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Title: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: Jordan on April 09, 2019, 08:29:16 PM
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Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: 18SHO on April 09, 2019, 08:32:49 PM
Quote from: Jordan on April 09, 2019, 08:29:16 PM
This right here is one of my absolute favorite mods. Originally my 1-2 shift was so harsh that I would lose traction. These mounts have completely changed the way the car feels when accelerating. The shifts are firm and direct and normal day to day driving isn't harsh like solid mounts on other cars. If I could had done this mod right out the gate I would had.

I originally purchased the gen 1 mounts he came out with last year and saw recently that he had revised and updated and contacted him about the newest revision he had. Well here they are! This is compared to the generation 1 mounts he made.

(https://i.imgur.com/EFOc2Zn.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/A3tUuqW.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/s59tsir.jpg)

Now with grease fittings and a nice powder coat on it! Awesome little add ons from the originals. For being about two hundred bucks I can't recommend these things enough to anybody who wants to just make their car a bit more refined, increase launch traction, firm up those shifts and rip it down the road. (last part up to you)

You can contact the man who makes these on facebook or at tonyuep@aol.com. His name is Anthony DiCunzolo
(https://i.imgur.com/S6ETimP.jpg)
Added his fb photo so you can find him easier, let him know Jordan sent you.


Awesome , how's the NVH compared to gen 1 any different?
Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: Jordan on April 09, 2019, 08:37:31 PM
I'll report back once I have a good bit of seat time on them and they are broken in!
Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: Jordan on April 09, 2019, 08:51:50 PM
Editted to show why the stock mounts are straight garbage! Crazy how much play those things have in them!!!
Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: 18SHO on April 09, 2019, 08:57:54 PM
Quote from: Jordan on April 09, 2019, 08:37:31 PM
I'll report back once I have a good bit of seat time on them and they are broken in!

Nice! I'm on the list for mine . I emailed anthony and when they are back in stock I'm pulling the trigger on them. Anything to cut some quarter mile time is a win win for me
Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: Jordan on April 09, 2019, 08:59:48 PM
Quote from: 18SHO on April 09, 2019, 08:57:54 PM
Quote from: Jordan on April 09, 2019, 08:37:31 PM
I'll report back once I have a good bit of seat time on them and they are broken in!

Nice! I'm on the list for mine . I emailed anthony and when they are back in stock I'm pulling the trigger on them. Anything to cut some quarter mile time is a win win for me

Absolutely agree and the price point is not bad at all considering the benefits. Really the best bang for buck physical mod you can do.
Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: shoNoff on April 09, 2019, 10:25:50 PM
I just emailed him myself. Thanks for the info Jordan. I'm so tired of my dashboard feeling like it's going to fall off on a 1/2 shift at the track.
Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: Jordan on April 09, 2019, 10:50:47 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on April 09, 2019, 10:25:50 PM
I just emailed him myself. Thanks for the info Jordan. I'm so tired of my dashboard feeling like it's going to fall off on a 1/2 shift at the track.

Yeah that shutter really made me grit my teeth when I would do launches. Those stock mounts move so much it's really crazy. Just got out on a test drive on these new and improved ones and they feel smoother than the previous ones. Probably because of the greasing. Really a nice touch.
Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: StinkinLinkin13 on April 09, 2019, 11:26:10 PM
I put myself on that list as well... I'm not really expecting much but I do prefer less movement than the stock mounts provide. They almost seem useless... I am a little worried about the NVH but I can adapt if the pros out weigh the cons.
Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: SM105K on April 10, 2019, 09:11:43 AM
Looks like I will be pulling the trigger as well.
Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: shoNoff on April 10, 2019, 11:00:18 AM
Quote from: Jordan on April 09, 2019, 10:50:47 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on April 09, 2019, 10:25:50 PM
I just emailed him myself. Thanks for the info Jordan. I'm so tired of my dashboard feeling like it's going to fall off on a 1/2 shift at the track.

