Title: B1086- Air Distribution Damper Motor - Panel/floor/defrost not working
Post by: Gjkrisa on January 20, 2020, 07:38:07 PM
Post by: Gjkrisa on January 20, 2020, 07:38:07 PM
Hi so I took the car to the car wash where it's very humid I had turned on the AC to keep the windows from fogging but then the next day my blower motor was frozen from moving.
Put a heater on it then it started working again about three hours later when it's -30f. Next day it froze again after getting it very hot for an hour.
So I'm curious how do I get to the blower motor so I can wipe out the moisture.
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Put a heater on it then it started working again about three hours later when it's -30f. Next day it froze again after getting it very hot for an hour.
So I'm curious how do I get to the blower motor so I can wipe out the moisture.
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Title: Re: Blower motor removal?
Post by: SHOdded on January 20, 2020, 09:55:57 PM
Post by: SHOdded on January 20, 2020, 09:55:57 PM
If it is anything like the Edge, you drop the glovebox to get at it from underneath. Look up the MACTFORDEDGE channel on youtube.
https://youtu.be/UmlmDJf6xw8 (https://youtu.be/UmlmDJf6xw8)
http://www.nicksmustangranch.com/Service_Manuals/2014/2014_Taurus/Service%20Manual.htm (http://www.nicksmustangranch.com/Service_Manuals/2014/2014_Taurus/Service%20Manual.htm)
Procedure:
(https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10316.0;attach=22250;image)
https://youtu.be/UmlmDJf6xw8 (https://youtu.be/UmlmDJf6xw8)
http://www.nicksmustangranch.com/Service_Manuals/2014/2014_Taurus/Service%20Manual.htm (http://www.nicksmustangranch.com/Service_Manuals/2014/2014_Taurus/Service%20Manual.htm)
Procedure:
(https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10316.0;attach=22250;image)
Title: Re: Blower motor removal?
Post by: Gjkrisa on January 21, 2020, 11:36:50 AM
Post by: Gjkrisa on January 21, 2020, 11:36:50 AM
I hope it's that easy going to attempt it on lunch
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Title: Re: Blower motor removal?
Post by: SHOdded on January 21, 2020, 11:59:22 AM
Post by: SHOdded on January 21, 2020, 11:59:22 AM
Should be. Updated post above.
Title: Re: Blower motor removal?
Post by: Gjkrisa on January 21, 2020, 05:08:29 PM
Post by: Gjkrisa on January 21, 2020, 05:08:29 PM
Thank you I didn't check back before doing but I'd like to add that the rear left screw is reverse thread I tried for a few minutes the right way notice it didn't even budge tried the other way and it came loose
Here are the photos of the motor. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200121/45ee3fdd91e43b3338982039f58ce3a2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200121/e5249c231d7247c20cf8335117cfcf1c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200121/d66256eec1db0bcfd71942ef93a64489.jpg)
I had a heater on it the area was very warm w/ also auto started it for 30 minutes not sure if all that dried the water out but it was completely dry just can see the red soap or wax dried on there.
I left the panel off so if I need to replace it or give it a gentle kick to turn it back on it should be much easier.
The motor turned freely.
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You will need a 7mm and 8mm 7 first 3 then 8 for the motor.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200123/ab916abc43c9b2f3acd24aaa4fd0255d.jpg)
Here are the photos of the motor. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200121/45ee3fdd91e43b3338982039f58ce3a2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200121/e5249c231d7247c20cf8335117cfcf1c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200121/d66256eec1db0bcfd71942ef93a64489.jpg)
I had a heater on it the area was very warm w/ also auto started it for 30 minutes not sure if all that dried the water out but it was completely dry just can see the red soap or wax dried on there.
I left the panel off so if I need to replace it or give it a gentle kick to turn it back on it should be much easier.
The motor turned freely.
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You will need a 7mm and 8mm 7 first 3 then 8 for the motor.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200123/ab916abc43c9b2f3acd24aaa4fd0255d.jpg)
Title: Re: Blower motor removal?
