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Title: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on June 26, 2019, 03:42:41 PM
I have a 14 page thread about everything that I have done to my car, and some technical info in the first couple of posts about buying a SHO used on shoforum. I think it would be smart to start my own thread about my build here. 

https://shoforum.com/index.php?threads/sm105ks-ownership-performance-maintenance-thread.138235/

The thread above literally has everything I have done with the car and some stuff about me as well.

As the car sits as of 6/26:

2013 PP SHO with 71,5xx miles on her. New Trans at 69K miles.  Three year warranty from Jan 2019.

Exterior: Tint Limo with a Windshield banner, H&R Springs, Full Paint Correction, The Last Coat Paint Protection, Trunk De-Badged, Devires "Turbo Bull" Stickers Over Ford Emblems. All Chrome Trim is Paint Matched,  Curva Concepts C7's Gloss Black, Copper Metallic Devires "Turbo Bull" overlays, Black Quad Exhaust Tips.

Misc Mods: Forscan hacked the Navigation System (turned it on), Added the Intelligent AWD Gauge.

Performance: AJPTurbo E30 Tune on a LiveWire TS (391 Hp and 470 TQ), Gearhead Upgraded Intercooler, 542 Plugs, K&N Drop In (stock air box), UPR Catch Can, VTA BOV's, Powerstop Rotors and Pads, Continental DWS06 Extreme Contact Tires, Dicunzolo Gen 2 Upgraded Trans Mounts,  On order: PPE Down Pipes.

Future Mods: GH Upgraded Turbos, Upgraded HPFP, along with Meth. 

Best Track Outing: Track was good, 58 degrees, 1200 D.A, Ended up running a 12.56 @108.98 with a sixty foot of 1.777! I did have an issue with a boost reference hose that was creating a boost leak. Decent run either way.   

My Extreme Duty Maintenance Schedule:

Oil: every 3k miles (Castrol Edge with either a Motorcraft or Mobil 1 filter)
Trans Fluid: every 3k miles 5 quarts out, 5 new quarts in. (Mercon LV)
Brake Fluid: every 10K miles. Changed at 69K
PTU Fluid: every 15k miles (Redline Lightweight Shockproof Fluid) Changed at 69K.
RDU Fluid: every 15k miles (Redline Lightweight Shockproof Fluid) Changed at 69K
Coolant: Every Summer 40/60 blend and Winter 60/40 blend. T-Stat: Yearly. Changed at 69.5K

So yeah...here we go.

Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on June 27, 2019, 01:05:45 PM
Last day on Flower's? C7's should be here today. I will inspect them, check fitment, clean them, and then throw two coats of "The Last Coat" and then take them to get the tires mounted.

Trim is being dropped off today for paint.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on June 27, 2019, 11:55:57 PM
Can't wait to see it done!  I read some of your SHOForum posts.  Well written to include how to change the fuids.  I don't know there was such thing as an AWD gauge. 
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on June 28, 2019, 09:13:33 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 27, 2019, 11:55:57 PM
Can't wait to see it done!  I read some of your SHOForum posts.  Well written to include how to change the fuids.  I don't know there was such thing as an AWD gauge.

Yeah it should look good.  Yeah, SHOForum gets more hits and more thread action.  A lot of new SHO owners over there, so I put that whole welcome and what to look for with your new ride ect. 

Tips came in yesterday.  Rims where supposed to be dropped yesterday but needed a signature, and I missed the delivery by 20 mins.  I was really annoyed, but whatever.  Have to leave work early to get them today. 

Trim was dropped off at the painter, so yeah...  Things are moving along.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on June 28, 2019, 09:29:56 AM
Moving along nicely!  I too also hate signature deliveries.  Not sure what type neighborhood you live but not too worried about mine.  The IC and Turbos left on my door step no signature...but my Billet Badge I needed to sign for.  Lol oh well!
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on June 28, 2019, 10:36:18 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 28, 2019, 09:29:56 AM
Moving along nicely!  I too also hate signature deliveries.  Not sure what type neighborhood you live but not too worried about mine.  The IC and Turbos left on my door step no signature...but my Billet Badge I needed to sign for.  Lol oh well!

I live in a good neighborhood, but it requires a signature.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: shoNoff on June 28, 2019, 10:50:18 AM
Quote from: SM105K on June 28, 2019, 10:36:18 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 28, 2019, 09:29:56 AM
Moving along nicely!  I too also hate signature deliveries.  Not sure what type neighborhood you live but not too worried about mine.  The IC and Turbos left on my door step no signature...but my Billet Badge I needed to sign for.  Lol oh well!

I live in a good neighborhood, but it requires a signature.

That's the biggest pain in the ass. You can signup online for ups to sign ahead. I forget how to do it. So this post is virtually useless. So I'll end it with a hey buddy how you been?
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on June 28, 2019, 11:31:10 AM
Quote from: shoNoff on June 28, 2019, 10:50:18 AM
Quote from: SM105K on June 28, 2019, 10:36:18 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 28, 2019, 09:29:56 AM
Moving along nicely!  I too also hate signature deliveries.  Not sure what type neighborhood you live but not too worried about mine.  The IC and Turbos left on my door step no signature...but my Billet Badge I needed to sign for.  Lol oh well!

I live in a good neighborhood, but it requires a signature.

That's the biggest pain in the ass. You can signup online for ups to sign ahead. I forget how to do it. So this post is virtually useless. So I'll end it with a hey buddy how you been?

They shipped it through GSO/GLS so.  I mean it took two days to get to my house yesterday so I am not even mad.  The past couple of days have been stupid busy with work, training, and trashing the SHO to get it ready for all the exterior mods.  I need to check the rims and protect them, then get the tires mounted ect....kinda thinking about doing the paint correction while it is still on the flowers...so yeah.  It needs a lot of work before I unveil her new gloriness.  Lol. 
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on June 28, 2019, 12:32:21 PM
Quote from: SM105K on June 28, 2019, 11:31:10 AM
Quote from: shoNoff on June 28, 2019, 10:50:18 AM
Quote from: SM105K on June 28, 2019, 10:36:18 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 28, 2019, 09:29:56 AM
Moving along nicely!  I too also hate signature deliveries.  Not sure what type neighborhood you live but not too worried about mine.  The IC and Turbos left on my door step no signature...but my Billet Badge I needed to sign for.  Lol oh well!

I live in a good neighborhood, but it requires a signature.

That's the biggest pain in the ass. You can signup online for ups to sign ahead. I forget how to do it. So this post is virtually useless. So I'll end it with a hey buddy how you been?

They shipped it through GSO/GLS so.  I mean it took two days to get to my house yesterday so I am not even mad.  The past couple of days have been stupid busy with work, training, and trashing the SHO to get it ready for all the exterior mods.  I need to check the rims and protect them, then get the tires mounted ect....kinda thinking about doing the paint correction while it is still on the flowers...so yeah.  It needs a lot of work before I unveil her new gloriness.  Lol.


I hope you are able to getr done faster than my pace!  My car is near complete then minus a solid paint correction but Jesus I'm glad I've had plenty of work to afford my new parts but at the same time it sucks bc I have no time to do much else!  Dreaming of a normal 8 hour work day. 

I try to stay calm if I miss a package for a signature but for crying out loud usually when I get around to ordering something I've been wanting it or looking at it for weeks, months maybe years... so when the day comes for a delivery...even if its not getting installed...I just want to open the package, see what I've wanted for so long in person...toucing it holding it caressing it even...all spoiled over a signature?  😵😖😡😠😠😠  😂🤣🤦
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on June 28, 2019, 01:11:46 PM
Paint correct will go this weekend.  I have everything that needs to be done, and it won't be a big correction.  I will prep it and wash it today because I am leaving work early. I will take out the brake lights out, and remove the spoiler as well.  I want it done correctly, because if I get all of the problem areas now, they wont be a problem going forward, and she is a garage queen now. 

Since the front clip/bumper is sagging, the headlights won't have to come out.  This will give me a really good time to completely clean the transmission cooler as well. This time, I am going to zip tie the top corners of the clip when I reinstall it, because those push clips are terrible.  I only have a couple of panels that are bothering me, so I will work on those, and get them perfect.  Then I will apply two coats of "The Last Coat" to the car and she will be ready for when then trim is done.  After that, I will be a bit more happy with the exterior.       
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on June 28, 2019, 04:40:34 PM
Definitely doing it right with the trim, lights and spoiler out of the way you'll gain access to those hard to each areas.  I've never heard of The Last Coat so I just checked it out.  Looks great!
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on June 29, 2019, 07:48:52 PM
I am having trouble uploading pics here so here is a link to the other forum with what I have done the past couple of days to the SHO.
https://shoforum.com/index.php?threads/sm105ks-ownership-performance-maintenance-thread.138235/page-15#post-1513018 (https://shoforum.com/index.php?threads/sm105ks-ownership-performance-maintenance-thread.138235/page-15#post-1513018)



(http://i67.tinypic.com/9vcgmq.jpg)

Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on June 30, 2019, 02:01:22 PM
Having problems adding pics from my phone on here. So here is another link. 

https://shoforum.com/index.php?threads/sm105ks-ownership-performance-maintenance-thread.138235/page-15

Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on June 30, 2019, 03:30:30 PM
You do excellent work buddy it looks stunning and the wheels are sweet
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on June 30, 2019, 04:38:02 PM
Thanks dude. I just want a clean slate to restart with. I just got a point with the chrome that I hated looking at the car...
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: ZSHO on June 30, 2019, 09:24:44 PM
Looking Good there SM105K! 👍
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on June 30, 2019, 09:30:14 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on June 30, 2019, 09:24:44 PM
Looking Good there SM105K! 👍

Thank you Z.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on July 01, 2019, 11:36:43 AM
Also for some technical data.

Stock Rims and Tires: 60 lbs
Curva's with Tires: 54 lbs

I went with Curva Concepts C7's in 20 inch, 8.5 inch wide with a 38 mm offset. They sit pretty damn flush and I like them.

My tires are pretty much new Conti's 245's. The car cut a 1.77 on them at the track.

I don't drive the car much so, I just couldn't justify spending another $1200 for a new pair of 275's and the wider rim set up. The good thing is, I can fit a 255 on these rims easy, possibly even a 265. So either way I win.

I am going to install the upgraded trans mounts, DP's, and tips and head back to the dyno.

Hopefully she cracks 400 awhp. If she doesn't, I will give up on that endeavor until the upgraded HPFP and GH turbos go on.

I will then head to the track, and see whats happens. I have had some spin and shudder/wheel hop in the past. I will see that the new rims and mounts do.

If it still spins, I might just throw a pair of drag radials on a set of flowers for the fronts and see what happens. If works it better, I will buy another pair of Curva's and mount the drag radials on them. The car will pretty much live on drag radials for the street for the future. Then when I go on a road trip, just take the drag radials off and throw back on the Conti's
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on July 01, 2019, 12:46:54 PM
6 lbs lighter each corner and with the 20x8.5 instead of the 20x8 you should get better traction so it will be nice to see how much improvement can come from lighter, wider wheels/tires and downpipes.  The Quad Tips will certainly enhance your tone as well as appearance.  Also interesting will be your 60ft time with the above improvements coupled with the upgraded torque mounts. 
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on July 01, 2019, 01:06:55 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on July 01, 2019, 12:46:54 PM
6 lbs lighter each corner and with the 20x8.5 instead of the 20x8 you should get better traction so it will be nice to see how much improvement can come from lighter, wider wheels/tires and downpipes.  The Quad Tips will certainly enhance your tone as well as appearance.  Also interesting will be your 60ft time with the above improvements coupled with the upgraded torque mounts.

I agree, it certainly will be interesting.  I know what the car cuts 0 to 60 on my Livewire on street tires.  4.43 with a little spin, on 40 psi on the street.  When I get the trim back on, I will take her out as she sits and do another 0 to 60 with the new wheels and tires at 40 psi.  Then I will go directly home, and the next day air the fronts down to 26 psi, and do the same 0 to 60.  I am not worried about the rear spinning at all.  We can see what just air pressure does.  I won't drive it around because I will want to keep the fuel level as close as possible.   