Yeah that shutter really made me grit my teeth when I would do launches. Those stock mounts move so much it's really crazy. Just got out on a test drive on these new and improved ones and they feel smoother than the previous ones. Probably because of the greasing. Really a nice touch.

I haven't heard back from him yet. I'm just being impatient as I just emailed him last night lol. I could always tell what kind of pass I was on by how hard the 1/2 shift was lol. Unless you want to sell me your version 1's  ;D
Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: Jordan on April 10, 2019, 12:21:54 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on April 10, 2019, 11:00:18 AM
Quote from: Jordan on April 09, 2019, 10:50:47 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on April 09, 2019, 10:25:50 PM
I just emailed him myself. Thanks for the info Jordan. I'm so tired of my dashboard feeling like it's going to fall off on a 1/2 shift at the track.

Yeah that shutter really made me grit my teeth when I would do launches. Those stock mounts move so much it's really crazy. Just got out on a test drive on these new and improved ones and they feel smoother than the previous ones. Probably because of the greasing. Really a nice touch.

I haven't heard back from him yet. I'm just being impatient as I just emailed him last night lol. I could always tell what kind of pass I was on by how hard the 1/2 shift was lol. Unless you want to sell me your version 1's  ;D

Haha! If I hadn't already offered them to my local buddy who has a sho I would have them up for grabs!
Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: shoNoff on April 10, 2019, 01:09:22 PM
Quote from: Jordan on April 10, 2019, 12:21:54 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on April 10, 2019, 11:00:18 AM
Quote from: Jordan on April 09, 2019, 10:50:47 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on April 09, 2019, 10:25:50 PM
I just emailed him myself. Thanks for the info Jordan. I'm so tired of my dashboard feeling like it's going to fall off on a 1/2 shift at the track.

Yeah that shutter really made me grit my teeth when I would do launches. Those stock mounts move so much it's really crazy. Just got out on a test drive on these new and improved ones and they feel smoother than the previous ones. Probably because of the greasing. Really a nice touch.

I haven't heard back from him yet. I'm just being impatient as I just emailed him last night lol. I could always tell what kind of pass I was on by how hard the 1/2 shift was lol. Unless you want to sell me your version 1's  ;D

Haha! If I hadn't already offered them to my local buddy who has a sho I would have them up for grabs!

He answered me a bit ago. I'll be on the list as well. Thanks for the info Jordan!
Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: ecoboostsho on April 10, 2019, 02:23:16 PM
Is this as easy as it looks?  Jack up the car and just unbolt them one at a time and replace?  No jacking of the actual engine/trans is required or anything?
Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: Jordan on April 10, 2019, 04:01:49 PM
Quote from: ecoboostsho on April 10, 2019, 02:23:16 PM
Is this as easy as it looks?  Jack up the car and just unbolt them one at a time and replace?  No jacking of the actual engine/trans is required or anything?

Just jack up the driver side of the car grab your 15mm wrench and get to going. No need to jack up the trans or anything else other than the car. One is a slight pain due to the downpipes but totally manageable. Second time around took me maybe 5 minutes of actual work with my impact. Zipped 3 of them off and did 1 by hand.
Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: 4sfed on April 10, 2019, 06:17:39 PM
I think I got his last set in stock late last week. Sorry, not sorry everyone. :D. VERY much looking forward to getting these installed!


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Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: ecoboostsho on April 10, 2019, 06:23:32 PM
Quote from: Jordan on April 10, 2019, 04:01:49 PM
Quote from: ecoboostsho on April 10, 2019, 02:23:16 PM
Is this as easy as it looks?  Jack up the car and just unbolt them one at a time and replace?  No jacking of the actual engine/trans is required or anything?

Just jack up the driver side of the car grab your 15mm wrench and get to going. No need to jack up the trans or anything else other than the car. One is a slight pain due to the downpipes but totally manageable. Second time around took me maybe 5 minutes of actual work with my impact. Zipped 3 of them off and did 1 by hand.
Awesome! Thanks!

