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Title: Lessons Learned & Memories Earned
Post by: shoNoff on May 28, 2019, 04:39:11 PM
Quote from: SM105K on May 28, 2019, 02:39:37 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 28, 2019, 01:20:57 PM
Quote from: Jordan on May 28, 2019, 01:10:04 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 28, 2019, 01:07:21 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on May 28, 2019, 12:55:22 PM
I just go by feel...it if feels good I go for it.....wait lol

I might learn how to shallow stage this year.  Doing well being a noob though

I will teach you kemosabe. Very very simple to do. Really I pre stage and I roll into stage as slow as possible. As soon as I see the staged light flicker I know one more inch and I'm in. At the speeds of our cars you are talking most likely only .03-.05 tops in et. And I'm not even sure it's that much.



Haha, every hundredth counts when you are only a quarter second from the overall record

100% Jordan. I believe if memory serves me correct it takes 1 foot of rollout for your tire to break the beam. That's if you are staged shallow. Deep I believe you can get that down to roughly 6 inches. So again shallow will basically give you a running start. God I'm giving out all my drag racing secrets now  ;). I can really teach you guys how to fool your competitors eyes bracket racing too. But that could be a different thread lol.

Fooling bracket racers is easy.  Get out on them and pull the e brake right at 1200 feet. HEHE.


Funny story about. I nearly got tossed out of Moroso motorsports park (now palm beach raceway) roughly 15 years ago. I had a big block foxbody I used to bracket race. Car ran low 10's high 9's. Anyways I was out on a dragster and I had just replaced the 11 inch drums for wilwood discs on the rear. I smashed the peddle going through the lights locked up all 4 tires in a big cloud of smoke. Let's just say I got a strong talking to and the track manager nearly threw me out. I was told and I quote "we don't do that god damn Yankee drag racing down here." My 22 year old punk response "great I'm a Red Sox fan."
Title: Re: Lessons Learned & Memories Earned
Post by: SM105K on May 28, 2019, 05:01:21 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 28, 2019, 04:39:11 PM
Quote from: SM105K on May 28, 2019, 02:39:37 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 28, 2019, 01:20:57 PM
Quote from: Jordan on May 28, 2019, 01:10:04 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 28, 2019, 01:07:21 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on May 28, 2019, 12:55:22 PM
I just go by feel...it if feels good I go for it.....wait lol

I might learn how to shallow stage this year.  Doing well being a noob though

I will teach you kemosabe. Very very simple to do. Really I pre stage and I roll into stage as slow as possible. As soon as I see the staged light flicker I know one more inch and I'm in. At the speeds of our cars you are talking most likely only .03-.05 tops in et. And I'm not even sure it's that much.



Haha, every hundredth counts when you are only a quarter second from the overall record

100% Jordan. I believe if memory serves me correct it takes 1 foot of rollout for your tire to break the beam. That's if you are staged shallow. Deep I believe you can get that down to roughly 6 inches. So again shallow will basically give you a running start. God I'm giving out all my drag racing secrets now  ;). I can really teach you guys how to fool your competitors eyes bracket racing too. But that could be a different thread lol.

Fooling bracket racers is easy.  Get out on them and pull the e brake right at 1200 feet. HEHE.


Funny story about. I nearly got tossed out of Moroso motorsports park (now palm beach raceway) roughly 15 years ago. I had a big block foxbody I used to bracket race. Car ran low 10's high 9's. Anyways I was out on a dragster and I had just replaced the 11 inch drums for wilwood discs on the rear. I smashed the peddle going through the lights locked up all 4 tires in a big cloud of smoke. Let's just say I got a strong talking to and the track manager nearly threw me out. I was told and I quote "we don't do that god damn Yankee drag racing down here." My 22 year old punk response "great I'm a Red Sox fan."

Haha, I did the same thing in my Nitrous Mustang.  The track manager scolded me too, and then told me to be smart about it.  He told me to push and hold the button and lift the hand brake, the brake lights won't engage.......Viola....blew my 21 year old mind.