Then when all the go faster parts come in, I will install them, have Brad update the tune and repeat the process above.  0 to 60 at 40 psi, next day 0 to 60 at 26 psi at the same fuel level as the first trials.

I will also conduct these all the Phoenix Summer heat so the tests will be as close to possible with tire pressures, temps, and fuel level.     
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on July 02, 2019, 07:14:48 AM
Solid plan and having such will give you very precise findings for comparison.  Sometimes I think many of us tend to do comparisons that aren't as detail oriented and so what is the quality of our results to compare?  I think your plan is well thought out. 
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on July 02, 2019, 09:48:34 AM
Maybe I overthink things?  Nah...information is king.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: shoNoff on July 02, 2019, 09:58:07 AM
I can tell you this I dropped close to 17lbs per corner off my set up. I also installed mounts. My 0-60 times on 93 datalogging on the street are almost the exact same as my race gas tune at the track. I get zero wheel hop and almost no spin now. I also went from having a 265 tire down to a 245.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on July 02, 2019, 10:15:31 AM
Quote from: shoNoff on July 02, 2019, 09:58:07 AM
I can tell you this I dropped close to 17lbs per corner off my set up. I also installed mounts. My 0-60 times on 93 datalogging on the street are almost the exact same as my race gas tune at the track. I get zero wheel hop and almost no spin now. I also went from having a 265 tire down to a 245.

That is very promising.  Those mounts are coming into today.  I need to do some testing before I throw them in. 

New Rims as it sits::

0 to 60 at 40 psi in the all tires. Record findings.

Then drop the fronts to 26 and redo the 0 to 60 pull. Record findings.

Add the mounts:

Repeat both tests.

Add DP's and New Tune:

Repeat both tests..

Add should give me some damn good data.

 
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on July 02, 2019, 10:22:55 AM
Throw those bad 🐔 on there!  Lol
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on July 02, 2019, 10:31:50 AM
Trim is ready for pick up, looks like I will put her fully back together tonight if everything goes well.  I might even have time to get all of those tests in, since the mounts have been said to be easy to get in. 

Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on July 02, 2019, 10:42:54 AM
Looking good buddy!  That simppe visual mod is going to drastically change the appearance!  And the mounts are easy but the rear one almost seemed not doable...until I had to think more...then it was ok. 
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: shoNoff on July 02, 2019, 12:51:02 PM
Mounts legit took me 15 mins with a ratcheting 15mm wrench. But I don't have stock downpipes either. I hear they can be a b*tch with those in still. Wait until you launch the car. My god the 1/2 shift under acceleration is 100 times better. I used to think my dashboard was going to fall out on a 1/2 shift at the track. Now it feels like a 3/4 shift.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on July 02, 2019, 12:58:33 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on July 02, 2019, 12:51:02 PM
Mounts legit took me 15 mins with a ratcheting 15mm wrench. But I don't have stock downpipes either. I hear they can be a b*tch with those in still. Wait until you launch the car. My god the 1/2 shift under acceleration is 100 times better. I used to think my dashboard was going to fall out on a 1/2 shift at the track. Now it feels like a 3/4 shift.

Yeah I am really excited about the mounts.  Everyone that has them, loves them so yeah.   I am going to try and knock all off this out tonight.  I will have some work on the spoiler, stiil have too fully paint correct that as well.  It shouldnt take me too long though. 
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on July 02, 2019, 01:07:27 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on July 02, 2019, 12:51:02 PM
Mounts legit took me 15 mins with a ratcheting 15mm wrench. But I don't have stock downpipes either. I hear they can be a b*tch with those in still. Wait until you launch the car. My god the 1/2 shift under acceleration is 100 times better. I used to think my dashboard was going to fall out on a 1/2 shift at the track. Now it feels like a 3/4 shift.

It took me 15 min to resign myself to going little by little with just a regular 🔧.....not everyone has fancy tools Tim...wait..a ratcheting wrench is pretty standard...guess my tool chest sucks
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on July 02, 2019, 01:27:18 PM
I have racheting wrenches boys.  Like I said, I am going to try and get everything done tonight.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on July 03, 2019, 09:22:33 AM
Trim prep and paint prep took most of my time. Plus after the gym and the heat...I didn't finish lol.

I have the trunk and lights put back together. The whole front is also together. Working on the sides today.

Teaser...
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on July 03, 2019, 11:04:44 AM
Looking really nice Easton!  IMHO the car should have been like that from the factory. 
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on July 03, 2019, 11:20:42 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on July 03, 2019, 11:04:44 AM
Looking really nice Easton!  IMHO the car should have been like that from the factory.

Thanks Andrew.  I will at least get the trim done today.  My cafe closes early, but the heat is really zapping me.  I am in alot of recovery debt right, with such a caloric deficit lol.

I agree, the chrome on these are terrible.  Once all the trim is back on, I will hit it and the all of the skirting with The Last Coat and the car should really pop.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on July 04, 2019, 09:54:41 PM
I have trouble posting numerous pics at once...so here.

https://shoforum.com/index.php?threads/sm105ks-ownership-performance-maintenance-thread.138235/page-15#post-1513214

Here are a couple of pics it will let me post.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on July 05, 2019, 05:15:33 AM
Congratulations that is IMO a perfect cosmetic upgrade along with the wheels that drastically changed the entire look of your SHO.  It's very clean and very well done.  You didn't skimp either, you pulled all the trim, fender name plates, grille and had them professionally painted to color match.  Not many can say they have done that.  I also like the look of all the trim blacked out but I did vinyl before...having them painted is a step above.  The car looks like something that would show up if I didn't pay a loan shark back on time....Id imagine something like that stalking me.  Mafia type $hit haha!  Looks like no play all business! 
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on July 05, 2019, 07:40:11 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on July 05, 2019, 05:15:33 AM
Congratulations that is IMO a perfect cosmetic upgrade along with the wheels that drastically changed the entire look of your SHO.  It's very clean and very well done.  You didn't skimp either, you pulled all the trim, fender name plates, grille and had them professionally painted to color match.  Not many can say they have done that.  I also like the look of all the trim blacked out but I did vinyl before...having them painted is a step above.  The car looks like something that would show up if I didn't pay a loan shark back on time....Id imagine something like that stalking me.  Mafia type $hit haha!  Looks like no play all business!

Hahaha Mafia SHO.  Yeah I have over 12 hours just on the trim. Removal, prep, getting them painted, and then re-installation. They cut my hands up, frustrated me, and made but at the end, it came out just as good as I hoped. I love the rims. They really go hand in hand with the trim.

The upgraded trans mounts are amaxing.  The shifts are amazing esp the second to third shift.  The feel and sound from them is amazing. Yes the sound. I found myself, just driving without the radio on yesterday.

The car really makes me happy now, and in the limited time I driven it, people really stare now.  If I didn't have limo tinted windows I would be uncomfortable.

I do want the billet grill set ups too, so maybe down the road.  However I am really happy.

Only thing truly majorly left is turbos and fuel pump...
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: shoNoff on July 05, 2019, 10:15:01 AM
Car looks awesome buddy. Love what you did with the trim and wheels. All the hard work was totally worth it.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on July 05, 2019, 10:34:27 AM
Quote from: shoNoff on July 05, 2019, 10:15:01 AM
Car looks awesome buddy. Love what you did with the trim and wheels. All the hard work was totally worth it.

Thank you sir! On to the next mod. Lol. The poor Focus gets some love today.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on July 05, 2019, 08:24:29 PM
Yeah I love window tint just for that.  It nice to be noticed but its not nice to feel like your being studied and analyzed as well...unless
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on July 05, 2019, 08:46:37 PM
The Focus got washed and vacuumed today. Along with a fresh oil swap and and new trans mission fluid. That dual clutch fluid BS was $31.50  per quart. I only need two, but come on. On a side note the trans shifts a lot smoother now.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on July 08, 2019, 10:14:01 AM
So the SHO has a crack in the garbage windshield that Safelite put in the car.  I am going to request that they replace the windshield with OEM Carlite Soundscreen this time.  This also means that I have to get the damn banner re-done.  Not a big deal, just a time waster.  However, rather annoying.

The car is getting copper metallic overlays for the ford ovals when they arrive I will install them. 

I am also going to pull the front clip off the car this weekend.  My trans temps (even with the PP cooler) are warmer than I want.  Cruising at 80-85 mph here in the heat of Phoenix I am seeing 207 degrees.  Ford says 100 degrees over ambient is acceptable...but not for me.  I am going install a larger cooler, and make it fit in the stock location.  Cooler is below.  My local speed shop has the same one for 5 bucks less. So why not?

https://www.jegs.com/i/RPC/707/R5054X/10002/-1 (https://www.jegs.com/i/RPC/707/R5054X/10002/-1)
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on July 08, 2019, 11:09:57 AM
Update on the Upgraded mounts. They are DAMN good. If you have stock DP's, it literally took me 20 mins from start to finish to install these. Yes the car vibrates more (it has gotten better with the mileage) but the 1-2, and particularly the 2 - 3 shift is amazing. If you don't mind the mild vibration, and want the performance, these are probably the 2nd best mod besides a tune IMHO.

Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on July 08, 2019, 11:27:15 PM
Got the custom overlays in. Installed them, and they are perfect. Just the burn copper color I wanted.

Now I have to snag some black lug nuts, and when my new license plate frame comes in hopes that it somewhat matches the overlays.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on July 09, 2019, 05:50:05 AM
The SHO is looking top notch my friend!  The overlays look better than I imagined for a copper badge!  Etsy Designs does great work!

That cooler should improve your trans temps for sure.  Looking forward to your results.  You're hoping for about 20-25 degree cooler temps?  I think that's a reasonable expectation. 
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on July 09, 2019, 09:14:57 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on July 09, 2019, 05:50:05 AM
The SHO is looking top notch my friend!  The overlays look better than I imagined for a copper badge!  Etsy Designs does great work!

That cooler should improve your trans temps for sure.  Looking forward to your results.  You're hoping for about 20-25 degree cooler temps?  I think that's a reasonable expectation.

Thanks dude. I dont know what to expect with the trans cooler honestly.  If I can cruise at 85 in 105 -110 heat with trans temps in the 190's I would say I am winning.  Only time and money will tell.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on July 09, 2019, 08:18:33 PM
Quote from: SM105K on July 09, 2019, 09:14:57 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on July 09, 2019, 05:50:05 AM
The SHO is looking top notch my friend!  The overlays look better than I imagined for a copper badge!  Etsy Designs does great work!

That cooler should improve your trans temps for sure.  Looking forward to your results.  You're hoping for about 20-25 degree cooler temps?  I think that's a reasonable expectation.

Thanks dude. I dont know what to expect with the trans cooler honestly.  If I can cruise at 85 in 105 -110 heat with trans temps in the 190's I would say I am winning.  Only time and money will tell.

True dat and it's good the cooler mods go easier on the wallet than most other upgrades we do to these beasts.  A cooler is anywhere from 50-200.  The Super fancy pants ones are upwards of 300.  Overall not too shabby
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on July 10, 2019, 10:05:16 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on July 09, 2019, 08:18:33 PM
Quote from: SM105K on July 09, 2019, 09:14:57 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on July 09, 2019, 05:50:05 AM
The SHO is looking top notch my friend!  The overlays look better than I imagined for a copper badge!  Etsy Designs does great work!

That cooler should improve your trans temps for sure.  Looking forward to your results.  You're hoping for about 20-25 degree cooler temps?  I think that's a reasonable expectation.

Thanks dude. I dont know what to expect with the trans cooler honestly.  If I can cruise at 85 in 105 -110 heat with trans temps in the 190's I would say I am winning.  Only time and money will tell.

True dat and it's good the cooler mods go easier on the wallet than most other upgrades we do to these beasts.  A cooler is anywhere from 50-200.  The Super fancy pants ones are upwards of 300.  Overall not too shabby

I may or may not tackle the trans cooler project this weekend.  It will all depend on how replacing the strut bearings in the Focus goes.  Ford has a brilliant design where the bearing's top (hat) and bottom (cup) separate and then the pieces slam together, so it sounds like the front is trying to fall out.  It is safe, but is rather annoying.  So I have to pull the struts out, and take them to Pep Boys so they can compress the springs and swap the bearings out.  Then reinstall. I am not motivated since it is suppose to be 111-112 degrees here for the next 5 days....so.

