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Title: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on April 30, 2019, 12:37:54 PM
Placed my order for GH turbos and intercooler today.  Just over 3,800 and 1,000 back upon returning cores.  Ordered my torque mounts today.  Have an appt on the 23rd to remove my 3rd cat and weld on another xpipe.  Also removing my tips and having them powder coated gloss black.  Have an appt on the 24th for turbo install.  Will need to place an order for all my oil and coolant lines.  More misc parts to come. 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on April 30, 2019, 01:02:54 PM
Like I told you earlier hell yea buddy! I can't wait to see this beast done in person at the track. Good luck with the build and if you need help I'm not to far away.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on April 30, 2019, 01:07:09 PM
Thank you Tim I really appreciate that!  So calling and texting my ideas late at night and early in the morning is ok?  Basically thats my interpretation lol!  Seriously though thank you! 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on April 30, 2019, 01:08:43 PM
Baby will be here soon buddy I'll be up all hours lol. Seriously Andrew anything you need I'll try to help.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on April 30, 2019, 03:52:10 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on April 30, 2019, 12:37:54 PM
Placed my order for GH turbos and intercooler today.  Just over 3,800 and 1,000 back upon returning cores.  Ordered my torque mounts today.  Have an appt on the 23rd to remove my 3rd cat and weld on another xpipe.  Also removing my tips and having them powder coated gloss black.  Have an appt on the 24th for turbo install.  Will need to place an order for all my oil and coolant lines.  More misc parts to come.

Oh snap...we are going to see a 10 second pass.....
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 18SHO on April 30, 2019, 05:25:16 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on April 30, 2019, 12:37:54 PM
Placed my order for GH turbos and intercooler today.  Just over 3,800 and 1,000 back upon returning cores.  Ordered my torque mounts today.  Have an appt on the 23rd to remove my 3rd cat and weld on another xpipe.  Also removing my tips and having them powder coated gloss black.  Have an appt on the 24th for turbo install.  Will need to place an order for all my oil and coolant lines.  More misc parts to come.

Hell yea man can't wait to see what you put out in New England dragway this year! Possibly another record holder yet to come
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: ZSHO on April 30, 2019, 06:22:24 PM
It sounds like its going to be a Helluva of a year 802SHO and for many members here @ the E.B.P.F ! Looking forward to your new setup and more! Z  :alkashi: 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on April 30, 2019, 08:13:38 PM
Thanks guys!  I don't think I will be setting any records other than personal ones but if course if theres a will theres a way! 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 01, 2019, 01:28:10 PM
Ordered a set of hot pipes with factory BOV mounts, meth bung and no coating.  My plan is to install the intercooler and hot pipes before my turbo install so when I get them installed its all more or less ready for some serious tuning!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 02, 2019, 05:09:35 AM
Got the gen2 torque mounts last night!  That was quick!  Also changed my hot pipes order to include another meth bung and will change from my single nozzle set up to two. 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 02, 2019, 05:28:38 AM
Ordered a set of SP542 off Z's RockAuto link! 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 02, 2019, 05:51:18 AM
Now this is something I've wanted for a long time.  It's just the price is outrageous to me and wishing the price to come down didn't work....but what I absolutely love about this emblem from Billet Badges is that it's completely blacked out BUT the Ford letters are engraved and easy to read.  What I don't like about trying to completely black out our ovals is that it will look like just a blank black oval which looks odd to me.  I didn't want to pay $115 including shipping for an emblem but I have never seen this on anyone's vehicle and it will complete my blacked out look!  It is just that little touch that IMO goes a long way in separating your own personal vehicle from the rest.  Can't wait to get this on along with my tips getting blacked out!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on May 02, 2019, 10:09:05 AM
Geez between you and SBS, yall making moves.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: TopherSho on May 02, 2019, 01:57:48 PM
Quote from: SM105K on May 02, 2019, 10:09:05 AM
Geez between you and SBS, yall making moves.

Right?  wth is all that money coming from :P   me and my hopefully 12.5 second car are starting to feel old and slow as crap ..
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on May 02, 2019, 02:29:14 PM
Quote from: TopherSho on May 02, 2019, 01:57:48 PM
Quote from: SM105K on May 02, 2019, 10:09:05 AM
Geez between you and SBS, yall making moves.

Right?  wth is all that money coming from :P   me and my hopefully 12.5 second car are starting to feel old and slow as crap ..

I am over here still trying to crack 400 awhp lol.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shaundizzle15 on May 02, 2019, 02:36:43 PM
802 did you get a badge for front and rear or just front? I also love the look of their badges and have thought about it. The rear badge seems tricky with the camera housing. Keep us posted!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SHOdded on May 02, 2019, 03:21:05 PM
Quote from: TopherSho on May 02, 2019, 01:57:48 PM
Right?  wth is all that money coming from :P   me and my hopefully 12.5 second car are starting to feel old and slow as crap ..
Quote from: SM105K on May 02, 2019, 02:29:14 PM
I am over here still trying to crack 400 awhp lol.
Sounds like we need to start a "No SHO Left Behind" support group for you guys :P
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 02, 2019, 05:39:04 PM
I've been laying in wait muahahahaha
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 02, 2019, 05:42:03 PM
Quote from: shaundizzle15 on May 02, 2019, 02:36:43 PM
802 did you get a badge for front and rear or just front? I also love the look of their badges and have thought about it. The rear badge seems tricky with the camera housing. Keep us posted!

Just rear I don't have a front badge in my custom grille and those badges also can be ordered for a camera....i was just telling ShoNoff that my SHO doesn't have a back up camera which is really weeeiirrddd
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shaundizzle15 on May 02, 2019, 05:58:42 PM
Thanks, and yes that is weird and unfortunate, pretty sure you can add one. How do you remove the rear badge ?
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 02, 2019, 08:09:22 PM
I thought about adding one but I'd rather spend my money elsewhere.  The SHO would have been my first back up camera anyhow.  My stock one was glued on. Its not too hard to take that rear trim piece off either you can easily access from the inside just remove the liner.  Theres clips you can slowly pry one by one and it also has some double sided tape helping hold it in place but that peels up pretty easy.  So for me I'll just heat it up and peel it off, put the new one on...if it doesn't come with anything I'll 3m tape it on.when I do it I'll take pics
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on May 02, 2019, 09:07:48 PM
Quote from: TopherSho on May 02, 2019, 01:57:48 PM
Quote from: SM105K on May 02, 2019, 10:09:05 AM
Geez between you and SBS, yall making moves.

Right?  wth is all that money coming from :P   me and my hopefully 12.5 second car are starting to feel old and slow as crap ..

How do you think I feel I actually have to go to the track WITH him. :help:
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: Agentlongwood on May 02, 2019, 10:51:09 PM
12.5 sounds pretty dang fast.  I'm stuck at a best of 13.0 and only when it was 45 degrees out, lol.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: StealBlueSho on May 02, 2019, 11:27:18 PM
Congrats! Excited to see the new numbers!

Matt and I have been working together the past couple days on some really cutting edge stuff in the tuning department.

You will for sure be in good hands!

When are you scheduling the install?


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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 03, 2019, 05:02:36 AM
Thanks!  The install is scheduled for the 24th and I'm sure I won't get it back until the 25th.  I dont have dyno numbers of the set up I have now.  There isn't an AWD dyno here that has mechanically linked rollers, there is one that is a hub dyno but the shop is odd, never has returned any of my calls and Ive left a couple voicemails.  I would prefer to do a dyno before and after GH turbos, intercooler and second meth nozzle.  I will have before and after track slips that's for sure. 

I did find a dyno in NH I plan to use post install but at the moment I'm trying to plan something at a different dyno.  Hopefully that works out or I'll end up at the one I found in NH, Granite State Dyno & Tune. 

The plan right now is to use GH's complimentary base tune to accomodate the new turbos and intercooler to get me going.  GH is certainly a tuner I would run with as they clearly have a grasp on this platform seeing how they developed the turbos and intercooler but I'm resisting that idea.  I'm inclined to believe GH has the best strategy for tuning their turbos and intercooler however I'm not counting my buddy AJP out so I've reached out to Brad and Ive got a plan in the works that I hope turns out.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 03, 2019, 05:59:07 AM
Quote from: Agentlongwood on May 02, 2019, 10:51:09 PM
12.5 sounds pretty dang fast.  I'm stuck at a best of 13.0 and only when it was 45 degrees out, lol.

Take the dang stroller and kid seats out !  😄
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 03, 2019, 06:01:21 AM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 02, 2019, 09:07:48 PM
Quote from: TopherSho on May 02, 2019, 01:57:48 PM
Quote from: SM105K on May 02, 2019, 10:09:05 AM
Geez between you and SBS, yall making moves.

Right?  wth is all that money coming from :P   me and my hopefully 12.5 second car are starting to feel old and slow as crap ..

How do you think I feel I actually have to go to the track WITH him. :help:

Got you covered there buddy how about you drive! 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 07, 2019, 01:10:27 PM
Cut my tips off last night and dropped them off to Vermont Powdercoating.  Decided to go matte black instead of gloss.  Sp542 plugs showed up.  Still waiting on my badge from Billet Badges.  GH turbos and intercooler should be here later in the week.  Placed my order with TascaFord parts for all new turbo oil and coolant lines along with a brand new rear reinforcement bar.  Also placed an order today with Alky Control for new pump and dual nozzle upgrade.  Mike @ EPP said the intercooler to throttle body pipe is 1-2 weeks out so hopefully I will be able to install them before the 24th when the turbos go on.  Also ordered another trans cooler by Derale.  16 row cooler that I'm going to also mount on my front impact bar, but I will also delete my grille mesh, the cooler is black so it should look pretty mean with a grille delete with the added cooler on display.  I want to change up my front spoiler.  A sheet of 3/8 abs plastic will be plenty to make a custom front splitter with rods.  I want the front end to look like one mean mother*****r.  Items all add up and getting pricey...thats about all for now.  Just sit back and wait for them to show up then it's time to install everything myself except turbos. 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on May 07, 2019, 01:12:42 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on May 07, 2019, 01:10:27 PM
Cut my tips off last night and dropped them off to Vermont Powdercoating.  Decided to go matte black instead of gloss.  Sp542 plugs showed up.  Still waiting on my badge from Billet Badges.  GH turbos and intercooler should be here later in the week.  Placed my order with TascaFord parts for all new turbo oil and coolant lines along with a brand new rear reinforcement bar.  Also placed an order today with Alky Control for new pump and dual nozzle upgrade.  Mike @ EPP said the intercooler to throttle body pipe is 1-2 weeks out so hopefully I will be able to install them before the 24th when the turbos go on.  Also ordered another trans cooler by Derale.  16 row cooler that I'm going to also mount on my front impact bar, but I will also delete my grille mesh, the cooler is black so it should look pretty mean with a grille delete with the added cooler on display.  I want to change up my front spoiler.  A sheet of 3/8 abs plastic will be plenty to make a custom front splitter with rods.  I want the front end to look like one mean mother*****r.  Items all add up and getting pricey...thats about all for now.  Just sit back and wait for them to show up then it's time to install everything myself except turbos.

Sitting over here....wishing I was going down this path as well.  Soon.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 07, 2019, 01:18:38 PM
If it wasn't for that trans issue you would be.  Hard to bullet proof it...just adding another cooler and hoping for the best.  I drove it a hair over 3,000 miles last year...if I can get 5,000 fun miles out of it this year with no issues I'll be stoked!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on May 07, 2019, 03:06:11 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on May 07, 2019, 01:18:38 PM
If it wasn't for that trans issue you would be.  Hard to bullet proof it...just adding another cooler and hoping for the best.  I drove it a hair over 3,000 miles last year...if I can get 5,000 fun miles out of it this year with no issues I'll be stoked!

That is the game we play.  I am looking right at 3000 miles this year too.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on May 07, 2019, 03:38:26 PM
Looking good Andrew loving the mod list buddy. If baby boy wasnt coming and this s*** wasn't my daily I'd be right there with you. Again buddy you need a hand with anything give me a call.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: Jordan on May 07, 2019, 04:56:48 PM
Dang y'all barely driving! Sounds like you got a heck of a build coming!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: StealBlueSho on May 07, 2019, 05:20:58 PM
Exciting stuff!! You won't be disappointed! I have contemplated grabbing another Alky kit... but ultimately decided against it for now. With E30 I'm already at the limit of the stock block. Do you not have e85 by you?

Matt should have the drop in LPFP kit soon which will help, and in planning on it.. just an FYI


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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: StealBlueSho on May 07, 2019, 05:34:02 PM
Exciting stuff!! You won't be disappointed! I have contemplated grabbing another Alky kit... but ultimately decided against it for now. With E30 I'm already at the limit of the stock block. Do you not have e85 by you?

Matt should have the drop in LPFP kit soon which will help, and in planning on it.. just an FYI


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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 07, 2019, 08:37:58 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on May 07, 2019, 05:20:58 PM
Exciting stuff!! You won't be disappointed! I have contemplated grabbing another Alky kit... but ultimately decided against it for now. With E30 I'm already at the limit of the stock block. Do you not have e85 by you?

Matt should have the drop in LPFP kit soon which will help, and in planning on it.. just an FYI


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I'm excited...a little nervous too which is probably a good thing bc that translates to more precautions.  Gotta respect the beast. 

I don't have any E85 available to me.  I like to get the most out of my setup and eblends are proven more powerful than 93...but I would have to supply myself with barrels...ive considered it but I dont think I could maintain that level of performance on a regular basis...idea of storing fuel at home in large amounts isnt exactly ideal. 

I wanted to add a HPFP, specifically the XDI pump but I bit the bullet and decided to pay for turbo install and I underestimated the cost of replacing the oil and coolant lines.  More or less the price for the HPFP right there.  The downside of not getting exactly everything I want all at once is adding them slowly in the future and giving me more excuses to hit the track and update my best track time. 

I have a vision for my car, specifically how it will look aesthetically along with how it will perform so I hope I can turn my vision into reality in the next 2-3 weeks. 

I was hoping for it to be completed sooner as I really would like to attend Ford Nationals.  Not that I still can't go but to go without my car wouldn't be ideal.  Of course it would be cool to meet up with some of you guys, put faces to names and just enjoy the event.

We'll see.
Title: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: StealBlueSho on May 07, 2019, 08:51:50 PM
Luckily the shop said my lines looked good... they cleaned them when they took them off... said there was no reason to replace them. I was prepared for the hit though...

My qualm with bigger turbos and meth without a HPFP on a stock motor would be if the meth fails during a run, chances are high it's gonna blow if it's meth dependent.

Matt's 93 tune works well on the bigger turbos... it's also auto octane so it's a robust tune. He did tell me a small amount of meth would help with that tune though, so I'm sure he won't make you meth dependent.

Nationals was a blast last year. Hoping I can make it again, but with the house for sale I have no clue what my schedule is gonna look like..... highly recommend going though.


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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 07, 2019, 09:06:53 PM
Yeah you're lucky you didn't have to replace the lines but you really shouldn't have needed to, with it being a 16 and low mileage...I think if you would have needed to it would have been surprising.  I'm at 72k and yeah I haven't really driven it in the snow much past the 1st year of ownership but the previous owner did for sure.  Even if I didn't need to replace mine I would want to...they have surface rust on them and a bit unsightly...up against New turbos..heck no!  Chris from GH said yeah replace them and they will be good for an easy 70k more.  I'm replacing my meth pump and I haven't had any issues yet so knock on wood with the new pump and turbos. 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on May 07, 2019, 09:23:48 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on May 07, 2019, 05:34:02 PM
Exciting stuff!! You won't be disappointed! I have contemplated grabbing another Alky kit... but ultimately decided against it for now. With E30 I'm already at the limit of the stock block. Do you not have e85 by you?

Matt should have the drop in LPFP kit soon which will help, and in planning on it.. just an FYI


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No we have no corn up by us it sucks monkey balls.


I'll buy an hpfp. We can yank the b*tch off my car at the track for a glory run for you buddy. Lol
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 07, 2019, 09:28:13 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 07, 2019, 09:23:48 PM
I'll buy an hpfp. We can yank the b*tch off my car at the track for a glory run for you buddy. Lol

Heck yeah buddy!   Good for at least one glory run this year you can count on that!  Lol maybe I should do dual meth pumps!  Who has done that? 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 10, 2019, 07:41:44 PM
Turbos arrived, Intercooler and my Derale trans cooler.  Starting to get excited!  My Ford Emblem from Billet Badges finally got here but I wasn't here and I had to sign for it?  Just under 4,000 left on my door step but I have to sign for an emblem?  Lol that's ridiculous.  Hopefully I get it tomorrow
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 18SHO on May 11, 2019, 07:56:07 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on May 10, 2019, 07:41:44 PM
Turbos arrived, Intercooler and my Derale trans cooler.  Starting to get excited!  My Ford Emblem from Billet Badges finally got here but I wasn't here and I had to sign for it?  Just under 4,000 left on my door step but I have to sign for an emblem?  Lol that's ridiculous.  Hopefully I get it tomorrow

Another car going to haul ass! Everyone needs to do a 0to 120 dig and post it lol
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 11, 2019, 09:48:43 AM
I agree!  I will after I'm all dialed in.  Not to the video quality of Jordan though!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on May 11, 2019, 12:08:55 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on May 10, 2019, 07:41:44 PM
Turbos arrived, Intercooler and my Derale trans cooler.  Starting to get excited!  My Ford Emblem from Billet Badges finally got here but I wasn't here and I had to sign for it?  Just under 4,000 left on my door step but I have to sign for an emblem?  Lol that's ridiculous.  Hopefully I get it tomorrow

Good thing they had a signature. I know a guy in NH that would steal that in a second off your doorstep.


Quote from: 802SHO on May 11, 2019, 09:48:43 AM
I agree!  I will after I'm all dialed in.  Not to the video quality of Jordan though!

Ive got some cameras buddy. I also know a good camera man that seems to be everywhere a SHO is. Might not be Jordan quality but we will do ok for a couple hicks from NH and VT. lol
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: StealBlueSho on May 11, 2019, 12:10:03 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 11, 2019, 12:08:55 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on May 10, 2019, 07:41:44 PM
Turbos arrived, Intercooler and my Derale trans cooler.  Starting to get excited!  My Ford Emblem from Billet Badges finally got here but I wasn't here and I had to sign for it?  Just under 4,000 left on my door step but I have to sign for an emblem?  Lol that's ridiculous.  Hopefully I get it tomorrow

Good thing they had a signature. I know a guy in NH that would steal that in a second off your doorstep.


Quote from: 802SHO on May 11, 2019, 09:48:43 AM
I agree!  I will after I'm all dialed in.  Not to the video quality of Jordan though!

Ive got some cameras buddy. I also know a good camera man that seems to be everywhere a SHO is. lol

Know one in NoVA or MD? Lol... asking for a friend.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on May 11, 2019, 12:12:14 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on May 11, 2019, 12:10:03 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 11, 2019, 12:08:55 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on May 10, 2019, 07:41:44 PM
Turbos arrived, Intercooler and my Derale trans cooler.  Starting to get excited!  My Ford Emblem from Billet Badges finally got here but I wasn't here and I had to sign for it?  Just under 4,000 left on my door step but I have to sign for an emblem?  Lol that's ridiculous.  Hopefully I get it tomorrow

Good thing they had a signature. I know a guy in NH that would steal that in a second off your doorstep.


Quote from: 802SHO on May 11, 2019, 09:48:43 AM
I agree!  I will after I'm all dialed in.  Not to the video quality of Jordan though!

Ive got some cameras buddy. I also know a good camera man that seems to be everywhere a SHO is. lol

Know one in NoVA or MD? Lol... asking for a friend.

Im not joking he would come and film if he thought a record was being set. Hell I might even make the drive its not that far for me. lol
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: StealBlueSho on May 11, 2019, 12:15:17 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 11, 2019, 12:12:14 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on May 11, 2019, 12:10:03 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 11, 2019, 12:08:55 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on May 10, 2019, 07:41:44 PM
Turbos arrived, Intercooler and my Derale trans cooler.  Starting to get excited!  My Ford Emblem from Billet Badges finally got here but I wasn't here and I had to sign for it?  Just under 4,000 left on my door step but I have to sign for an emblem?  Lol that's ridiculous.  Hopefully I get it tomorrow

Good thing they had a signature. I know a guy in NH that would steal that in a second off your doorstep.


Quote from: 802SHO on May 11, 2019, 09:48:43 AM
I agree!  I will after I'm all dialed in.  Not to the video quality of Jordan though!

Ive got some cameras buddy. I also know a good camera man that seems to be everywhere a SHO is. lol

Know one in NoVA or MD? Lol... asking for a friend.

Im not joking he would come and film if he thought a record was being set. Hell I might even make the drive its not that far for me. lol

I make the drive from Virginia to Exeter, NH once a year or so to see my in-laws... its not a cheap nor quick drive my friend... if you can hit NY and CT without getting stuck in traffic usually its about 10 hours... if you get stuck in NY or CT... quickly turns into a 12+hr drive..
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on May 11, 2019, 12:46:53 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on May 11, 2019, 12:15:17 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 11, 2019, 12:12:14 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on May 11, 2019, 12:10:03 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 11, 2019, 12:08:55 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on May 10, 2019, 07:41:44 PM
Turbos arrived, Intercooler and my Derale trans cooler.  Starting to get excited!  My Ford Emblem from Billet Badges finally got here but I wasn't here and I had to sign for it?  Just under 4,000 left on my door step but I have to sign for an emblem?  Lol that's ridiculous.  Hopefully I get it tomorrow

Good thing they had a signature. I know a guy in NH that would steal that in a second off your doorstep.


Quote from: 802SHO on May 11, 2019, 09:48:43 AM
I agree!  I will after I'm all dialed in.  Not to the video quality of Jordan though!

Ive got some cameras buddy. I also know a good camera man that seems to be everywhere a SHO is. lol

Know one in NoVA or MD? Lol... asking for a friend.

Im not joking he would come and film if he thought a record was being set. Hell I might even make the drive its not that far for me. lol

I make the drive from Virginia to Exeter, NH once a year or so to see my in-laws... its not a cheap nor quick drive my friend... if you can hit NY and CT without getting stuck in traffic usually its about 10 hours... if you get stuck in NY or CT... quickly turns into a 12+hr drive..

I used to drag race all over the country. Especially in NHRA division 1 and 2. Ive made the trek several times. Usually in a motorhome though lol. On a separate note Exeter is legit 10 minutes from where I live and the town right next to New England Dragway. I smell us meeting up lol.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 11, 2019, 02:50:47 PM
My best friend lived in Richmond VA years ago, I've made that trip so many times, usually about 11 hours with one fuel/bathroom stop!  It would be cool for us to meet up!  I mean...if you're coming this way anyway....but the purpose is the in-laws...if you could sneak away for a night that it also happens to be not raining..would be awesome! 
Title: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: StealBlueSho on May 12, 2019, 12:45:48 PM
Would be awesome! I never take the SHO up though... mainly cause the wear and tear on 95 is brutal!

Maybe make an exception though :-)

Next time I'm up that way I will send a PM..
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on May 12, 2019, 03:49:04 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on May 12, 2019, 12:45:48 PM
Would be awesome! I never take the SHO up though... mainly cause the wear and tear on 95 is brutal!

Maybe make an exception though :-)

Next time I'm up that way I will send a PM..