Post by: SHOdded on January 21, 2020, 08:57:53 PM
Post by: SHOdded on January 21, 2020, 08:57:53 PM
I would have sprayed liberally with electronics parts cleaner to get it cleaned out, but not sure if it has exposed greaseable parts or not.
Fingers crossed, it's back in business.
Fingers crossed, it's back in business.
Title: Re: Blower motor removal?
Post by: Gjkrisa on January 21, 2020, 09:02:57 PM
Post by: Gjkrisa on January 21, 2020, 09:02:57 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on January 21, 2020, 08:57:53 PMYea didn't think about that I really want to.
I would have sprayed liberally with electronics parts cleaner to get it cleaned out, but not sure if it has exposed greaseable parts or not.
Fingers crossed, it's back in business.
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Title: Re: Blower motor removal?
Post by: ZSHO on January 22, 2020, 06:53:52 AM
Post by: ZSHO on January 22, 2020, 06:53:52 AM
It might be worth to also check the Blower Control Module Resistor if its not functional! [9L3Z19E624B].They work in accordance to each other.
Btw check the cabin air filter to verify it's not wet. Z
https://www.fordpartsgiant.com/parts/ford-control_9l3z-19e624-b.html?Vin=1FAHP2KT5DG183206&Filter=() (https://www.fordpartsgiant.com/parts/ford-control_9l3z-19e624-b.html?Vin=1FAHP2KT5DG183206&Filter=())
Btw check the cabin air filter to verify it's not wet. Z
https://www.fordpartsgiant.com/parts/ford-control_9l3z-19e624-b.html?Vin=1FAHP2KT5DG183206&Filter=() (https://www.fordpartsgiant.com/parts/ford-control_9l3z-19e624-b.html?Vin=1FAHP2KT5DG183206&Filter=())
Title: Re: Blower motor removal?
Post by: Gjkrisa on January 22, 2020, 11:36:23 AM
Post by: Gjkrisa on January 22, 2020, 11:36:23 AM
Quote from: ZSHO on January 22, 2020, 06:53:52 AMOh man your correct I should have first checked the cabin filter the first time it froze
It might be worth to also check the Blower Control Module Resistor if its not functional! [9L3Z19E624B].They work in accordance to each other.
Btw check the cabin filter to verify it's not wet. Z
https://www.fordpartsgiant.com/parts/ford-control_9l3z-19e624-b.html?Vin=1FAHP2KT5DG183206&Filter=() (https://www.fordpartsgiant.com/parts/ford-control_9l3z-19e624-b.html?Vin=1FAHP2KT5DG183206&Filter=())
Well it worked this morning.
I'll check the filter at lunch.
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Title: Re: Blower motor removal?
Post by: Gjkrisa on January 22, 2020, 04:49:53 PM
Post by: Gjkrisa on January 22, 2020, 04:49:53 PM
Well the filter had no signs of water in it completely dry
Does any one know of an easier was to get the filter cover off the left one has to many sharp edges in the area.
Maybe just use mechanic gloves.
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Does any one know of an easier was to get the filter cover off the left one has to many sharp edges in the area.
Maybe just use mechanic gloves.
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Title: Re: Blower motor removal?
Post by: ZSHO on January 22, 2020, 05:17:11 PM
Post by: ZSHO on January 22, 2020, 05:17:11 PM
Quote from: Gjkrisa on January 22, 2020, 04:49:53 PMGrab a pair of needle nose pliers and pull the bottom TAB UP and should pop off.
Well the filter had no signs of water in it completely dry
Does any one know of an easier was to get the filter cover off the left one has to many sharp edges in the area.
Maybe just use mechanic gloves.
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Alternative is using a mini flat head screw driver and insert it behind the TAB and PULL IT UP & outwards. Z
(https://i.imgur.com/XD1l84xh.jpg)
Title: Re: Blower motor removal?
