So Purchased this from: Hebron Auto parts for 117.00 Approx and Low and Behold:
https://www.amazon.com/aFe-Power-Silver-46-33018-Throttle/dp/B00R6PQ1MS (https://www.amazon.com/aFe-Power-Silver-46-33018-Throttle/dp/B00R6PQ1MS)
Never fails One week later and 23% less, Yea it figures, ANYWAY
"Complete kit for the Explorer Sport and SHO 3.5L" 2011 thru 2
SO maybe 10 thru 16.???
Tools You Need to install, Strait Screwdriver, Socket Driver, Short to med Extension,
8MM Socket (for Bolt Removal) and 10 MM (for New bolt Install). Remove Engine Cover
1) Loosen the Clamp on the Intercooler Tube (next to the throttle Body)
2) Remove the Electrical Connector for the Map Sensor, Push Tube out of your way
3) Remove the Clip from the Noise Maker, Be Careful not to let it Spring off
otherwise you are hunting the thing, Un clip and Remove the Noise maker and stow
4) Loosen almost all the way, the Four (4) existing Bolts and Lock washers that hold the
throttle Body onto the Inlet manifold. Remove the lower two (2) First, then the upper ones.
5) Install the Silver Bullet (with the O Ring Facing You) Between the Throttle Body & manifold
6) Install and SNUG New Longer Bolts, Locks and Flat washers, Upper ones First then Lower Ones
7) Alternating One (1) upper, then opposing Lower One (1), Repeat and Tighten all Four bolts
8) Re-install Intercooler Tube, Noise Maker, and Electrical Connector for map Sensor
Easy Stuff ;D
Trying to break the transmission again? :D
What is this product "claimed" to do exactly?
Will you kindly report your experiences post-install?
TIA. :cheers:
Quote from: bpd1151 on August 09, 2018, 03:13:01 PM
What is this product "claimed" to do exactly?
Will you kindly report your experiences post-install?
TIA. :cheers:
AFe "claims" +10HP and +14lbs TQ. From my heavy research on these, it looks like independent people have dyno tested them, and the results are lower than manufacturer claims, BUT aren't total snake oil. Average TQ gains looked to be about 7-14, but HP gains were typically nominal at 3-5HP. TORQUE, however, is our true friend, so $90 for 7-14TQ, when you're running out of mods to do, isn't too terrible of a trade off. The BIGGEST thing that the dyno results were showing though, is that these gains were recognized throughout the ENTIRE POWER BAND, which is actually kinda cool. So, while they don't work miracles by any means, if you're looking for a *little* bit extra, and have $90-$100 burning a hole in your pocket, they're worth a buy, IMO.
Its a 1 inch tunnel ram adapter ... i love that 50's tech is still relevant :)
I find it hard to believe that this makes the air more turbulent than the twins without impeding airflow
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I've had mine installed for quite some time and I really do feel the difference. For such a simple install and low price, its worth it.
It is not the turbulence this is good old fluid dynamics at work. Longer intake tunnels up to the point of diminishing returns make more TQ by 'hammering' in more air.. essentially exploiting mass in motion dynamics.
This is why giant intake runners are normal on old school street rods. Some cars do not benefit. some more than others .. i question getting more then 10ftlbs from 1-2 inches .. but anything is possible.
I like these little add-ons, does it give you some advantage? In the midst of not being sure...does it hurt your performance? No. How many times do we spend money for a mere cosmetic enhancement on our vehicles?
With that said, I think if it won't hurt and you're just too fast and too curious....(couldnt resist saying that) try it out, for the price it's not bad.
I went with the cheaper econoaid airaid throttle body booster...its like $30. Claimed to spin the air post throttle body to increase fuel atomization and increase low rpm torque and response. Does it do all this? I'm not sure. Its made by a reputable company. No doubt if someone were to offer this along with their existing lineup of products, why would they if it were complete BS? Why put themselves in a position to go out of their way to offer/ expose an inferior product? Leads me to believe it probably actually does do what it says. BIGGEST reason I bought it was because I use methanol and if this $30 part can increase atomization of my meth, speculated to enhance mist for optimal displacement.
