Looking to get some input on tires. Getting to be about time to replace the Michelin Primacy all seasons that came on my car. I absolutely love the Michelin Pilot Super Sports that I had on my last car, but holy hell they are expensive for our sizes. I cant swing $1200 for tires. What are some good alternatives to the Super Sports? Looking for a summer tire with good dry/wet traction and low noise. Do not care about snow/ice whatsoever, as I live in central Florida.
Lots of tires out there. You will spend less $$$ and get 90% of the Michelin's qualities.
I would start with reviews on tirerack.com. usually consistent with my experience. Mavis tire, discount tire are other sources.
I think you would find the Continental DWS06 pretty good despite being all seasons. Also the BFG Comp 2. Tread life usually is why Michelin costs so much, so be sure to keep that in mind.
I usually get tires at Costco, and they do carry the Sport Comp 2... For about $400 cheaper than the Pilot Super Sports. I've heard that they are loud though. Which makes me wary since these cars in particular are crazy about sounds coming through the suspension or floor. For real I was next to a Harley at a light and I could feel the exhaust pulses through the floor of my car. Everything else is very well insulated, but damn... the floor and suspension, not so much.
I have been reading a lot of reviews on tires. I just wanted to get some input from folks running the same platform as me, who have personal experience. I trust you jokers a lot more than I trust the people who post I tirerack.
For a dedicated summer, I'm going with the Firestone Firehawk Indy 500.
Surprisingly good reviews.
Allegedly very light and very sticky.
https://www.firestonetire.com/discover/summer (https://www.firestonetire.com/discover/summer)
You will want two things as you have stated. Quiet and good wet traction. Keep those in mind.
I just went from the Primacy to Contiental Extreme Contact Sports (All summers) in 275/40 r20s. Had them on for 2 weeks before switching over to my snow wheels. They gripped better (even being 50 out at the time), much smoother, they are quite and look great. I got them form Tirerack for $600 shipped but thats the special price ;)
Consider the Conti DW which is the summer tire (DWS is the all season as SHOdded mentioned). I had them on my STS-V, they handled very well, good ride, reasonable noise. Also had good hold in wet which was a important factor here in WA.
I was thinking Comp2 when my SHO gets to that point, but I think SBS has them and has not been impressed (course he has a AJP meth tune, not sure any tire can really handle that sort of abuse well!)
Ran the Firestone Indy 500 tires this year. I was very impressed with them. Highly recommend them. First summer tires I have bought and priced reasonably.
I ran the sport comp 2s, on my AMRs when I had the SHO, and I loved them. Pretty decent grip for an A/S, and could handle any condition thrown at em.
275/40ZR-20 Pirelli P Zero's - STICK LIKE GLUE
I got them on sale @ Tire Rack on a close out, 2 Years @ Like 115.00 A piece
Keep Looking for the Deals till the end of the year,
I needed some Goodyear RS-A 245/55 18's for the 2013 PI,
found them on Ebay Today for 110.00 EA Delivered ;D
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on December 11, 2017, 08:35:02 PM
For a dedicated summer, I'm going with the Firestone Firehawk Indy 500.
Surprisingly good reviews.
Allegedly very light and very sticky.
https://www.firestonetire.com/discover/summer (https://www.firestonetire.com/discover/summer)
I agree. I did a lot of research before I bought mine. Reviews are good, price is right and I couldn't be happier with mine.
Quote from: Joeyfuzz911 on December 12, 2017, 09:59:18 PM
I just went from the Primacy to Contiental Extreme Contact Sports (All summers). I got them form Tirerack for $600 shipped but thats the special price ;)
How does one go about getting this special price?...
Quote from: lamrith on December 13, 2017, 11:31:47 AM
Consider the Conti DW which is the summer tire (DWS is the all season as SHOdded mentioned). I had them on my STS-V, they handled very well, good ride, reasonable noise. Also had good hold in wet which was a important factor here in WA.
I was thinking Comp2 when my SHO gets to that point, but I think SBS has them and has not been impressed (course he has a AJP meth tune, not sure any tire can really handle that sort of abuse well!)
