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Title: Gearhead E30 vs Livernois E30 MIR 03/17/2019
Post by: StealBlueSho on March 17, 2019, 04:24:18 PM
Went to the track...  got 8 runs in!!!! Here is the best of each tune. Mods in signature, this is without downpipes.

I am getting much better 60fts with LMS, I think it has to do with how fast GH ramps the boost. I was launching at 1700rpms with the GH tune and was sti spinning a bit. This goes right in line with the dynos...

1/4 Tank of E30, full weight with child's seat, 22psi on the front tires.

DA of -623ft

The track was prepped in the morning and then wasn't prepped after that, the 60fts were getting harder to achieve as the track was less sticky later in the day.

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Title: Re: Gearhead E30 vs Livernois E30 MIR 03/17/2019
Post by: 802SHO on March 17, 2019, 04:47:03 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on March 17, 2019, 04:24:18 PM
Went to the track...  got 8 runs in!!!! Here is the best of each tune. Mods in signature, this is without downpipes.

I am getting much better 60fts with LMS, I think it has to do with how fast GH ramps the boost. I was launching at 1700rpms with the GH tune and was sti spinning a bit. This goes right in line with the dynos...

1/4 Tank of E30, full weight with child's seat, 22psi on the front tires.

DA of -623ft

The track was prepped in the morning and then wasn't prepped after that, the 60fts were getting harder to achieve as the track was less sticky later in the day.

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Wow that's really good!  And the DA was excellent!  The times are less than a tenth off and mph less than 1 mph difference between the two tunes.  That's very very interesting........
Title: Re: Gearhead E30 vs Livernois E30 MIR 03/17/2019
Post by: StealBlueSho on March 17, 2019, 04:50:25 PM
Very close indeed, but look at the 60ft times... That LMS run was a much better run than the GH run.. The Gearhead run would have been a 12.0xx if I had gotten a decent 60ft out of it.
Title: Re: Gearhead E30 vs Livernois E30 MIR 03/17/2019
Post by: limited02 on March 17, 2019, 05:08:03 PM
Great runs! I believe in the FB post you said you needed new tires?  I think you're tires/downpipes away from 11.XX!!!
Title: Re: Gearhead E30 vs Livernois E30 MIR 03/17/2019
Post by: StealBlueSho on March 17, 2019, 05:14:43 PM
Quote from: limited02 on March 17, 2019, 05:08:03 PM
Great runs! I believe in the FB post you said you needed new tires?  I think you're tires/downpipes away from 11.XX!!!

LOL... Tires and Downpipes are sitting in the garage.. just not installed yet.
Title: Re: Gearhead E30 vs Livernois E30 MIR 03/17/2019
Post by: 802SHO on March 17, 2019, 08:38:56 PM
I agree, with your new tires on you should achieve your desired 60 ft and downpipes will give you that edge over into an 11.  This is an all time new personal best for you as well correct?  Very impressive! 
Title: Gearhead E30 vs Livernois E30 MIR 03/17/2019
Post by: StealBlueSho on March 17, 2019, 08:46:49 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on March 17, 2019, 08:38:56 PM
I agree, with your new tires on you should achieve your desired 60 ft and downpipes will give you that edge over into an 11.  This is an all time new personal best for you as well correct?  Very impressive!

Yup! New PB for me, Thanks! Tires are waiting for me when I want to put them on lol... probably after the turbos and downpipes.

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Title: Re: Gearhead E30 vs Livernois E30 MIR 03/17/2019
Post by: 802SHO on March 17, 2019, 10:16:52 PM
I'm super excited to see the results after everything installed! 
Title: Re: Gearhead E30 vs Livernois E30 MIR 03/17/2019
Post by: 18SHO on March 18, 2019, 02:51:00 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on March 17, 2019, 08:46:49 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on March 17, 2019, 08:38:56 PM
I agree, with your new tires on you should achieve your desired 60 ft and downpipes will give you that edge over into an 11.  This is an all time new personal best for you as well correct?  Very impressive!

Yup! New PB for me, Thanks! Tires are waiting for me when I want to put them on lol... probably after the turbos and downpipes.

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Those tires look awfully familiar, hope they get you some good 1/4 miles
Title: Re: Gearhead E30 vs Livernois E30 MIR 03/17/2019
Post by: StealBlueSho on March 18, 2019, 02:52:17 PM
Quote from: 18SHO on March 18, 2019, 02:51:00 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on March 17, 2019, 08:46:49 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on March 17, 2019, 08:38:56 PM
I agree, with your new tires on you should achieve your desired 60 ft and downpipes will give you that edge over into an 11.  This is an all time new personal best for you as well correct?  Very impressive!

