I'm going to purchase a Snow Performance Water/Meth Kit and i was wondering if someone could guide me to let me know what the best kit would be for my stock 2012 Ecoboost Flex with Torrie"s tune.
Quote from: SoCalFlexin on July 02, 2018, 06:14:06 PM
I'm going to purchase a Snow Performance Water/Meth Kit and i was wondering if someone could guide me to let me know what the best kit would be for my stock 2012 Ecoboost Flex with Torrie"s tune.
Save yourself the trouble and call Julio over at Alky Control....
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Quote from: StealBlueSho on July 02, 2018, 06:16:30 PM
Quote from: SoCalFlexin on July 02, 2018, 06:14:06 PM
I'm going to purchase a Snow Performance Water/Meth Kit and i was wondering if someone could guide me to let me know what the best kit would be for my stock 2012 Ecoboost Flex with Torrie"s tune.
Save yourself the trouble and call Julio over at Alky Control....
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Just curious and don't want to highjack threads. But why do you suggest Alky control over snow. I'm in the market myself and going to purchase something this week.
I had Alky Control on my 2010 SHO. The setup just worked and I had super fine control over the system with their controller.
All the lines are high quality and are designed to run 100% methanol.
The pump is customized to handle 100% methanol.
Never once have I heard ANYONE say they called Julio and he didn't help.
And if we are being honest, I have never heard of an Alky Kit failing... installation issues due to the installer, but never an issue with the kit.
Snow Performance is the other way around...lots of issues, hard to get customer support to help, and not designed to run 100% methanol... lines leaking, cheap connectors, etc...
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Quote from: StealBlueSho on July 02, 2018, 07:10:44 PM
I had Alky Control on my 2010 SHO. The setup just worked and I had super fine control over the system with their controller.
All the lines are high quality and are designed to run 100% methanol.
The pump is customized to handle 100% methanol.
Never once have I heard ANYONE say they called Julio and he didn't help.
And if we are being honest, I have never heard of an Alky Kit failing... installation issues due to the installer, but never an issue with the kit.
Snow Performance is the other way around...lots of issues, hard to get customer support to help, and not designed to run 100% methanol... lines leaking, cheap connectors, etc...
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I agree with all but one point. The current Kit pump is 100% ok with 100% Meth. Mine has been running 100% for two yeas and is due to be retired soon even thought it seems to work fine. The rest is accurate. Snow has a lot of .. um .. temps? who tend to not have a lot of answers. Once you get past them its not so bad but it can be frustrating if your busted on the side of the road. The kit itself is pretty basic, not really alot of build quality to it. The Akly kits I have seen at PiR and Woodburn have been dead sexy and built for combat.
Get braided lines. Save yourself time and money as SBS notes. I did not and now I need to replace them when I retire the pump at the end of summer.
Quote from: TopherSho on July 02, 2018, 08:03:42 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on July 02, 2018, 07:10:44 PM
I had Alky Control on my 2010 SHO. The setup just worked and I had super fine control over the system with their controller.
All the lines are high quality and are designed to run 100% methanol.
The pump is customized to handle 100% methanol.
Never once have I heard ANYONE say they called Julio and he didn't help.
And if we are being honest, I have never heard of an Alky Kit failing... installation issues due to the installer, but never an issue with the kit.
Snow Performance is the other way around...lots of issues, hard to get customer support to help, and not designed to run 100% methanol... lines leaking, cheap connectors, etc...
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I agree with all but one point. The current Kit pump is 100% ok with 100% Meth. Mine has been running 100% for two yeas and is due to be retired soon even thought it seems to work fine. The rest is accurate. Snow has a lot of .. um .. temps? who tend to not have a lot of answers. Once you get past them its not so bad but it can be frustrating if your busted on the side of the road. The kit itself is pretty basic, not really alot of build quality to it. The Akly kits I have seen at PiR and Woodburn have been dead sexy and built for combat.
Get braided lines. Save yourself time and money as SBS notes. I did not and now I need to replace them when I retire the pump at the end of summer.
I remember reading Snow doesn't support 100%
Meth on their pumps?
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Snow also has been known to NOT provide warranty support of their own products.
Agreed with all else stated previously.
Quote from: bpd1151 on July 02, 2018, 10:37:56 PM
Snow also has been known to NOT provide warranty support of their own products.
Agreed with all else stated previously.
Yes. This is true... they have a clause where if you purchase the snow kit for less than MSRP it voids all warranty's.
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Quote from: StealBlueSho on July 02, 2018, 10:40:28 PM
Quote from: bpd1151 on July 02, 2018, 10:37:56 PM
Snow also has been known to NOT provide warranty support of their own products.