I then showed my girl friend.  On motor the car ran 15.00 at 86 mph.  She was a bracket killer. She would leave at 5000 rpm and just start banging gears....better then me.
Title: Re: Lessons Learned & Memories Earned
Post by: shoNoff on May 28, 2019, 06:51:52 PM
Quote from: SM105K on May 28, 2019, 05:01:21 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 28, 2019, 04:39:11 PM
Quote from: SM105K on May 28, 2019, 02:39:37 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 28, 2019, 01:20:57 PM
Quote from: Jordan on May 28, 2019, 01:10:04 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 28, 2019, 01:07:21 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on May 28, 2019, 12:55:22 PM
I just go by feel...it if feels good I go for it.....wait lol

I might learn how to shallow stage this year.  Doing well being a noob though

I will teach you kemosabe. Very very simple to do. Really I pre stage and I roll into stage as slow as possible. As soon as I see the staged light flicker I know one more inch and I'm in. At the speeds of our cars you are talking most likely only .03-.05 tops in et. And I'm not even sure it's that much.



Haha, every hundredth counts when you are only a quarter second from the overall record

100% Jordan. I believe if memory serves me correct it takes 1 foot of rollout for your tire to break the beam. That's if you are staged shallow. Deep I believe you can get that down to roughly 6 inches. So again shallow will basically give you a running start. God I'm giving out all my drag racing secrets now  ;). I can really teach you guys how to fool your competitors eyes bracket racing too. But that could be a different thread lol.

Fooling bracket racers is easy.  Get out on them and pull the e brake right at 1200 feet. HEHE.


Funny story about. I nearly got tossed out of Moroso motorsports park (now palm beach raceway) roughly 15 years ago. I had a big block foxbody I used to bracket race. Car ran low 10's high 9's. Anyways I was out on a dragster and I had just replaced the 11 inch drums for wilwood discs on the rear. I smashed the peddle going through the lights locked up all 4 tires in a big cloud of smoke. Let's just say I got a strong talking to and the track manager nearly threw me out. I was told and I quote "we don't do that god damn Yankee drag racing down here." My 22 year old punk response "great I'm a Red Sox fan."

Haha, I did the same thing in my Nitrous Mustang.  The track manager scolded me too, and then told me to be smart about it.  He told me to push and hold the button and lift the hand brake, the brake lights won't engage.......Viola....blew my 21 year old mind.

I then showed my girl friend.  On motor the car ran 15.00 at 86 mph.  She was a bracket killer. She would leave at 5000 rpm and just start banging gears....better then me.

That's too funny man. The best bracket car I ever owned was a stock 90 lx hatchback automatic. The car legit ran 14.84 @ 91mph every single pass. That was until the AOD exploded like 6 times.
Title: Re: Lessons Learned & Memories Earned
Post by: 18SHO on May 28, 2019, 07:10:20 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 28, 2019, 06:51:52 PM
Quote from: SM105K on May 28, 2019, 05:01:21 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 28, 2019, 04:39:11 PM
Quote from: SM105K on May 28, 2019, 02:39:37 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 28, 2019, 01:20:57 PM
Quote from: Jordan on May 28, 2019, 01:10:04 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 28, 2019, 01:07:21 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on May 28, 2019, 12:55:22 PM
I just go by feel...it if feels good I go for it.....wait lol

I might learn how to shallow stage this year.  Doing well being a noob though

I will teach you kemosabe. Very very simple to do. Really I pre stage and I roll into stage as slow as possible. As soon as I see the staged light flicker I know one more inch and I'm in. At the speeds of our cars you are talking most likely only .03-.05 tops in et. And I'm not even sure it's that much.



Haha, every hundredth counts when you are only a quarter second from the overall record

100% Jordan. I believe if memory serves me correct it takes 1 foot of rollout for your tire to break the beam. That's if you are staged shallow. Deep I believe you can get that down to roughly 6 inches. So again shallow will basically give you a running start. God I'm giving out all my drag racing secrets now  ;). I can really teach you guys how to fool your competitors eyes bracket racing too. But that could be a different thread lol.

Fooling bracket racers is easy.  Get out on them and pull the e brake right at 1200 feet. HEHE.


Funny story about. I nearly got tossed out of Moroso motorsports park (now palm beach raceway) roughly 15 years ago. I had a big block foxbody I used to bracket race. Car ran low 10's high 9's. Anyways I was out on a dragster and I had just replaced the 11 inch drums for wilwood discs on the rear. I smashed the peddle going through the lights locked up all 4 tires in a big cloud of smoke. Let's just say I got a strong talking to and the track manager nearly threw me out. I was told and I quote "we don't do that god damn Yankee drag racing down here." My 22 year old punk response "great I'm a Red Sox fan."