Argh 95 is a s*** show. Every once in a blue moon my wife has to take my car to work. She works down off 95 I cringe every time. Yea send a pm even if you don't have the sho maybe we can all meet up somewhere.  :beer2:
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SHOdded on May 12, 2019, 03:51:51 PM
I don't know WHAT you guys are complaining about.  On 95 it's like I don't have to wait for a day at the track :D
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 12, 2019, 09:02:14 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on May 12, 2019, 03:51:51 PM
I don't know WHAT you guys are complaining about.  On 95 it's like I don't have to wait for a day at the track :D

Haha well I havent been down 95 in quite sometime...dont remember it being that ###ty but I bet it's changed.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SHOdded on May 12, 2019, 11:34:32 PM
You should come drive on Rt 29 if you think 95 is bad :D
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 13, 2019, 05:34:09 AM
By comparison 95 must be better!  Rt29 wins as the crapiest road!  Lol and is crapiest even a word?
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: bpd1151 on May 13, 2019, 07:03:32 AM
"Craptastic" is a good alternative, if "crapiest" doesn't suffice. LOL

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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 21, 2019, 06:58:43 PM
Update:  Next few days I should have my car well along the way.  New 2.5" stainless xpipe came in which will finally get my 3rd cat out of the equation and 4"quad tips are back from powder coat and ready for install Thursday.  Still on schedule for GH turbos and new oil/coolant lines installed for Friday into Saturday.  Between now and Thursday, need to install my GH intercooler, sp542 plugs, oil change and swap out my used Alky pump with my new pump.  I also picked up another small tank to redo the small tank that has my windshield washer fluid in it....been wanting to do a better job on that.  Picked up a sheet of 1/4 abs plastic.  It's expensive here, I wanted 3\8 but a sheet was 291?  No thanks.  Picked up 1/4 and will make my splitter out of that to add to my front chin spoiler.  Got some FTR splitter rods coming.  I won't tackle that until my rear reinforcement bar finally shows up.  Tasca forgot to send it with my order.  I bought some hubcentric 1" spacers and will have to modify the rear inner wheel well liner mounting locations so my rear tires don't rub.  I had the 1" spacers before briefly and it rubbed there over bumps, but I really liked the look and I'll have the rear bumper off anyway replacing the reinforcement bar so no better time than to modify it eliminate rubbing.  Got my billet badge in and it looks great.  Can't wait for it to be done. 

Still waiting on my hot pipes so I'll install them along with my dual meth nozzle upgrade at the same time and add my Derale trans cooler, do a drain and fill with the transmission fluid.  Waiting on another pale of VP M1 too so I won't be spraying any meth until that comes in which should be here this week. 

I'm sort of mad I'm so busy with work bc I don't have the time I want to spend with my SHO but ...it will be done eventually. 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on May 22, 2019, 09:15:02 AM
Good stuff, keep rolling.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on May 23, 2019, 08:00:15 AM
Hell yea buddy coming along nicely.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 23, 2019, 11:49:18 AM
Got the new GH IC installed last night!  What a pain those lower radiator hose clamps....uuuuuuuggggghhhhhhh I get 😠 when I spend A LOT of time on little things like that!  Alky pump was very much in the way, thankfully I was slated to swap it out anyway as the original had to be dismounted.  Everything went fairly smooth minus those hose clips.  I changed the oil and went local so I got Royal Purple High Performance oil not the HPS and a K&N filter 2011.  Drained all the radiator fluid, well most of it and replaced with some valvoline 16.99 a gallon stuff.  It was rhe most expensive and said Ford so I went with that lol!  No flush this time around just new coolant and topped it off with Royal Purple ICE.  Jacked passenger side up and burped her 3+ times.  Didn't get my plugs changed over from SP534 to SP542 yet.  The 534's only have 3k on them so I will be fine in the interim. 

First drive today since October 2018!  Dropped it off for exhaust work.  Looks goofy with no exhaust tips and front chin spoiler missing. 

Boy was it nice to hear her purr and enjoy the ride to the shop.  Coolant temp hovering at 170-180 plenty of heat, no leaks, purged my new meth pump no issues, no leaks.  Starting off the year right. 


(https://i.imgur.com/aoZmZloh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/bAPLkG6h.jpg)
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on May 23, 2019, 12:04:26 PM
Yeah buddy.  Thank intercooler is flat out gold.  Cant wait see what your car is going to do.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SHOdded on May 23, 2019, 01:08:37 PM
Just glad to see new parts being developed, and proving out nicely in the field.  A big thumbs up to GearHead.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 23, 2019, 04:04:05 PM
Yes sir GearHead has done an amazing job with both the intercooler and turbos.  Its one thing to see a picture of the GH upgraded IC next to the stock IC but when you have them right in front of you, can see the difference, feel the difference......it really sinks in like....unbelievable!  No wonder our cars hear soak so much and easily....the stock IC is laughable at best!

Should have installed my torque mounts last night!  I forgot I had them lol

Pics of the new exhaust that is finally complete...doube x pipe 2.5" stainless turbos back!  Butttt looks like he saved a smidgen of the 3rd cat to save the flanges DOOHHH!!!!!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 23, 2019, 04:15:14 PM
Quite a bit louder he said 🤘😈YES!   One xpipe but two?  Plus the quad tips just magnify everything 😂 neighbors will hate me....MORE
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on May 23, 2019, 04:38:55 PM
Cars looks ridiculous without your chin spoiler lol. Coming along nicely buddy!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: ZSHO on May 23, 2019, 05:44:34 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on May 23, 2019, 11:49:18 AM
Got the new GH IC installed last night!  What a pain those lower radiator hose clamps....uuuuuuuggggghhhhhhh I get 😠 when I spend A LOT of time on little things like that!  Alky pump was very much in the way, thankfully I was slated to swap it out anyway as the original had to be dismounted.  Everything went fairly smooth minus those hose clips.  I changed the oil and went local so I got Royal Purple High Performance oil not the HPS and a K&N filter 2011.  Drained all the radiator fluid, well most of it and replaced with some valvoline 16.99 a gallon stuff.  It was rhe most expensive and said Ford so I went with that lol!  No flush this time around just new coolant and topped it off with Royal Purple ICE.  Jacked passenger side up and burped her 3+ times.  Didn't get my plugs changed over from SP534 to SP542 yet.  The 534's only have 3k on them so I will be fine in the interim. 

First drive today since October 2018!  Dropped it off for exhaust work.  Looks goofy with no exhaust tips and front chin spoiler missing. 

Boy was it nice to hear her purr and enjoy the ride to the shop.  Coolant temp hovering at 170-180 plenty of heat, no leaks, purged my new meth pump no issues, no leaks.  Starting off the year right. 


(https://i.imgur.com/aoZmZloh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/bAPLkG6h.jpg)
Looking Good 802SHO! Keep it coming!  :thumb:  BTW Fixed the ^^^ PIC for ya. Z  :)
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 23, 2019, 08:41:08 PM
Picked up the car and boy does she sound hoggish!  No sound bites yet.

Dropped off to another shop awaiting turbo install.  AJP instructed me to detune back a bit bc of the increase in air flow to side with caution until we start the tuning process.  Back to 3bar, 93 octane 14 psi base tune.  Meth not necessary but I'll leave it activated as a precautionary measure.  Worst case I run slightly rich. 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on May 24, 2019, 09:27:29 AM
Get a LiveWire homie, your life will change.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: ridered74 on May 24, 2019, 09:52:23 AM
Can't wait to see what it runs at the track!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 24, 2019, 12:54:38 PM
Quote from: SM105K on May 24, 2019, 09:27:29 AM
Get a LiveWire homie, your life will change.

Well I have the Interceptor scan gauge.  I can monitor just about everything too.  It plugs right into my OBD2 port.  Its basically the same except I can only display two at a time where you can display 6?  Correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on May 24, 2019, 01:02:21 PM
Sm105k always pushing the livewire. Making me feel inadequate with my BDX.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on May 24, 2019, 01:29:29 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on May 24, 2019, 12:54:38 PM
Quote from: SM105K on May 24, 2019, 09:27:29 AM
Get a LiveWire homie, your life will change.

Well I have the Interceptor scan gauge.  I can monitor just about everything too.  It plugs right into my OBD2 port.  Its basically the same except I can only display two at a time where you can display 6?  Correct me if I'm wrong.

You are wrong good buddy.  Any PID can be uploaded and I monitor 9 PID's in real time.  It displays mins and maxes for that key cycle, and I can set alarms for various things.  Coolant too hot?  Boom alarm sound.  Trans temp too hight?  Boom Alarm.....

Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on May 24, 2019, 01:30:14 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 24, 2019, 01:02:21 PM
Sm105k always pushing the livewire. Making me feel inadequate with my BDX.

The way I flog mine, I want to know everything that is going on in real time. 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on May 24, 2019, 02:49:06 PM
Quote from: SM105K on May 24, 2019, 01:30:14 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 24, 2019, 01:02:21 PM
Sm105k always pushing the livewire. Making me feel inadequate with my BDX.

The way I flog mine, I want to know everything that is going on in real time.

I do it like I do it at home. With my eyes closed pretending it's someone else doing it.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on May 24, 2019, 02:59:05 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 24, 2019, 02:49:06 PM
Quote from: SM105K on May 24, 2019, 01:30:14 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 24, 2019, 01:02:21 PM
Sm105k always pushing the livewire. Making me feel inadequate with my BDX.

The way I flog mine, I want to know everything that is going on in real time.

I do it like I do it at home. With my eyes closed pretending it's someone else doing it.

My man, you truly don't understand the gravity of the situation until you have sat on your hand for good 20 mins, then proceed.....
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 24, 2019, 03:27:52 PM
Lolol!  That's right! 

I am a bit jelly that Livewire is super slick Easton!  And gauges are cool the more the merrier! 

Me (looks down, kicks a rock)  I can set alarms too!  😒

I can survive with it lets put it that way and do performace tests, 0-60,1\8 mile and quarter.  I keep it on knock and boost mostly, and cycle through ambient and iat2, transmission temp and coolant temp.  Mine says Taurus SHO when it starts up so there!  Take that!  Lol

The interceptor gauge is a great single gauge only upgrade.  Some ppl run two to view 4...

Livewire is a step above though!  For sure!  Maybe one day soon I'll get it.  And for interior mods I want the new gauge pod that EPP has that crash created.  Dash candy!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on May 24, 2019, 03:30:12 PM
Quote from: SM105K on May 24, 2019, 02:59:05 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 24, 2019, 02:49:06 PM
Quote from: SM105K on May 24, 2019, 01:30:14 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 24, 2019, 01:02:21 PM
Sm105k always pushing the livewire. Making me feel inadequate with my BDX.

The way I flog mine, I want to know everything that is going on in real time.

I do it like I do it at home. With my eyes closed pretending it's someone else doing it.

My man, you truly don't understand the gravity of the situation until you have sat on your hand for good 20 mins, then proceed.....


Ah we call that the stranger in my parts.

Sorry Andrew we highjacked your build thread lol
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on May 24, 2019, 03:31:28 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on May 24, 2019, 03:27:52 PM
Lolol!  That's right! 

I am a bit jelly that Livewire is super slick Easton!  And gauges are cool the more the merrier! 

Me (looks down, kicks a rock)  I can set alarms too!  😒

I can survive with it lets put it that way and do performace tests, 0-60,1\8 mile and quarter.  I keep it on knock and boost mostly, and cycle through ambient and iat2, transmission temp and coolant temp.  Mine says Taurus SHO when it starts up so there!  Take that!  Lol

The interceptor gauge is a great single gauge only upgrade.  Some ppl run two to view 4...

Livewire is a step above though!  For sure!  Maybe one day soon I'll get it.  And for interior mods I want the new gauge pod that EPP has that crash created.  Dash candy!

I ran 2 interceptor gauges in my Srt-4 they do work really well.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on May 24, 2019, 03:54:46 PM
Haha boys! Good times.  I just hate clutter in the cockpit of my car.  At some of the speeds I travel I don't want to take my eyes off the road to cycle gauges.  The aeroforce gauges are nice.  I had a pair in my TT Camaro. 

I have the Livewire in my eye line, and I can see if the alarms start going off without taking my eyes off the road.  Plus literally you cannot see it if you look into the car.

Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on May 24, 2019, 03:55:50 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 24, 2019, 03:30:12 PM
Quote from: SM105K on May 24, 2019, 02:59:05 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 24, 2019, 02:49:06 PM
Quote from: SM105K on May 24, 2019, 01:30:14 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 24, 2019, 01:02:21 PM
Sm105k always pushing the livewire. Making me feel inadequate with my BDX.

The way I flog mine, I want to know everything that is going on in real time.


I do it like I do it at home. With my eyes closed pretending it's someone else doing it.

My man, you truly don't understand the gravity of the situation until you have sat on your hand for good 20 mins, then proceed.....


Ah we call that the stranger in my parts.

Sorry Andrew we highjacked your build thread lol

Don't apologize, he loves this crap.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 24, 2019, 08:27:01 PM
Good point!  It's true I do need to divert my eyes from the road slightly to mess with it while driving and equally true I invite any talk here...gotta keep it going until I get my car back!  Off topic random stuff happens by nature, I,think we all have symptoms of ADHD.  Especially when I open my hood to do something...start looking and checking everything...save a boat load of time if I focused....but I see something shiny and focus is gone
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on May 24, 2019, 08:28:05 PM
Quote from: SM105K on May 24, 2019, 03:55:50 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 24, 2019, 03:30:12 PM
Quote from: SM105K on May 24, 2019, 02:59:05 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 24, 2019, 02:49:06 PM
Quote from: SM105K on May 24, 2019, 01:30:14 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 24, 2019, 01:02:21 PM
Sm105k always pushing the livewire. Making me feel inadequate with my BDX.

The way I flog mine, I want to know everything that is going on in real time.


I do it like I do it at home. With my eyes closed pretending it's someone else doing it.

My man, you truly don't understand the gravity of the situation until you have sat on your hand for good 20 mins, then proceed.....


Ah we call that the stranger in my parts.

Sorry Andrew we highjacked your build thread lol

Don't apologize, he loves this crap.

Good point back to the shenanigans until he gets his car back.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on May 24, 2019, 08:30:14 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on May 24, 2019, 08:27:01 PM
Good point!  It's true I do need to divert my eyes from the road slightly to mess with it while driving and equally true I invite any talk here...gotta keep it going until I get my car back!  Off topic random stuff happens by nature, I,think we all have symptoms of ADHD.  Especially when I open my hood to do something...start looking and checking everything...save a boat load of time if I focused....but I see something shiny and focus is gone

Your telling me! I'm trying to mount a tv in the kids room and I'm on the forums typing dick jokes. My ADHD is brutal hahaha
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 24, 2019, 08:32:31 PM
Hahaha
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 25, 2019, 04:28:19 PM
So I was looking forward to learning the health of my stock turbos...grim.  Cracked front turbo.   Perfect timing! 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SHOdded on May 25, 2019, 08:09:30 PM
Dont think I have seen this issue before ...
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 25, 2019, 09:33:58 PM
I've never heard of it!  I didn't have a boost leak or issue that I was aware of...ticking time bomb really.  I'm glad I,dodged that bullet!

Update:  She's alive!  My mechanic did a test drive and she's ready for active duty.  He said my steering wheel is off, will definitely need a realignment and both my front struts are leaking.  Well, I think I'll push them this season and either replace or upgrade next season. 

I'm working all day tomorrow so my GF will pick it up.  My first drive will need to be in the evening.  Curious what my revision 2, 93 14 psi base tune feels like with the GH turbos and intercooler.

C'mon hot pipes...hurry up and get here! 

Brad, we got some work to do! 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: AJP turbo on May 26, 2019, 09:51:25 AM
Excellent! The IHI turbos on the Subaru's always had problems with cracks around the wastegate flapper....I think internally wastegated turbos are more prone to that...Sometimes they live a long time though.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 26, 2019, 09:56:28 AM
My mechanic works on a lot of Audi's and VW's, he said it's common with those too. 
Title: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: StealBlueSho on May 26, 2019, 11:44:00 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on May 25, 2019, 09:33:58 PM
I've never heard of it!  I didn't have a boost leak or issue that I was aware of...ticking time bomb really.  I'm glad I,dodged that bullet!

Update:  She's alive!  My mechanic did a test drive and she's ready for active duty.  He said my steering wheel is off, will definitely need a realignment and both my front struts are leaking.  Well, I think I'll push them this season and either replace or upgrade next season. 

I'm working all day tomorrow so my GF will pick it up.  My first drive will need to be in the evening.  Curious what my revision 2, 93 14 psi base tune feels like with the GH turbos and intercooler.

C'mon hot pipes...hurry up and get here! 

Brad, we got some work to do!


I wouldn't push it without it being tuned for the turbos... iirc... Matt said it took quite a bit of tweaking to get the wastegates to respond correctly. I know I'm on revision 14 and we are still tweaking the wastegate logic..

IE even on revision 13 my throttle was closing A LOT through first and second to control the boost.. Matt said he is waiting on some additional DMRs from SCT so he can dial it in better.


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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 26, 2019, 01:50:06 PM
Good to know and thank you for that info!  My GF picked it up, I won't see if for quite a while until tonight.  I saw I had a missed call from her.  Called her back thinking something was wrong..."No I called you bc it's sooo loud!"  Haha uhmm 👌
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on May 26, 2019, 02:28:23 PM
Hell yea buddy coming together nicely. Can't wait until until you get that beast to the track.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 26, 2019, 02:36:33 PM
Most definitely!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 29, 2019, 05:53:15 AM
Had some issues updating my SCT software to load my first new tune for the turbos and intercooler.  Got that resolved and took her for a spin.  It felt really good for being very mild to start.  I also installed my Gen2 torque mounts.  Love the feeling of being connected to the drivetrain!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on May 29, 2019, 08:31:03 AM
Nice, I definitely need a pair of those.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on May 29, 2019, 07:13:19 PM
Quote from: SM105K on May 29, 2019, 08:31:03 AM
Nice, I definitely need a pair of those.

As Jordan has also said. Might be the best bang for buck mod I've done to the sho.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on May 30, 2019, 11:37:45 AM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 29, 2019, 07:13:19 PM
Quote from: SM105K on May 29, 2019, 08:31:03 AM
Nice, I definitely need a pair of those.

As Jordan has also said. Might be the best bang for buck mod I've done to the sho.

That is great to know.  I am in the process of another upgrade for my SHO.  Just waiting for details to iron themselves out.  If it doesn't come to fruition then I will buy the new mounts instead.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 30, 2019, 12:09:32 PM
Heck yeah I love the mounts.  I can feel it turning over as it starts...so it not only sounds(too loud lol) like a race car...it feels like a race car!  And smells like one!!!!  When I start it with the garage door open ....I end up smelling like I went ripping on some dirt bikes 😎
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 31, 2019, 01:11:15 PM
Just in time for Revision 3 to start playing with Meth I also picked up another 5 gal VP M1 as I was all out.  Perfect timing!  Didn't need Meth for Revision 3 but we wanted to start playing so after I did a 3rd gear pull with just 93, I did a 3rd gear pull with Meth.  Wow!  As the old saying goes you don't know what you have until it's gone....when that meth sprayed even though I didn't need it...i felt it!  Instant responsiveness....and check out my IAT2 temps!  In just a single 3rd gear pull it dropped the initial IAT2 down 60 degrees putting me at 10 degrees below ambient!  Simply amazing! 

Decided to Google AWD Dyno near me...all of a sudden out of the blue...this other company Green MTN Gear-Heads pops up out of no where...literally never heard of them.  I call, they DO have an AWD Mustang Dyno 1100SE in the ground...and they've been hiding in plain sight for the last 3 years 20 min from my house!  I said ,"Huh?  I've never seen you guys before on Google."  "We're working on that", he said.  Holy crap this is awesome!  Made an appt June 13th at 3pm.  Hoping Brad can do some remote tuning then or if need be I'll reschedule for when he can.  At least now I have more time to get all my mods done as well! 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on May 31, 2019, 02:49:53 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on May 31, 2019, 01:11:15 PM
Just in time for Revision 3 to start playing with Meth I also picked up another 5 gal VP M1 as I was all out.  Perfect timing!  Didn't need Meth for Revision 3 but we wanted to start playing so after I did a 3rd gear pull with just 93, I did a 3rd gear pull with Meth.  Wow!  As the old saying goes you don't know what you have until it's gone....when that meth sprayed even though I didn't need it...i felt it!  Instant responsiveness....and check out my IAT2 temps!  In just a single 3rd gear pull it dropped the initial IAT2 down 60 degrees putting me at 10 degrees below ambient!  Simply amazing! 

Decided to Google AWD Dyno near me...all of a sudden out of the blue...this other company Green MTN Gear-Heads pops up out of no where...literally never heard of them.  I call, they DO have an AWD Mustang Dyno 1100SE in the ground...and they've been hiding in plain sight for the last 3 years 20 min from my house!  I said ,"Huh?  I've never seen you guys before on Google."  "We're working on that", he said.  Holy crap this is awesome!  Made an appt June 13th at 3pm.  Hoping Brad can do some remote tuning then or if need be I'll reschedule for when he can.  At least now I have more time to get all my mods done as well!


And just think, you wanted to keep your junk stock IC......
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: FLEXXX on May 31, 2019, 04:16:56 PM
how much boost? the -3 knock looks great!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 31, 2019, 06:39:15 PM
Quote from: SM105K on May 31, 2019, 02:49:53 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on May 31, 2019, 01:11:15 PM
Just in time for Revision 3 to start playing with Meth I also picked up another 5 gal VP M1 as I was all out.  Perfect timing!  Didn't need Meth for Revision 3 but we wanted to start playing so after I did a 3rd gear pull with just 93, I did a 3rd gear pull with Meth.  Wow!  As the old saying goes you don't know what you have until it's gone....when that meth sprayed even though I didn't need it...i felt it!  Instant responsiveness....and check out my IAT2 temps!  In just a single 3rd gear pull it dropped the initial IAT2 down 60 degrees putting me at 10 degrees below ambient!  Simply amazing! 

Decided to Google AWD Dyno near me...all of a sudden out of the blue...this other company Green MTN Gear-Heads pops up out of no where...literally never heard of them.  I call, they DO have an AWD Mustang Dyno 1100SE in the ground...and they've been hiding in plain sight for the last 3 years 20 min from my house!  I said ,"Huh?  I've never seen you guys before on Google."  "We're working on that", he said.  Holy crap this is awesome!  Made an appt June 13th at 3pm.  Hoping Brad can do some remote tuning then or if need be I'll reschedule for when he can.  At least now I have more time to get all my mods done as well!


And just think, you wanted to keep your junk stock IC......

Such silly thoughts I have sometimes
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 31, 2019, 06:40:47 PM
Quote from: FLEXXX on May 31, 2019, 04:16:56 PM
how much boost? the -3 knock looks great!

It was only 13 psi but with rhe upgraded turbos and IC Brad said it was the same load as 17 psi with stock turbos. 
Title: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: StealBlueSho on May 31, 2019, 06:45:32 PM
I'm holding 17.8ish in third with the GH Turbos. Load hits 1.82ish and tapers to 1.76 at the end iirc...

Matt said I was at the limits of the low pressure pump and the stock block...while maintaining a cushion of space...

You won't have the low pressure issue with meth... but the stock block maybe a blocker.




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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 31, 2019, 06:50:25 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on May 31, 2019, 06:45:32 PM
I'm holding 17.8ish in third with the GH Turbos. Load hits 1.82ish and tapers to 1.76 at the end iirc...


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Brad said 16,17 psi and we'll start to make the stock rods and pistons cry.  He said I'll have to decide how far I want to go.  My next revision is for 15 psi and meth.  I may inch up to 16 then stay and dyno...not sure.  Definitely want to play it safe as possible....within reason anyway ha! 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on May 31, 2019, 06:50:43 PM
Like I said last night. Those friggin iat's are insane. Man that I/C works well.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: StealBlueSho on May 31, 2019, 06:51:35 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on May 31, 2019, 06:50:25 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on May 31, 2019, 06:45:32 PM
I'm holding 17.8ish in third with the GH Turbos. Load hits 1.82ish and tapers to 1.76 at the end iirc...


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Brad said 16,17 psi and we'll start to make the stock rods and pistons cry.  He said I'll have to decide how far I want to go.  My next revision is for 15 psi and meth.  I may inch up to 16 then stay and dyno...not sure.  Definitely want to play it safe as possible....within reason anyway ha!

Yup, just depends on how he is tuning it. But seems right...


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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on May 31, 2019, 06:53:10 PM
Go big or go home 20psi for both of you :popcorn:
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: StealBlueSho on May 31, 2019, 06:53:59 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 31, 2019, 06:53:10 PM
Go big or go home 20psi for both of you :popcorn:

I mean... I'm hitting 22 psi before the IC... does that count?