Post by: Gjkrisa on February 05, 2020, 10:12:30 PM
Post by: Gjkrisa on February 05, 2020, 10:12:30 PM
Ok now the blend door isn't operating I thought that was frozen but won't work still when I had heat in the car for 8 hrs same as before
It did kinda show signs of going out I was messing with forscan and in the error codes said the motor circuit was closed but then restarted the car and everything was fine...
So I know I have seen at least one post on this but how would I diagnosis this issue or do is there one main motor to replace for the blend doors?
Right now I believe it's just stuck on panel mode.
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It did kinda show signs of going out I was messing with forscan and in the error codes said the motor circuit was closed but then restarted the car and everything was fine...
So I know I have seen at least one post on this but how would I diagnosis this issue or do is there one main motor to replace for the blend doors?
Right now I believe it's just stuck on panel mode.
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Title: Re: Blower motor removal?
Post by: SHOdded on February 06, 2020, 01:05:01 AM
Post by: SHOdded on February 06, 2020, 01:05:01 AM
http://www.nicksmustangranch.com/Service_Manuals/2014/2014_Taurus/Resources/Service_Manual/sefc1024.htm (http://www.nicksmustangranch.com/Service_Manuals/2014/2014_Taurus/Resources/Service_Manual/sefc1024.htm)
If it is stuck as to where the air is directed, that is a mode door actuator issue. There is one mode door actuator for defrost/panel/floor as linked to above.
If it is stuck as to where the air is directed, that is a mode door actuator issue. There is one mode door actuator for defrost/panel/floor as linked to above.
Title: Re: Blower motor removal?
Post by: Gjkrisa on March 04, 2020, 03:08:27 PM
Post by: Gjkrisa on March 04, 2020, 03:08:27 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on February 06, 2020, 01:05:01 AMWould you know a part number for that? 2016
http://www.nicksmustangranch.com/Service_Manuals/2014/2014_Taurus/Resources/Service_Manual/sefc1024.htm (http://www.nicksmustangranch.com/Service_Manuals/2014/2014_Taurus/Resources/Service_Manual/sefc1024.htm)
If it is stuck as to where the air is directed, that is a mode door actuator issue. There is one mode door actuator for defrost/panel/floor as linked to above.
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Title: Re: Blower motor removal?
Post by: SHOdded on March 04, 2020, 05:33:45 PM
Post by: SHOdded on March 04, 2020, 05:33:45 PM
AA5Z-19E616-C
Motor Assy
Air Inlet Mode Door
Fit Note:
Dual Zone Auto Temperature Control A/C
Base Number: 19E616
Callout Name: 19E616C
$36.38 $22.81
https://www.rockauto.com/en/partsearch/?partnum=AA5Z-19E616-C (https://www.rockauto.com/en/partsearch/?partnum=AA5Z-19E616-C)
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=AA5Z-19E616-C&_sacat=0 (https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=AA5Z-19E616-C&_sacat=0)
Z can confirm, I am not 100% sure, but it does say mode door actuator, so am highly hopeful.
Motor Assy
Air Inlet Mode Door
Fit Note:
Dual Zone Auto Temperature Control A/C
Base Number: 19E616
Callout Name: 19E616C
$36.38 $22.81
https://www.rockauto.com/en/partsearch/?partnum=AA5Z-19E616-C (https://www.rockauto.com/en/partsearch/?partnum=AA5Z-19E616-C)
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=AA5Z-19E616-C&_sacat=0 (https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=AA5Z-19E616-C&_sacat=0)
Z can confirm, I am not 100% sure, but it does say mode door actuator, so am highly hopeful.
Title: Re: Blower motor removal?