Haha, I did the same thing in my Nitrous Mustang.  The track manager scolded me too, and then told me to be smart about it.  He told me to push and hold the button and lift the hand brake, the brake lights won't engage.......Viola....blew my 21 year old mind.

I then showed my girl friend.  On motor the car ran 15.00 at 86 mph.  She was a bracket killer. She would leave at 5000 rpm and just start banging gears....better then me.

That's too funny man. The best bracket car I ever owned was a stock 90 lx hatchback automatic. The car legit ran 14.84 @ 91mph every single pass. That was until the AOD exploded like 6 times.

My first ever car was at 14 years old a 85 mustang GT last year carburetor only had 63k orig miles, did some mods and when I turned 16 got my license off to the track. Had a manual 5 speed but s*** 2.73 rear gears ran 14.60 14.70 consistently and I got my first bracket trophy with it. Love the Fox bodies!
Title: Re: Lessons Learned & Memories Earned
Post by: shoNoff on May 28, 2019, 07:28:22 PM
Hahaha the old 2.73 gears. Could go 90mph in 2nd with a 5spd car lol. I love the 4 eye fox body. My favorite one by far. I had an 84 notchback for a long time. Wish I kept it. The only mod that automatic had was 4.10 gears. 3.55's or 3.73's were useless in the automatic.I've owned 14 foxbody's in the last 20 years. Love those cars, they don't stop, handle or go for s*** but man I love them.
Title: Re: Lessons Learned & Memories Earned
Post by: 18SHO on May 28, 2019, 07:31:27 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 28, 2019, 07:28:22 PM
Hahaha the old 2.73 gears. Could go 90mph in 2nd with a 5spd car lol. I love the 4 eye fox body. My favorite one by far. I had an 84 notchback for a long time. Wish I kept it. The only mod that automatic had was 4.10 gears. 3.55's or 3.73's were useless in the automatic.I've owned 14 foxbody's in the last 20 years. Love those cars, they don't stop, handle or go for s*** but man I love them.

Yea 2.73 gears were hilarious, i got 24 mpg on the highway carbureted v8 lol. They most certainly weren't the best handlers or stoppers but they looked good , sounded good but were fun as hell . I always tell everyone they are the best burnout car one can buy very very light in the rear with a solid rear axle . They did it , I did 1000 burnouts the first year I had my license
Title: Re: Lessons Learned & Memories Earned
Post by: 802SHO on May 29, 2019, 05:27:59 AM
Somewhere along the way, a lot of posts back I felt like a kid again sitting at a table while the grownups (ShoNoff, SM105K, 18SHO) are eating and having an "adult" conversation .....not knowing what they're saying so I just agree and nod my head, look for social cues to share in the laughter ...thinking maybe one day I'll have this knowledge and be able to understand what theyre saying........
Title: Re: Lessons Learned & Memories Earned
Post by: SHOdded on May 29, 2019, 06:43:41 AM
LOL.  Always something to learn, and somebody to learn from :D
Title: Re: Lessons Learned & Memories Earned
Post by: shoNoff on May 29, 2019, 08:22:06 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on May 29, 2019, 05:27:59 AM
Somewhere along the way, a lot of posts back I felt like a kid again sitting at a table while the grownups (ShoNoff, SM105K, 18SHO) are eating and having an "adult" conversation .....not knowing what they're saying so I just agree and nod my head, look for social cues to share in the laughter ...thinking maybe one day I'll have this knowledge and be able to understand what theyre saying........

Lmao to funny man.
Title: Re: Lessons Learned & Memories Earned
Post by: SM105K on May 29, 2019, 08:29:48 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on May 29, 2019, 05:27:59 AM
Somewhere along the way, a lot of posts back I felt like a kid again sitting at a table while the grownups (ShoNoff, SM105K, 18SHO) are eating and having an "adult" conversation .....not knowing what they're saying so I just agree and nod my head, look for social cues to share in the laughter ...thinking maybe one day I'll have this knowledge and be able to understand what theyre saying........

Blahaha shallow staging, fooling bracket racers, everyone had a Fox body. 