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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on May 31, 2019, 06:57:51 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on May 31, 2019, 06:53:59 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 31, 2019, 06:53:10 PM
Go big or go home 20psi for both of you :popcorn:

I mean... I'm hitting 22 psi before the IC... does that count?


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That's sorta like when I told my wife it was 10 inches when we met. All lies
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: StealBlueSho on May 31, 2019, 06:59:58 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 31, 2019, 06:57:51 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on May 31, 2019, 06:53:59 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 31, 2019, 06:53:10 PM
Go big or go home 20psi for both of you :popcorn:

I mean... I'm hitting 22 psi before the IC... does that count?


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That's sorta like when I told my wife it was 10 inches when we met. All lies

I suppose your were just "shoNoff"?


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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on May 31, 2019, 07:05:12 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on May 31, 2019, 06:59:58 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 31, 2019, 06:57:51 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on May 31, 2019, 06:53:59 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on May 31, 2019, 06:53:10 PM
Go big or go home 20psi for both of you :popcorn:

I mean... I'm hitting 22 psi before the IC... does that count?


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That's sorta like when I told my wife it was 10 inches when we met. All lies

I suppose your were just "shoNoff"?


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Dude I'm Irish curse of the 3 thumbs.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 31, 2019, 07:14:30 PM
Hahaha!  Wow!  The angry 3!!!

I'm not fooling anyone we're going to go for it this year...wait...that was last year's theme...need a new theme
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 01, 2019, 09:11:22 AM
Revision 4 93+Meth went well last night except for getting DTC P0130 and P0150.  I didn't do my 1,2,3 gear pull bc of it.  Just the front wideband sensors?  I don't think I'll bother with trying to look at connections...they are old and abused....its time to replace them.

Rev 4 load with GH Turbos
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SHOdded on June 01, 2019, 09:23:49 AM
Could be.  Usually when it's both sensors tho, you should check upstream for issues.  If you have changed nothing but the tune, and then got the error codes, reset them and see if they come back.  Also clean up both MAP sensors, and the IAT sensor.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 01, 2019, 09:31:06 AM
Will do and thank you for the advise.  Might be saving myself some money
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SHOdded on June 01, 2019, 10:42:44 AM
Fingers crossed.   These cars do chew up the widebands tho.

Also keep an eye on the battery.  Little random electrical issues can often be traced back to the battery.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: mybigsho on June 01, 2019, 10:55:08 AM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on May 31, 2019, 06:51:35 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on May 31, 2019, 06:50:25 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on May 31, 2019, 06:45:32 PM
I'm holding 17.8ish in third with the GH Turbos. Load hits 1.82ish and tapers to 1.76 at the end iirc...


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Brad said 16,17 psi and we'll start to make the stock rods and pistons cry.  He said I'll have to decide how far I want to go.  My next revision is for 15 psi and meth.  I may inch up to 16 then stay and dyno...not sure.  Definitely want to play it safe as possible....within reason anyway ha!

Yup, just depends on how he is tuning it. But seems right...


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How many pounds of boost can stock turbos make? If i'm reading my log correctly i make around 18 lbs or so..
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 01, 2019, 11:00:43 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on June 01, 2019, 10:42:44 AM
Fingers crossed.   These cars do chew up the widebands tho.

Also keep an eye on the battery.  Little random electrical issues can often be traced back to the battery.

Fingers crossed is right so we'll see this evening.  And yes the battery could be a culprit but its new last summer, on a battery tender all winter and when I park it in the garage
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 01, 2019, 11:06:26 AM
MybigSHO I was tuned to 18 psi last year on stock turbos and I believe some go 19 maybe even 20psi stock...working the stock turbos very hard but they handle it.  The newer the stock turbos the longer they'll last at that psi.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: mybigsho on June 01, 2019, 11:12:09 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 01, 2019, 11:06:26 AM
MybigSHO I was tuned to 18 psi last year on stock turbos and I believe some go 19 maybe even 20psi stock...working the stock turbos very hard but they handle it.  The newer the stock turbos the longer they'll last at that psi.
Thanks.. I thought i was seeing 19psi in some data..
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on June 01, 2019, 03:28:41 PM
Quote from: mybigsho on June 01, 2019, 11:12:09 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 01, 2019, 11:06:26 AM
MybigSHO I was tuned to 18 psi last year on stock turbos and I believe some go 19 maybe even 20psi stock...working the stock turbos very hard but they handle it.  The newer the stock turbos the longer they'll last at that psi.
Thanks.. I thought i was seeing 19psi in some data..

My 100 octane tune hits 18.5-19psi on stock turbos
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: StealBlueSho on June 01, 2019, 03:32:18 PM
For reference.. here is the datalog from the dyno pull...
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 01, 2019, 03:35:20 PM
My Revision 4 with Meth is very close.  Thank you for the reference.  I'm excited for my dyno day June 13th
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 01, 2019, 03:37:11 PM
Yours was a mustang dyno too right?
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: StealBlueSho on June 01, 2019, 03:37:52 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 01, 2019, 03:37:11 PM
Yours was a mustang dyno too right?

No, It was a dynojet.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 01, 2019, 03:38:22 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on June 01, 2019, 03:37:52 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 01, 2019, 03:37:11 PM
Yours was a mustang dyno too right?

No, It was a dynojet.

Dynojet is better yes?
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: StealBlueSho on June 01, 2019, 03:40:21 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 01, 2019, 03:38:22 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on June 01, 2019, 03:37:52 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 01, 2019, 03:37:11 PM
Yours was a mustang dyno too right?

No, It was a dynojet.

Dynojet is better yes?

I wouldn't say they are better.  For power pulls the industry tends to revolve around Dynojet numbers. Mustang, Dynodynamics, etc are all different brands that different shops use. Mustang dynos are also referred to as "heart breakers" because they read really low. But they are supposed to be fantastic for tuning.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 01, 2019, 03:44:38 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on June 01, 2019, 03:40:21 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 01, 2019, 03:38:22 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on June 01, 2019, 03:37:52 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 01, 2019, 03:37:11 PM
Yours was a mustang dyno too right?

No, It was a dynojet.

Dynojet is better yes?

I wouldn't say they are better.  For power pulls the industry tends to revolve around Dynojet numbers. Mustang, Dynodynamics, etc are all different brands that different shops use. Mustang dynos are also referred to as "heart breakers" because they read really low. But they are supposed to be fantastic for tuning.

Yes I think I've heard that before.  It's too bad I didn't know of this shop before so I won't have anything to compare my numbers to....like for instance even if it were to read low or high, the difference in power made from one tune to the next would be undeniable. 

I think so long as my car runs really strong and feels better than ever, I won't get obsessed with dyno numbers.  In the future at least now if I add more things I can go back to this dyno and see how much I gain. 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: StealBlueSho on June 01, 2019, 03:50:05 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 01, 2019, 03:44:38 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on June 01, 2019, 03:40:21 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 01, 2019, 03:38:22 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on June 01, 2019, 03:37:52 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 01, 2019, 03:37:11 PM
Yours was a mustang dyno too right?

No, It was a dynojet.

Dynojet is better yes?

I wouldn't say they are better.  For power pulls the industry tends to revolve around Dynojet numbers. Mustang, Dynodynamics, etc are all different brands that different shops use. Mustang dynos are also referred to as "heart breakers" because they read really low. But they are supposed to be fantastic for tuning.

Yes I think I've heard that before.  It's too bad I didn't know of this shop before so I won't have anything to compare my numbers to....like for instance even if it were to read low or high, the difference in power made from one tune to the next would be undeniable. 

I think so long as my car runs really strong and feels better than ever, I won't get obsessed with dyno numbers.  In the future at least now if I add more things I can go back to this dyno and see how much I gain.


Yup, dyno print outs tell a story.. hows the torque curve look, how does the afr's look, is the curve what is expected, is the power delivery smooth, etc etc etc...  For comparison between major upgrades a before and after comparison is very nice as well. But for just a peak HP/TQ reference, not much weight behind that. AND the same car on the same dyno can put down different numbers on different days, even after corrections. Corrections are not perfect either.. and they don't take into account ECU cutting power due to IAT's, coolant temps, etc..

If you do three pulls and the power delivery smooth, curves looks right, etc.. then you should be happy with that.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 01, 2019, 03:52:29 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on June 01, 2019, 03:50:05 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 01, 2019, 03:44:38 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on June 01, 2019, 03:40:21 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 01, 2019, 03:38:22 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on June 01, 2019, 03:37:52 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 01, 2019, 03:37:11 PM
Yours was a mustang dyno too right?

No, It was a dynojet.

Dynojet is better yes?

I wouldn't say they are better.  For power pulls the industry tends to revolve around Dynojet numbers. Mustang, Dynodynamics, etc are all different brands that different shops use. Mustang dynos are also referred to as "heart breakers" because they read really low. But they are supposed to be fantastic for tuning.

Yes I think I've heard that before.  It's too bad I didn't know of this shop before so I won't have anything to compare my numbers to....like for instance even if it were to read low or high, the difference in power made from one tune to the next would be undeniable. 

I think so long as my car runs really strong and feels better than ever, I won't get obsessed with dyno numbers.  In the future at least now if I add more things I can go back to this dyno and see how much I gain.


Yup, dyno print outs tell a story.. hows the torque curve look, how does the afr's look, is the curve what is expected, is the power delivery smooth, etc etc etc...  For comparison between major upgrades a before and after comparison is very nice as well. But for just a peak HP/TQ reference, not much weight behind that. AND the same car on the same dyno can put down different numbers on different days, even after corrections. Corrections are not perfect either.. and they don't take into account ECU cutting power due to IAT's, coolant temps, etc..

If you do three pulls and the power delivery smooth, curves looks right, etc.. then you should be happy with that.

Yeah that makes sense.  And I should keep have them do a 4th gear pull right?  Ive never done this before
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: StealBlueSho on June 01, 2019, 03:53:43 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 01, 2019, 03:52:29 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on June 01, 2019, 03:50:05 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 01, 2019, 03:44:38 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on June 01, 2019, 03:40:21 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 01, 2019, 03:38:22 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on June 01, 2019, 03:37:52 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 01, 2019, 03:37:11 PM
Yours was a mustang dyno too right?

No, It was a dynojet.

Dynojet is better yes?

I wouldn't say they are better.  For power pulls the industry tends to revolve around Dynojet numbers. Mustang, Dynodynamics, etc are all different brands that different shops use. Mustang dynos are also referred to as "heart breakers" because they read really low. But they are supposed to be fantastic for tuning.

Yes I think I've heard that before.  It's too bad I didn't know of this shop before so I won't have anything to compare my numbers to....like for instance even if it were to read low or high, the difference in power made from one tune to the next would be undeniable. 

I think so long as my car runs really strong and feels better than ever, I won't get obsessed with dyno numbers.  In the future at least now if I add more things I can go back to this dyno and see how much I gain.


Yup, dyno print outs tell a story.. hows the torque curve look, how does the afr's look, is the curve what is expected, is the power delivery smooth, etc etc etc...  For comparison between major upgrades a before and after comparison is very nice as well. But for just a peak HP/TQ reference, not much weight behind that. AND the same car on the same dyno can put down different numbers on different days, even after corrections. Corrections are not perfect either.. and they don't take into account ECU cutting power due to IAT's, coolant temps, etc..

If you do three pulls and the power delivery smooth, curves looks right, etc.. then you should be happy with that.

Yeah that makes sense.  And I should keep have them do a 4th gear pull right?  Ive never done this before


Up to you, I have had them done in 4th and 3rd... 4th is closer to 1:1 so most shops want to go as close to that as possible. However, in the SHO world, 3rd tends to be standard.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on June 01, 2019, 03:53:47 PM
SBS is right don't get set on hitting a certain number on a dyno. Its all about power and torque curves. Also usable power. My old car would only do 450-470whp on a mustang. I would walk all over cars that did over 500who on the same dyno. They tuned for a peak number. I tuned for a flat usable power curve.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 01, 2019, 03:57:17 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on June 01, 2019, 03:53:47 PM
SBS is right don't get set on hitting a certain number on a dyno. Its all about power and torque curves. Also usable power. My old car would only do 450-470whp on a mustang. I would walk all over cars that did over 500who on the same dyno. They tuned for a peak number. I tuned for a flat usable power curve.

Good to know fellas I feel much better knowing what to be truly concerned about and what to look for.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: StealBlueSho on June 01, 2019, 04:02:27 PM
So here is a comparison...

The higher number was the pull right after the turbo's were installed.. car was driven around for a short drive to warm up the components, then dropped on the dyno... the lower number is after I drove for 2hr's down interstate 95 in traffic, then dropped on the dyno.. it was also much hotter and more humid that day as well..

The peak numbers are different, but look at the curves.. they are identical. So what this tells me is the car was running exactly the same both days, but either I was pulling power the whole time from heat soak (which it was) or the DYNO was calibrated slightly different that day as well resulting in a slightly lower output. However, the point stands that the curves are IDENTICAL but peak is is off by a couple percentage points.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 01, 2019, 04:08:00 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on June 01, 2019, 04:02:27 PM
So here is a comparison...

The higher number was the pull right after the turbo's were installed.. car was driven around for a short drive to warm up the components, then dropped on the dyno... the lower number is after I drove for 2hr's down interstate 95 in traffic, then dropped on the dyno.. it was also much hotter and more humid that day as well..

The peak numbers are different, but look at the curves.. they are identical. So what this tells me is the car was running exactly the same both days, but either I was pulling power the whole time from heat soak (which it was) or the DYNO was calibrated slightly different that day as well resulting in a slightly lower output. However, the point stands that the curves are IDENTICAL but peak is is off by a couple percentage points.

Yes it's identical and gives a look inside to show how much weather/heat affects our performance.  Overall its not far off which is great news. 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: StealBlueSho on June 01, 2019, 04:09:21 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 01, 2019, 04:08:00 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on June 01, 2019, 04:02:27 PM
So here is a comparison...

The higher number was the pull right after the turbo's were installed.. car was driven around for a short drive to warm up the components, then dropped on the dyno... the lower number is after I drove for 2hr's down interstate 95 in traffic, then dropped on the dyno.. it was also much hotter and more humid that day as well..

The peak numbers are different, but look at the curves.. they are identical. So what this tells me is the car was running exactly the same both days, but either I was pulling power the whole time from heat soak (which it was) or the DYNO was calibrated slightly different that day as well resulting in a slightly lower output. However, the point stands that the curves are IDENTICAL but peak is is off by a couple percentage points.

Yes it's identical and gives a look inside to show how much weather/heat affects our performance.  Overall its not far off which is great news.

3.8% difference between the runs.  I guess what I am trying to say is, don't get hung up on peak numbers :-)

My shop was kind enough to provide me the dynojet files from all my runs so I can play with them as I need to... dynojet software is free.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 01, 2019, 04:17:37 PM
I won't get hung up on peak numbers now that I know what's really important.  I guess now its just to have a power reference.  Plus its just cool!  Thanks for all the info!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 02, 2019, 10:00:16 PM
Manu you were right!  After having DTC P0130 and P0150 at the same time you suggested to clean the sensors before buying new wideband.  So far so good on cleaning my 3bar and IAT sensors before replacing my wideband oxygen sensors.  I cleaned them...at the same time which I found they both have the identical part numbers....is that correct?  My 3bar and IAT sensor are the same?  I then swapped out my sp534 plugs with the sp542 plugs all gapped to about .027-.028.  Brad asked me about my Meth settings and I think my new pump is more powerful than the last as he made remarks that I was spraying a lot....I kept my settings the same and just swapped the pumps.  I decreased the initial by about a quarter turn and also increased gain to 8 to start spraying at 8psi.  We make boost so damn quick I don't think I need to spray at less than 8. 

Took it for a warm up drive then two data logs.  One from a dead stop, no brake boost just a hard WOT 1,2,3 gear sweep.  Then another at about 2,000 rpm in 3rd, WOT 3rd gear to about 5,600 Rpm.  That's it.  It felt better I must say and my check engine light did NOT come back on. 

Pic of my sp534 with just 3k miles.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SHOdded on June 02, 2019, 10:55:13 PM
The 3 bar on the intake manifold (factory is 2 bar) and the CAC/IAT2 sensor are one and the same, yes.
(https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9903.0;attach=20600;image)
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 03, 2019, 05:47:23 AM
I spoke too soon.  As well as my two datalogs felt last night I did have some fuel pressure issues, primary sensor bank 1 had problems which affected it.  Bank 2 is probably right there as far as needing to be replaced as well.  So I will have to replace both primary sensors bank 1 and 2. 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: ZSHO on June 03, 2019, 06:55:38 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 03, 2019, 05:47:23 AM
I spoke too soon.  As well as my two datalogs felt last night I did have some fuel pressure issues, primary sensor bank 1 had problems which affected it.  Bank 2 is probably right there as far as needing to be replaced as well.  So I will have to replace both primary sensors bank 1 and 2.
It should resolve your issues and should always have them replaced in (pairs) especially the wideband 02 sensors since they control (AFR) and don't want to throw off one bank! Z

https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,299.msg144236/topicseen.html#msg144236 (https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,299.msg144236/topicseen.html#msg144236)
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 07, 2019, 06:39:41 AM
Swapped my primary 02 sensors last night bank 1 and 2.  Purchased an 02 sensor swivel wrench that made this quite easy.  I was able to get both front 02's from the bottom of the car.  The only thing I did from the top was harness connections.  I did employ SBS's shoelace trick.
They 02's look pretty well done....left wayyy too long on the grill!  These puppies have never been replaced by me until now.  That's 20k without an issue.....how long they were there when I got it Idk....and out of the 20k I have been tuned for 14k. 

I was fortunate that I was able to read up on old posts of swapping these out....and buying the wrench in the pic below.  It made this experience not nearly as bad as some of you doing this without others previous experiences shared here.   For that Thank You!

For others wondering the pigtail lengths are the same, it's just one part# DY-1120 you'll need and if replacing both banks just order 2. 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on June 07, 2019, 09:22:06 AM
SBS and I used the shoe string method for the connectors.  It save me a lot of time and a lot more colorful language. 

Andrew I know quite a few people here will see your thread and start the process of changing their O2's as well.  I will save you some time and drop some knowledge for the people wondering what is involved.

https://shoforum.com/index.php?threads/sm105ks-ownership-performance-maintenance-thread.138235/page-6

First post on that link.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 07, 2019, 10:45:25 AM
Quote from: SM105K on June 07, 2019, 09:22:06 AM
SBS and I used the shoe string method for the connectors.  It save me a lot of time and a lot more colorful language. 

Andrew I know quite a few people here will see your thread and start the process of changing their O2's as well.  I will save you some time and drop some knowledge for the people wondering what is involved.

https://shoforum.com/index.php?threads/sm105ks-ownership-performance-maintenance-thread.138235/page-6

First post on that link.

Thanks buddy.  I thought I should do them...but my mods this year have got me well over my 6k budget...so I skimped there...could have been changed easily when the subframe was down and everything wide open...nope..not me...end up needing to change them after with everything back in the way.  That swivel OEM oxygen sensor wrench saved my a$$.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on June 07, 2019, 10:53:03 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 07, 2019, 10:45:25 AM
Quote from: SM105K on June 07, 2019, 09:22:06 AM
SBS and I used the shoe string method for the connectors.  It save me a lot of time and a lot more colorful language. 

Andrew I know quite a few people here will see your thread and start the process of changing their O2's as well.  I will save you some time and drop some knowledge for the people wondering what is involved.

https://shoforum.com/index.php?threads/sm105ks-ownership-performance-maintenance-thread.138235/page-6

First post on that link.

Thanks buddy.  I thought I should do them...but my mods this year have got me well over my 6k budget...so I skimped there...could have been changed easily when the subframe was down and everything wide open...nope..not me...end up needing to change them after with everything back in the way.  That swivel OEM oxygen sensor wrench saved my a$$.

You and me are alot alike.  We seem to like to do things the hard way lol. Cutting the wires and the shoe string saved me.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 07, 2019, 11:07:19 AM
Quote from: SM105K on June 07, 2019, 10:53:03 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 07, 2019, 10:45:25 AM
Quote from: SM105K on June 07, 2019, 09:22:06 AM
SBS and I used the shoe string method for the connectors.  It save me a lot of time and a lot more colorful language. 

Andrew I know quite a few people here will see your thread and start the process of changing their O2's as well.  I will save you some time and drop some knowledge for the people wondering what is involved.

https://shoforum.com/index.php?threads/sm105ks-ownership-performance-maintenance-thread.138235/page-6

First post on that link.

Thanks buddy.  I thought I should do them...but my mods this year have got me well over my 6k budget...so I skimped there...could have been changed easily when the subframe was down and everything wide open...nope..not me...end up needing to change them after with everything back in the way.  That swivel OEM oxygen sensor wrench saved my a$$.

You and me are alot alike.  We seem to like to do things the hard way lol. Cutting the wires and the shoe string saved me.

Haha I almost ✂ them too!  The rear I had to disconnect my lines to my catch can and get all that out of the way.  I looked once and thought ......where are my dikes...then I stopped...gave it another try.  I pulled the wire plastic clips out, pulled the whole connection right up into view, then disconnected them.  Haha after I did that I thought...not bad!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on June 07, 2019, 03:55:23 PM
I would of just pulled the downpipes out. I like creating more work for myself. Andrew how many miles are on those buddy? My car just hit 70k I can't only imagine what mine look like.


Never mind I actually just read your posts lol :bangin:
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 07, 2019, 04:15:48 PM
🤦
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on June 07, 2019, 04:22:18 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 07, 2019, 04:15:48 PM
🤦

I went to public school I like pictures
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 07, 2019, 04:24:55 PM
Lmfao!  Well there's always THAT
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 09, 2019, 08:51:18 PM
Getting near complete for tuning with AJP.  Roughly 90% done.  I think I'll be in good shape for dyno day Thursday the 13th.  The last two logs the car has never felt so poweful....

I installed my Billet Badge.  Its not as easy to decipher that it says Ford like I thought.  I'm on the fence.  I think if the Ford was painted Gloss black it would be perfect. 

Rear reinforcement bar finally came in.  My Hot pipes will arrive sometime Thursday as well.  So I'm not quite there as far as completing all my mods but the most important stuff will be done and I'll get a base Dyno tune done.  Then hopefully not work one weekend and finish the rest up. 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on June 10, 2019, 08:37:28 AM
I am really freaking excited for you on Thursday.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 10, 2019, 10:49:19 AM
Me too.  I wonder what it will read ...im more concerened with how it performs at the track for sure. 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on June 10, 2019, 02:05:08 PM
I wish I could go with you. I'm legit like sm105 I'm very excited to see what your car does.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on June 10, 2019, 02:08:37 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on June 10, 2019, 02:05:08 PM
I wish I could go with you. I'm legit like sm105 I'm very excited to see what your car does.

So much so, I will be in San Diego competing so I told Andrew, you better text or call me to tell me what she did lol.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on June 10, 2019, 02:16:56 PM
He will get a kick square in the baby maker if I don't get a text on Thursday.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on June 10, 2019, 02:30:43 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on June 10, 2019, 02:16:56 PM
He will get a kick square in the baby maker if I don't get a text on Thursday.

Give him one for me too.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 10, 2019, 03:02:12 PM
Lol I'll tell you guys ...cmon like I wouldn't
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on June 10, 2019, 03:29:06 PM
We are just doing our due diligence.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on June 10, 2019, 03:44:33 PM
I agree. I think he'd be disappointed in us if we didn't act this way.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on June 10, 2019, 04:01:24 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on June 10, 2019, 03:44:33 PM
I agree. I think he'd be disappointed in us if we didn't act this way.

100%, I know for a fact I would be if you two didn't act this way towards me.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 10, 2019, 08:55:48 PM
Love the enthusiasm guys!  Nice to have your support! 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on June 11, 2019, 08:36:44 AM
It's a couple of reasons.  1:because what you are doing isn't just another big turbo build it is more fringe.  2. It allows guys like me to see what the future could be like.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on June 11, 2019, 12:21:05 PM
I'll add a

3) you spent the money I was going to. Then my wife walked into bedroom in February and said "I'm pregnant." So there for I have to live through you and your car for another year or so lol.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 11, 2019, 08:44:22 PM
Thanks again you guys.  It would be nice to all get together at the track.  And then go get some food and drinks!!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: StealBlueSho on June 11, 2019, 09:09:52 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 11, 2019, 08:44:22 PM
Thanks again you guys.  It would be nice to all get together at the track.  And then go get some food and drinks!!