I also have to go to the junkyard on Friday, and find some Taurus' and remove the lower door exterior trim pieces, so I can remove the retaining clips from them properly and install them on my paint matched ones. It is never ending.     
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on July 11, 2019, 06:58:47 AM
The 3m tape didn't hold?  Usually that stuff is found being the "only" thing holding stuff on.  3m makes an adhesive primer called 3M 94 Primer.  Might want to try that as well.  I have some and if need be I will use it.  Try to remove the tape completely.  Prep with your 50/50 water/alcohol solution.  Dip a Q tip in the primer, apply a small amount to where you will stick the tape.  Allow to dry 5-10 min.  It goes on and dries clear.   Then add your fresh piece of 3m tape, apply firm pressure and then use a hair dryer or heat gun and apply more pressure.  Apply the 94 Primer to the trim piece where the tape will stick, let dry and when you go to adhere the two...do the same thing, apply pressure without heat then with heat.  Let cool.  It shouldn't fricken move! 

Forgive me if such thoughts and procedures are already in place or known just figured to walk through how I get things to stay in place. Btw that 8oz container will last your lifetime.  So about $25 dollars for a lifetime supply lol

https://www.amazon.com/3M-Tape-Primer-94-Vinyl/dp/B005LDG7HQ (https://www.amazon.com/3M-Tape-Primer-94-Vinyl/dp/B005LDG7HQ)
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on July 11, 2019, 08:45:07 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on July 11, 2019, 06:58:47 AM
The 3m tape didn't hold?  Usually that stuff is found being the "only" thing holding stuff on.  3m makes an adhesive primer called 3M 94 Primer.  Might want to try that as well.  I have some and if need be I will use it.  Try to remove the tape completely.  Prep with your 50/50 water/alcohol solution.  Dip a Q tip in the primer, apply a small amount to where you will stick the tape.  Allow to dry 5-10 min.  It goes on and dries clear.   Then add your fresh piece of 3m tape, apply firm pressure and then use a hair dryer or heat gun and apply more pressure.  Apply the 94 Primer to the trim piece where the tape will stick, let dry and when you go to adhere the two...do the same thing, apply pressure without heat then with heat.  Let cool.  It shouldn't fricken move! 

Forgive me if such thoughts and procedures are already in place or known just figured to walk through how I get things to stay in place. Btw that 8oz container will last your lifetime.  So about $25 dollars for a lifetime supply lol

https://www.amazon.com/3M-Tape-Primer-94-Vinyl/dp/B005LDG7HQ (https://www.amazon.com/3M-Tape-Primer-94-Vinyl/dp/B005LDG7HQ)

The 3M tape works, just the bottom trim/moulding won't stay down in the corners. It is actually anchored down with clips so the wind doesn't pull them up.  I am going to buy the primer, and it I have any issues with the upper trim I will address it.  I just want the stock clips (I broke mine) just for piece of mind, because in the past the SHO has made some 150+ mph passes and I haven't had any issues.  I want to keep it that way.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on July 11, 2019, 12:55:26 PM
150+ mph passes that's legit.  I've burried the needle once ....over 140 on a 65mph interstate is good enough for me lol I didn't try to tach it out as I had no idea how fast it was after 140.  I just kept going a few more seconds after 140 and let off
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on July 11, 2019, 01:02:26 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on July 11, 2019, 12:55:26 PM
150+ mph passes that's legit.  I've burried the needle once ....over 140 on a 65mph interstate is good enough for me lol I didn't try to tach it out as I had no idea how fast it was after 140.  I just kept going a few more seconds after 140 and let off

I had my SHO on GPS at 157 mph.  That is all she would do in the current configuration.  That was with a full tank, and my luggage.  I was in a hurry to get home from CA at 2 am in the morning.  I think with all the mods now, (including the DPs & tune revision) wheels, and quarter tank she will do 160+ mph.  Not bad for a heavy pig.  On a side note, the ST does 151 mph and actually runs out of gear in 6th.  Lol.   
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on July 11, 2019, 01:17:53 PM
Quote from: SM105K on July 11, 2019, 01:02:26 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on July 11, 2019, 12:55:26 PM
150+ mph passes that's legit.  I've burried the needle once ....over 140 on a 65mph interstate is good enough for me lol I didn't try to tach it out as I had no idea how fast it was after 140.  I just kept going a few more seconds after 140 and let off

I had my SHO on GPS at 157 mph.  That is all she would do in the current configuration.  That was with a full tank, and my luggage.  I was in a hurry to get home from CA at 2 am in the morning.  I think with all the mods now, (including the DPs & tune revision) wheels, and quarter tank she will do 160+ mph.  Not bad for a heavy pig.  On a side note, the ST does 151 mph and actually runs out of gear in 6th.  Lol.   

You're ripping!  2 am in the morning here going that fast you'd probably plaster a deer and that would suck.  Gotta watch out for them over yonder lol
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on July 11, 2019, 01:25:57 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on July 11, 2019, 01:17:53 PM
Quote from: SM105K on July 11, 2019, 01:02:26 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on July 11, 2019, 12:55:26 PM
150+ mph passes that's legit.  I've burried the needle once ....over 140 on a 65mph interstate is good enough for me lol I didn't try to tach it out as I had no idea how fast it was after 140.  I just kept going a few more seconds after 140 and let off

I had my SHO on GPS at 157 mph.  That is all she would do in the current configuration.  That was with a full tank, and my luggage.  I was in a hurry to get home from CA at 2 am in the morning.  I think with all the mods now, (including the DPs & tune revision) wheels, and quarter tank she will do 160+ mph.  Not bad for a heavy pig.  On a side note, the ST does 151 mph and actually runs out of gear in 6th.  Lol.   

You're ripping!  2 am in the morning here going that fast you'd probably plaster a deer and that would suck.  Gotta watch out for them over yonder lol

On the major highway from here to Ca (there are two) it is flat, straight, and wide open for 20 to 30 miles stretches.  If there is a full moon, you can see for miles.   Biggest thing I have ever seen on the side of the road is a coyote, so high speed runs are the norm.  In AZ on those stretches the speed limit is 75, and almost everyone sets their cruise at about 90 and the Highway doesn't even blink when they see you.  You can run 80-83 mph on those stretches of CA as well. This is why I am looking to upgrade my trans cooler, because of continuous higher speed cruising.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on July 11, 2019, 01:37:39 PM
I would do the same thing then...see what my top speed is!  I can't wait for you to do the cooler.  I want to see an improvement there. 
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on July 12, 2019, 07:35:13 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on July 11, 2019, 01:37:39 PM
I would do the same thing then...see what my top speed is!  I can't wait for you to do the cooler.  I want to see an improvement there.

You know.....when in Rome.....
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on July 22, 2019, 04:12:28 PM
Couple of updates...

PPE DP's are on the way.  I have also contacted my fabricator about the adding the quad tips to my exhaust as well. Once I buy the new trans cooler, this will close out this round of mods. 

The car will only need four things to be complete and I will be pretty much done.  Next up, Upgraded HPFP, GH Turbos, Meth (yes I said it), and then a built short block.   

Also, Brad is taking over tuning for my Focus ST as well.  The Ford Performance Tune is good.  However after data logging their tune, and reviewing it with Brad we
are seeing things that are less then to be desired.  91 octane, high boost spikes, and extreme heat isn't the best combo.  Going to throw her on Flex Fuel (E51) and she should be a lot happier.     
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on July 22, 2019, 06:15:45 PM
Come to the dark side young Skywalker .....endulge in METH!  You too shall suffer from the unquenchable thirst for methonal
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on July 23, 2019, 07:23:25 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on July 22, 2019, 06:15:45 PM
Come to the dark side young Skywalker .....endulge in METH!  You too shall suffer from the unquenchable thirst for methonal

You are completely ridiculous. LOL.  Meth will only be used to clean the valves.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on July 23, 2019, 12:53:14 PM
Quote from: SM105K on July 23, 2019, 07:23:25 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on July 22, 2019, 06:15:45 PM
Come to the dark side young Skywalker .....endulge in METH!  You too shall suffer from the unquenchable thirst for methonal

You are completely ridiculous. LOL.  Meth will only be used to clean the valves.

Yeah OK?  We'll see about that. 
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: shoNoff on July 23, 2019, 12:56:01 PM
Im pretty sure my car uses meth when im not looking.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on July 23, 2019, 09:17:09 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on July 23, 2019, 12:56:01 PM
Im pretty sure my car uses meth when im not looking.

Thats funny right there. 
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: shoNoff on July 23, 2019, 09:48:09 PM
Has to be some reason it's possessed. Today I drive it to dealer to trade it in and the sync screen goes completely black.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on July 24, 2019, 05:08:43 AM
Quote from: shoNoff on July 23, 2019, 09:48:09 PM
Has to be some reason it's possessed. Today I drive it to dealer to trade it in and the sync screen goes completely black.

Your car reminds me of that Stephen King movie "Christine" about the car that kills everyone.  Your car swerves towards road construction and didn't like you trying to trade her in, she made sure you didn't drive by the new Edge ST.  Freaky man......and you drove the salemen in the SHO to look for it...lol!  Your car is sisters with Topher's SHO....that thing is possessed too
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on July 24, 2019, 09:56:09 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on July 24, 2019, 05:08:43 AM
Quote from: shoNoff on July 23, 2019, 09:48:09 PM
Has to be some reason it's possessed. Today I drive it to dealer to trade it in and the sync screen goes completely black.

Your car reminds me of that Stephen King movie "Christine" about the car that kills everyone.  Your car swerves towards road construction and didn't like you trying to trade her in, she made sure you didn't drive by the new Edge ST.  Freaky man......and you drove the salemen in the SHO to look for it...lol!  Your car is sisters with Topher's SHO....that thing is possessed too

Geez....I just don't get how some cars are like this....
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on July 24, 2019, 10:32:38 AM
Quote from: SM105K on July 24, 2019, 09:56:09 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on July 24, 2019, 05:08:43 AM
Quote from: shoNoff on July 23, 2019, 09:48:09 PM
Has to be some reason it's possessed. Today I drive it to dealer to trade it in and the sync screen goes completely black.

Your car reminds me of that Stephen King movie "Christine" about the car that kills everyone.  Your car swerves towards road construction and didn't like you trying to trade her in, she made sure you didn't drive by the new Edge ST.  Freaky man......and you drove the salemen in the SHO to look for it...lol!  Your car is sisters with Topher's SHO....that thing is possessed too

Geez....I just don't get how some cars are like this....

Could be operator error too 😬
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on July 24, 2019, 11:29:17 AM
So..........

Gather around....it is story time.

Here is my timeline with the Ford Performance Calibration, and what happened during it.......

I did my research about a tune for the ST.  There is a guy here in Phoenix that documents everything that he does with his ST and he has the Ford Performance Calibration.  He gave a good review, and since he was having no issues with our craptastic 91 octane, and he said installation was a breeze. I thought since it was a daily, and I had only heard good things and it was going to save me money I pulled the trigger.  I confirmed on the website my laptop was compatible and low and behold it was.   

I paid $450 for the tuning software and colder plugs.  I wasn't worried about real time data and data logging.  The ST is my daily and I didn't want to deal with those aspects because 85% of the miles on this car are highway miles. 

The Calibration package arrived on a Saturday.  I confirmed my computer was compatible with Ford's Software again and started the process.  I the swapped the plugs out. I loaded the software and started the process of the loading the Calibration.  During the process it failed, and bricked the car.  I could not recover the stock tune, and the car was a paperweight.

I had it towed to Bell Ford on Wednesday four days later after "working" with a Ford Performance Rep that could not understand why this happened.  Bell Ford talked with Ford Performance and the tech re-flashed the stock tune.  I then in front of the tech with FP on the phone, tried to load FP Calibration.  It once again failed and bricked the car for a second time.  I had the tech re-flash the car back to stock, and sent the reports to FP.  Bell Ford charged me $159.99 for the re-flash.

