt?
2k plus core

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Title: Re: Gearhead Turbos Received!
Post by: StealBlueSho on April 12, 2019, 09:28:31 AM
Big shout out to MrHighCaliber for the quick responses...

Here is the finalized order from Tasca for the required washers/gaskets/bolts/nuts for a turbo replacement. If this is for a failed turbo/engine you will also need to replace quite a few more parts. This is for a rip and replace for turbo upgrades.

MrHighCaliber said that MAHLE is also an OEM supplier so the Ford Parts could be MAHLE but otherwise they are listed at OEE.

The only difference in parts between the MAHLE kit and the parts order I placed is that I am also ordering new nuts/bolts in the even there is an issue. This is from TASCA so the parts are OEM.
Title: Re: Gearhead Turbos Received!
Post by: SHOdded on April 12, 2019, 09:34:40 AM
Hard to go wrong with Mahle, Clevite, and Victor Reinz.
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