I'm curious how the tuning is going with the GH Turbos...

Excited to see how things progress! Keep it going buddy!


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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 11, 2019, 09:39:28 PM
It's going well.  We have done 8 revisions so far.  Waiting to hear its good to go for the log I did tonight.  I've turned meth way down to bring up stft a bit, also tamed the knock sensors to stop adding so much spark to keep torque in check.  Hoping for some solid numbers Thursday.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on June 12, 2019, 02:00:21 AM
Haha, I said watch the TQ...lol
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 12, 2019, 05:05:23 AM
Quote from: SM105K on June 12, 2019, 02:00:21 AM
Haha, I said watch the TQ...lol

This thing is a torque monster....the knock sensors have never behaved like this before....its like they have no impulse control.  They see all this spark and want to add...add...add...add....add...hey how does that look to you Jim?  Looks great John add some more....not knowing when to stop, Brad had to step in like a good Dad and say NO!  NO MORE SPARK!!!!  It's like he had to lock them in their room while we have a WOT party 🎉
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: Jordan on June 12, 2019, 12:38:05 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 12, 2019, 05:05:23 AM
Quote from: SM105K on June 12, 2019, 02:00:21 AM
Haha, I said watch the TQ...lol

This thing is a torque monster....the knock sensors have never behaved like this before....its like they have no impulse control.  They see all this spark and want to add...add...add...add....add...hey how does that look to you Jim?  Looks great John add some more....not knowing when to stop, Brad had to step in like a good Dad and say NO!  NO MORE SPARK!!!!  It's like he had to lock them in their room while we have a WOT party 🎉

My knock sensors are also not allowed to add any more spark after 3k rpm.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 12, 2019, 01:26:21 PM
Damn you must be way up there too!  Too much of a good thing I guess is bad..especially for these trannys
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: Jordan on June 12, 2019, 03:19:07 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 12, 2019, 01:26:21 PM
Damn you must be way up there too!  Too much of a good thing I guess is bad..especially for these trannys

It's not so much a torque thing as it is an unsafe amount of timing. After so much timing the engine starts to fight itself and it isn't beneficial anymore.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 12, 2019, 03:29:07 PM
Makes sense.  I am slowly learning as I go. 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 12, 2019, 09:45:21 PM
Changed out my rear reinforcement bar...fun fun.  Rear bumper has to come off, tail lights, rear wheels.  But it had to be done.  I haven't really ever driven it in snow and salt but the previous owners did.  Finally gone! 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 13, 2019, 06:52:42 AM
Dyno today at 3-4pm.  Super psyched....its a dream come true for me.  Never had anything like this done before.  Again, I can't believe this shop is close to me and I didn't know.

Check them out https://greenmountaingearheads.com/
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: Jordan on June 13, 2019, 08:48:52 AM
Holy cow that thing was rusty!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 13, 2019, 09:47:14 AM
Quote from: Jordan on June 13, 2019, 08:48:52 AM
Holy cow that thing was rusty!

So bad....ive been wanting to replace it for a couple years now.  So weird too bc everything else is totally fine. 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 4sfed on June 13, 2019, 11:06:55 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 12, 2019, 09:45:21 PM
Changed out my rear reinforcement bar...fun fun.  Rear bumper has to come off, tail lights, rear wheels.  But it had to be done.  I haven't really ever driven it in snow and salt but the previous owners did.  Finally gone!

Whoa!  A new tombstone!  (for any Death Race fans out there)

Also, all that new metal not being rusted and gone, will probably add enough weight to slow your car down...  ;)
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 13, 2019, 12:50:04 PM
Quote from: 4sfed on June 13, 2019, 11:06:55 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 12, 2019, 09:45:21 PM
Changed out my rear reinforcement bar...fun fun.  Rear bumper has to come off, tail lights, rear wheels.  But it had to be done.  I haven't really ever driven it in snow and salt but the previous owners did.  Finally gone!

Whoa!  A new tombstone!  (for any Death Race fans out there)

Also, all that new metal not being rusted and gone, will probably add enough weight to slow your car down...  ;)

Lol that was well said!  Maybe I'll just have Tim drive, he might weigh less than me
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 13, 2019, 02:35:46 PM
On my way to get Dynoed.  Filled up with some more Meth, quick touchless car wash...then it's SHO time 😜
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: Jordan on June 13, 2019, 02:59:23 PM
Update us with numbers!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on June 13, 2019, 03:20:20 PM
Quote from: Jordan on June 13, 2019, 02:59:23 PM
Update us with numbers!

He just sent me a pic. Strapping her down now. I'll let him update from here. I'm super pumped for him I hope she puts down good numbers.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: StealBlueSho on June 13, 2019, 05:30:41 PM
The anticipation sucks!


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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on June 13, 2019, 05:41:39 PM
I know the numbers....HOLY TQ.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 13, 2019, 06:57:05 PM
Ok fellas!  First what an awesome exerience at Green Mountain GearHeads!!!  First thing I see in their shop is a CTSV with the front bumper off and a huge front mount intercooler.  So for those don't know my tune for the dyno is 19 psi with the new GH turbos and GH intercooler and meth, no HPFP yet.  I had to wait for another car to come off but I was fine with waiting.  It was a super clean shop.  And 11 min from my house...CRAZY

Tuner asked me if I had a preference for doing the pull.  He actually asked if I wanted to just do a 40 dig until 120...ok!?  Why not?  He loaded the dyno to make the SHO as if it was weighing 6500 pounds.  He with the extra load it will hit boost sooner and hold it longer.  Ok! 

Two "digs" on the mustang dyno at 19 psi she made 463awhp and 569 awtq!!!!  With traction control off she squirmed in her restraints .....man it was badass!  I sat shotgun and data logged for Brad!  The dyno has a projection screen in front of it that shows you all the dyno info right in front of you!  Wicked cool!  After the two pulls at 19 psi I flashed back to my 18 psi tune for a comparison.  18 psi pulled 418 awhp and 521awtq.  A big difference between 1psi....roughly 40 awhp and 40 awtq on 1psi.  That's nuts!  All in all it was really fun and I'm really pleased with the numbers.  The tuner looked at AFR which was 12.0 and was equally impressed with the tune as he was with the car. 

The not so good:  my car is perfectly fine.  The not so good started right when we were done and I was going to leave.  I asked for a print out of the results.  He put them on a graph for comparison.  Sooo the print out reads a completely different set of numbers.  He kept trying different options and said that he recently had an issue with the print outs with another customer and he thought it was fixed....and I'm like....uuhhhh...really?  I need that.  He said all the info is saved here and they as soon as he fixed it he'll email me the correct print outs..ok?  What else can I do?  I took a picture of the 18 psi pull on the computer to show you guys what it says compared to the print out.  I wasnt able to take same pic of the 19psi info as it was now a graph and the screen shot was gone...i finished in 18 psi so the screen was still open.  That took away from how awesome everything went...slighly sour taste...but hey great numbers and big torque number for a mustang dyno!  Then...it gets better.  He says, back up and I'll meet you up front and watch out for that truck.  Ok...so I back up, turn sharply to avoid the truck and hit something...get out..theres a random truck axle with brake drums just sitting on the ground?  Scratches the entire passenger side of my front lip...and gouged a little passenger wheel lip....go up front and show him.  He doesn't charge me for the dyno session. 

Jesus what an experience.  Happy...mad...happymad?? 

Got a lot of pics and one short video.  Here's a couple pics, and the screen of 18 psi pull and that's run 1 for whatever reason on the print out...you can see my horsepower numbers are ofd quite a bit and my torque way off! 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: StealBlueSho on June 13, 2019, 07:03:25 PM
Very nice!!!!!! Congrats!!


I suspect the big drop in power was after you flashed... did OAR reset?


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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 13, 2019, 07:18:09 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on June 13, 2019, 07:03:25 PM
Very nice!!!!!! Congrats!!


I suspect the big drop in power was after you flashed... did OAR reset?


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Thanks!  I flashed to 18 while there, 19 I ran for a couple days.  I didn't check the logs yet I've been "preoccupied" lol just with the exterior damage and my sweet gf decided to rant and rave about how much time I spend on my phone lol
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on June 13, 2019, 07:35:48 PM
As I said early man that's awesome. Especially on a mustang dyno. I can't believe the amount of torque you made on that dyno. Absolutely insane. Congrats buddy I can't wait until you get up to the track with it. I've gotta get my ass in gear here and get ready too lol.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: Jordan on June 13, 2019, 07:47:52 PM
Shame about the scratches man, but sounds like she is a ripper now! Be careful on that trans! LOL
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 13, 2019, 09:37:53 PM
Quote from: Jordan on June 13, 2019, 07:47:52 PM
Shame about the scratches man, but sounds like she is a ripper now! Be careful on that trans! LOL

I know, running it by my paint guy tomorrow to get it fixed asap.  Torque makes me nervous ....

Quote from: shoNoff on June 13, 2019, 07:35:48 PM
As I said early man that's awesome. Especially on a mustang dyno. I can't believe the amount of torque you made on that dyno. Absolutely insane. Congrats buddy I can't wait until you get up to the track with it. I've gotta get my ass in gear here and get ready too lol.

Thanks buddy!  I've got my hot pipes, Derale cooler, alignment to do and some other minor touches.  Hopefully in a couple more weeks or so hit the track
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on June 13, 2019, 11:12:36 PM
Nice numbers bud, told you about the TQ huh? Cant wait to see what she does.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 14, 2019, 06:34:33 AM
Quote from: SM105K on June 13, 2019, 11:12:36 PM
Nice numbers bud, told you about the TQ huh? Cant wait to see what she does.

Yup and pretty insane if you ask me.  I almost want to detune her lol! 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 14, 2019, 06:35:53 AM
https://youtu.be/HF_nFZBC0cQ

The downshift to 2nd to 3rd shift she gets a little loose on the dyno
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: StealBlueSho on June 14, 2019, 06:38:37 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 14, 2019, 06:34:33 AM
Quote from: SM105K on June 13, 2019, 11:12:36 PM
Nice numbers bud, told you about the TQ huh? Cant wait to see what she does.

Yup and pretty insane if you ask me.  I almost want to detune her lol!

I would.... Nice numbers.... a lot for a stock block...


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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: ZSHO on June 14, 2019, 06:51:26 AM
Congrats! Nice numbers indeed!  :thumb:
SBS and you got me a tad bit jelly! Enjoy the extra power. Z
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: StealBlueSho on June 14, 2019, 07:01:12 AM
@ 1:26 in the video you have either a spark blowing out the drive side tail pipe or maybe something from the cat.. lol.. it was for sure giving it all it has...
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 14, 2019, 07:11:02 AM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on June 14, 2019, 07:01:12 AM
@ 1:26 in the video you have either a spark blowing out the drive side tail pipe or maybe something from the cat.. lol.. it was for sure giving it all it has...

Yes I saw that, not sure...I know that after removing the cat and adding the second x pipe, the passenger side gets a little more flow.  Eventually it evens out but from a cold start its super noticeable.
Not sure what's going on with two x pipes balancing exhaust but maybe there was some weld crap in the way and I blew it out lol....wishful thinking anyway
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 14, 2019, 07:12:01 AM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on June 14, 2019, 06:38:37 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 14, 2019, 06:34:33 AM
Quote from: SM105K on June 13, 2019, 11:12:36 PM
Nice numbers bud, told you about the TQ huh? Cant wait to see what she does.

Yup and pretty insane if you ask me.  I almost want to detune her lol!

I would.... Nice numbers.... a lot for a stock block...


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Very true indeed
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 14, 2019, 07:25:23 AM
I'll be installing my hot pipes and second meth nozzle this weekend...even though I don't need a second nozzle....guess I'll just turn the pump down even more and let her breeze by...do a little retuning to make sure everything is still good.  Detune might be in the works.  Save the 19 for track day or something
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SHOdded on June 14, 2019, 07:37:55 AM
Those turbos are really putting out!   Good idea to back off a bit for daily driving.  Bpd's daily tune was at 500 awhp but he has a built block.  At the very least ARP the heads.  I would still have doubts about the rotating assembly tho.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 14, 2019, 07:50:19 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on June 14, 2019, 07:37:55 AM
Those turbos are really putting out!   Good idea to back off a bit for daily driving.  Bpd's daily tune was at 500 awhp but he has a built block.  At the very least ARP the heads.  I would still have doubts about the rotating assembly tho.

I agree and am equally apprehensive at this power level.  The GearHead turbos are awesome and will support a built motor so its not in vein to purchase them ...you can still use them down the road if you further your build. 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: AJP turbo on June 14, 2019, 11:14:52 AM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on June 14, 2019, 06:38:37 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 14, 2019, 06:34:33 AM
Quote from: SM105K on June 13, 2019, 11:12:36 PM
Nice numbers bud, told you about the TQ huh? Cant wait to see what she does.

Yup and pretty insane if you ask me.  I almost want to detune her lol!

I would.... Nice numbers.... a lot for a stock block...


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You should too MR. 484awhp/496awtq! All of these upgraded turbo numbers on these cars soooo far exceed what the stock rods and pistons were made for. It's no different than a drug you want more and more and seemingly can't be satisfied.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: StealBlueSho on June 14, 2019, 11:26:30 AM
Quote from: AJP turbo on June 14, 2019, 11:14:52 AM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on June 14, 2019, 06:38:37 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 14, 2019, 06:34:33 AM
Quote from: SM105K on June 13, 2019, 11:12:36 PM
Nice numbers bud, told you about the TQ huh? Cant wait to see what she does.

Yup and pretty insane if you ask me.  I almost want to detune her lol!

I would.... Nice numbers.... a lot for a stock block...


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You should too MR. 484awhp/496awtq! All of these upgraded turbo numbers on these cars soooo far exceed what the stock rods and pistons were made for. It's no different than a drug you want more and more and seemingly can't be satisfied.

LOL!!! Yes we are pushing the motors quite hard... Although, historically 500awtq+ seems to be the point where things start to get really pissy.. stock torque converter has a hard time locking, trans starts to get unhappy although torque management tends to help with that, motors tend to be short lived unless they are hyper maintained and not pushed hard often.

Also why I run Gearheads Auto Octane tune for the most part which is a bit less than the E30 tune.. still 450awhp/480awtq on 93 pump. 

Personally, I wouldn't be comfortable running 802SHO's power on just meth alone.. thats a metric SH!T ton of meth lol.. but he has bigger nuts than me!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: AJP turbo on June 14, 2019, 11:51:45 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 13, 2019, 06:57:05 PM


Tuner asked me if I had a preference for doing the pull.  He actually asked if I wanted to just do a 40 dig until 120...ok!?  Why not?  He loaded the dyno to make the SHO as if it was weighing 6500 pounds.  He with the extra load it will hit boost sooner and hold it longer.  Ok! 

I really wish he would have just done a single gear sweep so we could've seen the curve and I don't like the extra loading and shifting on the dyno because the weight of the rollers and loading but it survived.


Two "digs" on the mustang dyno at 19 psi she made 463awhp and 569 awtq!!!!  With traction control off she squirmed in her restraints .....man it was badass!  I sat shotgun and data logged for Brad!  The dyno has a projection screen in front of it that shows you all the dyno info right in front of you!  Wicked cool!  After the two pulls at 19 psi I flashed back to my 18 psi tune for a comparison.  18 psi pulled 418 awhp and 521awtq.  A big difference between 1psi....roughly 40 awhp and 40 awtq on 1psi.  That's nuts!  All in all it was really fun and I'm really pleased with the numbers.  The tuner looked at AFR which was 12.0 and was equally impressed with the tune as he was with the car. 


Your AFR is actually 11.25 target. I wouldn't run a 12.0 AFR for boost. The shops 02 sensor was probably calibrated and scaled for gasoline which has a stoic of 14.64 but even that would show about 11.76. Stoic of E10 gas is 14.069 so your lambda target of .80 equals 11.25 afr.     Stoic x lambda = AFR


Actually your afr through the pull is about 10.4 to 11.54 so you are plenty rich



And being that you don't have catalytic converters primary or 3rd and your AFR's and nice and healthy and you are spraying meth and a relatively low aircharge temps I didn't think your soot coming out was too bad...I see that a lot on dynos...Your ambient air temp was like 60 degrees and your IAT2 was only 62!!! At that kind of boost and back pressure the exhaust pulses are sucking and getting reversion and cylinders are not totally clearing there is a lot going on. But from a datalog and vitals it all looked nice in the log. Even watching drag strip runs at WOT you often see pufts of soot when going all out especially on a catless car


And your meth and stft's are in the low .80 range so you are probably getting a good cleaning effect being that your meth is accounting for almost 20% of your delivered fuel volume. But it's a lot of power no doubt. The dyno graph looked nice and smooth so I don't see evidence of spark blowout but dyno operators love to leave the smoothing really high.


SBS I see that you have taken well to the "magic number"...I try to stay away from that but it happens with every platform. It's ok to use a magic number for acceptable power as a guide but not bible. What will you do if you crack a ring at 420whp? Will you search for a reason why the failure happened or could you accept that a failure was eminent because you far exceeded design specs? I do non destructive testing on metals by day. Often only "batches" materials will get sampled and tested in a car like this. Unlike a Ferrari that puts every rod through real time radiography. Often a connecting rod or piston can have fractures of discontinuities that exist from day one and never be a problem because of the over engineering but then at increased power defects become exposed and rear their heads when they wouldn't have otherwise.


2 things can be true at the same time: you can have a good tune that exhibits nothing dangerous except power. And you can have a catastrophic failure. It doesn't have to be either or. Often people will look to  the tune when a failure happens but what about the fact that at 484whp you have added over 200 crank HP


My coyote mustang makes 600whp when detuned...Everyone says stay below 650...Not that much difference so if I blow it up at 600 is it the tuners fault? I didn't tune it by the way lol.

I have not doubt you have a great tune but I feel you may have a false sense of security when running as low as even 450whp



Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SHOdded on June 14, 2019, 12:07:02 PM
Is there a way to track engine vibration frequencies in a mesningful way other than knock sensing?  Looking for a good way to gauge rotating assembly/block fatigue.  I guess you would need a good known baseline from Ford first.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: StealBlueSho on June 14, 2019, 12:09:34 PM
There isn't really a magic number per se.. but based on previous data.. at 500awhp+ / 500awtq+ there is a greater chance of a major problem on stock components and drive train.. I can think of at least 3-4 cars off the top of my head that hit those numbers and then had major failures afterwards... Although yes, we do see many failures below that number as well.. the ratio of failures at 420awhp vs 500+awhp lends itself to the assumption that 500awhp+ seems to be a point where its not matter of if, its a matter of when.

My tuner is fantastic, but if the motor lets loose.. I am sure it wasn't due to an issue in the tune.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: AJP turbo on June 14, 2019, 12:38:14 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on June 14, 2019, 12:09:34 PM
There isn't really a magic number per se.. but based on previous data.. at 500awhp+ / 500awtq+ there is a greater chance of a major problem on stock components and drive train.. I can think of at least 3-4 cars off the top of my head that hit those numbers and then had major failures afterwards... Although yes, we do see many failures below that number as well.. the ratio of failures at 420awhp vs 500+awhp lends itself to the assumption that 500awhp+ seems to be a point where its not matter of if, its a matter of when.

My tuner is fantastic, but if the motor lets loose.. I am sure it wasn't due to an issue in the tune.

Precisely. The magic number is what you have referenced many times. Magic numbers are based on previous examples. They become perceived accepted power levels and it's not wise...It's still gambling...So you like safer bets, still gambling. I would rather see power less than 400whp but that's not what everyone is looking for.

Have you ever wondered how you would answer the question as a tuner when someone asks can you please give me as much power as possible while being safe as and conservative as possible...If you have imagined what it would look like when a persons head is about to explode you would see it if yo watch me type a reply to that.


But if your motor fails and you are certain it's not a tune issue your tuner would appreciate that very much...Not everyone is like you because of the perceived magic numbers that are out there. They feel they are on one side of the power line or the other so they were operating in the safe zone or not and if they were they look for reasons when the reason might be as simple as "too much pahwa" but they have been conditioned through internet forums that they should have been safe because they ONLY added 100hp to their stock motor car.


 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 14, 2019, 12:50:53 PM
What is safe?  This makes me think of the hot pipes.  Mike had a boost leak in his flex so now everyone making power does?  Its still great for piece of mind, but mine came late, I don't have a boost leak.  How many cars have had major problems and jow many were tuned?  There's only been a handful of SHO's with this much power so are they ALL doomed bc few were?  Plenty of stock SHO's riddle with problems as well.  It's a gamble for sure.  One thing is for sure no one wants problems with their vehicles, modified or not.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: StealBlueSho on June 14, 2019, 12:55:45 PM
@AJPTurbo... pretty close example? LOL...


(https://media.giphy.com/media/XmDlJZXJkLcTm/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 14, 2019, 12:59:09 PM
Hahaha poor Brad!!!  Make my car split flames and pass emissions, and quick shift in manual sport, but not too hard and turn my window lock button into 5 psi boost button!  And keep it safe and idle at 850 rpm and super cold ac!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: AJP turbo on June 14, 2019, 01:02:17 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on June 14, 2019, 12:55:45 PM
@AJPTurbo... pretty close example? LOL...


(https://media.giphy.com/media/XmDlJZXJkLcTm/giphy.gif)

Yes I think that is me lol!! Nice one
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on June 14, 2019, 01:38:51 PM
The fact is whether you are adding 1whp or 1000whp it's a gamble. You are doing things the factory never intended these parts to do. Racing, modding it's all a gamble. That's part of what makes the rush so great when things work out.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: TopherSho on June 14, 2019, 10:28:36 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on June 14, 2019, 01:38:51 PM
The fact is whether you are adding 1whp or 1000whp it's a gamble. You are doing things the factory never intended these parts to do. Racing, modding it's all a gamble. That's part of what makes the rush so great when things work out.

Indeed,. One bad injector for less than a couple seconds punched my rings in #2... I was at 400awhp/460awtq when that happened... But even if I was untuned the same thing would have occurred at WOT.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 15, 2019, 07:55:00 AM
Again, sorry to hear that happened Topher but you're right, some things are imminent failures and are not tune related at all.  Underlying issues can be exacerbated but a solid tune is a solid tune.  Unfortunately non of us have control over the life expectancy of OEM used or new or upgraded components. 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SHOdded on June 16, 2019, 06:25:39 AM
I think people push boundaries all the time.  I do see a good trend in measuring twice, cutting once in this lot :)  It is a learning experience, and we are all the better for it.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 23, 2019, 04:32:06 PM
1" hubcentric wheel spacers.  I tried these out last year briefly and took them off and sent them back.  My rear tires were rubbing on the 10'oclock position(rear bumper mount).  Feeling determined to get these on I reordered a set and while I had my rear bumper off to install my new rear reinforcement bar, I got to some cutting.  The tab there stick in the the fender area a bit....I trimmed some and cut some on both sides in the rear.  I cut and trimmed around the mount, not eliminating it.  It's not pretty but it gets the job done.  Only way to see it is to look in my wheel well a tad...in which case no one will see it. I did not rub up front at full turn so no trimming up front.

I had a chance today to test fit the rears and go for a test drive, down the same bumpy crappy road.  I rubbed once...compared to every single bump like last time.  90% done.  I think I'll heat some of whats left up highlighted in red and push it in.  Going for no rubbing at all.  Almost there.  Looks amazing though.  One pic driverside no spacer, compared to passenger side with spacer.
My wheels are 20x9. 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on June 23, 2019, 08:28:04 PM
 I have no opinion on the spacers, but the tail pipes.......I know what my SHO is getting. That looks amazing.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 23, 2019, 09:17:27 PM
Quote from: SM105K on June 23, 2019, 08:28:04 PM
I have no opinion on the spacers, but the tail pipes.......I know what my SHO is getting. That looks amazing.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1Pair-Staggered-4-Dual-Out-2-5-In-QUAD-Exhaust-Tips-For-Camaro-Firebird-LS1-SS-/262824487485 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/1Pair-Staggered-4-Dual-Out-2-5-In-QUAD-Exhaust-Tips-For-Camaro-Firebird-LS1-SS-/262824487485)

Send It!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on June 23, 2019, 11:10:05 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 23, 2019, 09:17:27 PM
Quote from: SM105K on June 23, 2019, 08:28:04 PM
I have no opinion on the spacers, but the tail pipes.......I know what my SHO is getting. That looks amazing.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1Pair-Staggered-4-Dual-Out-2-5-In-QUAD-Exhaust-Tips-For-Camaro-Firebird-LS1-SS-/262824487485 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/1Pair-Staggered-4-Dual-Out-2-5-In-QUAD-Exhaust-Tips-For-Camaro-Firebird-LS1-SS-/262824487485)

Send It!