Curious George in me read the description for the econoaid throttle booster and while I was envisioning my meth spray getting utilized more efficiently....Curious George already had it in the cart and was at checkout....little bastard! Haha
Quote from: bpd1151 on August 09, 2018, 03:13:01 PM
What is this product "claimed" to do exactly?
Will you kindly report your experiences post-install?
TIA. :cheers:
If it Ever Stops Raining Out the Test and Tunes, I Will Report back for sure....
Quote from: SHOdded on August 09, 2018, 02:38:44 PM
Trying to break the transmission again? :D
Have Not wasted the Tanny Yet, Just the Motor.....! ;)
Quote from: irondoor19 on August 10, 2018, 03:13:27 PM
Quote from: bpd1151 on August 09, 2018, 03:13:01 PM
What is this product "claimed" to do exactly?
Will you kindly report your experiences post-install?
TIA. :cheers:
If it Ever Stops Raining Out the Test and Tunes, I Will Report back for sure....
what do I think:
So Seat of the Pants: Yes, Worth the Price of admission
However we also Did the Coils Not to Long ago,
MSD Coils: Noticed it Up Top and at the end of the Drag Strip
AFE Spacer: Give me till tomorrow (Test and Tune Tonight) for A Firmer yes...
Following.
Dam:
I can't tell from the numbers @ the Strip,
BUT By the seat of the Pants, YES
Highway Blast's up to WAY not legal Speeds: YES
Import Shoot Out this Sunday @ Trails, Will Try this again....!
Quote from: irondoor19 on August 23, 2018, 12:57:11 PM
Dam:
I can't tell from the numbers @ the Strip,
BUT By the seat of the Pants, YES
Highway Blast's up to WAY not legal Speeds: YES
Import Shoot Out this Sunday @ Trails, Will Try this again....!
Thanks for the affirmation. Like I was saying, for me, there was a SOTP difference but I had nothing to compare specific data against.
Would love to see a before and after dyno on the 3.5 Ecoboost with this... My gut screams snake oil...
Quote from: StealBlueSho on September 05, 2018, 10:27:15 AM
Would love to see a before and after dyno on the 3.5 Ecoboost with this... My gut screams snake oil...
I would agree.
Equivalent to that old school contraption called the "Tornado" that one would place into the intake piping to speed up, or cyclone the air.
Ha. Oh man, the things that have been fabricated over the years.
Aye yai yai **smh**
Quote from: bpd1151 on September 05, 2018, 10:36:03 AM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on September 05, 2018, 10:27:15 AM
Would love to see a before and after dyno on the 3.5 Ecoboost with this... My gut screams snake oil...
I would agree.
Equivalent to that old school contraption called the "Tornado" that one would place into the intake piping to speed up, or cyclone the air.
Ha. Oh man, the things that have been fabricated over the years.
Aye yai yai **smh**
Ahahahaha the tornado I remember all those commercials. I haven't heard of that product in years. Once I get the car a little more dialed in on the new turbos I'll buy one and test it. My car usually runs within a .02 on back to back passes.
Still available!!!!
https://www.tornadoair.com/ (https://www.tornadoair.com/)
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/54431ed5e4b06e8b47ddd4d0/56304e21e4b074af2d05d7d9/56ccbb0dd51cd4885f681f1d/1456258002318/Product-Sized-2.jpg?format=1500w)
Quote from: StealBlueSho on September 05, 2018, 11:05:59 AM
Still available!!!!
https://www.tornadoair.com/ (https://www.tornadoair.com/)
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/54431ed5e4b06e8b47ddd4d0/56304e21e4b074af2d05d7d9/56ccbb0dd51cd4885f681f1d/1456258002318/Product-Sized-2.jpg?format=1500w)
Sweet Jesus.
Certainly that must be an updated version by now?
One of the "sharks" must be behind its' continued marketing ploys/investments.
Unreal.