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Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: shoNoff on April 10, 2019, 06:45:50 PM
Quote from: 4sfed on April 10, 2019, 06:17:39 PM
I think I got his last set in stock late last week. Sorry, not sorry everyone. :D. VERY much looking forward to getting these installed!


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I'd hate you if it didn't just snow here last night. Looks like another few weeks before track opens.
Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: 4sfed on April 12, 2019, 08:48:56 PM
Welp!  Got'em on!  Lots more NVH, but these are effectively solid mounts. Haven't had a chance to take a drive yet. I'm looking forward to the feel on the road...


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Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: 18SHO on April 12, 2019, 09:25:21 PM
Quote from: 4sfed on April 12, 2019, 08:48:56 PM
Welp!  Got'em on!  Lots more NVH, but these are effectively solid mounts. Haven't had a chance to take a drive yet. I'm looking forward to the feel on the road...


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A lot more NVH? Keep us updated
Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: 4sfed on April 12, 2019, 09:31:27 PM
Quote from: 18SHO on April 12, 2019, 09:25:21 PM
Quote from: 4sfed on April 12, 2019, 08:48:56 PM
Welp!  Got'em on!  Lots more NVH, but these are effectively solid mounts. Haven't had a chance to take a drive yet. I'm looking forward to the feel on the road...


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A lot more NVH? Keep us updated
Yeah, it is noticeable. I like it though, I definitely feel more connected to the drivetrain and the car in general.


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Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: SHOdded on April 13, 2019, 02:47:26 AM
Coilovers can be used to manage launch issues because of their adjustability.  But there are downsides in terms of cost, labor involved to install, difficulty of installation, AND the inevitable battle between comfort and performance in areas where roads are ROUGH.

Either way you look at it, a vehicle is manufactured with compromises, because it is trying to balance peformance, fuel economy, comfort, and safety.  You can tilt the %ages to your own liking, but there is always something that has to give :D
Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: MKS Tom on April 13, 2019, 04:03:45 AM
I will be getting these for my MKS.  I see the knock offs posted on the various Facebook groups already.  They look well below the quality of the original ones. 
Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: 4sfed on April 13, 2019, 05:16:28 PM
Okay, after driving it on city streets and the highway, my verdict is in...I LOVE THEM!

However if you're getting them, you should know that they do add NVH.  But if you close your eyes while the engine is running, from the inside of the car it sounds like a mustang with a quiet Magnaflow exhaust, except there's no drone on the highway.  I love it..AND it's actually no louder on the outside of the vehicle.  It has actually given me a heavier foot...

As for the "feel", again, they're fantastic!  I love the connection to the drivetrain.  If your engine has a miss, you'll most likely know it before you get a warning light.

Another thing I've noticed is that the car no longer rolls [what feels like] 2 or 3 inches after you take your foot off the brake in Park.  It's now more like 1 inch.

If you don't want NVH, these may not be for you....but I love mine!  Thanks Anthony!
Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: SHOdded on April 16, 2019, 10:53:08 AM
In case anyone is wondering, the front roll restrictor was eliminated starting sometime in the 2017 MY and the rear was stiffened to compensate.
https://shoforum.com/index.php?threads/torque-struts-am-i-completely-stupid.139205/#post-1508599
(https://shoforum.com/index.php?attachments/smartselect_20190415-204851_chrome-jpg.8942/)
Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: 18SHO on April 16, 2019, 06:49:48 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on April 16, 2019, 10:53:08 AM
In case anyone is wondering, the front roll restrictor was eliminated starting sometime in the 2017 MY and the rear was stiffened to compensate.
https://shoforum.com/index.php?threads/torque-struts-am-i-completely-stupid.139205/#post-1508599
(https://shoforum.com/index.php?attachments/smartselect_20190415-204851_chrome-jpg.8942/)

So if my car is a 2018 it came from the factory with a better mount setup? or just the rear mount compared to a front and rear?
Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: SHOdded on April 16, 2019, 07:25:52 PM
Better rear mount, and front one deleted.
Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: 18SHO on April 16, 2019, 08:57:52 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on April 16, 2019, 07:25:52 PM
Better rear mount, and front one deleted.