Post by: ZSHO on March 04, 2020, 07:49:14 PM
Post by: ZSHO on March 04, 2020, 07:49:14 PM
That should be the correct part number AFAIK. Z :)
Motorcraft - Part # YH1779 (19E616)
Usage: Air Inlet Mode Door, 02/06/2012 - 03/01/2019, Taurus, Dual Zone Auto Temp Control A/C
Section: Heater/Air Cond.External Components
https://parts.ford.com/shop/en/us/climate-control/ac-repair-parts/motor-assy-7836065-1 (https://parts.ford.com/shop/en/us/climate-control/ac-repair-parts/motor-assy-7836065-1)
MOTORCRAFT YH1779
FORD- AA5Z19E616C- Heater Blend Door Actuator
https://www.rockauto.com/en/partsearch/?partnum=AA5Z19E616C (https://www.rockauto.com/en/partsearch/?partnum=AA5Z19E616C)
Motorcraft - Part # YH1779 (19E616)
Usage: Air Inlet Mode Door, 02/06/2012 - 03/01/2019, Taurus, Dual Zone Auto Temp Control A/C
Section: Heater/Air Cond.External Components
https://parts.ford.com/shop/en/us/climate-control/ac-repair-parts/motor-assy-7836065-1 (https://parts.ford.com/shop/en/us/climate-control/ac-repair-parts/motor-assy-7836065-1)
MOTORCRAFT YH1779
FORD- AA5Z19E616C- Heater Blend Door Actuator
https://www.rockauto.com/en/partsearch/?partnum=AA5Z19E616C (https://www.rockauto.com/en/partsearch/?partnum=AA5Z19E616C)
Title: Re: Blower motor removal?
Post by: Gjkrisa on March 07, 2020, 12:06:32 AM
Post by: Gjkrisa on March 07, 2020, 12:06:32 AM
Well don't think that was the issue. Here is the code I'm getting I should have thought to check fuses first but thought more would go out by one fuse but I'm sure I'm wrong so I'm going thru the book. Unless you guys know anything before me. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200307/9538768fe554dc5914c93f7f4211f250.jpg)
I have alot more fuses under the driver side but can't find description of those just under the hood and passenger side fuses. I guess the driver is passenger side since there are non in that side.
Wish they gave me a fuse pulling I haven't been able to grab any with my cold fingers.
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I have alot more fuses under the driver side but can't find description of those just under the hood and passenger side fuses. I guess the driver is passenger side since there are non in that side.
Wish they gave me a fuse pulling I haven't been able to grab any with my cold fingers.
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Title: Re: Blower motor removal?
Post by: SHOdded on March 07, 2020, 03:03:12 AM
Post by: SHOdded on March 07, 2020, 03:03:12 AM
B1086:07 Air Distribution Damper Motor: Mechanical Failure INSPECT for binding/damaged linkage or door. REPAIR as necessary. If no condition is found, INSTALL a new defrost/panel/floor mode door actuator. REFER to Section 412-01 . CLEAR the DTCs. REPEAT the self-test. TEST the system for normal operation.
B1086:11 Air Distribution Damper Motor: Circuit Short to Ground GO to Pinpoint Test J .
B1086:12 Air Distribution Damper Motor: Circuit Short to Battery GO to Pinpoint Test J .
B1086:13 Air Distribution Damper Motor: Circuit Open GO to Pinpoint Test J .
Pinpoint Test J (http://www.nicksmustangranch.com/Service_Manuals/2014/2014_Taurus/Resources/Service_Manual/sefc0003.htm#extract_648)
The HVAC module runs off a fuse in the BJB, and controls power/operation of the blend door actuators. Very likely the problem is in the connector/wiring, or in the HVAC module itself if replacing the blend door does not work.
B1086:11 Air Distribution Damper Motor: Circuit Short to Ground GO to Pinpoint Test J .
B1086:12 Air Distribution Damper Motor: Circuit Short to Battery GO to Pinpoint Test J .
B1086:13 Air Distribution Damper Motor: Circuit Open GO to Pinpoint Test J .
Pinpoint Test J (http://www.nicksmustangranch.com/Service_Manuals/2014/2014_Taurus/Resources/Service_Manual/sefc0003.htm#extract_648)
The HVAC module runs off a fuse in the BJB, and controls power/operation of the blend door actuators. Very likely the problem is in the connector/wiring, or in the HVAC module itself if replacing the blend door does not work.