I'm not 100% sure, but I believe they split the DW into the "ExtremeContact Sport" for summer and DWS for all season. As for the Sport Comp 2, they seem great for the price, but are a tier below the ExtremeContact Sport. I think Continental positioning the ECS to compete with the Michelin Pilot Super Sport. I think I saw a website that listed both as "Max Performance" while the Comp 2 is "Ultra Performance" or whatever ridiculous marketing term.
Quote from: Agentlongwood on December 13, 2017, 04:18:53 PM
Quote from: lamrith on December 13, 2017, 11:31:47 AM
Consider the Conti DW which is the summer tire (DWS is the all season as SHOdded mentioned). I had them on my STS-V, they handled very well, good ride, reasonable noise. Also had good hold in wet which was a important factor here in WA.
I was thinking Comp2 when my SHO gets to that point, but I think SBS has them and has not been impressed (course he has a AJP meth tune, not sure any tire can really handle that sort of abuse well!)
I'm not 100% sure, but I believe they split the DW into the "ExtremeContact Sport" for summer and DWS for all season. As for the Sport Comp 2, they seem great for the price, but are a tier below the ExtremeContact Sport. I think Continental positioning the ECS to compete with the Michelin Pilot Super Sport. I think I saw a website that listed both as "Max Performance" while the Comp 2 is "Ultra Performance" or whatever ridiculous marketing term.
That could very well be, and honestly it is a smart move on their part unlike the naming they used on the tired before
DW, DWS.. That is the reason I clarified in my post I was talking summer only. I have seen a number of forums where someone is recommending the summer "DW's" (meaning DW in plural as a set) But people read it as the all season tire... :oops:
Changing the name to "Extreme contact sport" is a good move.
I purchased a set of Conti DW extreme contact summer tires from www.discounttire.com (http://www.discounttire.com) a while back in the winter under closeout pricing!
Excellent overall tire with exceptional grip in dry and wet conditions!
Its probably the best time to purchase a set of summer tires in the winter @ cost IMO. Z :)
(https://i.imgur.com/jqxKgzMh.jpg)
Quote from: ZSHO on December 13, 2017, 05:03:36 PM
I purchased a set of Conti DW extreme contact summer tires from www.discounttire.com (http://www.discounttire.com) a while back in the winter under closeout pricing!
Excellent overall tire with exceptional grip in dry and wet conditions!
Its probably the best time to purchase a set of summer tires in the winter @ cost IMO. Z :)
(https://i.imgur.com/jqxKgzMh.jpg)
Are those Contientals summer or all seasons? If they are the summers they must be contientals old version because the Contiental Extreme Contact Sports I got are their newest model. Probably pretty similiar but I though the DW's were all seasons?
Quote from: Agentlongwood on December 13, 2017, 04:05:48 PM
Quote from: Joeyfuzz911 on December 12, 2017, 09:59:18 PM
I just went from the Primacy to Contiental Extreme Contact Sports (All summers). I got them form Tirerack for $600 shipped but thats the special price ;)
How does one go about getting this special price?...
I have a friend that works for Continental and got to use his employee discount. I couldnt pass it up with the discount I was getting.
Quote from: Joeyfuzz911 on December 13, 2017, 07:18:16 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on December 13, 2017, 05:03:36 PM
I purchased a set of Conti DW extreme contact summer tires from www.discounttire.com (http://www.discounttire.com) a while back in the winter under closeout pricing!
Excellent overall tire with exceptional grip in dry and wet conditions!
Its probably the best time to purchase a set of summer tires in the winter @ cost IMO. Z :)
(https://i.imgur.com/jqxKgzMh.jpg)
Are those Contientals summer or all seasons? If they are the summers they must be contientals old version because the Contiental Extreme Contact Sports I got are their newest model. Probably pretty similiar but I though the DW's were all seasons?