So running tally......$450 Calibration + $159.99 re-flash = $609.99

After a couple days Ford Performance got back to me and told me the lead programmer said it was my computer that was the problem.  So I went to Fry's Electronics and bought a lap top that was compatible with what the programmer told me. This would also allow me to use this laptop for tuning purposes for future builds including data logging the SHO (which my old lap top has zero issues with).  So literally all in one.  $499 dollars later.  With the new laptop, and a new "Calibration Key" from FP, I went back to Bell Ford and I loaded Calibration finally.  I did it at Bell Ford just in case it bricked again.  They know me now, and they had zero issues helping me.   The Calibration worked damn good as well.  I was happy. However, I noticed that the car would bury the boost gauge sometimes at 25 psi, and that got me wondering.   

So running tally.....$450.00 Calibration + $159.99 reflash + 550.99 new "tuning laptop" = $1160.98 running tally.

After chatting with Brad and having him review the Ford Calibration logs, he voiced some concerns. I took those and filed them in the back of my head.  Once the heat showed up here in Phoenix, I started getting uneasy about the big boost, heat, and crappy 91 octane.  Brad and I discussed that I could run my ST on Flex Fuel and straight E85 with no fuel system mods to the ST.  I decided to jump ship.  He told me to send him the strategy.  I did and he said it was not valid for my ST.  He explained the FP Calibration changes the strategy and that I would have to re-flash it back to stock using the FP software.  I did, and it bricked for a third time. This happened on a Saturday afternoon.

Long story short, it was towed once again to a new Ford Dealership.  Bell Ford (never again) told me it would take them 10 days to do a re-flash.  I told to the service manager, who literally sat next to me in the service bay of the tech working on my car for the first re-flash.  She said, she might be able to squeeze me in, on Thursday...5 days later.  I lol'd and basically told them to.....well you know. I called Camelback Ford at 2 pm on a Saturday (they close at 4 pm).  I explained to the service manager what happened and he needless to say was disappointed in FP and Bell Ford. He told me, if I could get the car to them before 4:30 pm (he was going to stay late) and he would personally re-flash the car and bill FP directly.

I called a tow company and got the car to them at 3:30 pm.  I showed him my invoices, and emails and he apologized for something he had zero doings about.  I showed him what was going on with my car and PF's software and he confirmed the car was bricked.  He then re-flashed my car back to stock.  There was no talk of a bill, the man shook my hand and said if you need anything let me know directly.  Awesome.  Everything was wrapped up by 4:15 pm. 

Camelback Ford is now my choice dealership.  My ST will gets it's recall work there (don't get me started about that) and if I buy another Ford I will look their first. 

So $1160.98 for a Calibration to be loaded, car bricked three times, and two tows to the dealership.....

Yeah I should have worked with Brad first.  For the money and  time wasted on the ST Calibration, I could have bought a xdi HPFP for the SHO....
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: shoNoff on July 24, 2019, 12:03:07 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on July 24, 2019, 10:32:38 AM
Quote from: SM105K on July 24, 2019, 09:56:09 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on July 24, 2019, 05:08:43 AM
Quote from: shoNoff on July 23, 2019, 09:48:09 PM
Has to be some reason it's possessed. Today I drive it to dealer to trade it in and the sync screen goes completely black.

Your car reminds me of that Stephen King movie "Christine" about the car that kills everyone.  Your car swerves towards road construction and didn't like you trying to trade her in, she made sure you didn't drive by the new Edge ST.  Freaky man......and you drove the salemen in the SHO to look for it...lol!  Your car is sisters with Topher's SHO....that thing is possessed too

Geez....I just don't get how some cars are like this....

Could be operator error too 😬

Could also be you douche canoes dont ever drive your cars.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: shoNoff on July 24, 2019, 12:10:42 PM
Quote from: SM105K on July 24, 2019, 11:29:17 AM
So..........

Gather around....it is story time.

Here is my timeline with the Ford Performance Calibration, and what happened during it.......

I did my research about a tune for the ST.  There is a guy here in Phoenix that documents everything that he does with his ST and he has the Ford Performance Calibration.  He gave a good review, and since he was having no issues with our craptastic 91 octane, and he said installation was a breeze. I thought since it was a daily, and I had only heard good things and it was going to save me money I pulled the trigger.  I confirmed on the website my laptop was compatible and low and behold it was.   

I paid $450 for the tuning software and colder plugs.  I wasn't worried about real time data and data logging.  The ST is my daily and I didn't want to deal with those aspects because 85% of the miles on this car are highway miles. 

The Calibration package arrived on a Saturday.  I confirmed my computer was compatible with Ford's Software again and started the process.  I the swapped the plugs out. I loaded the software and started the process of the loading the Calibration.  During the process it failed, and bricked the car.  I could not recover the stock tune, and the car was a paperweight.

I had it towed to Bell Ford on Wednesday four days later after "working" with a Ford Performance Rep that could not understand why this happened.  Bell Ford talked with Ford Performance and the tech re-flashed the stock tune.  I then in front of the tech with FP on the phone, tried to load FP Calibration.  It once again failed and bricked the car for a second time.  I had the tech re-flash the car back to stock, and sent the reports to FP.  Bell Ford charged me $159.99 for the re-flash.

So running tally......$450 Calibration + $159.99 re-flash = $609.99

After a couple days Ford Performance got back to me and told me the lead programmer said it was my computer that was the problem.  So I went to Fry's Electronics and bought a lap top that was compatible with what the programmer told me. This would also allow me to use this laptop for tuning purposes for future builds including data logging the SHO (which my old lap top has zero issues with).  So literally all in one.  $499 dollars later.  With the new laptop, and a new "Calibration Key" from FP, I went back to Bell Ford and I loaded Calibration finally.  I did it at Bell Ford just in case it bricked again.  They know me now, and they had zero issues helping me.   The Calibration worked damn good as well.  I was happy. However, I noticed that the car would bury the boost gauge sometimes at 25 psi, and that got me wondering.   

So running tally.....$450.00 Calibration + $159.99 reflash + 550.99 new "tuning laptop" = $1160.98 running tally.

After chatting with Brad and having him review the Ford Calibration logs, he voiced some concerns. I took those and filed them in the back of my head.  Once the heat showed up here in Phoenix, I started getting uneasy about the big boost, heat, and crappy 91 octane.  Brad and I discussed that I could run my ST on Flex Fuel and straight E85 with no fuel system mods to the ST.  I decided to jump ship.  He told me to send him the strategy.  I did and he said it was not valid for my ST.  He explained the FP Calibration changes the strategy and that I would have to re-flash it back to stock using the FP software.  I did, and it bricked for a third time. This happened on a Saturday afternoon.

Long story short, it was towed once again to a new Ford Dealership.  Bell Ford (never again) told me it would take them 10 days to do a re-flash.  I told to the service manager, who literally sat next to me in the service bay of the tech working on my car for the first re-flash.  She said, she might be able to squeeze me in, on Thursday...5 days later.  I lol'd and basically told them to.....well you know. I called Camelback Ford at 2 pm on a Saturday (they close at 4 pm).  I explained to the service manager what happened and he needless to say was disappointed in FP and Bell Ford. He told me, if I could get the car to them before 4:30 pm (he was going to stay late) and he would personally re-flash the car and bill FP directly.

I called a tow company and got the car to them at 3:30 pm.  I showed him my invoices, and emails and he apologized for something he had zero doings about.  I showed him what was going on with my car and PF's software and he confirmed the car was bricked.  He then re-flashed my car back to stock.  There was no talk of a bill, the man shook my hand and said if you need anything let me know directly.  Awesome.  Everything was wrapped up by 4:15 pm. 

Camelback Ford is now my choice dealership.  My ST will gets it's recall work there (don't get me started about that) and if I buy another Ford I will look their first. 

So $1160.98 for a Calibration to be loaded, car bricked three times, and two tows to the dealership.....

Yeah I should have worked with Brad first.  For the money and  time wasted on the ST Calibration, I could have bought a xdi HPFP for the SHO....

This here is my life in a nut shell. Dude that really blows man, Ive been there. That second dealer sounded awesome. Its so funny dealer to dealer what people are willing to do to help you. Hell my local ford dealer couldn't even find the Edge ST I was going to buy last night.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on July 24, 2019, 12:59:15 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on July 24, 2019, 12:03:07 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on July 24, 2019, 10:32:38 AM
Quote from: SM105K on July 24, 2019, 09:56:09 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on July 24, 2019, 05:08:43 AM
Quote from: shoNoff on July 23, 2019, 09:48:09 PM
Has to be some reason it's possessed. Today I drive it to dealer to trade it in and the sync screen goes completely black.

Your car reminds me of that Stephen King movie "Christine" about the car that kills everyone.  Your car swerves towards road construction and didn't like you trying to trade her in, she made sure you didn't drive by the new Edge ST.  Freaky man......and you drove the salemen in the SHO to look for it...lol!  Your car is sisters with Topher's SHO....that thing is possessed too

Geez....I just don't get how some cars are like this....

Could be operator error too 😬

Could also be you douche canoes dont ever drive your cars.

Maybe that is why I we don't have these problems? LOL...I prefer douche spicket personally.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on July 24, 2019, 01:07:29 PM
Wow FP sucks!!!  What a fiasco!  Well I'm glad you got the ST in the right hands now.  I would have lost my sanity with the whole thing...even getting mad at the car too. 

I too prefer douche rag if you feel the need to talk to me in my native tongue lol! 
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: FearlessAZ on July 24, 2019, 01:12:38 PM
Even 5 days is absolutely ridiculous for a reflash. At least Camelback Ford stepped up. Getting harder and harder to find good dealerships out this way.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on July 24, 2019, 01:29:46 PM
Quote from: FearlessAZ on July 24, 2019, 01:12:38 PM
Even 5 days is absolutely ridiculous for a reflash. At least Camelback Ford stepped up. Getting harder and harder to find good dealerships out this way.

Yeah....so.  Even a day for a re-flash is pushing it.  It takes 10 mins, literally.  I know.......

Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: FearlessAZ on July 24, 2019, 02:10:07 PM
You know a few times. Lol
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on July 24, 2019, 02:33:01 PM
Quote from: FearlessAZ on July 24, 2019, 02:10:07 PM
You know a few times. Lol

That is why I think it is so asinine, and I why I will not work with Bell Ford again. 
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on August 03, 2019, 08:38:36 PM
Got the PPE catted DP's in and they already make a difference for my set up. I heat wrapped them as well.


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Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on August 03, 2019, 09:29:33 PM
Nice man!  Two for one, cooler PTU and more POWA
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on August 03, 2019, 09:45:32 PM
It is definitely more interesting to say the least.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: ZSHO on August 04, 2019, 06:47:28 PM
I'm looking forward to some Dyno sessions which should easily surpass 400whp! Z  ;)
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on August 04, 2019, 07:02:22 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on August 04, 2019, 06:47:28 PM
I'm looking forward to some Dyno sessions which should easily surpass 400whp! Z  ;)

If it doesn't, I will hit it with nitrous....lol.

She will get strapped to the dyno again when it isnt 900 degress out.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 76fomoco on August 04, 2019, 07:21:21 PM
Serious question why aren't we spraying these with nitrous?? Especially out of the track set it up and run 3rd and 4th and 5th gear
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on August 04, 2019, 08:27:44 PM
Quote from: 76fomoco on August 04, 2019, 07:21:21 PM
Serious question why aren't we spraying these with nitrous?? Especially out of the track set it up and run 3rd and 4th and 5th gear

I think if you have the fuel you should hit it with a very small dry shot. More of a chemical intercooler.

I am a nitrous guy and I understand the compounding boost and a wet nitrous kit, so it doesnt scare me. I just would feel better about it if I have the upgraded hpfp. 

I dont see why more people havent.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on August 05, 2019, 01:18:27 PM
Quote from: SM105K on August 04, 2019, 08:27:44 PM
Quote from: 76fomoco on August 04, 2019, 07:21:21 PM
Serious question why aren't we spraying these with nitrous?? Especially out of the track set it up and run 3rd and 4th and 5th gear

I think if you have the fuel you should hit it with a very small dry shot. More of a chemical intercooler.