Mine was awesome.  1989 GT Convertible, 12 point cage, weighed 3800 with me in it.  Blew up the stock 5 speed, and put in a Turbo Coupe 5 speed.  1st and 2nd gear were short, 3rd gear was long.  Car had 3.73's and was a full suspension and bolt on car.  On the motor it made 186 hp and ran 15.00s at 86 mph all day with a 1.90 sixty.  On a 275 drag radial if you didnt leave at 5k it would bog. Timing was down, X cam, everything controlled by an Anderson PMS.  Both kits were run manually controlled by me.  One on the shifter, and one on the steering wheel.   

On the first kit (200 direct port fogger) it made 380ish hp and usually ran a 12.70 to 12.80 at 108 mph depending on the air.  I would cut a low 1.80 sixty.  I would use the direct port first because it was less violent then the Shark nozzle fogger. Drop the clutch grab the direct port fogger ASAP.

Next came the Shark Nozzle.  Stand alone fuel system, race fuel, ect. It was pilled at (225 most the time) and right when I would grab second, I would grab that fogger. Since I couldn't pill the direct port any bigger at the time (fuel restriction) and the fogger was too violent for first gear, my sixty foot on both kits was usually a mid 1.70 (my SHO has gone 1.77 to sixty lol).  With both kits, the car made 550 ish hp and would nip into the 10.70's and 10.80's at right around 126 mph.  Fastest it went was a perfect pass for me. I was early on the buttons between shifts and let the rpms hit higher in the shifts (somehow the Ram Clutch held) and it went 10.59 at 124.  Then i tried to replicate it, and blew a head gasket on a missed shift... lesson learned.

The look on people's faces, one pass 15.00, next pass 10.80....lol. When the GF learned how to use the Nitrous, I had to fight her to get out of the car......

     
Title: Re: Lessons Learned & Memories Earned
Post by: 18SHO on May 29, 2019, 11:47:29 AM
Quote from: SM105K on May 29, 2019, 08:29:48 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on May 29, 2019, 05:27:59 AM
Somewhere along the way, a lot of posts back I felt like a kid again sitting at a table while the grownups (ShoNoff, SM105K, 18SHO) are eating and having an "adult" conversation .....not knowing what they're saying so I just agree and nod my head, look for social cues to share in the laughter ...thinking maybe one day I'll have this knowledge and be able to understand what theyre saying........

Blahaha shallow staging, fooling bracket racers, everyone had a Fox body. 

Mine was awesome.  1989 GT Convertible, 12 point cage, weighed 3800 with me in it.  Blew up the stock 5 speed, and put in a Turbo Coupe 5 speed.  1st and 2nd gear were short, 3rd gear was long.  Car had 3.73's and was a full suspension and bolt on car.  On the motor it made 186 hp and ran 15.00s at 86 mph all day with a 1.90 sixty.  On a 275 drag radial if you didnt leave at 5k it would bog. Timing was down, X cam, everything controlled by an Anderson PMS.  Both kits were run manually controlled by me.  One on the shifter, and one on the steering wheel.   

On the first kit (200 direct port fogger) it made 380ish hp and usually ran a 12.70 to 12.80 at 108 mph depending on the air.  I would cut a low 1.80 sixty.  I would use the direct port first because it was less violent then the Shark nozzle fogger. Drop the clutch grab the direct port fogger ASAP.

Next came the Shark Nozzle.  Stand alone fuel system, race fuel, ect. It was pilled at (225 most the time) and right when I would grab second, I would grab that fogger. Since I couldn't pill the direct port any bigger at the time (fuel restriction) and the fogger was too violent for first gear, my sixty foot on both kits was usually a mid 1.70 (my SHO has gone 1.77 to sixty lol).  With both kits, the car made 550 ish hp and would nip into the 10.70's and 10.80's at right around 126 mph.  Fastest it went was a perfect pass for me. I was early on the buttons between shifts and let the rpms hit higher in the shifts (somehow the Ram Clutch held) and it went 10.59 at 124.  Then i tried to replicate it, and blew a head gasket on a missed shift... lesson learned.

The look on people's faces, one pass 15.00, next pass 10.80....lol. When the GF learned how to use the Nitrous, I had to fight her to get out of the car......