Yup! New PB for me, Thanks! Tires are waiting for me when I want to put them on lol... probably after the turbos and downpipes.

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Those tires look awfully familiar, hope they get you some good 1/4 miles

Me too! I am now on the fence about reselling them and getting Nittos... lol. I think I might need a stickier tire.
Title: Re: Gearhead E30 vs Livernois E30 MIR 03/17/2019
Post by: 802SHO on March 18, 2019, 03:33:49 PM
Nitto NT555R 275/40/20 up front only I bet will work wonders.  I am considering this idea myself.  Only using them as front tires.  Don't think all four are necessary if you got a good high performance summer tire in the rear.
Title: Re: Gearhead E30 vs Livernois E30 MIR 03/17/2019
Post by: StealBlueSho on March 18, 2019, 03:35:03 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on March 18, 2019, 03:33:49 PM
Nitto NT555R 275/40/20 up front only I bet will work wonders.  I am considering this idea myself.  Only using them as front tires.

Can a 275/40/20 fit on stock wheels? I know its probably searchable... just being lazy..
Title: Re: Gearhead E30 vs Livernois E30 MIR 03/17/2019
Post by: 802SHO on March 18, 2019, 03:39:00 PM
It will, charger guys do it all the time on the 20x8 stock wheel
Title: Re: Gearhead E30 vs Livernois E30 MIR 03/17/2019
Post by: 802SHO on March 18, 2019, 03:44:08 PM
You could do a Nitto NT05 255/45/20 up front that would fit your wheel better but its not as sticky as the NT555R
Title: Re: Gearhead E30 vs Livernois E30 MIR 03/17/2019
Post by: lamrith on March 18, 2019, 03:47:14 PM
Might as well go 275/40-20 on all 4 though, that way you can also throw car around and have rear end planted if you play in the twisties.  I love mine, and am confident in it's handling when I get rowdy on mtn roads this summer.  It  stocks to the point it becomes uncomfortable to turn much harder in stock seats/belt, need a good racing bucket and 5pt harness.

8" can be done, but lot of mfg have a min spec of 9" for the 275 tires.  Anything less and no warranty, etc etc.  Some shops may not install them either.  I found a set of aftermarket wheels for a good deal, less in fact than having my stockers painted, so it was a no brainer for me.  You can get wheels for under $200/ea these days.  20x9.5 et35
Title: Re: Gearhead E30 vs Livernois E30 MIR 03/17/2019
Post by: Macgyver on March 18, 2019, 07:37:33 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on March 18, 2019, 03:35:03 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on March 18, 2019, 03:33:49 PM
Nitto NT555R 275/40/20 up front only I bet will work wonders.  I am considering this idea myself.  Only using them as front tires.

Can a 275/40/20 fit on stock wheels? I know its probably searchable... just being lazy..

Yes but with draw backs. I have them on my 2015 with 20". You are putting a 9" wide tire on an 8" rim. The way I looked at it was that is a 1/2" each way. Not too much right?

They work. Not perfectly but they work well. They are just air pressure sensitive. Too much they feel like they are rolling (Hard Hard cornering) since they are pinched not stretched. I run 30 psi DD and they run great. Was just a slight learning curve.

Anyway. The tires I got with a few others here were only $95 shipped from Amazon. They are $185 now.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PUFIPRA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PUFIPRA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
Title: Re: Gearhead E30 vs Livernois E30 MIR 03/17/2019
Post by: lamrith on March 19, 2019, 11:45:18 AM
Quote from: Macgyver on March 18, 2019, 07:37:33 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on March 18, 2019, 03:35:03 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on March 18, 2019, 03:33:49 PM
Nitto NT555R 275/40/20 up front only I bet will work wonders.  I am considering this idea myself.  Only using them as front tires.

Can a 275/40/20 fit on stock wheels? I know its probably searchable... just being lazy..

Yes but with draw backs. I have them on my 2015 with 20". You are putting a 9" wide tire on an 8" rim. The way I looked at it was that is a 1/2" each way. Not too much right?

They work. Not perfectly but they work well. They are just air pressure sensitive. Too much they feel like they are rolling (Hard Hard cornering) since they are pinched not stretched. I run 30 psi DD and they run great. Was just a slight learning curve.