Wow ok thanks for the info
Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: Agentlongwood on April 17, 2019, 08:27:39 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on April 16, 2019, 07:25:52 PM
Better rear mount, and front one deleted.

So does that mean that if you were to use these upgraded mounts, you really only need the rear mount?  If the front one isn't actually needed, maybe it's just adding unnecessary NVH?  And running the upgraded rear alone, gets the benefits of the upgrade with a little less NVH.  Just spitballing here, lol
Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: ecoboostsho on April 17, 2019, 08:39:43 AM
Quote from: Agentlongwood on April 17, 2019, 08:27:39 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on April 16, 2019, 07:25:52 PM
Better rear mount, and front one deleted.

So does that mean that if you were to use these upgraded mounts, you really only need the rear mount?  If the front one isn't actually needed, maybe it's just adding unnecessary NVH?  And running the upgraded rear alone, gets the benefits of the upgrade with a little less NVH.  Just spitballing here, lol
I was wondering something similar however if you just do the newer rear mount and no front I think you will end up with the same situation as the 13-17? I would think you would want to run the new rear and KEEP the front mount in order to stiffen it up more then "stock". Or just go with the new mounts and call it good!

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Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: Agentlongwood on April 17, 2019, 02:29:54 PM
Quote from: ecoboostsho on April 17, 2019, 08:39:43 AM
if you just do the newer rear mount and no front I think you will end up with the same situation as the 13-17?

Huh?  Do you mean you'd be in the same situation as the 18+ model years?  Because after 2018 they have a better rear mount and no front.  So if you have say a 2014, if you ran this DiCunzolo Gen2 rear mount and no front, then you'd have basically the same set up as the 18+ cars.  Or am I going crazy and reading this wrong, lol...
Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: ecoboostsho on April 17, 2019, 03:04:36 PM
Quote from: Agentlongwood on April 17, 2019, 02:29:54 PM
Quote from: ecoboostsho on April 17, 2019, 08:39:43 AM
if you just do the newer rear mount and no front I think you will end up with the same situation as the 13-17?

Huh?  Do you mean you'd be in the same situation as the 18+ model years?  Because after 2018 they have a better rear mount and no front.  So if you have say a 2014, if you ran this DiCunzolo Gen2 rear mount and no front, then you'd have basically the same set up as the 18+ cars.  Or am I going crazy and reading this wrong, lol...
Okay sorry that was a little confusing. LOL  I was just wondering that if instead of going with the DiCunzolo mounts you could use the "upgraded" factory stronger rear mount AND keep the factory rubber front mount for additional stiffness.  It would be a sort of in between stock and full DiCunzolo poly mounts scenario if one was worried about the additional NVH from solid mounts.  It would only be an option for people that had a car with front mounts originally since they apparently disappeared from cars 18+...

I myself am probably going to go the DiCunzolo path as I would appreciate the direct drivetrain connection but I can imagine not everyone wants the added NVH of the solids...

Make any more sense?
Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: Agentlongwood on April 17, 2019, 03:45:40 PM
Ok yeah that makes sense, lol.  The other thing I was wondering is if you could use the DiCunzolo mounts, but swap out the poly bushings for some beefy rubber ones.  The way DiCunzolo's mounts are built, even a stout rubber bushing in them would probably have WAAAAYYYY less slop than the factory mounts, and maybe be a little less harsh than poly.
Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: SHOdded on April 17, 2019, 04:20:27 PM
And so the quest for level 1 and level 2 has begun.  LOL.
Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: Agentlongwood on April 17, 2019, 11:43:24 PM
I asked the man himself on facebook if he knew of other bushings that I could get that would fit his mount.  I was asking specifically about high durometer rubber.  Mr. Dicunzolo said he's actually tried a whole slew of different types of bushings and found polyurethane was best all around.  He said the NVH is noticeably more significant at first, but that it tends to die down a bit after driving on them for a while.
Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: avidmotion on May 05, 2019, 08:56:28 PM
.....what is NVH.
Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: ecoboostsho on May 05, 2019, 09:05:11 PM
Quote from: avidmotion on May 05, 2019, 08:56:28 PM
.....what is NVH.
Noise, vibration, harshness! I just ordered these myself. He's super responsive.