I am a nitrous guy and I understand the compounding boost and a wet nitrous kit, so it doesnt scare me. I just would feel better about it if I have the upgraded hpfp. 

I dont see why more people havent.

Methonal and Nitrous are very compatible.  So something like a tiny nozzle, tap that nitrous nozzle into the throttle body housing in front of the actual throttle but just before it.  Such a small amount should work well ...maybe too well but wouldn't that tiny nozzle with like a Zex safe shot(35) shot be very safe?   
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on August 05, 2019, 01:24:50 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 05, 2019, 01:18:27 PM
Quote from: SM105K on August 04, 2019, 08:27:44 PM
Quote from: 76fomoco on August 04, 2019, 07:21:21 PM
Serious question why aren't we spraying these with nitrous?? Especially out of the track set it up and run 3rd and 4th and 5th gear

I think if you have the fuel you should hit it with a very small dry shot. More of a chemical intercooler.

I am a nitrous guy and I understand the compounding boost and a wet nitrous kit, so it doesnt scare me. I just would feel better about it if I have the upgraded hpfp. 

I dont see why more people havent.

Methonal and Nitrous are very compatibale.  So something like a tiny nozzle, tap that nitrous nozzle into the throttle body housing in front of the actual throttle but just before it.  Such a small amount should work well ...maybe too well but wouldn't that tiny nozzle with like a Zex safe shot(35) shot be very safe?

It will be however, I would tap it directly post intercooler.  That will give it time to disperse with the boost and will lower the temp in the charge pipe and manifold.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on August 05, 2019, 01:28:12 PM
Suppose it doesn't matter then to spray nitrous post intercooler and pre IAT sensor and pre methonal nozzles?
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on August 05, 2019, 01:38:33 PM
With such a small amount to spray and since its a dry shot is getting a purge kit necessary and a bottle heater?
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 76fomoco on August 05, 2019, 01:42:02 PM
a purge kit would be a must as the line from the trunk to the motor will have gassed off.
guys at the track do not use bottle heaters but they are packing a second bottle as you can not use all of one bottle due to pressure drop
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on August 05, 2019, 02:15:55 PM
Honestly, I would say no to both.  With such a small shot, bottle pressure really isn't a issue.  I always motor purged my nitrous, but if you want the cool factor of a purge then yes. 
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on August 05, 2019, 02:18:06 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 05, 2019, 01:28:12 PM
Suppose it doesn't matter then to spray nitrous post intercooler and pre IAT sensor and pre methonal nozzles?

Yes, pre on both.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on August 05, 2019, 02:44:34 PM
Purge your engine?  So I could just spray into the charge pipe to purge....yes a purge kit would be nice but an unnecessary cost if not needed.  Smallest jet included is .017.  That small enough?
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on August 05, 2019, 03:20:21 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 05, 2019, 02:44:34 PM
Purge your engine?  So I could just spray into the charge pipe to purge....yes a purge kit would be nice but an unnecessary cost if not needed.  Smallest jet included is .017.  That small enough?

Yes, hold the rpm at 2k and quickly press the button.  You will know when it hits, the rpms will bump. 

0.17 is perfect to start with.  I never got to see IAT temps with my Mustang, so it would be interesting so how low they can get.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on August 05, 2019, 03:25:38 PM
What's a price range for filling a 5lb bottle and what would be a rough estimate for how many passes I can get from one bottle? 
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on August 05, 2019, 03:32:30 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 05, 2019, 03:25:38 PM
What's a price range for filling a 5lb bottle and what would be a rough estimate for how many passes I can get from one bottle?

Depends on the price per lb or nitrous.  Call your local supplier.  With such a small jet, that bottle will last at least 20 passes.

For reference. On my Mustang with a 10 lb bottle and a 150 shot, it lasted nine passes.  With both kits 4.75 passes.  It would stutter at the end of the fifth run.  I just shut one kit down right when it started stuttering and it would carry through on the shark fogger.     
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on August 05, 2019, 04:25:06 PM
If my SHO with all the upgrades doesn't break 400 hp and click off a 12.20 in Oct...........

It will force my hand.  I have tried to reason with it and be nice. 

The conversation this morning at 430 am.  "Please do what you are suppose to.  Please don't force my hand and make me put a stand alone wet kit on you.  Please don't mess with me, because I am a stupid."
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on August 05, 2019, 04:58:33 PM
Quote from: SM105K on August 05, 2019, 04:25:06 PM
If my SHO with all the upgrades doesn't break 400 hp and click off a 12.20 in Oct...........

It will force my hand.  I have tried to reason with it and be nice. 

The conversation this morning at 430 am.  "Please do what you are suppose to.  Please don't force my hand and make me put a stand alone wet kit on you.  Please don't mess with me, because I am a stupid."

Thats pillow talk
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: shoNoff on August 05, 2019, 05:25:32 PM
Take it from me Easton these bastard sho's just don't listen. Now hit the son a b*tch with nitrous.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on August 06, 2019, 09:40:00 AM
Quote from: shoNoff on August 05, 2019, 05:25:32 PM
Take it from me Easton these bastard sho's just don't listen. Now hit the son a b*tch with nitrous.

I am at those crossroads...lol.  I am out of turbo and fuel, so they need to be upgraded together to compliment each other. At roughly $3600 dollars, plus my labor and
my time ...it is worth it right now? I keep seeing turbo and fuel pump cars in the 480-500 hp range. 

For less then $800 I can build a complete stand alone kit, and with a 50 shot make the same power and most likely go quicker because of the instant ability of nitrous to make TQ.  It is tempting.     
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: shoNoff on August 06, 2019, 05:38:31 PM
Do it
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 76fomoco on August 06, 2019, 07:25:40 PM
Quote from: SM105K on August 06, 2019, 09:40:00 AM
Quote from: shoNoff on August 05, 2019, 05:25:32 PM
Take it from me Easton these bastard sho's just don't listen. Now hit the son a b*tch with nitrous.

I am at those crossroads...lol.  I am out of turbo and fuel, so they need to be upgraded together to compliment each other. At roughly $3600 dollars, plus my labor and
my time ...it is worth it right now? I keep seeing turbo and fuel pump cars in the 480-500 hp range.

For less then $800 I can build a complete stand alone kit, and with a 50 shot make the same power and most likely go quicker because of the instant ability of nitrous to make TQ.  It is tempting.     

if you would like I will "Loan you" my extra 13 HP over 400 so you can get there without spending the 3600.00  ;)
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on August 06, 2019, 07:31:54 PM
Do it or else this is going to happen
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: shoNoff on August 06, 2019, 08:22:58 PM
The price is wrong b*tch
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on August 07, 2019, 08:42:45 AM
Quote from: 76fomoco on August 06, 2019, 07:25:40 PM
Quote from: SM105K on August 06, 2019, 09:40:00 AM
Quote from: shoNoff on August 05, 2019, 05:25:32 PM
Take it from me Easton these bastard sho's just don't listen. Now hit the son a b*tch with nitrous.

I am at those crossroads...lol.  I am out of turbo and fuel, so they need to be upgraded together to compliment each other. At roughly $3600 dollars, plus my labor and
my time ...it is worth it right now? I keep seeing turbo and fuel pump cars in the 480-500 hp range.

For less then $800 I can build a complete stand alone kit, and with a 50 shot make the same power and most likely go quicker because of the instant ability of nitrous to make TQ.  It is tempting.     

if you would like I will "Loan you" my extra 13 HP over 400 so you can get there without spending the 3600.00  ;)

If I put a wet kit on the car, I am not looking to just bump the power.  I will radial her down, and I am going record hunting at full weight.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on August 07, 2019, 12:51:29 PM
Given your background and experience with nitrous I wonder why it doesnt already have a kit on it.  But maybe you just didn't want to go there.  It was your daily before but it's not now.  If you do decide to build a kit, I bet it it will be epic.  At least you can decide to do this at any time.  I'm looking forward to your next dyno session as I expect to see some great improvements with the new IC and downpipes, tq mounts, wheel/tires
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on August 07, 2019, 01:14:36 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 07, 2019, 12:51:29 PM
Given your background and experience with nitrous I wonder why it doesnt already have a kit on it.  But maybe you just didn't want to go there.  It was your daily before but it's not now.  If you do decide to build a kit, I bet it it will be epic.  At least you can decide to do this at any time.  I'm looking forward to your next dyno session as I expect to see some great improvements with the new IC and downpipes, tq mounts, wheel/tires

I didn't want to put a kit on the car because it was never suppose to be a "fast" car.  However there are numerous factors changing my mind.

1. It isn't a daily.
2. There is a 2.5 year warranty on left on my trans.
3. My current configuration is maxed out.
4. I have all the supporting mods for a stand alone kit.

I could actually have Brad pull boost (which will help fuel pressure) and with a EPP noise maker delete (which is next) I could place a fogger directly where a meth nozzle would go. It won't take much for a wet kit to make 480 to 500 hp.  I would worry about TQ personally, I think 600 tq to the tire will be a blast but will have diminishing returns.

I am 60 percent yes and 40 percent no right now.  However if I put a kit on the car, it won't be until the fall.  I will dyno this car as it sits and see where we are at.  Plus I plan to run in the 12.00 index at Street Car Takeover here in Oct.  After that I will either strap a kit to it, or not. 
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on August 07, 2019, 01:31:55 PM
See, you know exactly how to set it up and make it work.  I think waiting just a little longer is a good idea but then like you said after Oct....SEND IT
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: shoNoff on August 07, 2019, 07:24:50 PM
The instant torque is what would concern me. What if you ran it on a progressive controller? You could then bring the power in more slowly. That way it didn't shock the drivetrain so bad at the hit. I've played with nitrous on a few cars. Not quite as many as you but it doesn't scare me either.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 76fomoco on August 07, 2019, 08:56:14 PM
seems like with some of the new controllers you can pick progressive, what gear and what rpm. I would start in 3rd after 3500 rpm as our cars fall a bit short on the long end.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on August 07, 2019, 11:02:22 PM
Yeah have never been a progressive controller guy. Basically what I would do it start small and work up. Leave on the converter in boost and when my foot hits the floor, its on.

I would keep my E30 tune for my running around.

Then I would have Brad build me a complete nitrous tune. Lower boost, lower timing, and just on a 50 shot with such a small CI plus boost...that 50 shot should make around 100 hp more to the tire.

To address the tq we could limit it to 550 then we would be cooking with fire. 500 hp and 550 tq to the tire with a 1.70 sixty foot should put her bottom 11.00's in the right conditions and still be safe.


I would run E100 for the wet nitrous fuel source so I wouldn't have to worry about mixing fuels.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on August 08, 2019, 05:15:14 AM
I found this video and it's pretty fricken cool! 
https://youtu.be/AScojLj139A
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 76fomoco on August 08, 2019, 09:49:15 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 08, 2019, 05:15:14 AM
I found this video and it's pretty fricken cool! 
https://youtu.be/AScojLj139A

Wow that thing made more power than I thought it would
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: shoNoff on August 08, 2019, 09:55:35 AM
Quote from: SM105K on August 07, 2019, 11:02:22 PM
Yeah have never been a progressive controller guy. Basically what I would do it start small and work up. Leave on the converter in boost and when my foot hits the floor, its on.

I would keep my E30 tune for my running around.

Then I would have Brad build me a complete nitrous tune. Lower boost, lower timing, and just on a 50 shot with such a small CI plus boost...that 50 shot should make around 100 hp more to the tire.

To address the tq we could limit it to 550 then we would be cooking with fire. 500 hp and 550 tq to the tire with a 1.70 sixty foot should put her bottom 11.00's in the right conditions and still be safe.


I would run E100 for the wet nitrous fuel source so I wouldn't have to worry about mixing fuels.

I've always run a controller. Being a drag racer I felt I could fine tune the system a lot more with a controller. Especially to track conditions or a bad track. I guess it's more important when you are trying to hit a certain ET where ever you run. More then one way to skin a cat for sure. God I miss nitrous.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on August 08, 2019, 12:01:00 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on August 08, 2019, 09:55:35 AM
Quote from: SM105K on August 07, 2019, 11:02:22 PM
Yeah have never been a progressive controller guy. Basically what I would do it start small and work up. Leave on the converter in boost and when my foot hits the floor, its on.