Anyway. The tires I got with a few others here were only $95 shipped from Amazon. They are $185 now.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PUFIPRA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PUFIPRA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
Yup that is what I bought as well when I think you posted the sale link.
About the same time I bought a set of VOXX Lago wheels: 20X9.5 5x114.3/5x120 offset35
I paid $675 shipped for a set of 4 wheels, they have gone up since then but still on ebay:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/SET-4-20X9-5-35-5X114-3-120-VOXX-LAGO-SILVER-WHEELS-RIMS-20-INCH-21932/192541393938?hash=item2cd45c8412:g:7SQAAOSwIAJcBRyp (https://www.ebay.com/itm/SET-4-20X9-5-35-5X114-3-120-VOXX-LAGO-SILVER-WHEELS-RIMS-20-INCH-21932/192541393938?hash=item2cd45c8412:g:7SQAAOSwIAJcBRyp)

I love these tires, I have not had the inflation sensitivity Mac noticed.  I will be honest I have not even checked air pressure on them in a few months as I have not had any change in handling/performance to cause concern and they have not been visibly sagging.  I have not tracked/launched them, but they give me all the grip I need so far.

SBS- Given what you are after and the limits you are pushing I honestly think it would be a bit of a waste to put 275's on stock wheels, it will deform the tire and you will not get the full performance possible from the tire.  You just will not get getting the full value from the tire upgrade to make it worth getting a better tire than what you have waiting already?
Title: Re: Gearhead E30 vs Livernois E30 MIR 03/17/2019
Post by: mrhighcaliber on March 19, 2019, 03:01:16 PM
I agree 100% with lamrith. 275/40/20 - 9.5 (+40 or less) on all 4 corners is the way to go with the hi/po direction you're going with your sho. Loved them especially in the Twisties. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190319/5de174fef6aabc84c6ca8369b59cf927.jpg)

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Title: Re: Gearhead E30 vs Livernois E30 MIR 03/17/2019
Post by: lamrith on March 19, 2019, 03:39:17 PM
Quote from: mrhighcaliber on March 19, 2019, 03:01:16 PM
I agree 100% with lamrith. 275/40/20 - 9.5 (+40 or less) on all 4 corners is the way to go with the hi/po direction you're going with your sho. Loved them especially in the Twisties. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190319/5de174fef6aabc84c6ca8369b59cf927.jpg)

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That picture looks awfully familiar.  :-p
Title: Re: Gearhead E30 vs Livernois E30 MIR 03/17/2019
Post by: StealBlueSho on March 19, 2019, 05:00:38 PM
Quote from: mrhighcaliber on March 19, 2019, 03:01:16 PM
I agree 100% with lamrith. 275/40/20 - 9.5 (+40 or less) on all 4 corners is the way to go with the hi/po direction you're going with your sho. Loved them especially in the Twisties. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190319/5de174fef6aabc84c6ca8369b59cf927.jpg)

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Had those BFgoodrich on my 2010. They were not bad...


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Title: Re: Gearhead E30 vs Livernois E30 MIR 03/17/2019
Post by: shoNoff on March 19, 2019, 07:26:03 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on March 18, 2019, 03:35:03 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on March 18, 2019, 03:33:49 PM
Nitto NT555R 275/40/20 up front only I bet will work wonders.  I am considering this idea myself.  Only using them as front tires.

Can a 275/40/20 fit on stock wheels? I know its probably searchable... just being lazy..

I have a 265/40/20 on my flower wheels. Been on for 15k miles no problem. And as 802 can tell you and my videos show I can still spin those b*tches like they are pizza cutters.
Title: Re: Gearhead E30 vs Livernois E30 MIR 03/17/2019
Post by: AJP turbo on March 22, 2019, 07:28:59 PM
That is awesome SBS. It's like the results of a Meth tune without the hassle! Easy peasy just put gas in and go. I see 11's in your future! Beautiful
Title: Gearhead E30 vs Livernois E30 MIR 03/17/2019
Post by: StealBlueSho on March 22, 2019, 07:33:37 PM
Quote from: AJP turbo on March 22, 2019, 07:28:59 PM
That is awesome SBS. It's like the results of a Meth tune without the hassle! Easy peasy just put gas in and go. I see 11's in your future! Beautiful

Thanks Brad! Turbos going in a few weeks... 11's are there now but the turbos should get me consistently in the 11's... even with my piss poor driving lol.