Thank you good buddy.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 24, 2019, 12:11:42 PM
Quote from: SM105K on June 23, 2019, 11:10:05 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 23, 2019, 09:17:27 PM
Quote from: SM105K on June 23, 2019, 08:28:04 PM
I have no opinion on the spacers, but the tail pipes.......I know what my SHO is getting. That looks amazing.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1Pair-Staggered-4-Dual-Out-2-5-In-QUAD-Exhaust-Tips-For-Camaro-Firebird-LS1-SS-/262824487485 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/1Pair-Staggered-4-Dual-Out-2-5-In-QUAD-Exhaust-Tips-For-Camaro-Firebird-LS1-SS-/262824487485)

Send It!

Thank you good buddy.

You're very welcome Sir!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 28, 2019, 12:03:00 AM
EPP Hot Pipes installed along with my Alky Control dual nozzles m10 and m5.  I installed them just after the IAT sensor.  I guess that doesn't matter as the meth bungs are well before it.   Post IAT sensor used to be a critical detail when people first started getting meth injection so I went with tradition.  My engine bay needs a good degreasing but it still looks lovely now!  I also decided not to cover the meth lines with loom...I like the "all natural" look lol!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: ZSHO on June 28, 2019, 06:47:23 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 28, 2019, 12:03:00 AM
EPP Hot Pipes installed along with my Alky Control dual nozzles m10 and m5.  I installed them just after the IAT sensor.  I guess that doesn't matter as the meth bungs are well before it.   Post IAT sensor used to be a critical detail when people first started getting meth injection so I went with tradition.  My engine bay needs a good degreasing but it still looks lovely now!  I also decided not to cover the meth lines with loom...I like the "all natural" look lol!
Nice! No issues with Hood clearance! Dipstick is back. Z  :)
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 28, 2019, 09:00:57 AM
Good eye Z!  Thankfully no hood clearance issues!  It was close!  I did not test fit anything.  As I was assembling I thought "Oh $*it" but all is well 👍
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 28, 2019, 09:27:46 AM
I got my old dipstick out with a screw lol
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on June 28, 2019, 01:14:56 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 28, 2019, 09:27:46 AM
I got my old dipstick out with a screw lol

I broke mine during my intercooler install.  I was pissed, but was able to get it out even after pushing it down further....lol.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 28, 2019, 04:42:06 PM
Hmm maybe I damaged mine putting in the IC and didn't realize
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on June 28, 2019, 07:00:20 PM
I think they are just cheap s*** to be honest. I pulled mine to check oil and the handle snapped right off.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 30, 2019, 12:02:38 PM
I wonder who else had thier dipstick break.  Right now I got:  802SHO(me), ShoNoff, SM105K, and ZSHO.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on June 30, 2019, 02:02:10 PM
Good! I am not the only one!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on July 02, 2019, 10:40:39 AM
A couple years ago I cut my stock grille and made what you see today.  As of late I can't stop thinking about a grille delete look like some of the mustangs out there so I decided to do my version.  Leaving the grille shell and removing the mesh.  Felt very wrong but I got my front grille mesh out.  I had it in there with windshield urethane....almost gave up but once I got it started it was doable.  In anticipation for not having mesh anymore I scuffed up my front impact bar and rattle canned it with Rustoleum paint and primer gloss black.  I attempted to install my Derale cooler and mocked up where it will go...before thinking I was missing parts...this morning I found the missing AN fittings.  I'll get this installed later today as well as mock up where my front splitter rods will go.  Install my left rear lateral arm then off to get an inspection tomorrow am.  The guy who removed my 3rd cat is also doing the inspection...funny that he failed me for the rear reinforcement bar and play in the lateral arm but who am I to argue.  It needed it so all good to go now.  Of course I'll save my mesh as I tend to change my mind plus the mesh is colored matches in Tuxedo Black.

Also after all the (RD) of my new turbos and data logging with my front chin spoiler off and splash guard off my front tires have chewed the crap out of the front fender liners.  I have replacements and will replace once I get the front chin back on with the new splitter I'm making myself. 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on July 02, 2019, 10:55:39 AM
Looks dude.  I really like the grill deletes as well.  I maybe start dabbling in that that as well.   I need the front clip of my car fixed (lots of little chips and damage) and resprayed. Also have you seen the billet grills? 

Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on July 02, 2019, 11:10:42 AM
Damn I like that as well!  Who's SHO is that?
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on July 02, 2019, 11:14:46 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on July 02, 2019, 11:10:42 AM
Damn I like that as well!  Who's SHO is that?

His screen name on ShoForum is JasonoftheRugar.  His SHO is really sharp. 

https://shoforum.com/index.php?threads/sho-us-your-wheels.137081/
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on July 02, 2019, 12:46:25 PM
He's got the upgraded brakes too.  Very nice
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on July 02, 2019, 12:56:13 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on July 02, 2019, 12:46:25 PM
He's got the upgraded brakes too.  Very nice

I got you on the grills.

https://www.grilletech.com/2010-Aftermarket-Billet-Mesh-Grille-Pillars-Trim/2010-Ford-Aftermarket-Billet-Mesh-Grille-Pillars-Trim/2010-Ford-Taurus-Aftermarket-Billet-Mesh-Grille-Pillars-Trim (https://www.grilletech.com/2010-Aftermarket-Billet-Mesh-Grille-Pillars-Trim/2010-Ford-Aftermarket-Billet-Mesh-Grille-Pillars-Trim/2010-Ford-Taurus-Aftermarket-Billet-Mesh-Grille-Pillars-Trim)
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on July 02, 2019, 01:20:32 PM
Quote from: SM105K on July 02, 2019, 12:56:13 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on July 02, 2019, 12:46:25 PM
He's got the upgraded brakes too.  Very nice

I got you on the grills.

https://www.grilletech.com/2010-Aftermarket-Billet-Mesh-Grille-Pillars-Trim/2010-Ford-Aftermarket-Billet-Mesh-Grille-Pillars-Trim/2010-Ford-Taurus-Aftermarket-Billet-Mesh-Grille-Pillars-Trim (https://www.grilletech.com/2010-Aftermarket-Billet-Mesh-Grille-Pillars-Trim/2010-Ford-Aftermarket-Billet-Mesh-Grille-Pillars-Trim/2010-Ford-Taurus-Aftermarket-Billet-Mesh-Grille-Pillars-Trim)

Those suckers are pricey!  I've seen them before.  I think it depends on what else you got going on with it.  I think it looks odd on the Silver SHO but on the Red SHO it looks good...looks like the Red SHO has lightly smoked headlights.  We'll see how this grille delete looks.  I think with seeing in and seeing a bunch of trans lines and coolers it will have a cool mechanical look.  And look less like a Taurus.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SHOdded on July 02, 2019, 05:14:07 PM
Tomc has a howto on this forum for making your own grille.  Also a vendor on FB selling custom grilles, Rod Smith is the gentleman's name, AM Grilles is the co name IIRC.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SHOdded on July 02, 2019, 06:28:27 PM
https://www.facebook.com/shogrilles/ (https://www.facebook.com/shogrilles/)
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on July 03, 2019, 05:36:18 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on July 02, 2019, 05:14:07 PM
Tomc has a howto on this forum for making your own grille.  Also a vendor on FB selling custom grilles, Rod Smith is the gentleman's name, AM Grilles is the co name IIRC.

I found his after I made mine.  I would have bought his if I knew but making my own was a big step and one I do not regret.  It came out great along with a sense of pride.  I dug up these old pics of my before and after grille project.  I also purchased a used lower grille that did not have ACC and swapped my ACC cover out with the open mesh from the used lower grille.  Only once in a blue moon does my exposed ACC give off an error code.  At that time it was plasti dipped black and the mesh was gloss black and an All Fit Automotive lip.  Then had the grille and mesh painted Tuxedo Black and the front chin spoiler replaced the plastic lip.  I actually look the rugged look of the pre paint matched grille and rubber lip with my funky carbon fiber vinyl eyebrows I put over the smoked headlight tint
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SHOdded on July 03, 2019, 06:34:33 AM
No question, your SHO is looking sharp :thumb:
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on July 03, 2019, 09:50:31 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on July 03, 2019, 06:34:33 AM
No question, your SHO is looking sharp :thumb:
I concur.  SHARP AF!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on July 03, 2019, 11:10:57 AM
Welp I can't make it to my inspection appt today as I've spent the last 4 hours simply trying to get the rear driverside lateral arm bolt free.  After a trip to the store for more tools as I later found I did not need as the lateral arm bolt has a nut on the back side...almost like a washer and some sort of holder so it doesn't move....well mine moved.  I got the bolt loose but it just spins and behind I can see that stupid nut spinning.....i should be able to sawzall off the bolt and then just pull both ends of the bolt out correct?  Don't even ask you know I'm more than ready to stab someone over a !%!\!\÷/!/!\!/!\!!\!\!\!\!\!\×;,$_×&_!& bolt!  😠😤
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on July 03, 2019, 11:23:47 AM
I haven't been there with this car, but I have been with other cars....I know that feeling.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on July 03, 2019, 11:31:47 AM
Quote from: SM105K on July 03, 2019, 11:23:47 AM
I haven't been there with this car, but I have been with other cars....I know that feeling.

Its unbelievable lol!  25 min job tops.  Jack car up take wheel off pb blaster...wait few min.  Take lateral arm nut off the joint 17 min...then take the bolt....yeah lets put it on pause there for 4 hours
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SHOdded on July 03, 2019, 01:19:56 PM
Beer guzzling break time.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on July 03, 2019, 06:14:39 PM
So ....cut the bolt with a sazall.....and yup the square nut thing has its on fancy place behind the most impossible area to reach ....fricken A...i tried for 4 hours to get that nut to stop spinning so I could back the bolt out...now that back piece is stuck in there?  What to do now?  Drill the living $hit out of it? 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on July 03, 2019, 06:22:04 PM
Help
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: Jordan on July 03, 2019, 07:40:04 PM
OUCH! Shoot man. I am not familiar with that section of the car. Wish I could help! RIP. If you have space to drill it looks like that might be the solution...
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on July 04, 2019, 06:19:05 AM
Quote from: Jordan on July 03, 2019, 07:40:04 PM
OUCH! Shoot man. I am not familiar with that section of the car. Wish I could help! RIP. If you have space to drill it looks like that might be the solution...

Would need on very long drill bit to get it from the front.  If I remove the track bar I'll have more access.....although not much.  Thinking about notching a small area to gain access to it from the rear....then I could just grab it out.  Possibly come up with an alternative bolt and nut combo to reattach.  I'd be pleased to run a bolt through the backside and attach a nut on the front.....that would tickle my fancy among other things
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: ZSHO on July 04, 2019, 06:52:18 AM
Sorry for the late reply! Try to HEAT up one side in order to remove the link/bolt!
Can you p/up a new Link or try to remove ball-joint! Z

http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,7536.msg115013.html#msg115013 (http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,7536.msg115013.html#msg115013)
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on July 05, 2019, 07:12:30 AM
Derale trans cooler installed.  Simple.  Cool side condensor to inlet Derale, outlet into Aux Cooler, out let aux back to transmission.  Trans fluid will now be cooled 3 times, 1 factory, Derale 10000 series 16 row cooler to performance package trans cooler.  Can't wait to see what my temps will be at the track and in general.  At some point I will change to 90 degree fittings on top.  Or even upgrade to larger cooler.  Good for now.

Special thanks to BPD for inspiration from his build yet again!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on July 05, 2019, 07:43:24 AM
So when are you going build me a splitter?
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on July 05, 2019, 07:55:40 AM
Quote from: SM105K on July 05, 2019, 07:43:24 AM
So when are you going build me a splitter?

When I get done with mine....just need to finish the edges better and cover with black door edge trim.  Bought some at store that's 8ft long...I need like 8ft 4...crazy!  Near complete now minus the lateral link and alignment.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: Jordan on July 05, 2019, 09:27:50 AM
That splitter looks insanely good. Also I need to get on that trans cooler life. When the trans temps get higher than cylinder head temps I get to worrying LOL... Good thing I do fluid changes often I guess..
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: StealBlueSho on July 05, 2019, 09:35:04 AM
#PPLife

The aux trans cooler on the PP works extremely well...never seen over 180F on the trans temps.


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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on July 05, 2019, 10:10:50 AM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on July 05, 2019, 09:35:04 AM
#PPLife

The aux trans cooler on the PP works extremely well...never seen over 180F on the trans temps.


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I agree I made 5 passes in a row without shutting my car off. I never got above 180f.

Andrew as I told you before car looks friggin badass. It's got like the gt350 look to the front end. Love it man.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on July 05, 2019, 02:35:01 PM
I have seen my trans temps at the track hit a maximum 205 but that was after several good beatings.  After the dyno session it got into the 190's.  I would like to see some normal driving temps in the 140's with the 2 coolers...its one thing to cool hot fluid but the aux cooler will get copl3r fluid to start from the Derale so it should get even colder for sure.  I'd love to see trans temps not exceeding 170 at the track but bc I'll be asking more of the trans which in turn heats up the fluid even more, I'll be happy with 180. 

The splitter was fun to make and it came out better than I imagined.  It's nice to see a vision in your mind come to life.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on July 05, 2019, 08:42:18 PM
180's would be nice just at freeway speed.....lol.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on July 06, 2019, 07:02:13 AM
Quote from: SM105K on July 05, 2019, 08:42:18 PM
180's would be nice just at freeway speed.....lol.

In AZ its just so hot this time of year and Air conditioning is as vital as water to survive.  I've done a test on the highway before with air conditioning.  When I turned it off I got about 8-10 degrees cooler trans temps. 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on July 06, 2019, 12:21:56 PM
Yeah 207 is rather interesting. Looking at a bigger cooler today.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on July 06, 2019, 05:13:03 PM
Quote from: SM105K on July 06, 2019, 12:21:56 PM
Yeah 207 is rather interesting. Looking at a bigger cooler today.

Were you able to find a cooler to your liking?
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on July 06, 2019, 06:31:07 PM
No. I went to our local speed shop to see. They have some RPC Ones that seem to be bigger, but I need to do more research.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on July 06, 2019, 09:59:34 PM
Quote from: SM105K on July 06, 2019, 06:31:07 PM
No. I went to our local speed shop to see. They have some RPC Ones that seem to be bigger, but I need to do more research.

I like this one.  Sort of wish I bought this one instead.  Mine was like $120.  This one is just over $300 I believe
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on July 07, 2019, 11:12:44 PM
I think I want to retain the factory mounting position of my PP trans cooler, but just run a bigger cooler. I can buy a one of these for cheap just to see it if makes any difference at all. If I can get it into the 190's at 85 mph I will be happy.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on July 08, 2019, 05:55:54 AM
Gotcha.  I wonder if it's doable to go with a larger cooler there and get some sort of fan on it.  Now there isn't any room in the front of the factory cooler for a fan but behind it...if there was some sort of fan behind it sucking more air through it that would be just as beneficial. 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SHOdded on July 08, 2019, 07:39:22 AM
irondoor19 had added an auxiliary electric fan to his SHO (PI?), hope he will chime in here, or you can PM him.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on July 08, 2019, 08:52:06 AM
Andrew I forgot to post the link lol....

https://www.jegs.com/i/RPC/707/R5054X/10002/-1 (https://www.jegs.com/i/RPC/707/R5054X/10002/-1)

Something like this.  I know it will get direct air, but I am wondering it will make a difference. I will also allow me to run another 1.5 quarts of trans fluid....which always helps.  I am getting pretty good at pulling the front clip off the car, so this weekend I may just pick this trans cooler up, and install it. There is one at my local speed shop for 5 bucks cheaper than jegs and summit.  I have two quarts of trans fluid sitting on my shelf, so for $72 I am going to take the gamble....lol.     
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on July 09, 2019, 06:00:26 AM
That cooler looks beefy enough to take on the job!  Glad to see you're taking cooling to the next level.  It can only make things better and last longer!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: StealBlueSho on July 31, 2019, 06:49:06 PM
It's all about the fffaaammmmmeeee!

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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on July 31, 2019, 07:28:54 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on July 31, 2019, 06:49:06 PM
It's all about the fffaaammmmmeeee!

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Hahaha that's me!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on August 07, 2019, 05:49:43 AM
I am just about done with mods this year.  Here is a list of everything replaced/upgraded/changed and maintenance thus far. 

New GH turbos
New Oil and Coolant lines for turbos
New GH IC
New Alky Control pump
Dual Alky nozzle upgrade m5 m10 nozzles
EPP hotpipes
Derale 16 row 1000 series trans cooler
Changed from sp534 plugs to sp542 @.028
New Hood Struts
New front fender liners
New rear reinforcement bar
Stainless 4" quad tips powdercoated Satin Black
3rd Cat removed and added another 2.5" stainless Xpipe
New front wideband o2 sensors
New LR lateral arm
Billet Badges Carbon Black Ford Emblem painted Tux Blck
DIY front splitter 1/4" Abs plastic with FTR splitter rods
Upgraded 13+ SHO fender name plates dipped black
Vvid Gloss Black Vinyl on chrome window trim
1" Hubcentric spacers
Brake calipers painted black

Royal Purple 5w20 with K&N oil filter
Redline Lightweight Shockproof Gear oil in PTU + RDU
Trans drain and fill Mercon LV
Radiator flush
Very happy with all changes thus far.  Future plans are suspension upgrades, HPFP and Msd coils and brakes.  Also I'm sick of my wheel/tire combo and would like to change.  After that point engine and transmission upgrades would need to be done. 

The Redline Lightweight Shockproof gear oil is the best I've ever felt my transmission operate.  The addition of the Derale Cooler to my existing 13+ PP cooler helps but not specifically as I had thought.  What the Derale Cooler does do is create a much slower temp rise in the trans fluid than before....it eventually still gets into the 190s and it topped out at 205 steady highway driving @75-80 mph with AC on.  Goes back into the 190's with the AC off.  But it starts dropping the trans temp in stop and go traffic and idling.  I'll need to revisit how I ran the lines for it, I believe I'm reducing flow the way i have it now, just wanted to get it in. 

First time out to the track on 8/2/19 I was a little disappointed initially but now I think it wasn't all that bad.  I got only two runs in which really isn't enough to determine if I ran my best time for that day.  I left the car full weight with about 50 miles to empty.  The new IC, splitter and wheel spacers added to that weight about 50 pounds...but I certainly best my old full weight time of 12.06@115 with the 11.89@119.  My car didn't run its fastest 330ft or even 1/8 but it for sure had a lot more power in the top end than ever before.  Hard to say this is the best the car can do full weight. 

Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SHOdded on August 07, 2019, 06:32:18 AM
So much fun watching you guys build your rides and tear apart misconceptions about the limits what this platform can do!  Just crazy how far we have come along in just the last couple of years.  Gen 4 is holding its own with Gen 5, not so long in the tooth after all :D
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on August 07, 2019, 08:47:56 AM
You can thank Shodded about the Redline Fluid, he got in my ear and my car's drive systems feel like they drive in velvet.  Nevermind the NVH and Tonka truck ride with the H&R springs and PP struts....lol.  Other then that, velvet.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: Jordan on August 07, 2019, 10:32:54 AM
I guess I need to look into Redline eh? Just been running motorcraft. I got the hook up on motorcraft fluids, but if it's that good good...
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SHOdded on August 07, 2019, 12:20:05 PM
Definitely will not hurt.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on August 07, 2019, 12:38:25 PM
Jordan make the switch to Redline.  You won't regret it.  I was a little confused when ordering as it doesn't have a weight on it.  Shodded may have to correct me but I believe it has the same characteristics of the 75w140 and 75w90 so you just use it in both PTU and RDU.  Its designed for drag racing
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: Jordan on August 07, 2019, 12:51:48 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 07, 2019, 12:38:25 PM
Jordan make the switch to Redline.  You won't regret it.  I was a little confused when ordering as it doesn't have a weight on it.  Shodded may have to correct me but I believe it has the same characteristics of the 75w140 and 75w90 so you just use it in both PTU and RDU.  Its designed for drag racing

You have a direct link? There is specific 75w140 and 75w90, but not sure if I am looking at the appropriate thing.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on August 07, 2019, 12:56:01 PM
I bought some redline oil that said the weights but I sent it back it wasn't the right kind. 

You want this right here https://www.amazon.com/Red-Line-58404-Lightweight-Shockproof/dp/B000CPI5YG (https://www.amazon.com/Red-Line-58404-Lightweight-Shockproof/dp/B000CPI5YG)
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: Jordan on August 07, 2019, 01:00:57 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 07, 2019, 12:56:01 PM
I bought some redline oil that said the weights but I sent it back it wasn't the right kind. 

You want this right here https://www.amazon.com/Red-Line-58404-Lightweight-Shockproof/dp/B000CPI5YG (https://www.amazon.com/Red-Line-58404-Lightweight-Shockproof/dp/B000CPI5YG)

Perfect! Thank you! I am looking to swap all my fluids around before I go back to the dra... Oops don't want to spill the beans.... LOL
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on August 07, 2019, 01:05:53 PM
Please no more records....let some of us "try" to catch up before you annihilate us all .....again
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: Jordan on August 07, 2019, 01:06:56 PM
I just gotta maintain my lead until you take it over from me!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on August 07, 2019, 01:09:53 PM
Its an uphill battle buddy.  I honestly don't know if she can.  She's willing but I will at least try.  Lol
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: Jordan on August 07, 2019, 01:10:48 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 07, 2019, 01:09:53 PM
Its an uphill battle buddy.  I honestly don't know if she can.  She's willing but I will at least try.  Lol

Sounds like you need a little Jordan weight reduction to make your dreams a reality!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on August 07, 2019, 01:15:55 PM
It's sh*t like this that makes me want to put a kit on my car......
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on August 07, 2019, 01:16:56 PM
I think that's the only way to do it.  I like the Braile battery you did and the nitto front tires that was a great idea.  I want to try the nos idea for cooling the charge.  It's fun to see what different things do. 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on August 07, 2019, 01:17:49 PM
Quote from: SM105K on August 07, 2019, 01:15:55 PM
It's sh*t like this that makes me want to put a kit on my car......

You car will fly man if you do that ...sounds like such an affordable option too
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: Jordan on August 07, 2019, 01:42:09 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 07, 2019, 01:16:56 PM
I think that's the only way to do it.  I like the Braile battery you did and the nitto front tires that was a great idea.  I want to try the nos idea for cooling the charge.  It's fun to see what different things do.

I've always been one to preach a lot of little things makes a huge difference. I'm absolutely about heavy optimization if you hadn't noticed already...
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on August 08, 2019, 05:40:29 AM
Quote from: Jordan on August 07, 2019, 01:42:09 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 07, 2019, 01:16:56 PM
I think that's the only way to do it.  I like the Braile battery you did and the nitto front tires that was a great idea.  I want to try the nos idea for cooling the charge.  It's fun to see what different things do.

I've always been one to preach a lot of little things makes a huge difference. I'm absolutely about heavy optimization if you hadn't noticed already...

Trust me, we all have noticed.  11.3 with stock turbos and motor. 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on August 08, 2019, 06:10:24 AM
Cleaned her up a little. 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 76fomoco on August 08, 2019, 09:27:55 AM
802 I love the wheels!  the whole car is dead sexy!