I would keep my E30 tune for my running around.

Then I would have Brad build me a complete nitrous tune. Lower boost, lower timing, and just on a 50 shot with such a small CI plus boost...that 50 shot should make around 100 hp more to the tire.

To address the tq we could limit it to 550 then we would be cooking with fire. 500 hp and 550 tq to the tire with a 1.70 sixty foot should put her bottom 11.00's in the right conditions and still be safe.


I would run E100 for the wet nitrous fuel source so I wouldn't have to worry about mixing fuels.

I've always run a controller. Being a drag racer I felt I could fine tune the system a lot more with a controller. Especially to track conditions or a bad track. I guess it's more important when you are trying to hit a certain ET where ever you run. More then one way to skin a cat for sure. God I miss nitrous.

I don't like the fact that a window switch runs my whole nitrous system.  I ran both of my kits on manual buttons always.  This isnt going to be dedicated drag set up.  I will load the tune, and if I need it, then I will use it.   
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 76fomoco on August 08, 2019, 12:22:07 PM
have you emailed Brad yet for supporting tunes?
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on August 08, 2019, 12:47:14 PM
Quote from: 76fomoco on August 08, 2019, 12:22:07 PM
have you emailed Brad yet for supporting tunes?

Not yet, I guess he has been busy.  I won't put a kit (if I do) until the fall anyways.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on August 08, 2019, 01:26:15 PM
Quote from: SM105K on August 08, 2019, 12:47:14 PM
Quote from: 76fomoco on August 08, 2019, 12:22:07 PM
have you emailed Brad yet for supporting tunes?

Not yet, I guess he has been busy.  I won't put a kit (if I do) until the fall anyways.

If this idea of a chemical intercooler works I think you might not wait until fall to do yours
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on August 08, 2019, 01:32:57 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 08, 2019, 01:26:15 PM
Quote from: SM105K on August 08, 2019, 12:47:14 PM
Quote from: 76fomoco on August 08, 2019, 12:22:07 PM
have you emailed Brad yet for supporting tunes?

Not yet, I guess he has been busy.  I won't put a kit (if I do) until the fall anyways.

If this idea of a chemical intercooler works I think you might not wait until fall to do yours

It isn't an idea.  I proved it worked almost 12 years ago.  People are just so taboo about Nitrous.

When it boils down to it.  I personally won't be using Nitrous as a chemical intercooler like what you are planning to do.  My set up will be a flat out compound power adder.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: shoNoff on August 08, 2019, 03:12:45 PM
Quote from: SM105K on August 08, 2019, 12:01:00 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on August 08, 2019, 09:55:35 AM
Quote from: SM105K on August 07, 2019, 11:02:22 PM
Yeah have never been a progressive controller guy. Basically what I would do it start small and work up. Leave on the converter in boost and when my foot hits the floor, its on.

I would keep my E30 tune for my running around.

Then I would have Brad build me a complete nitrous tune. Lower boost, lower timing, and just on a 50 shot with such a small CI plus boost...that 50 shot should make around 100 hp more to the tire.

To address the tq we could limit it to 550 then we would be cooking with fire. 500 hp and 550 tq to the tire with a 1.70 sixty foot should put her bottom 11.00's in the right conditions and still be safe.


I would run E100 for the wet nitrous fuel source so I wouldn't have to worry about mixing fuels.

I've always run a controller. Being a drag racer I felt I could fine tune the system a lot more with a controller. Especially to track conditions or a bad track. I guess it's more important when you are trying to hit a certain ET where ever you run. More then one way to skin a cat for sure. God I miss nitrous.

I don't like the fact that a window switch runs my whole nitrous system.  I ran both of my kits on manual buttons always.  This isnt going to be dedicated drag set up.  I will load the tune, and if I need it, then I will use it.   

Street car I agree with you. My mind instantly goes to 7/8 second dragcars lol. Leaving with the wheels in the air for 100 plus feet you want a window switch. Especially if you have to peddle it. Plus with a 1.09 60 foot you're  kinda are holding on. I was just thinking of an easier way to get the spray to come on. Just the instant torque scares me on the drivetrain. Your idea will work no doubt in my mind. I also have a feeling after one does it many will.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on August 08, 2019, 04:01:54 PM
Mike @ EPP ran some on his Flex I believe.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on August 12, 2019, 03:09:41 PM
Couple of things....

SHO:

Ordered an Extreme Dimensions front chin spoiler today. In conjunction to Andrew's splitter combination, that will be the next exterior upgrades on the SHO.  Also since I have to remove the front clip, I will also be adding the bigger trans cooler during that install as well. 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EC4BV4S?pf_rd_p=183f5289-9dc0-416f-942e-e8f213ef368b&pf_rd_r=G8KP01V4Q6F27FASXBD1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EC4BV4S?pf_rd_p=183f5289-9dc0-416f-942e-e8f213ef368b&pf_rd_r=G8KP01V4Q6F27FASXBD1)

Looking at that one.  I know it is black, but if it works awesome.  If it doesn't then I am out fluid and $61.00 bucks lol. Worth the try. 

ST:

The ST just got a Megan Racing downpipe ordered for it.  This will replace the factory dp and first cat.  This should free up some power and help with the fuel mileage.  If it arrives this week, I will yank the struts and have the strut bearings replaced.  Since the struts will be out of it, this will free up a lot of space for the removal of the stock equipment, and installation of the new dp.     
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on August 12, 2019, 06:58:36 PM
I can't wait to see it all done!  The cooler will work just will it work better than the factory PP cooler?  Guess we'll see. 

The ST will really try to kill you now that you're letting it breathe
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on August 12, 2019, 07:18:02 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 12, 2019, 06:58:36 PM
I can't wait to see it all done!  The cooler will work just will it work better than the factory PP cooler?  Guess we'll see. 

The ST will really try to kill you now that you're letting it breathe

The SHO should look pretty sharp, and the ST...well it will just be...itself. Just worse.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: FLEXXX on August 13, 2019, 10:03:18 AM
I use a NOS progressive mini controller. I can set it for each gear or boost or just rpm for activation and ramp up / down. I have 150shot jets in it (.056n  .048f) but have the max set to 80%. I ran about a half dozen bottles (15# bottles)through the stock 120k motor before I put my new one in. never had a issue, just got to be smart and safe on tune and ramp aggression. I have not sprayed the new motor combo yet as I am still working on getting everything out of it first.  I don't think you should have any problems.

Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on August 13, 2019, 10:18:37 AM
Quote from: FLEXXX on August 13, 2019, 10:03:18 AM
I use a NOS progressive mini controller. I can set it for each gear or boost or just rpm for activation and ramp up / down. I have 150shot jets in it (.056n  .048f) but have the max set to 80%. I ran about a half dozen bottles (15# bottles)through the stock 120k motor before I put my new one in. never had a issue, just got to be smart and safe on tune and ramp aggression. I have not sprayed the new motor combo yet as I am still working on getting everything out of it first.  I don't think you should have any problems.

Thanks for the info. I am probably going to throw a kit on the car just because. Once I do I will decide which route will be the best and go from there.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: ZSHO on August 13, 2019, 11:01:18 AM
FWIW - As long as your pocket is happy proceed! Best of luck with the Mods and all cause take it from me it never ends. Z
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on August 13, 2019, 11:45:20 AM
Quote from: ZSHO on August 13, 2019, 11:01:18 AM
FWIW - As long as your pocket is happy proceed! Best of luck with the Mods and all cause take it from me it never ends. Z

It certainly will be fun, for both vehicles. Thanks for the kind words Z. 
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on August 13, 2019, 02:18:56 PM
Must have some deep pockets buddy lol!  I'm definitely on board with having nitrous....just bc!
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on August 13, 2019, 02:36:19 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 13, 2019, 02:18:56 PM
Must have some deep pockets buddy lol!  I'm definitely on board with having nitrous....just bc!

I wish I had deep pockets lol.  When it comes to cars....I don't have a problem spending money.  When it comes to everything else...esp clothes I become Scrooge.

Also, I have been fortunate enough to find exception deals here and there. 
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: bpd1151 on August 13, 2019, 02:53:53 PM


Quote from: SM105K on August 13, 2019, 02:36:19 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 13, 2019, 02:18:56 PM
Must have some deep pockets buddy lol!  I'm definitely on board with having nitrous....just bc!

I wish I had deep pockets lol.  When it comes to cars....I don't have a problem spending money.  When it comes to everything else...esp clothes I become Scrooge.

Also, I have been fortunate enough to find exception deals here and there.

Well you can afford to be a Scrooge when it comes to expanding your wardrobe, or in your specific case *NOT*......

Fortunately you workout, so you can pull off wearing the banana hammock only wherever you go.

Bwahahahaha

Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on August 13, 2019, 04:04:08 PM
Very provocative there Easton.  You Skank!
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on August 13, 2019, 06:11:52 PM
You two....you guys make my face laugh.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 76fomoco on August 13, 2019, 06:36:51 PM
Quote from: bpd1151 on August 13, 2019, 02:53:53 PM


Quote from: SM105K on August 13, 2019, 02:36:19 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 13, 2019, 02:18:56 PM
Must have some deep pockets buddy lol!  I'm definitely on board with having nitrous....just bc!

I wish I had deep pockets lol.  When it comes to cars....I don't have a problem spending money.  When it comes to everything else...esp clothes I become Scrooge.

Also, I have been fortunate enough to find exception deals here and there.

Well you can afford to be a Scrooge when it comes to expanding your wardrobe, or in your specific case *NOT*......

Fortunately you workout, so you can pull off wearing the banana hammock only wherever you go.

Bwahahahaha

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Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: bpd1151 on August 13, 2019, 07:00:25 PM
Bwahahahahahahaha......

That's flip'n HILARIOUS 76!



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Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on August 14, 2019, 04:02:00 PM
Just got confirmation that The Go Cart's downpipe was delivered today!  So Operation Silence Is Deadly will commence this weekend.  New strut bearings, new downpipe, updated big boost E51 tune, and a fresh oil change should make The Go Cart a bit more.......Anghellic.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on August 14, 2019, 09:09:34 PM
More like satanic!  Raising hell no less! 
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on August 16, 2019, 11:40:53 AM
All the parts arrived for the ST. I will tear it apart tomorrow morning. I am really impressed with the Megan Racing Downpipe. If it fits like it is made, then it is a complete steal of a price for an upgrade. $174 shipped to my house, arrived 2nd day shipping.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on August 16, 2019, 07:18:30 PM
I wish they all were priced simular to that!  Its going to be a good weekend with the Focus!  Looking forward to hearing what you think of the new upgrades!
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: shoNoff on August 17, 2019, 10:45:37 AM
My dad has a megan downpipe on his ecoboost mustang. I was extremely impressed by the craftsmanship. I want to say it was only like $180.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on August 17, 2019, 11:13:50 PM
It is a pretty nice piece. I had a hard time with the struts today, also Pep Boys didnt help by taking 8 hours to switch out the bearing for me. Oh well. I will button it up tomorrow.  However, the DP is installed, and oil is changed. Just have to re install the wheels and tires, and put the cowl back together.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SHOdded on August 17, 2019, 11:27:39 PM
wow that oem dp is massive!
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: shoNoff on August 18, 2019, 09:39:00 AM
No restrictions there can't even see why you would change it lol
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on August 18, 2019, 04:15:21 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on August 17, 2019, 11:27:39 PM
wow that oem dp is massive!

And stupid heavy lol.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on August 19, 2019, 06:40:54 AM
Looks so much better and I'm sure it sounds/drives 10 times better!  Looks really good!  Is there such a thing as stainless welds? 
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on August 19, 2019, 09:27:38 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 19, 2019, 06:40:54 AM
Looks so much better and I'm sure it sounds/drives 10 times better!  Looks really good!  Is there such a thing as stainless welds?