   

Nice man! That's awesome. Gotta love them cars.
Title: Re: Lessons Learned & Memories Earned
Post by: SM105K on May 29, 2019, 12:35:13 PM
Quote from: 18SHO on May 29, 2019, 11:47:29 AM
Quote from: SM105K on May 29, 2019, 08:29:48 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on May 29, 2019, 05:27:59 AM
Somewhere along the way, a lot of posts back I felt like a kid again sitting at a table while the grownups (ShoNoff, SM105K, 18SHO) are eating and having an "adult" conversation .....not knowing what they're saying so I just agree and nod my head, look for social cues to share in the laughter ...thinking maybe one day I'll have this knowledge and be able to understand what theyre saying........

Blahaha shallow staging, fooling bracket racers, everyone had a Fox body. 

Mine was awesome.  1989 GT Convertible, 12 point cage, weighed 3800 with me in it.  Blew up the stock 5 speed, and put in a Turbo Coupe 5 speed.  1st and 2nd gear were short, 3rd gear was long.  Car had 3.73's and was a full suspension and bolt on car.  On the motor it made 186 hp and ran 15.00s at 86 mph all day with a 1.90 sixty.  On a 275 drag radial if you didnt leave at 5k it would bog. Timing was down, X cam, everything controlled by an Anderson PMS.  Both kits were run manually controlled by me.  One on the shifter, and one on the steering wheel.   

On the first kit (200 direct port fogger) it made 380ish hp and usually ran a 12.70 to 12.80 at 108 mph depending on the air.  I would cut a low 1.80 sixty.  I would use the direct port first because it was less violent then the Shark nozzle fogger. Drop the clutch grab the direct port fogger ASAP.

Next came the Shark Nozzle.  Stand alone fuel system, race fuel, ect. It was pilled at (225 most the time) and right when I would grab second, I would grab that fogger. Since I couldn't pill the direct port any bigger at the time (fuel restriction) and the fogger was too violent for first gear, my sixty foot on both kits was usually a mid 1.70 (my SHO has gone 1.77 to sixty lol).  With both kits, the car made 550 ish hp and would nip into the 10.70's and 10.80's at right around 126 mph.  Fastest it went was a perfect pass for me. I was early on the buttons between shifts and let the rpms hit higher in the shifts (somehow the Ram Clutch held) and it went 10.59 at 124.  Then i tried to replicate it, and blew a head gasket on a missed shift... lesson learned.

The look on people's faces, one pass 15.00, next pass 10.80....lol. When the GF learned how to use the Nitrous, I had to fight her to get out of the car......

   

Nice man! That's awesome. Gotta love them cars.

I have 100% regret about selling that car, and my 93 MTX SHO.
Title: Re: Lessons Learned & Memories Earned
Post by: SHOdded on May 29, 2019, 12:40:51 PM
At least with the 93 SHO, you no longer have to worry about scrounging for parts LOL.  Getting harder to find by the minute.
Title: Re: Lessons Learned & Memories Earned
Post by: SM105K on May 29, 2019, 12:51:32 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on May 29, 2019, 12:40:51 PM
At least with the 93 SHO, you no longer have to worry about scrounging for parts LOL.  Getting harder to find by the minute.


I miss that car so much, however it killed me financially when I was a young service member.  Manu you are right, parts are becoming scarce. 
Title: Re: Lessons Learned & Memories Earned
Post by: shoNoff on May 29, 2019, 02:34:06 PM
That's good stuff with that foxbody SM105. Kind of reminds me of racin Jason car back in the day (god rest his soul). I also had a mtx sho as a kid. That friggin car cost me so much money. It was my winter car so I didn't have to drive my 5.0. I went through head gasket, heater core, clutch, axles and injector seals all in under a year. Loved that car hated the repair bills lol. I should dig up some of my old photos. I know I have the douchiest photo ever with me and like 6 bodies and our foxbodies from the mid 90's.
Title: Re: Lessons Learned & Memories Earned
Post by: SM105K on May 29, 2019, 03:54:26 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 29, 2019, 02:34:06 PM
That's good stuff with that foxbody SM105. Kind of reminds me of racin Jason car back in the day (god rest his soul). I also had a mtx sho as a kid. That friggin car cost me so much money. It was my winter car so I didn't have to drive my 5.0. I went through head gasket, heater core, clutch, axles and injector seals all in under a year. Loved that car hated the repair bills lol. I should dig up some of my old photos. I know I have the douchiest photo ever with me and like 6 bodies and our foxbodies from the mid 90's.