Jordan, Has anybody talked to the "MAN" about the tune to support the NOS?
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on August 08, 2019, 09:46:44 AM
As I told you at the track. Best looking front end on a sho I've ever seen. Great work buddy.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on August 08, 2019, 12:51:54 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on August 08, 2019, 09:46:44 AM
As I told you at the track. Best looking front end on a sho I've ever seen. Great work buddy.

I concur.  I will need him to build me a splitter as well. 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: Jordan on August 08, 2019, 12:56:25 PM
I'd be willing to negotiate some Jordan weight reduction method and record quarter mile guarantee for a splitter like that! Lol!! Let's get you a ten and me a splitter just gotta swing by Missouri!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on August 08, 2019, 01:19:47 PM
If you guys already had the extreme dimension front chin spoiler I could send you one right now!  It's going to be harder to make one for the stock lower cladding plastic as its not flat across the bottom.  I know I could make a splitter for it, just haven't tried to yet.  I should start looking into it. 

Ok I'll swing thru...Missouri is just over yonder, be there by 3pm! 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on August 08, 2019, 03:14:45 PM
If I still had a sho I'd be convincing you to make me one.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on August 08, 2019, 04:01:14 PM
I have my stock lower cladding thingy to make one with.  I'll try to do that.  FTR also accidentally sent me another set of splitter rods lol
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on August 08, 2019, 04:18:58 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 08, 2019, 04:01:14 PM
I have my stock lower cladding thingy to make one with.  I'll try to do that.  FTR also accidentally sent me another set of splitter rods lol

Hell yea splitter time for the edge.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on August 08, 2019, 04:47:04 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 08, 2019, 04:01:14 PM
I have my stock lower cladding thingy to make one with.  I'll try to do that.  FTR also accidentally sent me another set of splitter rods lol

TAKE MY MONEY!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on August 08, 2019, 06:39:43 PM
I'll come up with something
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: Gofspar on August 08, 2019, 08:49:38 PM
goddamn, is it hot in here or just me?
sexy af.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on August 08, 2019, 10:48:34 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 08, 2019, 06:39:43 PM
I'll come up with something

If you dont I will post your number on CL asking for BBC's, and not the Big Block Chevy kind.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 76fomoco on August 08, 2019, 11:15:59 PM
Quote from: SM105K on August 08, 2019, 10:48:34 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 08, 2019, 06:39:43 PM
I'll come up with something

If you dont I will post your number on CL asking for BBC's, and not the Big Block Chevy kind.

LmFAO...
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on August 09, 2019, 05:13:36 AM
Quote from: Gofspar on August 08, 2019, 08:49:38 PM
goddamn, is it hot in here or just me?
sexy af.

Thank you!  Shes a little bit trashy eh?  God Bless Her!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on August 09, 2019, 05:16:00 AM
Quote from: SM105K on August 08, 2019, 10:48:34 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 08, 2019, 06:39:43 PM
I'll come up with something

If you dont I will post your number on CL asking for BBC's, and not the Big Block Chevy kind.

Hahahahahahahahahaha are you threatening me?  Tisk tisk.  Don't you know that is not polite?  Although it does create some.....sense of urgency to get it done. 

BULLY!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: bpd1151 on August 09, 2019, 05:56:01 AM
Hey, I want in on this splitter.....

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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on August 09, 2019, 08:47:19 AM
Quote from: SM105K on August 09, 2019, 08:46:17 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 09, 2019, 05:16:00 AM
Quote from: SM105K on August 08, 2019, 10:48:34 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 08, 2019, 06:39:43 PM
I'll come up with something

If you dont I will post your number on CL asking for BBC's, and not the Big Block Chevy kind.

Hahahahahahahahahaha are you threatening me?  Tisk tisk.  Don't you know that is not polite?  Although it does create some.....sense of urgency to get it done.

BULLY!


I AM THE GREAT CORNHOLIO! I NEED SPLITTER FOR MY SHO!  YOU WILL SURRENDER A SPLITTER!

Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on August 09, 2019, 10:55:36 AM
This is cool!  I'm glad you guys like it.  I would love to give you guys a splitter.  And to think, my GF balked at this...she said, "Are you going to leave that on your car?"  I said yeah its a splitter...she was like ...😕.  Bpd1151 already has the front chin spoiler too.  I'm not saying you need that but it goes perfectly with the splitter. 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SHOdded on August 09, 2019, 11:39:33 AM
You are going to definitely give some folks reason to have earSPLITting grins!  Maybe turn this into a group buy even if you can create a mold ;)
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on August 09, 2019, 11:51:50 AM
I want a custom one for the edge. Get cracking!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on August 09, 2019, 12:08:03 PM
I'm going to research local shops that can use my splitter as a template to make more and also cut them out of 4×8 sheets.  Also I'll see if FTR can give me a deal on rods as I believe their rods to be of much better quality than most.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: bpd1151 on August 09, 2019, 01:29:47 PM
Sub'd for updates.

Maybe consider making an entirely separate thread dedicated to the specific subject matter currently being discussed.

This way it is an easily searchable title for others that may be intrested as progress (potentially) moves forward.

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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shoNoff on August 09, 2019, 01:55:48 PM
That's it Andrew now you are a marked man. Get your ass in gear buddy.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on August 09, 2019, 02:57:41 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on August 09, 2019, 01:55:48 PM
That's it Andrew now you are a marked man. Get your ass in gear buddy.

CL.....is waiting.....
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on August 09, 2019, 05:55:07 PM
I'm going to start a thread for it.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: ZSHO on August 09, 2019, 06:09:37 PM
Need to get the ball rolling on a Patent  ;)  New Topic Discussions are always welcomed. Z  :)
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: MrCRKLPOP on December 16, 2019, 06:20:25 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 08, 2019, 06:10:24 AM
Cleaned her up a little.

man goals for my 11 nicely done
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on December 18, 2019, 05:30:16 AM
Quote from: MrCRKLPOP on December 16, 2019, 06:20:25 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 08, 2019, 06:10:24 AM
Cleaned her up a little.

man goals for my 11 nicely done

Thank you for reviving my thread as I need to get it back up to date before the year ends. 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on December 18, 2019, 09:15:10 AM
Slacker....
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on December 19, 2019, 07:03:33 PM
The next phase for my SHO, recommended by Easton (SM105K) was installing some Nitrous to lower IAT2 temps to battle Summer temps/DA at the strip.  I purchased a Zex Safe Shot Nitrous kit.  The kit itself comes with a 5lb Bottle, all lines you'll need, activation button, Toggle Switch to arm the Solenoid, the Solenoid and 5 jets ranging in HP shots of 15, 20, 25, 30 and 35. 

I installed the kit myself and used a scrap piece of ABS plastic to mount my Toggle Switch and Activation button that I secured with 3M tape.  I prefer to avoid drilling holes when possible.  I installed the Bottle in the trunk where the spare tire goes, ran my line under the car, in some of the frame and up into the engine bay, mounted the Solenoid avove the fan, and tapped into my IC to TB pipe just after the IC clamps and before my Meth Nozzles. 

I started with the 15 shot jet.  Unlike the meth nozzles, the jets can be easily changed/swapped to alternative jet sizes.  I checked with my tuner (AJPTurbo) for the "Go Ahead" confirmation and took her out.  Just before leaving, I started my SHO with the hood open, trunk open, opened the valve on the Bottle, checked for Frost(leak)...tiny bit from line connection on Bottle, closed valve, tightened, checked again..Good! 

Started with a 15 shot but ended up going completely nuts with a 75 shot.  From my Experience, I was really happy with the 35 shot, it lowered my IAT2 Dramatically with Methonal.  By as much as 50° in a single pull.

Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on December 20, 2019, 05:51:18 AM
After my datalog with the 35 shot I went to the strip August 30th and met up with Tim(ShoNoff) in his Edge Sport.  My plan was to do a couple runs without Nitrous to beat my 11.89 that I ran (1 out of 2 runs) earlier, confident I could do better than the 11.89. 

Well, when I arrived to the track at 8pm, it was closed down, break down after break down and the track closed at 10pm.  I was finally getting close to the starting line about 9:30pm and all plans of trying to beat my 11.89 without nitrous went out the window.  I was worried I wouldn't get a chance to see what the 35 shot would do, so I went for it. 

I snagged an 11.690 @ 120 against a Pontiac G8, with cams and MT Drag Radials.  He ran an 11.75.  Close race and he was a cool dude, I chatted it up while we waited forever in the staging lanes.  I was cars ahead in the right lane, just worked out that we ran at the same time.  I was like....oh great...him.?  But the SHO pulled ahead and stayed there.  He out 60ft me but my reaction was faster. 

I then hot lapped it hoping for one more and got to go against a modded Subaru STI.  Again I was out 60ft there as well, but the SHO again pulled ahead and kept her pace.  STI was right behind me though in my blind spot.  He missed 4th then let off too soon running a 12.5 to my 11.8.  I had him though, wish he didn't miss 4th it would have been closer.  My 60ft was horrible. 

Second time to the strip and a grand total of only 4 runs.  Not ideal by any means.  I'd like to do at least 4 a trip.  I've done as much as 9 runs in a single trip.  So 2 runs a trip wasn't sufficient to me to leave thinking I did my best for the night.

Video from that night.  https://youtu.be/B85FFJku83s
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on December 23, 2019, 12:57:47 PM
Next up was buying a .32 Jet for a 50 shot, also a bottle pressure gauge.  In speaking with Jordan, he suggested I swap my tire/wheel set up around to try and get a better 60ft.  I had never thought of that.  I have 245/40 front and 275/35 rear.  So I put the 275's up front and the 245's in the rear.  I left the spacers on, and the 275's up front looked tough!  Did some datalogs with 50, looked good.  Brad liked that my spark was 18-20 with big turbo, meth and nitrous. 

Took the SHO back to the track Oct 5th.  My friend joined in the fun starting at 5am that Saturday.  For being such a trooper I offered him a chance to drive, he accepted.  I had high hopes for him, being about 50 lbs lighter than me.  He never drive my car before, let alone a SHO. 

At the track we hoped to buy ice but they were all out.  We took turns me going first.  Weighed the car as well with my friend in it, weighed in at 4450.  So that's 4500 with me in it. 

First out I ran an 11.63.  Very loud exhaust backfire into 3rd.  Never heard that before.  My freind was next up, he ran an 11.70 and more backfiring.  Hmmm.  I didn't bring my laptop to datalog.  We swapped jets to a .38 Jet I assumed was a 75 shot, it wasn't, that's a .40 Jet.  So maybe it was a 65 shot?  I ran an 11.52 being the 3rd person to break the longest standing record of 11.54 by the one and only BPD 1151 and he did it with stock IC, fuel pump and all motor.  Ryan Spencer first beat it with an 11.525.  Jordan was the 2nd man to beat it with an 11.38.  I was one hundredth slower than Ryan at an 11.526.  Still, monumental goal accomplished and the car felt like she stopped pulling just shy of the finish line, still running but not pulling and I crossed the finish lime at 118, the slowest of all my runs for the day.  The backfiring, the car losing power...my miles to Empty was 6 after that run.  No longer worried about how it was acting, I realized "I'm out of fuel, literally". 

I purchased two gallons of 105 at the fuel shack.  My friend gave it a go and ran an 11.57!  He was having a blast.  Then I said, "Let's go for it!"

We took my seats out and weighed it again, this time with me sitting in it, 4350.  Let her cool down, (hood open) then took a crack at Jordan's first Record 11.38, by now he had already beat that with an 11.21? 

All of my runs were against no one.  The last one I did, the 11.52 I sat there for 6 seconds...just really wanted a good launch.  I did the same again.  Took my time and let her rip to an 11.39 @ 123!  Man she was running!  After that I decided lets call it a day, drove home happier than a pig in $hit.  Of course still wishing I did better.  Lol! 

Video from that day.  https://youtu.be/J7HGWRYmp74
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: bpd1151 on December 23, 2019, 04:15:30 PM
Flip'n awesome read!

So damn cool and gratz!!!

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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on December 23, 2019, 10:12:06 PM
Quote from: bpd1151 on December 23, 2019, 04:15:30 PM
Flip'n awesome read!

So damn cool and gratz!!!

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Thank you Sir! 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on March 13, 2020, 06:01:43 AM
Following my 11.39 run I was able to best that with an 11.368@122.68!  Every hundredth counts!  I was unable to get the entire run filmed due to my friend and son getting kicked out of the start area for lack of wrist bands as I literally was next up....I wish my friend just stayed instead and filmed me.  I would have.  I was using Dragy so I have that perspective.  Dragy is about 5 hundredths slower.  The first run out of the two was my best.  I didn't do any more runs as my datalogs were showing me I was running a little too lean and I decided to call it a day.  11.36 and 11.49 that day.  https://youtu.be/QSlnXi181Oo
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on March 13, 2020, 06:06:44 AM
Due to discovering how restrictive my OEM 10-12 Exhaust Manifolds are by following BPD1151's 2010 Rebuild Thread, I decided to look into exhaust manifold options.  The 10-12 flows roughly 14 CFM.  The 13+ flows roughly 24 CFM.  I purchased 2013+ manifolds and sent them to MaxPower Automotive, where BPD1151 is getting all of his work done.  They ported the manifolds in their entirety and port matched to the turbo flanges. 
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on March 13, 2020, 06:12:09 AM
Never thought I'd see this day so soon!  GearHead Turbos are out and being shipped today to MaxPower Automotive for Port matching to my new and now ported 13+ exhaust manifolds.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SHOdded on March 13, 2020, 08:40:25 AM
About time! :D
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on March 23, 2020, 08:34:10 PM
GH Turbos are ported now to the turbo gasket.  I didn't do flow data bc it would cost another $200.  Obviously ported flows more air.  Now I'm just waiting for my new ported 13+ manifolds to get thermal coated and then I'll be getting everything sent back to install.  I asked Matt @ Max Power Automotive if I could expect 30hp from all the porting and better flowing OEM manifolds.  He said 25-30hp is extremely realistic.  Sounds good to me.

Stock turbo on left.  My ported GH turbo on right.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 24, 2020, 05:20:59 PM
New manifolds and turbos are in.  XDI35, DW LPFP, MSD Coils, new sp542 plugs @.026, new front struts, EPP Dual CAI installed and new custom front mount Intercooler.  I went with a TreadStone TR10C intercooler rated for 666HP.  Universal 2.5" IC pipe kit, Misc silicone adapters, reducers and elbows.  Front mount wouldn't be possible if it wasnt for GotGrip? on SHOForum.  First 2010-12 with one.  GH IC is sold but not shipping until I see some results.  Also installed Braille 21 pound battery and I have custom seat brackets Jordan had made here, and Kirky lightweight racing seat and seat cover shipped.
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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: Twintrbskies on May 24, 2020, 09:55:25 PM
I would be super intrigued on the 13+ manifolds and how they work out. I got those 2010 problems as well.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 25, 2020, 05:19:39 AM
Quote from: Twintrbskies on May 24, 2020, 09:55:25 PM
I would be super intrigued on the 13+ manifolds and how they work out. I got those 2010 problems as well.
I will let you know.  One thing to consider is not only do I have the 13+ but they're ported as well.  And porting isn't really worth wild unless you port match the turbos too.  Just remember that if you port the manifolds, port match the turbos also.  But just to add the 13+ manifolds, for both manifolds is under $200.  You will need all new gaskets.  That's about 80 or so for both manifolds and turbo gaskets as well as replace gaskets in your oil/coolant lines.  Just the 13+ stock flow about double the amount of air as 10-12 manifolds.

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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: Twintrbskies on May 26, 2020, 09:53:33 PM
Honestly that's not alot of $ for better flow vs our manifolds IMO. I would like to swap them out stock vs stock just for that flow difference but depending on how much the porting runs and how much it helps might make that feasible as well.

looking forward to seeing how it works brotha.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on May 26, 2020, 11:08:36 PM
Pretty sweet upgrade for us Gen IV saps even without the porting.

The extra flow should help with heat buildup which is worse with E85 since it likes to burn hot.

I really wish I'd have known this when the turbos were replaced...

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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on May 27, 2020, 06:17:39 AM
Quote from: Twintrbskies on May 26, 2020, 09:53:33 PM
Honestly that's not alot of $ for better flow vs our manifolds IMO. I would like to swap them out stock vs stock just for that flow difference but depending on how much the porting runs and how much it helps might make that feasible as well.

looking forward to seeing how it works brotha.
At Max Power Automotive, where BPD1151 is getting his engine built, it cost me $500 for porting the new 13+ manifolds and another $100 to port match the turbos.  Thermal coating the manifolds cost $225. 

Pulling and sending my GH Turbos and swapping my manifolds over cost me my time and some skin on my knuckles!  I don't know what it would cost to pay someone to swap them over.

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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 03, 2020, 05:57:00 AM
I have data of new FMIC in comparison to GearHead IC.

My first revision for this year commands 16 psi. I did a 3rd gear pull. I found a 16 psi log from last year with GH IC. Identical ambient temps. 57.20. What are the odds? So this is a very close comparison.

Difference is I start my log last year doing the pull at 36mph. This year I start the pull 48mph. So by 79mph I hit 51° IAT2 vs 57° ambient. In that run from last yeah GH IC...I was at 89° IAT2 at 36mph so it pulled longer WOT and hit 51° at 79mph.

This year new FMIC also 16 psi tune and also 57.20 Ambient temps I was already cooler IAT2 before I started at 71°. And bc I started the pull at 48mph WOT I had less time to drop IAT2 and I hit 51° 2 mph faster than GH at 77mph.

Is it better than GH? Not necessarily. Is it worse? Absolutely not. Is it cheaper? Yes! But it will probably do more damage than good for stock turbo guys. I assume it robs more WGDC% than GH. Also GH is direct fit. The FMIC required some familiarity with a sawzall! Lol!

More tests need to be performed. But as far as first look it looks great. And for a comparison scenario...same ambient temp, same commanded 16 psi...couldn't ask for more.

I wanted to make sure it didn't underperform GH and it does not underperform. Goal met. Now let's find out what it's capable of!

GH has the nice linear IAT2 drop and is labeled Rev16.  FMIC is labeled Rev21 and has more of a sharp IAT2 drop...interesting is that IAT2 went back up for a second.  It'll be interesting to see what changes if any Brad makes to the tune...equally so what he thinks.  Still waiting for a response.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200603/c08fb30904b4f19bfc3daa0be14bc024.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200603/f3b2f4085f8cf0ea4d0e516266c7d46c.jpg)

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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: GotGrip? on June 03, 2020, 10:45:24 AM
I look forward to seeing if there's any difference at the track, less heatsoak at the line, and would be curious to see if its more effective doing the 1320!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 03, 2020, 10:53:17 AM
Quote from: GotGrip? on June 03, 2020, 10:45:24 AM
I look forward to seeing if there's any difference at the track, less heatsoak at the line, and would be curious to see if its more effective doing the 1320!
I think it will be.  I don't even know what it will do for a multigear pull yet.  I did notice just driving around it was staying pretty cool.  Like on that 3rd gear pull for my latest log I shared.  I left my spot at 110° IAT2...from a little driving to get into 3rd and launch from around 3200 rpm it was already down to 71°.  Right now waiting on an alignment appt for next Wed.  From everything I've done to the car over the months the alignment is wayy off...legit got sketchy close to 100mph for that log. 

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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: GotGrip? on June 03, 2020, 11:02:17 AM
Right on, just did some logging earlier this week around 93 degrees out, pulled just into 4th gear temps stopped 122 IAT2 so not too bad at all. Plan on getting a Cry02 C02 sprayer down the road for a little extra dip in temps.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 03, 2020, 03:19:58 PM
Quote from: GotGrip? on June 03, 2020, 11:02:17 AM
Right on, just did some logging earlier this week around 93 degrees out, pulled just into 4th gear temps stopped 122 IAT2 so not too bad at all. Plan on getting a Cry02 C02 sprayer down the road for a little extra dip in temps.
That's a good idea!  I also looked into an intercooler nitrous spray bar.  I already have nitrous so basically I got run another line to the spray bar and purge the system on the intercooler...maybe not even spray it in the engine anymore.  Not moving on that idea until I see a big need for it but it's on my mind.

Edit:  Do you have meth?  If not I would highly consider adding it.  93+meth and stock turbo, stock IC and stock fueling I hit a 12.06 full interior then I took my rear seats out and went back to the track in October that year for an 11.83.  A lot of luck went into that low 11.8 as the track was temp shut down for 3.5 hours in the am...DA was negative 1200 ft or so, and I was first down the track that morning so prep was outstanding.  Couldn't come close the rest of the day...hit a couple 11.9's and one 12.0. 

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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: GotGrip? on June 03, 2020, 03:37:33 PM
I actually don't have meth, running e30 currently, but i had considered buying a snow kit a few months back it just fell off my radar after awhile. At this point I'm pretty much stuck where I'm at unless I look into meth or fuel pump. But before I get into that, I want to hit the track and see what times I'm running and decided if I want to keep moving or roll with where I am for a bit. Pre downpipes I put down 421/503 hoping to be around 450ish now. My goal is 500whp or 11 sec 1/4 which ever comes first! (even if i have to gut the interior for the day)
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: shaundizzle15 on June 03, 2020, 06:08:10 PM
@802 what made you decide to switch intercoolers?
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 03, 2020, 07:50:22 PM
Quote from: GotGrip? on June 03, 2020, 03:37:33 PM
I actually don't have meth, running e30 currently, but i had considered buying a snow kit a few months back it just fell off my radar after awhile. At this point I'm pretty much stuck where I'm at unless I look into meth or fuel pump. But before I get into that, I want to hit the track and see what times I'm running and decided if I want to keep moving or roll with where I am for a bit. Pre downpipes I put down 421/503 hoping to be around 450ish now. My goal is 500whp or 11 sec 1/4 which ever comes first! (even if i have to gut the interior for the day)
Yeah see where you're at first.  I've had meth for so long now Idk what life would be like without it lol

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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 03, 2020, 07:52:44 PM
Quote from: shaundizzle15 on June 03, 2020, 06:08:10 PM
@802 what made you decide to switch intercoolers?
I liked the look of it.  Gotgrip? Posted it on Shoforum and I was in my garage looking at my car with the bumper off and decided I would try it.  It was a cool project.  Most time consuming part was to decide what to do, how to run the piping and what I was willing to cut out of the way lol

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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 04, 2020, 07:42:15 AM
IC will be getting painted black. Original reason to bring back the all black look of my front end. Even better reason is bc it will force it to become A LOT more efficient. Crazy just by painting it Black!! Mighty Car Mods did this test, extensive measuring of heat across IC, heat soaking it and also adding air flow. Started off with a nice shiny IC...got all their data...then painted it black. Just by painting it black it reduced temps on the outlet side by a staggering 40°! This is also without airflow. So at the track waiting in the staging lanes....this is a HUGE BENEFIT!!!

GH IC being black isnt by mistake. I'd say my new IC black will actually be a lot better than GH since with it silver its marginally better already.


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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: StealBlueSho on June 04, 2020, 07:17:13 PM
Where did you mount the AC condenser? Iirc it's bolted to the front the stock IC?


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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on June 04, 2020, 08:02:10 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on June 04, 2020, 07:17:13 PM
Where did you mount the AC condenser? Iirc it's bolted to the front the stock IC?


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The AC condenser is in the way of the IC, so with the GH IC out, you can push the AC condensor into the opening of the core support....which it doesn't really fit...so it gets wedged in there.  Will take some force to pill it back out...and I added a couple stainless steel zip ties to keep it from adjusting its position.  The radiator is fine, that sits into the bottom of the core support and bolts to the top of the core support with clips/bolts.  So the cooling stack...as far as the radiator is concerned...is same place...last.  And the AC condensor gets less airflow rather than the IC.  I still have my PP trans cooler.  So trans temps are nice and cool still.