Agreed with all else stated previously.
Yes. This is true... they have a clause where if you purchase the snow kit for less than MSRP it voids all warranty's.
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Such a weird policy .. but VERY accurate. When I talked to them to get the low down on the 100% meth support they mentioned very sternly that the 250$ kit i was eyeballing would have -0- warranty.
IMHO NO ONE Can even come close to Julio Don customer service and support which is by far second to none.....
I was initially amazed @ the level of customer support considering my Alky kit was not purchased from Alky Control but directly from LMS! Z
Wow great info guys thanks a bunch. I was really going to go with Snow but I think calling Alky Control seems like the smarter move. So if Im reading between the lines correctly the LMS kit is made by Alky?
Quote from: shoNoff on July 03, 2018, 10:00:21 AM
Wow great info guys thanks a bunch. I was really going to go with Snow but I think calling Alky Control seems like the smarter move. So if Im reading between the lines correctly the LMS kit is made by Alky?
Yes, the LMS kit is actually made by Alky Control. They literally drop ship it from Florida where Julio's business is run.
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I don't have any experience with Snow, but the Alky Control kit has been good for me and Julio's customer support is great. I did have an issue with the small control box acting up, but after a call to Julio he had me send in the old one and sent me a new one a couple of days later free of charge. My kit was transferred from my old car to my new car so that could have been part of the issue. Either way, the wiring, lines, connectors, etc are all nice quality.
I would never choose snow again. In fact I plan on converting to a Alky pump and Alky lines.
To the OP Im really sorry to highjack your thread. To everyone that answered thank you so much for the info. Looks like if its good enough for LMS its good enough for me. Im also doing this research for my dad who is going to be adding methanol to his Ecoboost mustang at the same time.
Quote from: shoNoff on July 03, 2018, 10:50:24 AM
To the OP Im really sorry to highjack your thread. To everyone that answered thank you so much for the info. Looks like if its good enough for LMS its good enough for me. Im also doing this research for my dad who is going to be adding methanol to his Ecoboost mustang at the same time.
We have found that all of the items in the alky kit are really built to last and they are all high quality parts and lines and julio is a great person to work with and we have always found the best results with that system!
Quote from: Livernois Motorsports on July 03, 2018, 11:58:58 AM
Quote from: shoNoff on July 03, 2018, 10:50:24 AM
To the OP Im really sorry to highjack your thread. To everyone that answered thank you so much for the info. Looks like if its good enough for LMS its good enough for me. Im also doing this research for my dad who is going to be adding methanol to his Ecoboost mustang at the same time.
We have found that all of the items in the alky kit are really built to last and they are all high quality parts and lines and julio is a great person to work with and we have always found the best results with that system!
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I don't see anything on your site. Do you offer a kit for a 2015 ecoboost mustang?
Quote from: shoNoff on July 03, 2018, 12:46:14 PM
Quote from: Livernois Motorsports on July 03, 2018, 11:58:58 AM
Quote from: shoNoff on July 03, 2018, 10:50:24 AM
To the OP Im really sorry to highjack your thread. To everyone that answered thank you so much for the info. Looks like if its good enough for LMS its good enough for me. Im also doing this research for my dad who is going to be adding methanol to his Ecoboost mustang at the same time.
We have found that all of the items in the alky kit are really built to last and they are all high quality parts and lines and julio is a great person to work with and we have always found the best results with that system!
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I don't see anything on your site. Do you offer a kit for a 2015 ecoboost mustang?
We can probably make one for that vehicle as we have fabricated them to work on a mustang
LoL... it's probably the same kit! They are pretty universal...
Livernois used to add a custom bracket for the pump mount... not sure if they still do. I didn't receive that bracket when I ordered mine. Just make sure to ask for it.
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Probably right SBS. I'll be calling Livernois this week to order myself a kit and talk about the mustang. Thanks again to everyone
Quote from: ZSHO on July 03, 2018, 07:44:03 AM
IMHO NO ONE Can even come close to Julio Don customer service and support which is by far second to none.....
I was initially amazed @ the level of customer support
^^^ This right here! ^^^ Just bought one and Love it! Definitely superior quality.
Lol Do the trunk mount too!! Its worth it.
As all others have said, stay away from Snow. I have had EVERY problem mentioned in the other posts. Leaking, failed pump, no warranty due to the price I paid. Just look them up on BBB, complete crap. Dare i use the controller on my next kit? Its the only thing that didn't fail and given its complexity I highly doubt anyone at Snow had anything to do with building it.