Title: Re: Blower motor removal?
Post by: Gjkrisa on March 07, 2020, 01:50:41 PM
Post by: Gjkrisa on March 07, 2020, 01:50:41 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on March 07, 2020, 03:03:12 AMSo if the blend door actuator works then maybe there is something broken in the blend door? Or maybe that is still frozen shut? Or since I still get open circuit then that means the HVAC module maybe?
B1086:07 Air Distribution Damper Motor: Mechanical Failure INSPECT for binding/damaged linkage or door. REPAIR as necessary. If no condition is found, INSTALL a new defrost/panel/floor mode door actuator. REFER to Section 412-01 . CLEAR the DTCs. REPEAT the self-test. TEST the system for normal operation.
B1086:11 Air Distribution Damper Motor: Circuit Short to Ground GO to Pinpoint Test J .
B1086:12 Air Distribution Damper Motor: Circuit Short to Battery GO to Pinpoint Test J .
B1086:13 Air Distribution Damper Motor: Circuit Open GO to Pinpoint Test J .
Pinpoint Test J (http://www.nicksmustangranch.com/Service_Manuals/2014/2014_Taurus/Resources/Service_Manual/sefc0003.htm#extract_648)
The HVAC module runs off a fuse in the BJB, and controls power/operation of the blend door actuators. Very likely the problem is in the connector/wiring, or in the HVAC module itself if replacing the blend door does not work.
For the last week when driving the climate would trunk off and the error said something about timeout but no actual code. So I'm leaning towards replacing the HVAC module except for the motor works when I run the test.
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Title: Re: Blower motor removal?
Post by: Gjkrisa on March 07, 2020, 05:49:21 PM
Post by: Gjkrisa on March 07, 2020, 05:49:21 PM
This is what it tells me when I unplug the motor(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200307/87cb008880575f639f2318025a2bfb31.jpg)
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Title: Re: Blower motor removal?
Post by: SHOdded on March 07, 2020, 06:53:15 PM
Post by: SHOdded on March 07, 2020, 06:53:15 PM
Have you replaced the mode door actuator yet?
Title: Re: Blower motor removal?
Post by: Gjkrisa on March 07, 2020, 08:32:29 PM
Post by: Gjkrisa on March 07, 2020, 08:32:29 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on March 07, 2020, 06:53:15 PMI replaced this AA5Z19E616C what forscan calls HVAC damper position motor(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200308/3ae1ddf88f5236ee05854f919f52a095.jpg)
Have you replaced the mode door actuator yet?
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Title: Re: Blower motor removal?
Post by: ZSHO on March 08, 2020, 12:01:38 PM
Post by: ZSHO on March 08, 2020, 12:01:38 PM
There is sometimes a re-calibration procedure which need to be initialized Prior IIRC!
Both Blend door actuators on the (Passenger side) call for the same part numbers.. The one on the (Driver's side) calls for a different part number AFAIK. Z
NOTE: The purpose of the module actuator position calibration is to allow the HVAC module to reinitialize and calibrate the actuator stop points. To carry out calibration, carry out the following steps. Remove Smart Junction Box (SJB) fuse 15 for at least one minute. NOTE: When the ignition switch is switched to the ON position, the HVAC module will initialize and calibrate the actuators. Calibration of the actuators will take approximately 30 seconds. Reinstall SJB (Smart Junction Box) fuse 15. Turn the ignition switch to the ON position and wait 30 seconds before verifying correct temperature blend door operation
Both Blend door actuators on the (Passenger side) call for the same part numbers.. The one on the (Driver's side) calls for a different part number AFAIK. Z
NOTE: The purpose of the module actuator position calibration is to allow the HVAC module to reinitialize and calibrate the actuator stop points. To carry out calibration, carry out the following steps. Remove Smart Junction Box (SJB) fuse 15 for at least one minute. NOTE: When the ignition switch is switched to the ON position, the HVAC module will initialize and calibrate the actuators. Calibration of the actuators will take approximately 30 seconds. Reinstall SJB (Smart Junction Box) fuse 15. Turn the ignition switch to the ON position and wait 30 seconds before verifying correct temperature blend door operation
Title: Re: Blower motor removal?