Also above...Mighty Car Mods put out that intersting video...well the youtube channel Engineering Explained said the problem with that finding is the IC works off convection not radiation...so the reading with airflow matters most and in that case the shiny aluminum IC is more efficient than it painted black.  So not painting it black.  Bought a nitrous IC chiller bar.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200605/e6dbfea9e5f4f82cce63df71332c3ef3.jpg)

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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on August 11, 2020, 07:37:35 AM
On Friday 8/7/20 My son and I drove to New England Dragway to do a full send with the car. I didn't realize that or check to see what if any events were being held other than the fact that is was Street Night. The night before I changed the oil with Royal Purple HPS and motorcraft filter, added some Redline water wetter to my new radiator fluid, packed tools in case I blew a cloupler on the IC, everything I would need to jack the car up, take a wheel off, really any oh s*** moments I tried to bring something I could use to get myself back up and running. Brought my computer to view data logs, a few gallons of 110, my empty 5 gal pale of M1 to refill at the track, tire pressure gauge with air release to quickly drop tire pressure, 4K camcorder and Dragy. I ran the car empty and filled back up with 110.

It was packed, there was a huge line of cars well before you get close to pay to get in....then I checked...oh 603 Diesel Night....great! Track tech took forever....didn't get much time for a cool down from my 3 hour drive. Put 3 bags of ice on it and walked to the fuel shack to fill up my M1 pale that was literally empty and I needed to add some to my car before making my first pass. So much cheaper there. At home I pay 79.99 for 5 gal of M1, at the track I paid $30 to fill it so no brainer right there. Dropped my tire pressure to 28 in the front and headed to get in line. My son and my cousin who lives 30 min from the track took my camcorder to film me. I waited maybe 20 min in line to take my first pass....not bad. But I anticipated longer so I was trying to get my computer situated....and this was a full dick pass, no other seats but my Kirky Driver seat, all door panels off except the driver side and door speakers in the back doors removed. Definitely the lightest my car has even been, although I didn't bother weighing it I was unsure of being able to go. So first pass I was unable to get the log because I turned my car off and when I needed to go I couldn't reach the buttons on the computer sitting on the passenger floor as the device had lost its connection from turning the car off. Then I shallow staged on accident, thought to put it in reverse but he dropped the tree so I started late. Ran an 11.75 on Dragy which actually was 1.5 tenths too fast...that was the most Dragy has ever been off for me...it was actually an 11.90 run and of course I wasn't too happy with that time. I should be able to get into the 1.6 60 ft with my Drag tires as my best with street tires is a 1.72...but no I went 2.0 for a 60ft....like wtf? I had a 15 shot pre IC and 35 shot pre TB...the car felt like it stopped pulling right at the end of that run...which I've felt before with nitrous...never felt that ever when I'm not using nitrous....so I got mad bc I ran 11.89 last year full interior and no nitrous .....so I hot lap it and go back....I also was funneled into the left lane...at this track I've never got a good time in the left lane ever....my buddy who goes there all the time told me a couple years ago...you want the right lane, they use it for private rentals and it always has better prep. So right there I wasn't happy about having to be in the left lane. So second time around I purposely went in the right lane....well aren't they only running left now....and I literally let my car idle for 15 min...IAT2 wouldn't get above 147 but I figured that was trash too. And this isn't the first time I got pissed off and went back and ran faster....not sure how that works haha

I hit a better 60 ft a 1.79 ...I didn't touch nitrous until 3rd gear and this time it didn't stop pulling and ran 11.67. Again not happy about that....considering I ran 11.69 with a 1.86 60 ft last year in August also with full interior on street tires with a 35 shot....so what is going on?

I logged last years 11.69 so I looked at the logs back and forth back and forth so this is what happened or at least is a big part of whah happened. Last year I used a tune with 19 psi with spark capped to 18-20 and shifting at 6200 rpm. This year I'm using 20 psi with 15-16 spark and shifting at 5700. And why? Well again I'm worried about the stock motor and I want to try to use some caution.....but clearly I was faster last year and losing 5 degrees of spark and shifting early even with 1 more psi of boost didn't help. I'm happy to be able to drive home and go back and try again but it's frustrating. I want to play it safe but at the same time I want the 4 grand I spent to make a difference .....and there's always the version of being frustrated with a running car vs being frustrated with a broken car....so there's that. I'd be willing to bet if I ran last years tune and let the porting I had done and better fuel pressure the pumps and drag tires and a littler lighter make up the difference. So this is what you get to deal with when you got a stock motor....Always wondering is this is the end? Hahaha

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Title: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: StealBlueSho on August 11, 2020, 08:04:32 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 11, 2020, 07:37:35 AM
On Friday 8/7/20 My son and I drove to New England Dragway to do a full send with the car. I didn't realize that or check to see what if any events were being held other than the fact that is was Street Night. The night before I changed the oil with Royal Purple HPS and motorcraft filter, added some Redline water wetter to my new radiator fluid, packed tools in case I blew a cloupler on the IC, everything I would need to jack the car up, take a wheel off, really any oh s*** moments I tried to bring something I could use to get myself back up and running. Brought my computer to view data logs, a few gallons of 110, my empty 5 gal pale of M1 to refill at the track, tire pressure gauge with air release to quickly drop tire pressure, 4K camcorder and Dragy. I ran the car empty and filled back up with 110.

It was packed, there was a huge line of cars well before you get close to pay to get in....then I checked...oh 603 Diesel Night....great! Track tech took forever....didn't get much time for a cool down from my 3 hour drive. Put 3 bags of ice on it and walked to the fuel shack to fill up my M1 pale that was literally empty and I needed to add some to my car before making my first pass. So much cheaper there. At home I pay 79.99 for 5 gal of M1, at the track I paid $30 to fill it so no brainer right there. Dropped my tire pressure to 28 in the front and headed to get in line. My son and my cousin who lives 30 min from the track took my camcorder to film me. I waited maybe 20 min in line to take my first pass....not bad. But I anticipated longer so I was trying to get my computer situated....and this was a full dick pass, no other seats but my Kirky Driver seat, all door panels off except the driver side and door speakers in the back doors removed. Definitely the lightest my car has even been, although I didn't bother weighing it I was unsure of being able to go. So first pass I was unable to get the log because I turned my car off and when I needed to go I couldn't reach the buttons on the computer sitting on the passenger floor as the device had lost its connection from turning the car off. Then I shallow staged on accident, thought to put it in reverse but he dropped the tree so I started late. Ran an 11.75 on Dragy which actually was 1.5 tenths too fast...that was the most Dragy has ever been off for me...it was actually an 11.90 run and of course I wasn't too happy with that time. I should be able to get into the 1.6 60 ft with my Drag tires as my best with street tires is a 1.72...but no I went 2.0 for a 60ft....like wtf? I had a 15 shot pre IC and 35 shot pre TB...the car felt like it stopped pulling right at the end of that run...which I've felt before with nitrous...never felt that ever when I'm not using nitrous....so I got mad bc I ran 11.89 last year full interior and no nitrous .....so I hot lap it and go back....I also was funneled into the left lane...at this track I've never got a good time in the left lane ever....my buddy who goes there all the time told me a couple years ago...you want the right lane, they use it for private rentals and it always has better prep. So right there I wasn't happy about having to be in the left lane. So second time around I purposely went in the right lane....well aren't they only running left now....and I literally let my car idle for 15 min...IAT2 wouldn't get above 147 but I figured that was trash too. And this isn't the first time I got pissed off and went back and ran faster....not sure how that works haha

I hit a better 60 ft a 1.79 ...I didn't touch nitrous until 3rd gear and this time it didn't stop pulling and ran 11.67. Again not happy about that....considering I ran 11.69 with a 1.86 60 ft last year in August also with full interior on street tires with a 35 shot....so what is going on?

I logged last years 11.69 so I looked at the logs back and forth back and forth so this is what happened or at least is a big part of whah happened. Last year I used a tune with 19 psi with spark capped to 18-20 and shifting at 6200 rpm. This year I'm using 20 psi with 15-16 spark and shifting at 5700. And why? Well again I'm worried about the stock motor and I want to try to use some caution.....but clearly I was faster last year and losing 5 degrees of spark and shifting early even with 1 more psi of boost didn't help. I'm happy to be able to drive home and go back and try again but it's frustrating. I want to play it safe but at the same time I want the 4 grand I spent to make a difference .....and there's always the version of being frustrated with a running car vs being frustrated with a broken car....so there's that. I'd be willing to bet if I ran last years tune and let the porting I had done and better fuel pressure the pumps and drag tires and a littler lighter make up the difference. So this is what you get to deal with when you got a stock motor....Always wondering is this is the end? Hahaha

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Sounds like it was less than stellar at the track which sucks when you are hoping to get a good ET...

With all the changes you have done, I would have been surprised if your first track event yielded desired results. Takes tweaking to get there for sure! It will get better, just need some adjustments. And you need to take the diaper off and let her eat to red line :-) 500 rpms is a significant amount of the power band...

If you look at the dyno sheets with upgraded turbos, that last 1000 rpms is all power. So you are handicapping yourself with shifting early. Stock turbos drop like hot rock high up in the RPMS...

Next time hopefully will result in a different outcome!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on August 11, 2020, 08:35:51 AM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on August 11, 2020, 08:04:32 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 11, 2020, 07:37:35 AM
On Friday 8/7/20 My son and I drove to New England Dragway to do a full send with the car. I didn't realize that or check to see what if any events were being held other than the fact that is was Street Night. The night before I changed the oil with Royal Purple HPS and motorcraft filter, added some Redline water wetter to my new radiator fluid, packed tools in case I blew a cloupler on the IC, everything I would need to jack the car up, take a wheel off, really any oh s*** moments I tried to bring something I could use to get myself back up and running. Brought my computer to view data logs, a few gallons of 110, my empty 5 gal pale of M1 to refill at the track, tire pressure gauge with air release to quickly drop tire pressure, 4K camcorder and Dragy. I ran the car empty and filled back up with 110.

It was packed, there was a huge line of cars well before you get close to pay to get in....then I checked...oh 603 Diesel Night....great! Track tech took forever....didn't get much time for a cool down from my 3 hour drive. Put 3 bags of ice on it and walked to the fuel shack to fill up my M1 pale that was literally empty and I needed to add some to my car before making my first pass. So much cheaper there. At home I pay 79.99 for 5 gal of M1, at the track I paid $30 to fill it so no brainer right there. Dropped my tire pressure to 28 in the front and headed to get in line. My son and my cousin who lives 30 min from the track took my camcorder to film me. I waited maybe 20 min in line to take my first pass....not bad. But I anticipated longer so I was trying to get my computer situated....and this was a full dick pass, no other seats but my Kirky Driver seat, all door panels off except the driver side and door speakers in the back doors removed. Definitely the lightest my car has even been, although I didn't bother weighing it I was unsure of being able to go. So first pass I was unable to get the log because I turned my car off and when I needed to go I couldn't reach the buttons on the computer sitting on the passenger floor as the device had lost its connection from turning the car off. Then I shallow staged on accident, thought to put it in reverse but he dropped the tree so I started late. Ran an 11.75 on Dragy which actually was 1.5 tenths too fast...that was the most Dragy has ever been off for me...it was actually an 11.90 run and of course I wasn't too happy with that time. I should be able to get into the 1.6 60 ft with my Drag tires as my best with street tires is a 1.72...but no I went 2.0 for a 60ft....like wtf? I had a 15 shot pre IC and 35 shot pre TB...the car felt like it stopped pulling right at the end of that run...which I've felt before with nitrous...never felt that ever when I'm not using nitrous....so I got mad bc I ran 11.89 last year full interior and no nitrous .....so I hot lap it and go back....I also was funneled into the left lane...at this track I've never got a good time in the left lane ever....my buddy who goes there all the time told me a couple years ago...you want the right lane, they use it for private rentals and it always has better prep. So right there I wasn't happy about having to be in the left lane. So second time around I purposely went in the right lane....well aren't they only running left now....and I literally let my car idle for 15 min...IAT2 wouldn't get above 147 but I figured that was trash too. And this isn't the first time I got pissed off and went back and ran faster....not sure how that works haha

I hit a better 60 ft a 1.79 ...I didn't touch nitrous until 3rd gear and this time it didn't stop pulling and ran 11.67. Again not happy about that....considering I ran 11.69 with a 1.86 60 ft last year in August also with full interior on street tires with a 35 shot....so what is going on?

I logged last years 11.69 so I looked at the logs back and forth back and forth so this is what happened or at least is a big part of whah happened. Last year I used a tune with 19 psi with spark capped to 18-20 and shifting at 6200 rpm. This year I'm using 20 psi with 15-16 spark and shifting at 5700. And why? Well again I'm worried about the stock motor and I want to try to use some caution.....but clearly I was faster last year and losing 5 degrees of spark and shifting early even with 1 more psi of boost didn't help. I'm happy to be able to drive home and go back and try again but it's frustrating. I want to play it safe but at the same time I want the 4 grand I spent to make a difference .....and there's always the version of being frustrated with a running car vs being frustrated with a broken car....so there's that. I'd be willing to bet if I ran last years tune and let the porting I had done and better fuel pressure the pumps and drag tires and a littler lighter make up the difference. So this is what you get to deal with when you got a stock motor....Always wondering is this is the end? Hahaha

https://youtu.be/Z7TC5QFlz0M


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Sounds like it was less than stellar at the track which sucks when you are hoping to get a good ET...

With all the changes you have done, I would have been surprised if your first track event yielded desired results. Takes tweaking to get there for sure! It will get better, just need some adjustments. And you need to take the diaper off and let her eat to red line :-) 500 rpms is a significant amount of the power band...

If you look at the dyno sheets with upgraded turbos, that last 1000 rpms is all power. So you are handicapping yourself with shifting early. Stock turbos drop like hot rock high up in the RPMS...

Next time hopefully will result in a different outcome!
Take the diaper off hahahaha I appreciate that well spoken yet very true statement!!  To be honest I didn't realize it was tuned that way.  Like mentioned last year it was 19 psi 18-20 spark which I believe is conservative spark and the knock sensors go flat at WOT bc they aren't allowed to add timing...I'm sure they want to....so I felt that was siding with caution last year.  This year we went 20 psi and on my part I assumed it was 18-20 spark and no changes to rpm....it wasn't until I studied the logs I found the spark at 15-16 and 5700 shifting.  Which is why I think even if I ran 19 psi again and back to 20 spark and 6200 I would be maybe a 10th or 2 faster from my new mods and still be siding with caution.  So we'll see.  But it was interesting for sure that I hit lapped it and idled for so long....held off on nitrous until 3rd and ran faster. 

I still had a good time bc I just needed to see where I was at.  It did suck driving 3 hours to be there for 3 hours then drive back and only get two runs in....track prep I'm sure wasn't as good by the time I went.  All part of the game I suppose.  As per typical fashion I'll be faster as I go....which is how it's always been for me.  So long as September goes well look for a stellar performance early to mid October when DA flirts with -2000 ft.  The DA was about 1000ft there.  So also still really good. 


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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: StealBlueSho on August 11, 2020, 08:39:38 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 11, 2020, 08:35:51 AM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on August 11, 2020, 08:04:32 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 11, 2020, 07:37:35 AM
On Friday 8/7/20 My son and I drove to New England Dragway to do a full send with the car. I didn't realize that or check to see what if any events were being held other than the fact that is was Street Night. The night before I changed the oil with Royal Purple HPS and motorcraft filter, added some Redline water wetter to my new radiator fluid, packed tools in case I blew a cloupler on the IC, everything I would need to jack the car up, take a wheel off, really any oh s*** moments I tried to bring something I could use to get myself back up and running. Brought my computer to view data logs, a few gallons of 110, my empty 5 gal pale of M1 to refill at the track, tire pressure gauge with air release to quickly drop tire pressure, 4K camcorder and Dragy. I ran the car empty and filled back up with 110.

It was packed, there was a huge line of cars well before you get close to pay to get in....then I checked...oh 603 Diesel Night....great! Track tech took forever....didn't get much time for a cool down from my 3 hour drive. Put 3 bags of ice on it and walked to the fuel shack to fill up my M1 pale that was literally empty and I needed to add some to my car before making my first pass. So much cheaper there. At home I pay 79.99 for 5 gal of M1, at the track I paid $30 to fill it so no brainer right there. Dropped my tire pressure to 28 in the front and headed to get in line. My son and my cousin who lives 30 min from the track took my camcorder to film me. I waited maybe 20 min in line to take my first pass....not bad. But I anticipated longer so I was trying to get my computer situated....and this was a full dick pass, no other seats but my Kirky Driver seat, all door panels off except the driver side and door speakers in the back doors removed. Definitely the lightest my car has even been, although I didn't bother weighing it I was unsure of being able to go. So first pass I was unable to get the log because I turned my car off and when I needed to go I couldn't reach the buttons on the computer sitting on the passenger floor as the device had lost its connection from turning the car off. Then I shallow staged on accident, thought to put it in reverse but he dropped the tree so I started late. Ran an 11.75 on Dragy which actually was 1.5 tenths too fast...that was the most Dragy has ever been off for me...it was actually an 11.90 run and of course I wasn't too happy with that time. I should be able to get into the 1.6 60 ft with my Drag tires as my best with street tires is a 1.72...but no I went 2.0 for a 60ft....like wtf? I had a 15 shot pre IC and 35 shot pre TB...the car felt like it stopped pulling right at the end of that run...which I've felt before with nitrous...never felt that ever when I'm not using nitrous....so I got mad bc I ran 11.89 last year full interior and no nitrous .....so I hot lap it and go back....I also was funneled into the left lane...at this track I've never got a good time in the left lane ever....my buddy who goes there all the time told me a couple years ago...you want the right lane, they use it for private rentals and it always has better prep. So right there I wasn't happy about having to be in the left lane. So second time around I purposely went in the right lane....well aren't they only running left now....and I literally let my car idle for 15 min...IAT2 wouldn't get above 147 but I figured that was trash too. And this isn't the first time I got pissed off and went back and ran faster....not sure how that works haha

I hit a better 60 ft a 1.79 ...I didn't touch nitrous until 3rd gear and this time it didn't stop pulling and ran 11.67. Again not happy about that....considering I ran 11.69 with a 1.86 60 ft last year in August also with full interior on street tires with a 35 shot....so what is going on?

I logged last years 11.69 so I looked at the logs back and forth back and forth so this is what happened or at least is a big part of whah happened. Last year I used a tune with 19 psi with spark capped to 18-20 and shifting at 6200 rpm. This year I'm using 20 psi with 15-16 spark and shifting at 5700. And why? Well again I'm worried about the stock motor and I want to try to use some caution.....but clearly I was faster last year and losing 5 degrees of spark and shifting early even with 1 more psi of boost didn't help. I'm happy to be able to drive home and go back and try again but it's frustrating. I want to play it safe but at the same time I want the 4 grand I spent to make a difference .....and there's always the version of being frustrated with a running car vs being frustrated with a broken car....so there's that. I'd be willing to bet if I ran last years tune and let the porting I had done and better fuel pressure the pumps and drag tires and a littler lighter make up the difference. So this is what you get to deal with when you got a stock motor....Always wondering is this is the end? Hahaha

https://youtu.be/Z7TC5QFlz0M


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Sounds like it was less than stellar at the track which sucks when you are hoping to get a good ET...

With all the changes you have done, I would have been surprised if your first track event yielded desired results. Takes tweaking to get there for sure! It will get better, just need some adjustments. And you need to take the diaper off and let her eat to red line :-) 500 rpms is a significant amount of the power band...

If you look at the dyno sheets with upgraded turbos, that last 1000 rpms is all power. So you are handicapping yourself with shifting early. Stock turbos drop like hot rock high up in the RPMS...

Next time hopefully will result in a different outcome!
Take the diaper off hahahaha I appreciate that well spoken yet very true statement!!  To be honest I didn't realize it was tuned that way.  Like mentioned last year it was 19 psi 18-20 spark which I believe is conservative spark and the knock sensors go flat at WOT bc they aren't allowed to add timing...I'm sure they want to....so I felt that was siding with caution last year.  This year we went 20 psi and on my part I assumed it was 18-20 spark and no changes to rpm....it wasn't until I studied the logs I found the spark at 15-16 and 5700 shifting.  Which is why I think even if I ran 19 psi again and back to 20 spark and 6200 I would be maybe a 10th or 2 faster from my new mods and still be siding with caution.  So we'll see.  But it was interesting for sure that I hit lapped it and idled for so long....held off on nitrous until 3rd and ran faster. 

I still had a good time bc I just needed to see where I was at.  It did suck driving 3 hours to be there for 3 hours then drive back and only get two runs in....track prep I'm sure wasn't as good by the time I went.  All part of the game I suppose.  As per typical fashion I'll be faster as I go....which is how it's always been for me.  So long as September goes well look for a stellar performance early to mid October when DA flirts with -2000 ft.  The DA was about 1000ft there.  So also still really good. 


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Glad it was fun over all!!!

I'm betting the 5700 shift was an accident... I have run into that almost every time I did a major modification that resulted in a significant increase in power.. both Matt and Brad mention it's a torque limiter that causes it...

I have faith it will all get worked out!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on August 11, 2020, 01:23:45 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on August 11, 2020, 08:39:38 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 11, 2020, 08:35:51 AM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on August 11, 2020, 08:04:32 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 11, 2020, 07:37:35 AM
On Friday 8/7/20 My son and I drove to New England Dragway to do a full send with the car. I didn't realize that or check to see what if any events were being held other than the fact that is was Street Night. The night before I changed the oil with Royal Purple HPS and motorcraft filter, added some Redline water wetter to my new radiator fluid, packed tools in case I blew a cloupler on the IC, everything I would need to jack the car up, take a wheel off, really any oh s*** moments I tried to bring something I could use to get myself back up and running. Brought my computer to view data logs, a few gallons of 110, my empty 5 gal pale of M1 to refill at the track, tire pressure gauge with air release to quickly drop tire pressure, 4K camcorder and Dragy. I ran the car empty and filled back up with 110.

It was packed, there was a huge line of cars well before you get close to pay to get in....then I checked...oh 603 Diesel Night....great! Track tech took forever....didn't get much time for a cool down from my 3 hour drive. Put 3 bags of ice on it and walked to the fuel shack to fill up my M1 pale that was literally empty and I needed to add some to my car before making my first pass. So much cheaper there. At home I pay 79.99 for 5 gal of M1, at the track I paid $30 to fill it so no brainer right there. Dropped my tire pressure to 28 in the front and headed to get in line. My son and my cousin who lives 30 min from the track took my camcorder to film me. I waited maybe 20 min in line to take my first pass....not bad. But I anticipated longer so I was trying to get my computer situated....and this was a full dick pass, no other seats but my Kirky Driver seat, all door panels off except the driver side and door speakers in the back doors removed. Definitely the lightest my car has even been, although I didn't bother weighing it I was unsure of being able to go. So first pass I was unable to get the log because I turned my car off and when I needed to go I couldn't reach the buttons on the computer sitting on the passenger floor as the device had lost its connection from turning the car off. Then I shallow staged on accident, thought to put it in reverse but he dropped the tree so I started late. Ran an 11.75 on Dragy which actually was 1.5 tenths too fast...that was the most Dragy has ever been off for me...it was actually an 11.90 run and of course I wasn't too happy with that time. I should be able to get into the 1.6 60 ft with my Drag tires as my best with street tires is a 1.72...but no I went 2.0 for a 60ft....like wtf? I had a 15 shot pre IC and 35 shot pre TB...the car felt like it stopped pulling right at the end of that run...which I've felt before with nitrous...never felt that ever when I'm not using nitrous....so I got mad bc I ran 11.89 last year full interior and no nitrous .....so I hot lap it and go back....I also was funneled into the left lane...at this track I've never got a good time in the left lane ever....my buddy who goes there all the time told me a couple years ago...you want the right lane, they use it for private rentals and it always has better prep. So right there I wasn't happy about having to be in the left lane. So second time around I purposely went in the right lane....well aren't they only running left now....and I literally let my car idle for 15 min...IAT2 wouldn't get above 147 but I figured that was trash too. And this isn't the first time I got pissed off and went back and ran faster....not sure how that works haha

I hit a better 60 ft a 1.79 ...I didn't touch nitrous until 3rd gear and this time it didn't stop pulling and ran 11.67. Again not happy about that....considering I ran 11.69 with a 1.86 60 ft last year in August also with full interior on street tires with a 35 shot....so what is going on?