Nice find SBS, seriously I love the marketing on it "Pays for itself" lol
My question is if those claims are true why would no manufacturer do said modification from the factory. Seems like a good way to up your power on your engines with little investment? That's why I will never get behind these sort of things. On naturally aspirated motors maybe, new age direct injection turbo charged engines? Not at all. Would like to see some incontestable proof.
well, the theory has some legs to it, that is why manufacturers have indeed implemented it, for quite some time now. One example is Ford's HSC (high swirl combustion) in the Tempo back in the 80's. It works. As for this particular device, it will at least chop up any pests clinging to the air box.
So will the product at the amazon link work with my '14 SHO? I had one on my 4.6 mustang and liked it. It may be a placebo thing but it worked for me. Amazon says the product linked up top won't work with my '14. Anyone have a link for one for mine?
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If someone that has this can do a before and after dyno, I will open my wallet to buy it, if it works.
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Quote from: StealBlueSho on September 05, 2018, 09:48:00 PM
If someone that has this can do a before and after dyno, I will open my wallet to buy it, if it works.
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I'm going to buy one and go to the track. I think my car is consistent enough to show results. These are my slips from the other night on the 93 tune.
Quote from: shoNoff on September 05, 2018, 10:01:18 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on September 05, 2018, 09:48:00 PM
If someone that has this can do a before and after dyno, I will open my wallet to buy it, if it works.
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I'm going to buy one and go to the track. I think my car is consistent enough to show results. These are my slips from the other night on the 93 tune.
I bet it does work. I have the Airaid Econaide throttle body booster and AJP absolutely loves the way my alky control sprays...the booster has been there since day one of logs but how could it NOT be affecting the meth spray?
Quote from: shoNoff on September 05, 2018, 10:01:18 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on September 05, 2018, 09:48:00 PM
If someone that has this can do a before and after dyno, I will open my wallet to buy it, if it works.
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I'm going to buy one and go to the track. I think my car is consistent enough to show results. These are my slips from the other night on the 93 tune.
Have you been able to determine anything specific with the spacer as of yet?
I haven't even ordered one yet. My local track is closed this weekend for a divisional race. It is also closed next thurs-sun for a county fair. So it will be a couple weeks before I can run on a Friday night. Wednesday nights are a waste on my time as they do zero track prep. Im going to try to make a couple back to back runs with and without the spacer. I don't think it will take me more then 10 mins to swap it out at the track.
Quote from: shoNoff on September 07, 2018, 01:18:50 PM
I haven't even ordered one yet. My local track is closed this weekend for a divisional race. It is also closed next thurs-sun for a county fair. So it will be a couple weeks before I can run on a Friday night. Wednesday nights are a waste on my time as they do zero track prep. Im going to try to make a couple back to back runs with and without the spacer. I don't think it will take me more then 10 mins to swap it out at the track.
Just be careful with that O ring...especially since you just found out you didn't have it originally! LOL
Quote from: djxfactor on August 09, 2018, 03:28:37 PM
Quote from: bpd1151 on August 09, 2018, 03:13:01 PM
What is this product "claimed" to do exactly?
Will you kindly report your experiences post-install?
TIA. :cheers:
AFe "claims" +10HP and +14lbs TQ. From my heavy research on these, it looks like independent people have dyno tested them, and the results are lower than manufacturer claims, BUT aren't total snake oil. Average TQ gains looked to be about 7-14, but HP gains were typically nominal at 3-5HP. TORQUE, however, is our true friend, so $90 for 7-14TQ, when you're running out of mods to do, isn't too terrible of a trade off. The BIGGEST thing that the dyno results were showing though, is that these gains were recognized throughout the ENTIRE POWER BAND, which is actually kinda cool. So, while they don't work miracles by any means, if you're looking for a *little* bit extra, and have $90-$100 burning a hole in your pocket, they're worth a buy, IMO.
Would this require a re-tune?
No but where are the dyno charts and 1/4 mile runs showing that these work.
Any updates. Part number for a 2013? I need some snake oil....
Caveat emptor! Z