Post by: Gjkrisa on March 08, 2020, 02:44:52 PM
Post by: Gjkrisa on March 08, 2020, 02:44:52 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on March 08, 2020, 12:01:38 PMWhat fuse should I be looking for because non of these 15 slots look right except for 46 is climate control module
There is sometimes a re-calibration procedure which need to be initialized Prior IIRC!
Both Blend door actuators on the (Passenger side) call for the same part numbers.. The one on the (Driver's side) calls for a different part number AFAIK. Z
NOTE: The purpose of the module actuator position calibration is to allow the HVAC module to reinitialize and calibrate the actuator stop points. To carry out calibration, carry out the following steps. Remove Smart Junction Box (SJB) fuse 15 for at least one minute. NOTE: When the ignition switch is switched to the ON position, the HVAC module will initialize and calibrate the actuators. Calibration of the actuators will take approximately 30 seconds. Reinstall SJB (Smart Junction Box) fuse 15. Turn the ignition switch to the ON position and wait 30 seconds before verifying correct temperature blend door operation
But being the fuse is so hard to get out I'm going to try using forscan to just reinitialize the module. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200308/c9630c3ac5e4e36b8c2a35c2df5431dc.jpg)
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Title: Re: Blower motor removal?
Post by: SHOdded on March 08, 2020, 02:49:31 PM
Post by: SHOdded on March 08, 2020, 02:49:31 PM
FSM recalibration:
NOTE: The purpose of the module actuator position calibration is to allow the HVAC module to reinitialize and calibrate the actuator stop points. To carry out calibration, carry out the following steps.
Remove Smart Junction Box (SJB) fuse 15 for at least one minute.
NOTE: When the ignition switch is switched to the ON position, the HVAC module will initialize and calibrate the actuators. Calibration of the actuators will take approximately 30 seconds.
Reinstall SJB fuse 15. Turn the ignition switch to the ON position and wait 30 seconds before verifying correct mode door operation.
NOTE: The purpose of the module actuator position calibration is to allow the HVAC module to reinitialize and calibrate the actuator stop points. To carry out calibration, carry out the following steps.
Remove Smart Junction Box (SJB) fuse 15 for at least one minute.
NOTE: When the ignition switch is switched to the ON position, the HVAC module will initialize and calibrate the actuators. Calibration of the actuators will take approximately 30 seconds.
Reinstall SJB fuse 15. Turn the ignition switch to the ON position and wait 30 seconds before verifying correct mode door operation.
Title: Re: Blower motor removal?
Post by: ZSHO on March 08, 2020, 03:21:11 PM
Post by: ZSHO on March 08, 2020, 03:21:11 PM
Slot 46 which has 10amp Fuse. (Climate control module). Z
(https://i.imgur.com/8M13zBRh.jpg)
Title: Re: Blower motor removal?
Post by: Gjkrisa on March 08, 2020, 07:38:53 PM
Post by: Gjkrisa on March 08, 2020, 07:38:53 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on March 08, 2020, 03:21:11 PMLittle bit different :s(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200308/b03f99123e6a9b2eb3fa1db74499f31b.jpg)
Slot 46 which has 10amp Fuse. (Climate control module). Z(https://i.imgur.com/8M13zBRh.jpg)
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Or no you did take that under the driver ? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200308/d73106dfed5ff4f1ec6c0d6a0d94e156.jpg)
Title: Re: Blower motor removal?
Post by: ZSHO on March 08, 2020, 07:53:55 PM
Post by: ZSHO on March 08, 2020, 07:53:55 PM
They look about the same IMO! That's right under the (Drivers side) dash. Fingers crossed for ya. Z
(https://i.imgur.com/8M13zBRh.jpg)
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Title: Re: Blower motor removal?