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Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: 4sfed on May 05, 2019, 09:07:43 PM
Quote from: Agentlongwood on April 17, 2019, 11:43:24 PM
...He said the NVH is noticeably more significant at first, but that it tends to die down a bit after driving on them for a while.

Yep!  I've got about 1000 miles on them now, and the NVH is noticably diminished.  However not gone. I still feel a great connection to the drivetrain.


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Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: Ramairetransam on May 10, 2019, 09:52:14 AM
i still want to try just the rear decunzo (sp) rear mount and no front , lower the price and see how it is.
Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: ecoboostsho on May 10, 2019, 10:56:49 PM
Just installed these and it was pretty easy to do. You can feel the vibration in the steering wheel the most but I kind of like it. Haven't had a chance to go for a test drive but will first thing tomorrow.  Top notch quality!

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Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: shoNoff on May 11, 2019, 12:56:48 PM
Got mine in on Thursday. Ive only driven the car twice since. I noticed a little bit of NVH but nothing I cant deal with. Its not nearly as bad as some other cars Ive done this to in the past. I'll report more on Monday after I take a long ride tomorrow.
Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: Moisme33 on September 07, 2019, 11:37:20 PM
So has anyone installed the DiCunzalo V2 rear mount and left the stocker on the front in the 2010-2017 SHO yet? If so, how is the NVH with that set-up? Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: MKS Tom on September 08, 2019, 01:08:04 AM
I am concerned about the NVH as a daily, but I will get them before I track it next year.  Anthony is an extremely nice guy.  I am probably overthinking the NVH in general as a daily too, but I will find that out once I get them. 
Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: SHOdded on September 08, 2019, 06:39:07 AM
Since there is a change in NVH from changing the mount, it should theroretically be possible to rebalance the engine/transmission to accommodate the new mounts to a better precision for less movement/noise.  Very much the same idea as wheel weights :)  Instead of blueprinting the powertrain, make a few simple & replicable changes to the casing (non-permanent).

IDK if anyone has done it yet, but I am sure in racing applications they might have.  Anyone looked into this?
Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: GhostlyGrenade on September 08, 2019, 06:57:12 AM
Whenever you change the materials used for suspension or motor mounts/trans mounts you will change the harshness levels. I remember changing A arm bushings and end links and it substantially increased NVH to the point of uncomfortable daily but great for racing. Sacrifices are made with parts like this, especially when companies like ford spend thousands in engineering vs aftermarket/homemade spending almost zero. The 18/19 mount is a huge upgrade from the previous one. And it's only 40$ or so. But it isn't perfect, so there is still some room for improvement. It doesn't add any NVH though, so it still feels and sounds like a luxury car.
Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: Macgyver on September 08, 2019, 12:47:09 PM
Yeah its not gonna happen imho.

Watch the video. Same thing on the SHO I am sure even tho its an Automatic.

https://youtu.be/w6gXkJzJVTQ
Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: SHOdded on September 08, 2019, 06:46:16 PM
Are Ford OEM mounts THAT bad?
Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: MKS Tom on September 08, 2019, 10:07:43 PM
I have two sources I could reach out to in the Subaru community to make motor mounts for us, but talking to several people about it I feel that would for sure cause too much NVH and false knock. 
Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: Macgyver on September 09, 2019, 11:06:09 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on September 08, 2019, 06:46:16 PM
Are Ford OEM mounts THAT bad?

Someone with a GoPro can video it ?
Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: avidmotion on September 13, 2019, 12:20:09 AM
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Title: Re: DiCunzolo GEN2 Upgraded Trans Mount Review!
Post by: jus2quik on November 07, 2019, 07:20:58 PM
Installed the rear mount on my 18 ,no idea what "nvh" is ,maybe noise vibration and harmonics? But I like it ,feels planted and more responsive
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