The car does sound different and I feel a difference in the big end.  The tune needs to be adjusted because I have a dead pedal and it stumbles under a light load.  I data logged everything and Brad I am sure will adjust.  The car is fat, which I totally expected.  However, when the tune is finalized with more boost, the little car will be a straight monster.   
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on August 20, 2019, 06:18:29 AM
Oh yeah in a couple revisions it'll be perfect
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on August 20, 2019, 12:28:00 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 20, 2019, 06:18:29 AM
Oh yeah in a couple revisions it'll be perfect

Have a couple of things to do, and then load the revision and we will see what happens.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on August 21, 2019, 10:07:57 PM
Quote from: SM105K on August 20, 2019, 12:28:00 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 20, 2019, 06:18:29 AM
Oh yeah in a couple revisions it'll be perfect

Have a couple of things to do, and then load the revision and we will see what happens.

Did you do it.....did you do the thing....did you tune it yet!!!??? 
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on August 22, 2019, 09:00:15 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 21, 2019, 10:07:57 PM
Quote from: SM105K on August 20, 2019, 12:28:00 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 20, 2019, 06:18:29 AM
Oh yeah in a couple revisions it'll be perfect

Have a couple of things to do, and then load the revision and we will see what happens.

Did you do it.....did you do the thing....did you tune it yet!!!???

I did!  Got some things ironed out and she rips lol!  Even asking Brad to keep turning her up because we have some room in the mid range.

I would love for him to write a blurb about how "interesting" and I mean how terrible the Ford Performance Calibration is for these cars.  Geez, talk about Ford not being afraid.....
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on August 22, 2019, 08:51:02 PM
That surprised me yet doesn't surprise me.  I mean its like the lifetime fluid BS....they have to know it's really not a lifetime fluid ....like they must know their tune is a little reckless.....to keep you coming back in for service.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on August 23, 2019, 12:42:47 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 22, 2019, 08:51:02 PM
That surprised me yet doesn't surprise me.  I mean its like the lifetime fluid BS....they have to know it's really not a lifetime fluid ....like they must know their tune is a little reckless.....to keep you coming back in for service.

LOL.....as we discussed.  Should be interesting with all the new revisions that are getting loaded in tonight on both cars. 
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on August 26, 2019, 07:06:01 PM
Quote from: SM105K on August 23, 2019, 12:42:47 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 22, 2019, 08:51:02 PM
That surprised me yet doesn't surprise me.  I mean its like the lifetime fluid BS....they have to know it's really not a lifetime fluid ....like they must know their tune is a little reckless.....to keep you coming back in for service.

LOL.....as we discussed.  Should be interesting with all the new revisions that are getting loaded in tonight on both cars.

Have you got the suspension squared away on the ST?
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on August 27, 2019, 08:41:03 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 26, 2019, 07:06:01 PM
Quote from: SM105K on August 23, 2019, 12:42:47 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 22, 2019, 08:51:02 PM
That surprised me yet doesn't surprise me.  I mean its like the lifetime fluid BS....they have to know it's really not a lifetime fluid ....like they must know their tune is a little reckless.....to keep you coming back in for service.

LOL.....as we discussed.  Should be interesting with all the new revisions that are getting loaded in tonight on both cars.

Have you got the suspension squared away on the ST?

Blahahahah NO!  Still chatters/clunks.  I am just replacing parts at this rate. I think I have it isolated to the sway bar end links.  I ordered two new ones and all the hardware from Tasca.  Hopefully that will fix that crap.  Hopefully.  That is literally the only gripe I have with that car. Once that noise is gone, I will be so much happier.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on August 28, 2019, 09:19:05 AM
I too can't stand odd little noises that are more of an annoyance than a safety issue.  I hope you get that taken care of so you're back to enjoying every second of her.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: shoNoff on August 28, 2019, 01:01:39 PM
I had this death rattle in the passenger seat of my Sho. It used to drive me insane. I took the seat out 5 times looking for it. Never found it. I near got to the point of just ordering a friggin seat. I can't stand rattles hopefully you find it buddy.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on October 07, 2019, 11:58:48 AM
Finally figured out the damn clunk in the ST.  I needed a new motor mount.  Wow what a difference.  No more sound and less NVH lol.  I am slowly gaining my sanity back lol.  She got an oil change as well.

SHO got a fresh oil change as well.  The Castrol Edge was quite cleaner/clearer than the Mobil One was at 3K miles from what I observed.

She also got a 7 quart out and 7 quart in transmission flush.  It overachieved and I had to actually stop it because it showed zero signs of stopping at 7 quarts.   This is my first flush since the fluid only had 5k miles on it since the new trans.  I was surprised she gave me so much fluid.  Buttoned her up and rechecked everything and she seems to be happy.   

Also my black heat wrap around my PPE DP's is turning white due to the heat they are generating. I found that interesting as well.

I am in the process of purchasing a Magnaflow Resonator so I can delete the rear cat and stock resonator as well.  I will have a exhaust shop fab up a direct bolt in swap.  I will keep all of my stock stuff just in case I need it.   Below is the link to the other site that has pictures. 

https://shoforum.com/index.php?threads/sm105ks-ownership-performance-maintenance-thread.138235/page-18#post-1519104
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: ZSHO on October 07, 2019, 05:41:28 PM
Quote from: SM105K on August 03, 2019, 08:38:36 PM
Got the PPE catted DP's in and they already make a difference for my set up. I heat wrapped them as well.


(https://i.imgur.com/x7SDe6ch.jpg)

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Fixed a few PICS for ya. Z  :)  BTW feel free to send me a link of any PICS that need fixing! I need the work out!  :D

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Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on October 07, 2019, 08:23:42 PM
Quote from: SM105K on October 07, 2019, 11:58:48 AM
Finally figured out the damn clunk in the ST.  I needed a new motor mount.  Wow what a difference.  No more sound and less NVH lol.  I am slowly gaining my sanity back lol.  She got an oil change as well.

SHO got a fresh oil change as well.  The Castrol Edge was quite cleaner/clearer than the Mobil One was at 3K miles from what I observed.

She also got a 7 quart out and 7 quart in transmission flush.  It overachieved and I had to actually stop it because it showed zero signs of stopping at 7 quarts.   This is my first flush since the fluid only had 5k miles on it since the new trans.  I was surprised she gave me so much fluid.  Buttoned her up and rechecked everything and she seems to be happy.   

Also my black heat wrap around my PPE DP's is turning white due to the heat they are generating. I found that interesting as well.

I am in the process of purchasing a Magnaflow Resonator so I can delete the rear cat and stock resonator as well.  I will have a exhaust shop fab up a direct bolt in swap.  I will keep all of my stock stuff just in case I need it.   Below is the link to the other site that has pictures. 

https://shoforum.com/index.php?threads/sm105ks-ownership-performance-maintenance-thread.138235/page-18#post-1519104

Nice work my friend and finally no more clunk!!  Winter maintenance is anything below 80?  Haha I'm jealous in winter but glad i don't have your summer heat...geezuz.  7 quarts and you had to stop it?  That new trans is flowing well ...better than normal!  Now that you are the caretaker of the new trans with all your maintenance you shouldn't have much to worry about....defintely nothing fluid related that's for sure!
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: ZSHO on November 06, 2019, 04:47:44 PM
Those DP'S look Oh So familiar! Lol. Z :D 
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on November 07, 2019, 07:33:15 AM
Quote from: ZSHO on November 06, 2019, 04:47:44 PM
Those DP'S look Oh So familiar! Lol. Z :D

I laughed when I realized their journey.  They were built here, sent cross country, just to be sent back here.  LOL.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: ZSHO on November 07, 2019, 08:51:27 AM
Quote from: SM105K on November 07, 2019, 07:33:15 AM
Quote from: ZSHO on November 06, 2019, 04:47:44 PM
Those DP'S look Oh So familiar! Lol. Z :D

I laughed when I realized their journey.  They were built here, sent cross country, just to be sent back here.  LOL.
True indeed! Welcome Home! Z  :)
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on November 07, 2019, 09:51:16 AM
Quote from: ZSHO on November 07, 2019, 08:51:27 AM
Quote from: SM105K on November 07, 2019, 07:33:15 AM
Quote from: ZSHO on November 06, 2019, 04:47:44 PM
Those DP'S look Oh So familiar! Lol. Z :D

I laughed when I realized their journey.  They were built here, sent cross country, just to be sent back here.  LOL.
True indeed! Welcome Home! Z  :)

I love them, worth every penny.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on November 18, 2019, 08:53:11 AM
Couple of things.

I took the ST to CA this weekend.  I have the AJPTurbo Flex Fuel Tune and well......  This is the first time I have actually got to put E85 in it.  Holy crap what a difference.  Ford really did it right with the ST and its ability for the tuners to be able to do things like this.  However they really dropped the ball on the SHO. 

Couple of takeaways.

When I run 87 octane it gets the best mileage by far.  I use 87 on the long drives.  I cruise at 91 mph in AZ, and 81 mph in Ca.  Car gets roughly 25 mpg at that speed and really never see much boost unless I am passing.  Even when I the car sees boost there is no knock.  I have seen as high at 29 mpg at the proper speed limit.  I don't want nor do I have the time to drive the proper speed limit, and either does anyone around me either.

I run 91 octane during the non summer months with a lot of freeway driving 70/30 split with in town driving.  The ST is my daily.  I am averaging just at 24 mpg with my peppy driving.  The best I have netted is 27 mpg with non boost boring driving.  Since the air is colder now I lean towards 91 because it makes great power and for my driving on the freeway it gets the mileage for my boost happy right foot.

I run E54 during the summer.  I don't want to change my driving fun because of knock so she gets the corn during the summer heat.   The mileage suffers, but the performance and my happiness remains.  Best I can scrape with my normal peppy driving is 20 mpg.  Mileage really suffers if I use my right foot heavy.  I have seen it as slow as 18.5 mpg.

I ran a tank of E85 in Ca this past weekend. In CA E85 is readily available, in AZ only E54 is.  Holy crap what a difference.  The car was pretty stupid.  Way noticeable power and a riot to drive.  However, on long stretches of sustained 82 mph, she could only muster 19 mpg.  However...the smiles per gallon were worth it.  E85 was $2.89 a gallon, and 87 was $3.89.  I probably broke even in price point per mpg but to see what the car can do on all fuels is pretty damn cool.  Also I had ZERO cold start issues on E85 in low 30 degree weather as well.  So that is always a plus!

Hats off Brad...once again you killed it.

For the SHO:

The splitter arrived and I will be working with Andrew (802SHO) on a couple of things with it.  Should be fun.  Looking to do a couple of things to the SHO in the upcoming weeks. 

Splitter install on the stock chin spoiler coupled with a paint polish and another ceramic coating.   
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on November 18, 2019, 01:12:09 PM
Quote from: SM105K on November 18, 2019, 08:53:11 AM
Couple of things.

I took the ST to CA this weekend.  I have the AJPTurbo Flex Fuel Tune and well......  This is the first time I have actually got to put E85 in it.  Holy crap what a difference.  Ford really did it right with the ST and its ability for the tuners to be able to do things like this.  However they really dropped the ball on the SHO. 

Couple of takeaways.

When I run 87 octane it gets the best mileage by far.  I use 87 on the long drives.  I cruise at 91 mph in AZ, and 81 mph in Ca.  Car gets roughly 25 mpg at that speed and really never see much boost unless I am passing.  Even when I the car sees boost there is no knock.  I have seen as high at 29 mpg at the proper speed limit.  I don't want nor do I have the time to drive the proper speed limit, and either does anyone around me either.

I run 91 octane during the non summer months with a lot of freeway driving 70/30 split with in town driving.  The ST is my daily.  I am averaging just at 24 mpg with my peppy driving.  The best I have netted is 27 mpg with non boost boring driving.  Since the air is colder now I lean towards 91 because it makes great power and for my driving on the freeway it gets the mileage for my boost happy right foot.

I run E54 during the summer.  I don't want to change my driving fun because of knock so she gets the corn during the summer heat.   The mileage suffers, but the performance and my happiness remains.  Best I can scrape with my normal peppy driving is 20 mpg.  Mileage really suffers if I use my right foot heavy.  I have seen it as slow as 18.5 mpg.