Post by: Gjkrisa on March 08, 2020, 08:00:23 PM
Post by: Gjkrisa on March 08, 2020, 08:00:23 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on March 08, 2020, 07:53:55 PMFinally got the fuse pulled using wire strippers
They look about the same IMO! That's right under the (Drivers side) dash. Fingers crossed for ya. Z(https://i.imgur.com/8M13zBRh.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200308/d73106dfed5ff4f1ec6c0d6a0d94e156.jpg)
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Title: Re: Blower motor removal?
Post by: Gjkrisa on March 08, 2020, 08:15:50 PM
Post by: Gjkrisa on March 08, 2020, 08:15:50 PM
Nope still didn't work I removed both 15 and 46 had to use a small flat head to get to 15
Used a timer for the 1 minutes and the 30 seconds when I turned it on still didn't sound like it was even trying to calibrate
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Used a timer for the 1 minutes and the 30 seconds when I turned it on still didn't sound like it was even trying to calibrate
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Title: Re: Blower motor removal?
Post by: SHOdded on March 09, 2020, 01:00:16 AM
Post by: SHOdded on March 09, 2020, 01:00:16 AM
If wiring and connectors look good, you will likely need to replace the HVAC module. Used can be had from car-part.com LKQ eBay etc.
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Title: Re: Blower motor removal?
Post by: ZSHO on March 09, 2020, 07:10:14 AM
Post by: ZSHO on March 09, 2020, 07:10:14 AM
What are the temps in AK @ the moment! Hopefully not frozen at best. Z
Title: Re: Blower motor removal?
Post by: Gjkrisa on March 09, 2020, 10:38:14 AM
Post by: Gjkrisa on March 09, 2020, 10:38:14 AM
3above finally we have had a more usual winter but they say we haven't been cold this long since the 70s -15 to -30 most days since January
Been able to feel the sun for the last two weeks and it would raise when the sun came out but not really positive at all except the first week we made it to +20 for Thursday thru the weekend.
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Been able to feel the sun for the last two weeks and it would raise when the sun came out but not really positive at all except the first week we made it to +20 for Thursday thru the weekend.
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Title: Re: Blower motor removal?
Post by: Gjkrisa on March 14, 2020, 02:32:21 PM
Post by: Gjkrisa on March 14, 2020, 02:32:21 PM
Also I have this issue do you think it's the HVAC module or is it the controls? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200314/bddf46f82c64b96c938931be544006df.jpg)
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Title: Re: Blower motor removal?
Post by: Gjkrisa on March 23, 2020, 01:59:30 AM
Post by: Gjkrisa on March 23, 2020, 01:59:30 AM
Where and how should I track this down? Or should I just take it to Ford to diagnose this?
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Title: Re: Blower motor removal?
Post by: SHOdded on March 23, 2020, 02:18:10 AM
Post by: SHOdded on March 23, 2020, 02:18:10 AM
Could be the switches (the front interface control module - audio and hvac buttons/controls) temporarily lost communication. Code says not present at time of lookup, so erase and see if it returns.
Title: Re: Blower motor removal?
Post by: ZSHO on March 23, 2020, 08:12:19 AM
Post by: ZSHO on March 23, 2020, 08:12:19 AM
Side note: Does the Recirculation mode button on front interface panel function work! Maybe a SSM reflash from dealer is in order Z
Title: Re: Blower motor removal?
Post by: Gjkrisa on March 23, 2020, 10:37:14 AM
Post by: Gjkrisa on March 23, 2020, 10:37:14 AM
It does say circuit protection it shows up after a few times of the HVAC shutting down I can turn it back on by using the auto or defrost panel selector sometimes those buttons get locked out for 30 seconds or by using the on screen controls will never lockout.
Most days im not in the car to do it and some days it happens 10 times in 15 minutes.
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Most days im not in the car to do it and some days it happens 10 times in 15 minutes.
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Title: Re: Blower motor removal?