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Title: Re: Gearhead E30 vs Livernois E30 MIR 03/17/2019
Post by: 18SHO on March 23, 2019, 10:33:13 AM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on March 18, 2019, 02:52:17 PM
Quote from: 18SHO on March 18, 2019, 02:51:00 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on March 17, 2019, 08:46:49 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on March 17, 2019, 08:38:56 PM
I agree, with your new tires on you should achieve your desired 60 ft and downpipes will give you that edge over into an 11.  This is an all time new personal best for you as well correct?  Very impressive!

Yup! New PB for me, Thanks! Tires are waiting for me when I want to put them on lol... probably after the turbos and downpipes.

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Those tires look awfully familiar, hope they get you some good 1/4 miles

Me too! I am now on the fence about reselling them and getting Nittos... lol. I think I might need a stickier tire.

How much did the gearhead intercooler run you? I cant find it on their site
Title: Re: Gearhead E30 vs Livernois E30 MIR 03/17/2019
Post by: 802SHO on March 23, 2019, 01:25:06 PM
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How much did the gearhead intercooler run you? I cant find it on their site
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With shipping its about $850.  Email Sales@ghtuning.com and in subject line but SHO IC Upgrade. 

Their turbos aren't on the website either.  I wonder why the website hasn't been updated.
Title: Re: Gearhead E30 vs Livernois E30 MIR 03/17/2019
Post by: bpd1151 on March 23, 2019, 02:05:54 PM
Last I heard, as of a few days ago, all IC's on hand have been sold.

I do believe another batch is in production though.

So an email request is appropriate. If anything, just to get on the list for the next round(s).

Placing deposits on same are helpful.



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Title: Re: Gearhead E30 vs Livernois E30 MIR 03/17/2019
Post by: SM105K on March 24, 2019, 01:49:00 AM
Quote from: bpd1151 on March 23, 2019, 02:05:54 PM
Last I heard, as of a few days ago, all IC's on hand have been sold.

I do believe another batch is in production though.

So an email request is appropriate. If anything, just to get on the list for the next round(s).

Placing deposits on same are helpful.



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Yes sir, Matt at Gearhead said they should be back in stock late April.
Title: Re: Gearhead E30 vs Livernois E30 MIR 03/17/2019
Post by: avidmotion on April 26, 2019, 11:08:56 PM
I suggest general gmax rs summer tires, working out extremely well
Title: Re: Gearhead E30 vs Livernois E30 MIR 03/17/2019
Post by: Agentlongwood on April 27, 2019, 02:14:21 PM
Quote from: SM105K on March 24, 2019, 01:49:00 AM
Yes sir, Matt at Gearhead said they should be back in stock late April.

Oooo... What's the email address to contact them at?  Things at home are looking pretty grim, so I may need an intercooler to cheer me up.
Title: Re: Gearhead E30 vs Livernois E30 MIR 03/17/2019
Post by: bpd1151 on April 27, 2019, 02:18:14 PM
Quote from: Agentlongwood on April 27, 2019, 02:14:21 PMOooo... What's the email address to contact them at?  Things at home are looking pretty grim, so I may need an intercooler to cheer me up.

Ask, and thy shall receive......

https://www.ghtuning.com

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Title: Re: Gearhead E30 vs Livernois E30 MIR 03/17/2019
Post by: Agentlongwood on April 28, 2019, 12:39:52 AM
Thank you sir.  I appreciate it.
Title: Re: Gearhead E30 vs Livernois E30 MIR 03/17/2019
Post by: ZSHO on April 28, 2019, 07:42:12 AM
How many Batches have been distributed so far! Some members report that the 1/4" NPT Bung was located either on the Driver's or passenger side!
Maybe its dependent on which batch! TOL. Z 
Title: Re: Gearhead E30 vs Livernois E30 MIR 03/17/2019
Post by: TopherSho on April 28, 2019, 10:14:40 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on April 28, 2019, 07:42:12 AM
How many Batches have been distributed so far! Some members report that the 1/4" NPT Bung was located either on the Driver's or passenger side!
Maybe its dependent on which batch! TOL. Z

Not to Hijack... but how much is the new IC, and is it a direct replace?  i have not been following the posts .. TY in advance.
Title: Re: Gearhead E30 vs Livernois E30 MIR 03/17/2019
Post by: bpd1151 on April 28, 2019, 10:23:29 PM
About $800 IIRC and yes direct replacement.

No modifying necessary. Fits like a damn glove. So impressive!

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Title: Re: Gearhead E30 vs Livernois E30 MIR 03/17/2019
Post by: StealBlueSho on April 28, 2019, 10:26:15 PM
Like a love glove...


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