I logged last years 11.69 so I looked at the logs back and forth back and forth so this is what happened or at least is a big part of whah happened. Last year I used a tune with 19 psi with spark capped to 18-20 and shifting at 6200 rpm. This year I'm using 20 psi with 15-16 spark and shifting at 5700. And why? Well again I'm worried about the stock motor and I want to try to use some caution.....but clearly I was faster last year and losing 5 degrees of spark and shifting early even with 1 more psi of boost didn't help. I'm happy to be able to drive home and go back and try again but it's frustrating. I want to play it safe but at the same time I want the 4 grand I spent to make a difference .....and there's always the version of being frustrated with a running car vs being frustrated with a broken car....so there's that. I'd be willing to bet if I ran last years tune and let the porting I had done and better fuel pressure the pumps and drag tires and a littler lighter make up the difference. So this is what you get to deal with when you got a stock motor....Always wondering is this is the end? Hahaha

https://youtu.be/Z7TC5QFlz0M


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Sounds like it was less than stellar at the track which sucks when you are hoping to get a good ET...

With all the changes you have done, I would have been surprised if your first track event yielded desired results. Takes tweaking to get there for sure! It will get better, just need some adjustments. And you need to take the diaper off and let her eat to red line :-) 500 rpms is a significant amount of the power band...

If you look at the dyno sheets with upgraded turbos, that last 1000 rpms is all power. So you are handicapping yourself with shifting early. Stock turbos drop like hot rock high up in the RPMS...

Next time hopefully will result in a different outcome!
Take the diaper off hahahaha I appreciate that well spoken yet very true statement!!  To be honest I didn't realize it was tuned that way.  Like mentioned last year it was 19 psi 18-20 spark which I believe is conservative spark and the knock sensors go flat at WOT bc they aren't allowed to add timing...I'm sure they want to....so I felt that was siding with caution last year.  This year we went 20 psi and on my part I assumed it was 18-20 spark and no changes to rpm....it wasn't until I studied the logs I found the spark at 15-16 and 5700 shifting.  Which is why I think even if I ran 19 psi again and back to 20 spark and 6200 I would be maybe a 10th or 2 faster from my new mods and still be siding with caution.  So we'll see.  But it was interesting for sure that I hit lapped it and idled for so long....held off on nitrous until 3rd and ran faster. 

I still had a good time bc I just needed to see where I was at.  It did suck driving 3 hours to be there for 3 hours then drive back and only get two runs in....track prep I'm sure wasn't as good by the time I went.  All part of the game I suppose.  As per typical fashion I'll be faster as I go....which is how it's always been for me.  So long as September goes well look for a stellar performance early to mid October when DA flirts with -2000 ft.  The DA was about 1000ft there.  So also still really good. 


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Glad it was fun over all!!!

I'm betting the 5700 shift was an accident... I have run into that almost every time I did a major modification that resulted in a significant increase in power.. both Matt and Brad mention it's a torque limiter that causes it...

I have faith it will all get worked out!
I talked to Brad about it.  He purposely did that bc he's read recently high rpm stresses things exponentially.  He said things have gone boom with 20 psi 20 spark and 6200 rpm.  And even if you have no knock things can fail from a pure power perspective.  I'm willing to risk it with a similar tune from last year since I've already taken it to that level.  And a huge plus is my fuel pressure this year.  Last year I would make 2400 psi and maintain....but playing with nitrous it would dip to about 1100 but recover and actually in the log from last year the 11.69 it dipped a few times .....this year even with nitrous it makes 2800 and doesn't skip a beat so that's a huge step out of danger zone


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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: GotGrip? on August 11, 2020, 02:11:34 PM
Are you running 91/93 or e30?
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on August 11, 2020, 04:17:59 PM
Quote from: GotGrip? on August 11, 2020, 02:11:34 PM
Are you running 91/93 or e30?
I run 93 and meth.  On the way to the track I ran it empty about 10 miles to E and switched to 110 octane


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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: StealBlueSho on August 11, 2020, 05:31:37 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 11, 2020, 01:23:45 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on August 11, 2020, 08:39:38 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 11, 2020, 08:35:51 AM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on August 11, 2020, 08:04:32 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 11, 2020, 07:37:35 AM
On Friday 8/7/20 My son and I drove to New England Dragway to do a full send with the car. I didn't realize that or check to see what if any events were being held other than the fact that is was Street Night. The night before I changed the oil with Royal Purple HPS and motorcraft filter, added some Redline water wetter to my new radiator fluid, packed tools in case I blew a cloupler on the IC, everything I would need to jack the car up, take a wheel off, really any oh s*** moments I tried to bring something I could use to get myself back up and running. Brought my computer to view data logs, a few gallons of 110, my empty 5 gal pale of M1 to refill at the track, tire pressure gauge with air release to quickly drop tire pressure, 4K camcorder and Dragy. I ran the car empty and filled back up with 110.

It was packed, there was a huge line of cars well before you get close to pay to get in....then I checked...oh 603 Diesel Night....great! Track tech took forever....didn't get much time for a cool down from my 3 hour drive. Put 3 bags of ice on it and walked to the fuel shack to fill up my M1 pale that was literally empty and I needed to add some to my car before making my first pass. So much cheaper there. At home I pay 79.99 for 5 gal of M1, at the track I paid $30 to fill it so no brainer right there. Dropped my tire pressure to 28 in the front and headed to get in line. My son and my cousin who lives 30 min from the track took my camcorder to film me. I waited maybe 20 min in line to take my first pass....not bad. But I anticipated longer so I was trying to get my computer situated....and this was a full dick pass, no other seats but my Kirky Driver seat, all door panels off except the driver side and door speakers in the back doors removed. Definitely the lightest my car has even been, although I didn't bother weighing it I was unsure of being able to go. So first pass I was unable to get the log because I turned my car off and when I needed to go I couldn't reach the buttons on the computer sitting on the passenger floor as the device had lost its connection from turning the car off. Then I shallow staged on accident, thought to put it in reverse but he dropped the tree so I started late. Ran an 11.75 on Dragy which actually was 1.5 tenths too fast...that was the most Dragy has ever been off for me...it was actually an 11.90 run and of course I wasn't too happy with that time. I should be able to get into the 1.6 60 ft with my Drag tires as my best with street tires is a 1.72...but no I went 2.0 for a 60ft....like wtf? I had a 15 shot pre IC and 35 shot pre TB...the car felt like it stopped pulling right at the end of that run...which I've felt before with nitrous...never felt that ever when I'm not using nitrous....so I got mad bc I ran 11.89 last year full interior and no nitrous .....so I hot lap it and go back....I also was funneled into the left lane...at this track I've never got a good time in the left lane ever....my buddy who goes there all the time told me a couple years ago...you want the right lane, they use it for private rentals and it always has better prep. So right there I wasn't happy about having to be in the left lane. So second time around I purposely went in the right lane....well aren't they only running left now....and I literally let my car idle for 15 min...IAT2 wouldn't get above 147 but I figured that was trash too. And this isn't the first time I got pissed off and went back and ran faster....not sure how that works haha

I hit a better 60 ft a 1.79 ...I didn't touch nitrous until 3rd gear and this time it didn't stop pulling and ran 11.67. Again not happy about that....considering I ran 11.69 with a 1.86 60 ft last year in August also with full interior on street tires with a 35 shot....so what is going on?

I logged last years 11.69 so I looked at the logs back and forth back and forth so this is what happened or at least is a big part of whah happened. Last year I used a tune with 19 psi with spark capped to 18-20 and shifting at 6200 rpm. This year I'm using 20 psi with 15-16 spark and shifting at 5700. And why? Well again I'm worried about the stock motor and I want to try to use some caution.....but clearly I was faster last year and losing 5 degrees of spark and shifting early even with 1 more psi of boost didn't help. I'm happy to be able to drive home and go back and try again but it's frustrating. I want to play it safe but at the same time I want the 4 grand I spent to make a difference .....and there's always the version of being frustrated with a running car vs being frustrated with a broken car....so there's that. I'd be willing to bet if I ran last years tune and let the porting I had done and better fuel pressure the pumps and drag tires and a littler lighter make up the difference. So this is what you get to deal with when you got a stock motor....Always wondering is this is the end? Hahaha

https://youtu.be/Z7TC5QFlz0M


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Sounds like it was less than stellar at the track which sucks when you are hoping to get a good ET...

With all the changes you have done, I would have been surprised if your first track event yielded desired results. Takes tweaking to get there for sure! It will get better, just need some adjustments. And you need to take the diaper off and let her eat to red line :-) 500 rpms is a significant amount of the power band...

If you look at the dyno sheets with upgraded turbos, that last 1000 rpms is all power. So you are handicapping yourself with shifting early. Stock turbos drop like hot rock high up in the RPMS...

Next time hopefully will result in a different outcome!
Take the diaper off hahahaha I appreciate that well spoken yet very true statement!!  To be honest I didn't realize it was tuned that way.  Like mentioned last year it was 19 psi 18-20 spark which I believe is conservative spark and the knock sensors go flat at WOT bc they aren't allowed to add timing...I'm sure they want to....so I felt that was siding with caution last year.  This year we went 20 psi and on my part I assumed it was 18-20 spark and no changes to rpm....it wasn't until I studied the logs I found the spark at 15-16 and 5700 shifting.  Which is why I think even if I ran 19 psi again and back to 20 spark and 6200 I would be maybe a 10th or 2 faster from my new mods and still be siding with caution.  So we'll see.  But it was interesting for sure that I hit lapped it and idled for so long....held off on nitrous until 3rd and ran faster. 

I still had a good time bc I just needed to see where I was at.  It did suck driving 3 hours to be there for 3 hours then drive back and only get two runs in....track prep I'm sure wasn't as good by the time I went.  All part of the game I suppose.  As per typical fashion I'll be faster as I go....which is how it's always been for me.  So long as September goes well look for a stellar performance early to mid October when DA flirts with -2000 ft.  The DA was about 1000ft there.  So also still really good. 


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Glad it was fun over all!!!

I'm betting the 5700 shift was an accident... I have run into that almost every time I did a major modification that resulted in a significant increase in power.. both Matt and Brad mention it's a torque limiter that causes it...

I have faith it will all get worked out!
I talked to Brad about it.  He purposely did that bc he's read recently high rpm stresses things exponentially.  He said things have gone boom with 20 psi 20 spark and 6200 rpm.  And even if you have no knock things can fail from a pure power perspective.  I'm willing to risk it with a similar tune from last year since I've already taken it to that level.  And a huge plus is my fuel pressure this year.  Last year I would make 2400 psi and maintain....but playing with nitrous it would dip to about 1100 but recover and actually in the log from last year the 11.69 it dipped a few times .....this year even with nitrous it makes 2800 and doesn't skip a beat so that's a huge step out of danger zone


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Gotcha, well if it was intentional then ya, your knee capping yourself lol...

Sounds like a motor build might be around the corner :-)
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: Macgyver on August 12, 2020, 12:42:11 AM
What about Nitrous after the 1-2 shift ? Is the gear too short to make the best of it ?

I think your 60' is "slow" for what you want/expect from the SHO. Isnt the rule of thumb. Fast 60' is better for the SHO 1/4 even if you trap less top end ?
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on August 12, 2020, 05:20:36 AM
Quote from: Macgyver on August 12, 2020, 12:42:11 AM
What about Nitrous after the 1-2 shift ? Is the gear too short to make the best of it ?

I think your 60' is "slow" for what you want/expect from the SHO. Isnt the rule of thumb. Fast 60' is better for the SHO 1/4 even if you trap less top end ?
For my first time with the radials yes my 60 ft wasn't good at all.  I need to get those tires to hook and I should be in the upper 1.6 range with them.  Being that it was at night and my first time having two jets so two buttons...I couldn't see them very well, was trying to feel for them and get my hand in a comfortable position, I hit the pre IC 15 shot jet first while in 1st and then added the 35 shot pre TB after shifting into 2nd and it didn't hook I think I spun....also I tried this with TC on, something I've been messing with recently it seems to help keep the car faster with TC on most of the time I've tried it.  So second hot lap where I should have been slower as now I got everything hot and put the phenolic spacer to the test.....I wondered if I even needed nitrous at all bc I shouldn't for an 11.9.  And I've always used TC off at the track previously so I figured I would just do what I always do and leave TC off for the next pass, and not touch nitrous until 3rd.  I still spun a little in first but cut the 2.0 60 ft to a 1.79 which I definitely shouldn't need radials for....but I have no idea if track prep was all that good to begin with getting there so late and in the usually worse prepped left lane.  So idk.  I feel confident I'll snag a 1.6 60 ft before the season is over up here


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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: Macgyver on August 12, 2020, 11:14:55 PM
You have everything you need. You just gotta tweak it as people have said. I feel confident that once you are comfortable and can get your 1.6ish 60ft you will get the numbers you want.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on August 13, 2020, 10:34:02 AM
Andrew what tire pressure are you running the radials at?
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on August 13, 2020, 10:47:34 AM
Quote from: SM105K on August 13, 2020, 10:34:02 AM
Andrew what tire pressure are you running the radials at?
I tried 28 psi at the track


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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on August 13, 2020, 11:10:12 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 13, 2020, 10:47:34 AM
Quote from: SM105K on August 13, 2020, 10:34:02 AM
Andrew what tire pressure are you running the radials at?
I tried 28 psi at the track


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Drag radials are goofy.  My BFG's on my Mustang liked high 20's.  My Mickey Thompson's on the same car liked around 18 psi.   Do some street  launches 0 to 60.  I would air them up to 34 and start launching. Each time decrease by 4 psi.  See what happens.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on August 13, 2020, 05:58:07 PM
Quote from: SM105K on August 13, 2020, 11:10:12 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on August 13, 2020, 10:47:34 AM
Quote from: SM105K on August 13, 2020, 10:34:02 AM
Andrew what tire pressure are you running the radials at?
I tried 28 psi at the track


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Drag radials are goofy.  My BFG's on my Mustang liked high 20's.  My Mickey Thompson's on the same car liked around 18 psi.   Do some street  launches 0 to 60.  I would air them up to 34 and start launching. Each time decrease by 4 psi.  See what happens.
Sounds like RIP trans lol!  Does sound like a good idea though. 


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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on August 14, 2020, 11:00:55 AM
Trans replacements arent that hard.  You just take it to a shop and they charge you 5 grand to change it out.  Super easy....ask me how I know.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on September 07, 2020, 09:08:32 PM
New PB 11.14 @ 123.34 MPH!!

Started out a bit of a $hit show which I'll share later but for now here are the highlights of my trip to NED 9/6/20!!


https://youtu.be/LjzG0mPFGMo


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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: bpd1151 on September 07, 2020, 09:09:33 PM
Impressive!

Bravo!

applause

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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: StealBlueSho on September 07, 2020, 09:11:03 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on September 07, 2020, 09:08:32 PM
New PB 11.14 @ 123.34 MPH!!

Started out a bit of a $hit show which I'll share later but for now here are the highlights of my trip to NED 9/6/20!!


https://youtu.be/LjzG0mPFGMo


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Again, congrats!!! Thank you for sharing!  It is awesome you are doing new things, informing the community, trying to further the platform and everyone involved. All on your own time and effort! 10's are coming buddy!!!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on September 07, 2020, 09:58:10 PM
Quote from: bpd1151 on September 07, 2020, 09:09:33 PM
Impressive!

Bravo!

applause

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Thank you Sir


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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on September 07, 2020, 09:59:07 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on September 07, 2020, 09:11:03 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on September 07, 2020, 09:08:32 PM
New PB 11.14 @ 123.34 MPH!!

Started out a bit of a $hit show which I'll share later but for now here are the highlights of my trip to NED 9/6/20!!


https://youtu.be/LjzG0mPFGMo


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Again, congrats!!! Thank you for sharing!  It is awesome you are doing new things, informing the community, trying to further the platform and everyone involved. All on your own time and effort! 10's are coming buddy!!!
Thanks Mike and we'll find out if I can make magic happen in October!  Thanks for the continuing support!!


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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: Macgyver on September 07, 2020, 11:46:17 PM
WOW Congratulations !!!

So what happens if you can improve that 60' ?
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on September 08, 2020, 07:13:46 AM
Quote from: Macgyver on September 07, 2020, 11:46:17 PM
WOW Congratulations !!!

So what happens if you can improve that 60' ?
I like the 60ft but better would be better obviously.  I think it needs to pull harder 3-5.  Or maybe I could complete dismiss reaction time and just sit and spool like I did last year. 


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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on September 08, 2020, 07:14:09 AM
So what happened was I decided to trailer my my car to the track for a couple reasons. 1) It'll be cold and I'll actually want some staging lane time for it to warm up vs avoiding the car getting warmer. 2) I'm pushing the stock internals and in the event of an untimely problem I'll save boat loads of expenses by trailering it myself to and from.

I reserved a trailer at UHaul and planned on picking it up same day I was leaving which was 9/5/20 the day before. I arrived an hour early and they told me they had a slight problem...the trailer I reserved wasn't back the day before and it had been reported stolen. So in a pinch I borrowed a friends trailer, which by this time I had committed to taking weight reduction a bit further than ever before. Really it was pretty easy as one thing led to another, the more I took out the easier it was to keep going. My weight with me in it for my 11.36 was 4320. The weight with me in it this time was 4050. 270lbs. Wow!

Track tech took too long I missed the first Test and Tune call. I brought two camcorders. I was able to bring along my GF of 6 years and she was with me for my first time at the track with the car back in 2018 but since this was the second time ever going. She recorded me as well. She was in the pit area and my cousin who lives in NH was filming from the stands.

First time up I wanted the right lane and I was in the right lane, but the traffic guy wanted me in left and we got into a little bit of an argument bc at this track the right lane is gold for me....so I ended up going in left. The car launched so hard and I hit both my nitrous jets at the top of 1st or so or beginning of second and about 60 ....cut throttle hard...no power...I let off. My GF said "Wow honey 20 second quarter mile that has to be a record". She got it on film but my cousin accidentally had it in picture only.

It behaved like a slipped IC coupler ...sudden loss of power but running great, sounding great. I jacked the car up and looked over all my couplers...checked everything...looked solid except my nitrous line from the adapter going to the IC jet pre solenoid was leaking. Oh so slightly leaking but I found it was actually defective...the crimp before the threaded end was not secure and from wiggling it I got a little mist on my finger...just mist but damn. So going forward I avoided that solenoid although it was pre solenoid so I'm not sure if I was getting a full shot or not with the Pre TB jet which was a 50 shot jet. Took the car for a quick spin out of the track and it had boost and felt great. Now for whatever stupid reason I didn't bring any ice...so cool down was hood open and wait lol

They took forever to call the next test and tune...to the car's advantage. About 1.5 hours later I went up for round 2 hoping it didn't do the same throttle cut again. Not sure if I hit a torque limiter or what. I decided to not touch nitrous until 3rd. Ripped the 11.14! Haha nice!! Let the car air cool for about 40 min then tried again. This time with a 75 shot jet but who knows what it sprayed and I think my bottle emptied on that run...I wished I filled it up beforehand..some oversight there. The temps rose from 75 to 79 and my IAT2 was about 25-30 degrees hotter starting which was about 110-115. Again waited until 3rd hit the 75 shot and ran 11.22.

I've got a nitrous line to replace, ice to bring and 30 degree cooler air and about 1,000 less DA and we'll see if I can snag a 10.


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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on September 08, 2020, 11:33:54 AM
LET'S GO!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: bamsho on September 08, 2020, 12:36:15 PM
Yeah think we all have been there at some point,  I know I've had plenty of mine.   That was excellent run for all that happened that day.




Your track really must of had it prepped great.  I love your 60fts, just WOW.   


I have no doubt that your car will hit 10s,  your that close.




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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on September 08, 2020, 01:05:01 PM
I have a chance I just hope the car is up to the task along with near perfect temps and DA it has a shot.  If the impossible becomes possible.


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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: SM105K on September 08, 2020, 01:19:42 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on September 08, 2020, 01:05:01 PM
I have a chance I just hope the car is up to the task along with near perfect temps and DA it has a shot.  If the impossible becomes possible.


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You are there.  The line will be fixed soon. If you grab the unit in second gear and have the same 60 foot, and go 7.0 in the quarter it is done.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on October 06, 2020, 06:34:43 AM
Heading back to the drag strip 10-10 New England Dragway.  Meeting with 3 other SHO's for sure, another 3 or so have shown interest.  Anyone else care to join??  Admission is $40, pit crew is $20 and general admission is $15.  Opens at 8am racing starts at 9am. 

I just went through almost a complete fluid swap minus the trans fluid.  It's got less than 900 miles on it..everything does.  But I couldn't help myself and I changed the PTU and RDU again.  And treated my motor to Filet Mignon haha Royal Purple XPR (Extreme Performance Racing) 5w30 oil.  $120 oil and filter change with the proven efficient Motorcraft filter. 

Nitrous leak fixed, full bottle of nitrous ready, VP C85 waiting for me at the track.  Mixing a cocktail of 110 octane and C85 for E30.  DA expected to be in -1000 ft and 46-50 degrees and air density at 102-103%.  Lets do this!


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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: GotGrip? on October 06, 2020, 11:04:03 AM
GIT IT GUUURRRLLLLL


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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on October 06, 2020, 11:13:52 AM
Yeah baby


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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: bamsho on October 06, 2020, 11:58:02 AM
You can do it!!!!
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on October 07, 2020, 06:28:16 AM
Thanks Brian!!


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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on October 29, 2020, 05:46:53 AM
I am very pleased to announce that I am now sponsored by Xtreme-DI! Uwe Ostmann and I worked out a deal but there's one catch...I go back to the track now....this Saturday and attempt to break the elusive 10 second quarter mile time!!

The build plans have drastically changed and all of our fueling needs are now met! Uwe overnightede his new Xtreme-DI 50%+ Injectors and is letting me swap out my XDI35 for the new EVO HPFP!! The injectors are in and EVO HPFP installed!!

An installation video is now coming soon!! And just in case you're wondering...I am not a mechanic...so this is very doable and you'll get to see how it's done. I couldn't have done the install without help from @Jordan_R and @Ecoboost_xsport!

Yesterday's unboxing video...install video footage is complete just need to edit it.


https://youtu.be/7rIHcnLhw4U


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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: bpd1151 on October 29, 2020, 09:36:29 AM
OUTSTANDING!

1st of anything I did upon waking up just now, was to read this post.

XDI's definitely providing THE SOLUTION(s) to address the known fueling issues for this platform when goofs like us (& there's a growing number of "us") turn up the wick on these EB's.

Very excited for you!

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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on October 29, 2020, 09:41:38 AM
Quote from: bpd1151 on October 29, 2020, 09:36:29 AM
OUTSTANDING!

1st of anything I did upon waking up just now, was to read this post.

XDI's definitely providing THE SOLUTION(s) to address the known fueling issues for this platform when goofs like us (& there's a growing number of "us") turn up the wick on these EB's.

Very excited for you!

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Thanks Mike!! It's like a domino effect too...watching what you do and Jordan, along with everyone else keeps the constant pressure there to try and be better....constantly!! Taking a chunk of inspiration from everyone!


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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on November 03, 2020, 06:58:06 AM
Hey Guys, check out the Xtreme-DI +50% injector install as well as EVO swap.  I found something while swapping HPFP's that you'll definitely want to see and look out for.  Basically give everything a good visual inspection. 

The track closed a day early on me so I started testing on the street.  Tuning is still not 100% but it's a work in progress!  Results coming soon! 

Check out the video on my YouTube and look for links in the description for How To remove the intake manifold and install Phenolic Spacer.  Also for any fueling needs definitely go to Xtreme-DI. Com.  You can also make multiple performance part purchases for fueling, suspension, engine upgrades and general performance upgrades at OrtizPerformance.Com

https://youtu.be/4k4a3cDNsIc


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Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on January 19, 2023, 05:30:39 AM
Getting closer
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: Macgyver on January 19, 2023, 11:57:37 AM
So what is the idea on that IC ?  It doesnt look like outside air will flow through it.
Title: Re: 802SHO 2010 Build
Post by: 802SHO on January 19, 2023, 12:39:22 PM
Quote from: Macgyver on January 19, 2023, 11:57:37 AM
So what is the idea on that IC ?  It doesnt look like outside air will flow through it.


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