I miss both of those cars.  I bought the 93 in 05 and it was great for about 3 months.  I lost the radiator, driver axle, clutch, fuel pump, and then the dreaded diff pin.  Finally I was done after it chewed through my deployment savings. 

The 5.0 was my baby.  It was a riot and a handful to drive.  My buddy built it.  It had a 408 with a PT 76 and a powerglide.  He hurt the 408 and yanked the drivetrain and the car sat in the side yard for a year.  I was just joking one day and said...sell me the Mustang roller.  He said okay, and then proceed to tell me to bring him 1500 bucks because I was young and he liked me.   I did and bought a donor car, and we did a drivetrain swap in his driveway. For less then 5k and at age 21, I had a 10 second ride that I would drive anywhere.     
Title: Re: Lessons Learned & Memories Earned
Post by: shoNoff on May 29, 2019, 04:19:20 PM
God wish you lived closer we need to have a beer and talk cars lol. You were in the service you say? Well I thank you for your service.
Title: Re: Lessons Learned & Memories Earned
Post by: SM105K on May 29, 2019, 04:25:01 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 29, 2019, 04:19:20 PM
God wish you lived closer we need to have a beer and talk cars lol. You were in the service you say? Well I thank you for your service.

I like cars and beer.  I am a proud member of Uncle Sam's Misguided Children. Kilo Company 3/5 (2002-2006). Thank you.  I was telling Andrew some stories about being young and learning the rules of street racing. I have been fortunate and have been able to pilot numerous platforms.  Everything from Nitrous, to blown, to turbo...across all the manufacturers so...cars are my life. 
Title: Re: Lessons Learned & Memories Earned
Post by: ZSHO on May 29, 2019, 04:36:41 PM
Great discussion Fellas! Feel Free to start your own Topic! Z   :)
Title: Re: Lessons Learned & Memories Earned
Post by: SM105K on May 29, 2019, 04:42:10 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on May 29, 2019, 04:36:41 PM
Great discussion Fellas! Feel Free to start your own Topic! Z  :)

I agree, where could we put the topic of say "Got racing stories and old race cars?  Enter here!) Technically it wouldn't be "kill" stories....more like a fire side chat? What do you say Z?
Title: Re: Lessons Learned & Memories Earned
Post by: shoNoff on May 29, 2019, 04:43:27 PM
Hahaha oh yea I used to own and rockingham strip as we called it. I had an 87 notchback with a DSS 306ci small block. Also had a sneaky pete basically 50 shot on it. I ran stock ported heads so you couldn't tell. Also hid the nitrous lines up from the bottom of the intake. I swapped in a c4 for the speed. Car ran 12.2-12.0 on motor and ran the best of a 11.68 on the spray. It only weighed 2900lbs with me in it. It used to own the local street races. God I miss those days lol
Title: Re: Lessons Learned & Memories Earned
Post by: shoNoff on May 29, 2019, 04:44:17 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on May 29, 2019, 04:36:41 PM
Great discussion Fellas! Feel Free to start your own Topic! Z   :)

But Z we were having fun  ;)
Title: Re: Lessons Learned & Memories Earned
Post by: ZSHO on May 29, 2019, 04:51:36 PM
Quote from: SM105K on May 29, 2019, 04:42:10 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on May 29, 2019, 04:36:41 PM
Great discussion Fellas! Feel Free to start your own Topic! Z  :)

I agree, where could we put the topic of say "Got racing stories and old race cars?  Enter here!) Technically it wouldn't be "kill" stories....more like a fire side chat? What do you say Z?
Hmm!Sounds cool but Perhaps Manu can provide some better insight! Z
Title: Re: Lessons Learned & Memories Earned
Post by: SM105K on May 29, 2019, 04:52:22 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on May 29, 2019, 04:51:36 PM
Quote from: SM105K on May 29, 2019, 04:42:10 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on May 29, 2019, 04:36:41 PM
Great discussion Fellas! Feel Free to start your own Topic! Z  :)

I agree, where could we put the topic of say "Got racing stories and old race cars?  Enter here!) Technically it wouldn't be "kill" stories....more like a fire side chat? What do you say Z?
Hmm! Perhaps Manu can provide some better insight! Z