Correct they are the older version Conti DW Summer tires which were on clearance for a total of $420.00 for a set of four! Z
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Continental&tireModel=ExtremeContact+DW&partnum=445YR0ECDWXLOLD&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=Ford&autoYear=2013&autoModel=Taurus&autoModClar=SHO (https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Continental&tireModel=ExtremeContact+DW&partnum=445YR0ECDWXLOLD&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=Ford&autoYear=2013&autoModel=Taurus&autoModClar=SHO)
Are those Contientals summer or all seasons? If they are the summers they must be contientals old version because the Contiental Extreme Contact Sports I got are their newest model. Probably pretty similiar but I though the DW's were all seasons?
[/quote]Correct they are the older version Conti DW Summer tires which were on clearance for a total of $420.00 for a set of four! Z
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Continental&tireModel=ExtremeContact+DW&partnum=445YR0ECDWXLOLD&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=Ford&autoYear=2013&autoModel=Taurus&autoModClar=SHO (https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Continental&tireModel=ExtremeContact+DW&partnum=445YR0ECDWXLOLD&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=Ford&autoYear=2013&autoModel=Taurus&autoModClar=SHO)
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Oh nice! I didnt see those in 275/40 r20s on Tirerack or Tire buyer. The sports were 1 of 3 with them being the most of expensive. The others were the Firestone Firehawks and Nitto NT555 G2's. Then my buddy told me he could get me a huge discount on Contientals so he gave me his employee info and I got them off Tirerack for $600 shipped. Saved $400 so I couldnt beat that. Those DW's look good though! Kind of in between of all season and summers from the deep tread it has.
I've had a few sets (going on 80k miles). There is 1 question though: what size? Might be a moot point if someone suggests a tire that is not available in your size.
We're lucky that the 20" tire size is the exact same as almost every large performance car (Camaro, Challenger, Charger, etc), so there is a plethora. I'm on my 4th set:
1. Eagle F1 Supercars: good at first. Not anything to call home about. Harder than most, but overall decent. Lasted about 20k miles.
2. Cooper Zeon RS-3S: Great tire. Excellent grip, very little noise and lasted about 25k miles. When I first got them (early 2013) they were in the $130 range, now they are over $200. Quite ridiculous if you ask me.
3. GoldwinsomechinesecrapIboughtinabind: absolute crap. Noisy, went against my own preaching of not skimping on tires. No grip.
4. Pirelli P-Zero: Good grip, quiet, awful treadwear. I rotate at 5k with my oil changes. Front tires are nearly 1/2 gone. I'll be lucky to get 10k from these before they are useless in the rain...not optimal in the panhandle of FL.
If I could do it again, I would get the Coopers. I got the Pirelli's on sale this summer for about $170 per installed, so I had to do it. Right now, looks like it was not worth it.
If you know of a place to install them, I would go with discount tire direct. They usually have some deals going on and if you get their little credit card, it'll save you even more (usually in the form of a Visa Gift Card).
Go Cooper!
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Good topic. I just scored some craiglist summer tires w/ 50 miles on them for $110 each: Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar 245/45/20
"good at first" - timbo
Has anyone tried Nitto tires? It seems the Mustang guys think they hook very well - much better than P zeros. I realize Mustangs and SHOs are entirely different animals but I was just wondering if anyone had ever tried these.
https://www.nittotire.com/passenger-tires/nt555-g2-ultra-high-performance-tire/ (https://www.nittotire.com/passenger-tires/nt555-g2-ultra-high-performance-tire/)
I run Nitto NT05 in the warmer month (this is a 200 treadwear tire that sticks good) this tire is noisy compared to a normal road tire due to the tread design so just be aware of that. In the colder months and on trips I run Nitto Invo (this is a 260 treadwear tire that rides nice is not noisy and also you can cross rotate tires since they are not directional).
I really had good luck and loved the gmax 03 on my G8 gt rwd, so I was going to do the Gmax 05, then I got the ok from the wife to go summers.....I think i will do 245 45 20 with the new GMAX RS summer tire, word is they are awesome. Walmart online 135 shipped for the 245, 360 AA A
http://www.hotrod.com/articles/game-changer-new-g-max-uhp-breaks-pricegrip-barrier/ (http://www.hotrod.com/articles/game-changer-new-g-max-uhp-breaks-pricegrip-barrier/)
Also found a 70 dollar rebate on 4 generals until 4-15-18, form on general site
Gmax rs summers very light tire also picked by Saleen for his mustangs. Price is right. I really liked the Cooper Zeon a/s, the stuck like summers and lasted forever. Local mustang club runs the Cooper Zeon summers....