I ran a tank of E85 in Ca this past weekend. In CA E85 is readily available, in AZ only E54 is.  Holy crap what a difference.  The car was pretty stupid.  Way noticeable power and a riot to drive.  However, on long stretches of sustained 82 mph, she could only muster 19 mpg.  However...the smiles per gallon were worth it.  E85 was $2.89 a gallon, and 87 was $3.89.  I probably broke even in price point per mpg but to see what the car can do on all fuels is pretty damn cool.  Also I had ZERO cold start issues on E85 in low 30 degree weather as well.  So that is always a plus!

Hats off Brad...once again you killed it.

For the SHO:

The splitter arrived and I will be working with Andrew (802SHO) on a couple of things with it.  Should be fun.  Looking to do a couple of things to the SHO in the upcoming weeks. 

Splitter install on the stock chin spoiler coupled with a paint polish and another ceramic coating.   

Man I bet that E85 power left a nice impression on the butt dyno!  Everyone that can safely run E85 ... Usually does.  Would if I could.  But maybe with upgraded fuel pumps I can do a tune revision with Brad for E60.  I can buy a barrel of E100 and mix it half and half with 93 E10.  Make a nice race tune with it.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on November 18, 2019, 01:36:26 PM
That is exactly what I am thinking as well, but just with pump E54.  YES! More money to spend!
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on November 19, 2019, 12:40:21 PM
Quote from: SM105K on November 18, 2019, 01:36:26 PM
That is exactly what I am thinking as well, but just with pump E54.  YES! More money to spend!

This was your idea...just like the No2.  Going to have to start charging me for your advise.  Especially if you don't do it but I do.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on November 19, 2019, 02:03:22 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on November 19, 2019, 12:40:21 PM
Quote from: SM105K on November 18, 2019, 01:36:26 PM
That is exactly what I am thinking as well, but just with pump E54.  YES! More money to spend!

This was your idea...just like the No2.  Going to have to start charging me for your advise.  Especially if you don't do it but I do.

Oh yeah huh......

We are square brother.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on June 22, 2020, 11:02:09 AM
Installed my new trans cooler over the weekend. I made it way harder than it should have been. Grr....However, trans temps dropped at a sustained 90 mph in 107 degree heat to 200 degrees. I am happy. Also it appears my trans was overfilled almost by 2.5 quarts.......I have a theory on this.

When my trans was replaced at 3k miles of break in I did the 5 out and 5 in. My trans dropped 7 quarts....I should have know. I put 7 back and and checked the level. At that point it was high, but not crazy.

Working on it this weekend I wanted see exactly where it was at. Ended up dropping 2.5 quarts before it was happy. Geez. So yeah.

I also in a hast to get to breakfast closed the hood on a quart of trans fluid that I had placed in the engine bay.......that caused a mess and a mini panic attack....I am an idiot.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: Macgyver on June 22, 2020, 11:32:30 PM
Oh No. That quart must have made a mess. Glad nothing broke.

Where did you hook the cooler up to ?
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on June 23, 2020, 12:01:34 AM
Quote from: Macgyver on June 22, 2020, 11:32:30 PM
Oh No. That quart must have made a mess. Glad nothing broke.

Where did you hook the cooler up to ?

It was interesting to say the least.  I just used my stock PP lines and used the AN fittings to adapt the smaller line for the trans cooler.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 802SHO on June 24, 2020, 07:11:27 AM
Clean install...well it was clean until you dumped a quart of trans fluid over all of it!  Lol!  This is coming from me, who pumped my brakes and forgot my driver side caliper wasn't attached and pushed the pistons out!  Lol! 

A good self chuckle is all you can do!  I took some extensions for a ride on my wiper cowl also.  Heard a clunk hard turn ...then found those extensions...sigh of relief.

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Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on June 24, 2020, 10:11:02 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 24, 2020, 07:11:27 AM
Clean install...well it was clean until you dumped a quart of trans fluid over all of it!  Lol!  This is coming from me, who pumped my brakes and forgot my driver side caliper wasn't attached and pushed the pistons out!  Lol! 

A good self chuckle is all you can do!  I took some extensions for a ride on my wiper cowl also.  Heard a clunk hard turn ...then found those extensions...sigh of relief.

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Hahah it happens.  What can you do? 
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on July 07, 2020, 11:42:32 AM
I have some data from my last road trip with the new trans cooler.

I drove from Phoenix to Costa Mesa.  Roughly 360 miles. 

Okay! Hottest the ambient temp got was 109. Fastest I got up to 105 mph. I averaged 88 through AZ, and roughly 83 through CA. Hottest the trans got was 199.23 degrees. I would say that is a win for the upgraded cooler.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on July 07, 2020, 11:44:31 AM
On my return trip I averaged 88 mph through CA and 95 mph through AZ. Through Coachella (big long hill sections) in 113 degree weather my trans got to roughly 205 degrees. Ambient air temps never got below 109 degrees from Palm Springs all the way to Phoenix. After getting through the hills, it leveled off at 201 degrees. I will take those numbers all day.

All in all, good upgrade and I am happy with the results.  I can't wait to see what the temps look like in cooler weather.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: bpd1151 on July 08, 2020, 07:59:38 AM


Quote from: SM105K on July 07, 2020, 11:44:31 AM113 degree weather my trans got to roughly 205 degrees. Ambient air temps never got below 109 degrees from Palm Springs all the way to Phoenix. After getting through the hills, it leveled off at 201 degrees. I will take those numbers all day.

All in all, good upgrade and I am happy with the results.  I can't wait to see what the temps look like in cooler weather.

Funny to read the above, as I was just watching the morning news, concerned about the mid to upper 90's forecast here in CHI-raq, coupled with excessive humidity (dew points in the mid to upper 70's) and I noticed that Phoenix is set to have a high temp of 110.

Holy hell that's blistering!

Glad to hear your new and recently upgraded trans cooler is keeping those hot AF temps easily at bay.

Keep staying chill!

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Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on July 08, 2020, 10:07:50 AM
Quote from: bpd1151 on July 08, 2020, 07:59:38 AM


Quote from: SM105K on July 07, 2020, 11:44:31 AM113 degree weather my trans got to roughly 205 degrees. Ambient air temps never got below 109 degrees from Palm Springs all the way to Phoenix. After getting through the hills, it leveled off at 201 degrees. I will take those numbers all day.

All in all, good upgrade and I am happy with the results.  I can't wait to see what the temps look like in cooler weather.

Funny to read the above, as I was just watching the morning news, concerned about the mid to upper 90's forecast here in CHI-raq, coupled with excessive humidity (dew points in the mid to upper 70's) and I noticed that Phoenix is set to have a high temp of 110.

Holy hell that's blistering!

Glad to hear your new and recently upgraded trans cooler is keeping those hot AF temps easily at bay.

Keep staying chill!

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But it is a dry heat!  LOL. 110 is warm but not too bad.  116+ is just straight annoying. 
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on July 10, 2020, 11:48:14 AM
Incoming Upgrade:

I have needed a HPFP for awhile now.  I have tried every way to justify spending the money for a XDi.  I have come close to purchasing one more times than I want to admit.  However, I couldn't pull the trigger. 

That being said.  I know I will catch some crap for my next statement.

I recently purchased a slightly used FS pump.  I weighed the pros and cons (they can attest to that) and for the price I couldn't pass on the opportunity presented to me. 

What I took into account:

Yearly mileage of my SHO: Less then 4k a year (if that).  I don't daily my SHO.
Mods:  I have all of the supporting mods (minus turbos).
Single Fuel Source: I should be able to run straight E54 out of the pump.  No more mixing, just testing.
Fuel Pressure:  I won't have to worry about FP drops anymore (my stock HPFP recovers well).  I still have boost issues, but this should basically allow me to pin the gates closed and let them eat. 


I have only seen one documented FS HPFP failure (not all facts have been presented yet) and one with XDI.  I know there are a couple of 11 second SHO's on the FS HPFP as well. 

I will be removing my stock HPFP and vacuum sealing it.  It will make its new home in the trunk with the exact tools needed to change it out.  When I go on long road trips I will swap back in the stock HPFP and change tunes.  When I get to my destination, the FS HPFP will go back and I will reflash the tune. Then the GAP band tour will begin.

I will modify the foam and engine cover as well.  If I cant see it, then it isn't there?  Correct? 


Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 4sfed on July 10, 2020, 12:46:32 PM
Okay, sorry...I don't have my decoder ring; what or who is "FS"?
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on July 10, 2020, 12:58:10 PM
Quote from: 4sfed on July 10, 2020, 12:46:32 PM
Okay, sorry...I don't have my decoder ring; what or who is "FS"?

It is the Firestorm HPFP from LMS. I just don't want to type LMS.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: 4sfed on July 10, 2020, 01:09:09 PM
Quote from: SM105K on July 10, 2020, 12:58:10 PM
It is the Firestorm HPFP from LMS. I just don't want to type LMS.

LOL  OH!  Sorry....we can strike my question from the record. :)
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on July 10, 2020, 01:29:36 PM
Quote from: 4sfed on July 10, 2020, 01:09:09 PM
Quote from: SM105K on July 10, 2020, 12:58:10 PM
It is the Firestorm HPFP from LMS. I just don't want to type LMS.

LOL  OH!  Sorry....we can strike my question from the record. :)

Its all good buddy.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: SM105K on September 18, 2020, 12:00:36 PM
I ventured into Intercooler cooling lol.  Bought this off Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/Front-Windsh...sher+nozzle+3w7z17603aa&qid=1600441530&sr=8-4 (https://www.amazon.com/Front-Windshield-Washer-Nozzles-2004-2013/dp/B07SJRX96V/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=ford+windshield+washer+nozzle+3w7z17603aa&qid=1600441530&sr=8-4)I disconnected the washer line at the junction near the shock tower. I ran the new line in the same path as my UPR CC line. Routed it to the front and used the motor to drain all of the wind shield washer fluid out of it. This is where I ran into my first issue. When you depress the fluid button the damn windshield wipers start moving. That is no good. So I pulled the relay for the wipers hoping it wouldn't kill the pump too....it did. Damn it.

So I made the executive decision. Who needs wipers if you just keep going fast? Haha! Wiper removal was easy. Take off the 15 mm nut holding them them on. I used PB blaster first so it helped getting the wipers off the splined mounting rod. I threw the wipers in the trunk and I have a small tool kit in there as well in case I have to throw them on quickly. I rarely drive my SHO in crappy weather so I am not worried.

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I mounted the fan pattern sprayers onto my trans cooler mounts. They spray directly down between the condenser and the IC. Both of them almost spray the whole intercooler. When deployed the water gets pulled into the IC and then has to pass through the radiator before getting to the fans. I had my GF hold the button and I watched and made adjustments. Hardly any water except a very fine mist made it past the fans.

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I loaded the windshield washer with a bunch of ice water and proceeded to do some basic testing. It was 93 degrees ambient and I got the car good and heat soaked. First pull IAT's started at 145 and dropped to 132 without using the sprayer. Next pass I pre-sprayed and soaked the IC with ice water at a stand still. Then I lauched. I wanted to see if any water would effect any aspect of the launch. IAT's started at 145 but quickly dropped to 118. So the ice water netted me a drop in 14 degrees. For reference on a stock tune every 10 degrees over 100 degrees the computer pulls 1 degree of timing. So I feel this could be a quick mod for the stock IC guys wanting a bit more cooling.

I will still need to datalog the runs. I left my computer at home. I will check to see the difference in temp after IC and temp at the top map sensor with and with out spraying the IC. I know we get hot in the intake because of the coolant pipe and engine. So I may have to yank the intake and heat wrap that pipe. I since the intake will be off, I might as well inspect the valves and walnut blast them it I have too.14 dollars for 14 degrees? Worth it in my book.I still have that CO2 chiller bar to install as well. Hopefully I can water log the IC and use the CO2 to freeze the cooler.
Title: Re: SM105K's Ownership/Performance/Maintenance Thread
Post by: Macgyver on September 19, 2020, 06:05:27 PM
For track days. I didnt think they allowed any water "Dripping" on the track ?
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