MANU!!!!!!!!!!   <-----pretty sure that will summon him faster....
Title: Re: Lessons Learned & Memories Earned
Post by: ZSHO on May 29, 2019, 04:59:21 PM
Quote from: SM105K on May 29, 2019, 04:52:22 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on May 29, 2019, 04:51:36 PM
Quote from: SM105K on May 29, 2019, 04:42:10 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on May 29, 2019, 04:36:41 PM
Great discussion Fellas! Feel Free to start your own Topic! Z  :)

I agree, where could we put the topic of say "Got racing stories and old race cars?  Enter here!) Technically it wouldn't be "kill" stories....more like a fire side chat? What do you say Z?
Hmm! Perhaps Manu can provide some better insight! Z


MANU!!!!!!!!!!   <-----pretty sure that will summon him faster....
Manu is Da man!  :) Maybe we can add an appropriate dedicated section if redeemed! Z
Title: Re: Lessons Learned & Memories Earned
Post by: SM105K on May 29, 2019, 05:08:53 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on May 29, 2019, 04:59:21 PM
Quote from: SM105K on May 29, 2019, 04:52:22 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on May 29, 2019, 04:51:36 PM
Quote from: SM105K on May 29, 2019, 04:42:10 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on May 29, 2019, 04:36:41 PM
Great discussion Fellas! Feel Free to start your own Topic! Z  :)

I agree, where could we put the topic of say "Got racing stories and old race cars?  Enter here!) Technically it wouldn't be "kill" stories....more like a fire side chat? What do you say Z?
Hmm! Perhaps Manu can provide some better insight! Z


MANU!!!!!!!!!!   <-----pretty sure that will summon him faster....
Manu is Da man!  :) Maybe we can add an appropriate dedicated section if redeemed! Z

He is DA MANu.....
Title: Re: Lessons Learned & Memories Earned
Post by: shoNoff on May 29, 2019, 05:10:11 PM
Looks what 2 idiots started now a whole section lol
Title: Re: Lessons Learned & Memories Earned
Post by: SM105K on May 29, 2019, 05:12:37 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 29, 2019, 05:10:11 PM
Looks what 2 idiots started now a whole section lol

I do resemble that remark......and I am okay with it. 
Title: Re: Lessons Learned & Memories Earned
Post by: SHOdded on May 29, 2019, 05:59:21 PM
Maybe a section under the Racing Department, kinda sorta like a Lounge, so we know it pertains particularly to stories and experiences with racing?
Title: Re: Lessons Learned & Memories Earned
Post by: shoNoff on May 29, 2019, 07:12:10 PM
Love it SHOdded great work.
Title: Re: Lessons Learned & Memories Earned
Post by: SM105K on May 30, 2019, 09:31:25 AM
Nice Shodded!  Good work.  I will go back in my messages with Andrew and post how I got my start in the Street Light to Street Light Grand Prix.
Title: Re: Lessons Learned & Memories Earned
Post by: jims2015 on May 30, 2019, 11:20:24 AM
I pre-date most of you guys. In the late 70's nitrous and turbos were virtually uncommon and by 1980 it was rare to find a showroom car that could break into the 13's. I had a C3 1976 vette. I built a 12.5 to one 406 small block along with a th400. I got one of the first nitrous systems around my part of the country. Car looked totally stock, right down to the quiet mufflers. I plumbed my own port nitrous and became king of the streets. Drag strip was for testing only clicking off 12.1's on street tires. Car Craft magazine got a hold of me and ended up featuring the car in the April 1983 issue. Following that, it was in several other Peterson Pub mags over the next couple of years. Unfortunately the publicity ruined my street income but no regrets on the memories.
Title: Re: Lessons Learned & Memories Earned
Post by: SM105K on May 30, 2019, 11:34:35 AM
Quote from: jims2015 on May 30, 2019, 11:20:24 AM
I pre-date most of you guys. In the late 70's nitrous and turbos were virtually uncommon and by 1980 it was rare to find a showroom car that could break into the 13's. I had a C3 1976 vette. I built a 12.5 to one 406 small block along with a th400. I got one of the first nitrous systems around my part of the country. Car looked totally stock, right down to the quiet mufflers. I plumbed my own port nitrous and became king of the streets. Drag strip was for testing only clicking off 12.1's on street tires. Car Craft magazine got a hold of me and ended up featuring the car in the April 1983 issue. Following that, it was in several other Peterson Pub mags over the next couple of years. Unfortunately the publicity ruined my street income but no regrets on the memories.