Quote from: Macgyver on December 11, 2017, 05:18:04 PM
Lots of tires out there. You will spend less $$$ and get 90% of the Michelin's qualities.
My experience is that both Michelin quality and customer service is terrible. My Primacy tires were cracked on the side walls and suffered tread separation at less than 10K miles. Michelin acknowledged that there were defective tires and my batch number was the defective ones, still neither Michelin or the local Michelin dealer would do anything to warranty the tires. When complaining to Michelin they totally blew me off. So the tires had to be replaced at 26K miles. I would NEVER recommend a Michelin product or purchase another Michelin product. They have been the worst auto related company I have ever had experience with when it came to warranty issues.
Replaced my tires with General G-Max and have been very happy with them. They are wearing great and head and shoulders better tires than the Michelins.
Quote from: mjhpadi on April 10, 2018, 01:31:14 AM
Quote from: Macgyver on December 11, 2017, 05:18:04 PM
Lots of tires out there. You will spend less $$$ and get 90% of the Michelin's qualities.
My experience is that both Michelin quality and customer service is terrible. My Primacy tires were cracked on the side walls and suffered tread separation at less than 10K miles. Michelin acknowledged that there were defective tires and my batch number was the defective ones, still neither Michelin or the local Michelin dealer would do anything to warranty the tires. When complaining to Michelin they totally blew me off. So the tires had to be replaced at 26K miles. I would NEVER recommend a Michelin product or purchase another Michelin product. They have been the worst auto related company I have ever had experience with when it came to warranty issues.
Replaced my tires with General G-Max and have been very happy with them. They are wearing great and head and shoulders better tires than the Michelins.
I'm no fan of Michelin either. The last Michelins I bought for my 2012 Jetta were 80,000 mile tires. They were almost bald at 40,000 something miles and all I got from Michelin was the runaround trying to get my prorated warranty money. It seems that you have to have proper documentation you see to prove you rotated them as per their guidelines even when they wear out at around HALF of the warranted mile rating and all four are worn out evenly. I was told they'd be great in the snow and they were some of the worst tires I've ever had in snow and nothing else about them impressed me either.
I recall a time when Michelin was claiming products like Armor-All were a contributing cause to premature tire wear.
I found that laughable myself. But then again, I'm no chemical analyst by any means, so who knows.
I wasn't happy with my Primacy's either, and like Mark, I'll steer very clear from any Michelin products.
I would recommend the Eagle F1 Supercar tire, it has a really nice feel and hooks very well in the warmer months, i have them on my own car and other employees have use them with the sho and love them
Too late. Already outfitted the SHO with a set of nifty NITTO's.
But maybe others who are looking for new shoes will try out those F1's.
Nittos nice what model? Do you like them?
Quote from: Skydogs on April 10, 2018, 06:04:58 PM
Nittos nice what model? Do you like them?
NT555 G2's.
Initial impressions.... A++++.
I need more time/mileage with them though as they're less than 2 weeks old.
Quote from: bpd1151 on April 10, 2018, 08:10:32 PM
Quote from: Skydogs on April 10, 2018, 06:04:58 PM
Nittos nice what model? Do you like them?
NT555 G2's.
Initial impressions.... A++++.
I need more time/mileage with them though as they're less than 2 weeks old.
That is awesome we just put a set on a Corvette today! Lol What size did you go with? You have factory walls?
Thank you I might try a set :) :)
For the fronts..... 255/45 ZR20's.
For the rears..... 275/40 ZR20's.
Sorry darn spell check... Do you have factory wheels?
Thank you man!!!
Quote from: Skydogs on April 10, 2018, 11:46:57 PM
Sorry darn spell check... Do you have factory wheels?
Thank you man!!!
Nope. TSW Nurburgring's. PC'd gloss black. Staggered setup.
20x8.5's up front. 20x10's in the rear.
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Wow sick very very nice man!!
Thank you