Post by: Gjkrisa on April 01, 2020, 03:42:52 PM
Post by: Gjkrisa on April 01, 2020, 03:42:52 PM
Clear code it comes back recirc works
Starting a new thread for this
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Title: B1086- Air Distribution Damper Motor - Panel/floor/defrost not working
Post by: Gjkrisa on April 01, 2020, 03:59:07 PM
Post by: Gjkrisa on April 01, 2020, 03:59:07 PM
So I had gotten this code after taking car to car wash first had frozen blower motor but by the time I got to take a look at it the moisture was gone but evident moisture was there
Replace with new actuator still didn't work so now going through workshop manual to find pinpoint test here's what I've got so far when I get a chance for multimeter test we'll go further in
In photos you can see I cleared the codes then I ran test in forscan and codes came back.
Looked up workshop manual and found pinpoint test for this.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200401/c6a2aa87bd516fcbdde96fe7a7caaf4d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200401/e5a230e2a899e9b90cd322555dc59679.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200401/aa91926684e998d86d0fa076601b5a8e.jpg)
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Replace with new actuator still didn't work so now going through workshop manual to find pinpoint test here's what I've got so far when I get a chance for multimeter test we'll go further in
In photos you can see I cleared the codes then I ran test in forscan and codes came back.
Looked up workshop manual and found pinpoint test for this.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200401/c6a2aa87bd516fcbdde96fe7a7caaf4d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200401/e5a230e2a899e9b90cd322555dc59679.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200401/aa91926684e998d86d0fa076601b5a8e.jpg)
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Title: Re: B1086- Air Distribution Damper Motor - Panel/floor/defrost not working
Post by: ZSHO on April 01, 2020, 07:14:20 PM
Post by: ZSHO on April 01, 2020, 07:14:20 PM
FYI- Both Topics were merged together for added convenience. Be well. Z :)
Title: Re: B1086- Air Distribution Damper Motor - Panel/floor/defrost not working
Post by: Gjkrisa on June 19, 2020, 09:56:28 PM
Post by: Gjkrisa on June 19, 2020, 09:56:28 PM
So found a control panel on eBay hope that will at least fix the climate from turning on and off https://www.ebay.com/i/183990689952?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=183990689952&targetid=917373795544&device=m&mktype=pla&googleloc=9033981&poi=&campaignid=9343999128&mkgroupid=103102745668&rlsatarget=aud-622524042718:pla-917373795544&abcId=1139336&merchantid=6296724&gclid=CjwKCAjwxLH3BRApEiwAqX9arXvmsUHHlnH0teugs0G9dKo_klRt5xc4pM1mxCVkiE475l_ToFZTIBoCAZIQAvD_BwE
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Title: Re: B1086- Air Distribution Damper Motor - Panel/floor/defrost not working
Post by: Gjkrisa on July 02, 2020, 01:19:45 PM
Post by: Gjkrisa on July 02, 2020, 01:19:45 PM
New panel worked think I cracked part of the new facia trying to take it out of the packaging so I had to swap out all the internals be posting a video on that as it did take some time figuring how to separate the board from the volume control knob
Also used ultimate compound using a yellow or lighter polishing foam pad came out much better left no light scratches (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200702/b14992fe488f590ba05e266c99a6b581.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200702/5edf073cd9798d0e50f09f8e71ed9ae6.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200702/919e0f6e9dd11a3351cab70ef17f353e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200702/3eb891ad7489e741fc0af93de8f2d1b9.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200702/091c99b2d69cc3741ae04c84c49b0ca0.jpg)
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Also used ultimate compound using a yellow or lighter polishing foam pad came out much better left no light scratches (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200702/b14992fe488f590ba05e266c99a6b581.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200702/5edf073cd9798d0e50f09f8e71ed9ae6.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200702/919e0f6e9dd11a3351cab70ef17f353e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200702/3eb891ad7489e741fc0af93de8f2d1b9.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200702/091c99b2d69cc3741ae04c84c49b0ca0.jpg)
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