I love stories like this.  It is gentlemen like you that helped and paved the way for guys like me.  I just hope the aftermarket and manufacturers keep doing what they are doing, and the GOVT keeps their hands and noses out of the HP wars.
Title: Re: Lessons Learned & Memories Earned
Post by: SM105K on May 30, 2019, 01:32:39 PM
This is how I got my start into the wild streets of Mexico.

I have had three Fox Bodies. An 1988 Coupe the one in this story, 1989 Convertible (Two kit car), and a 1982 Capi. Along the way I picked up a 1993 SHO (my daily and she robbed me every chance she got).  Two Thunderbird SC's (one was built and a solid 13.4 car).  Then for past 8 years I have had two Twin Turbo E85 Camaro's. 

I used to street race a lot all through So Cal.  I know and have raced with and against some of the big hitters that you have seen on Street Outlaws when they raced the Cali guys.  I have been to numerous Compton Christmas Shootouts, and have won a money race on the World Famous 135th and Main. 

I purchased my 88 coupe and prompty overheated it and blew a head gasket.  When I was in there, I put an X cam, shorties, and full exhaust.  Put a drag radial on it and went to run the world.  First race a turbo Honda beat me.  I then put a wet nitrous kit on the car.  NX said do not put anything over a 150 shot it with a stock fuel
pump.  What do they know?  LOL.  Yep 100 shot was good all day.  Went back and beat the turbo Honda.  Pilled it to 150 and she was riding.  Pilled her to 175, and boom another head gasket.  Damn it. Fixed the HG, and back it down to a 125 shot. 

I was holding my own against the world....until I raced a older guy in a El Camino with a "396" in it.  I had taken my Mustang to the track and it went 12.80 and left pretty hard on the street.  I locked in a race with this guy for a couple of hundred dollars and he beat me by about half a car.  This is where the story gets good.  The guy in the El Camino says, that was close and you were pulling me on the big end want to run double or nothing?  I though about it, and before I opened my mouth another older gentlemen grabbed me and said no he doesn't.  Little did I know the El Camino had a 496 with two kits of nitrous that made over 800hp to the tire. It was a bottom 10 second car on a small drag radial on one kit.  He was just playing with me on motor.   

The guy that pulled me out of the double or nothing race ended up telling me the rules to street racing and has been a good friend of mine for over 17 years now. He is the guy that I would purchase my Convertible from.  Here are the rules that were passed to me.  1. Be weary about racing anyone that is 10 years older then you esp if they ask for the race.  Most of the time they have been there and done that and make more money. 2. If you lose a close race and you know there isn't much room for improvement, never re-race for double or nothing.  Most likely it is a trap and they are sandbagging you. 3. Never bet money you are not comfortable losing.  That's it.  Those rules have helped me win a lot of money over the years and saved me a bunch of money over the years.

I left a large car show here in AZ in the SHO and new ST with a loud blow off valve started messing with me.  It was a car full of kids, and the driver was looking to show off.  I rolled down my window at about a 20 mph roll and to told him, "no RS no care".  He laughed and said come on, and I told him to just "go".  I let him get out about five cars on me and reeled him quickly, and then yanked him.  The next stop light, he was like WTF?  I said, "it's just a Taurus, and to pull into the next parking lot". He showed me his ST, I showed him the SHO, and that I actually had a ST as my daily.  He just got quiet as his friends laughed.  I told him about the story with the Elco and then passed along the rules. They were pretty cool kids, and actually asked a lot of good questions.

I try to act like my friend and pass that knowledge along to the younger gearheads.  Riding high and mighty in a new ST with your buddies is great, I remember those days.  However, getting your s*** pushed in by my family car is something your friends will never let you forget about it.  I still catch crap from my friend about the Elco 17 years later.
Title: Re: Lessons Learned & Memories Earned
Post by: avidmotion on May 30, 2019, 09:54:39 PM
Love the stories but too tired to type out mine...I do have a collection of misc races with various cars I had, some pretty funny if you want I can post....
Title: Re: Lessons Learned & Memories Earned
Post by: SHOdded on May 30, 2019, 11:36:48 PM
Absolutely!  You can even start your own thread in this subforum if you think it will do it better justice.
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