I'm going to go ahead and close the thread and put my thoughts here.
You can read through my various interactions with LMS over the years including the great E85 debates back in 2013 when I started using it and they claimed that ethanol wasn't a viable option. I also called them on having a single 91 octane tune across the country, 91 octane tunes for AZ cars won't work the same as a 91 octane tune from the southeast due to temps and the crap California gas we have here, yes 91 octane from California is WAY worse than 91 octane from Texas.
My company literally started by working with PPE to make a downpipe that wasn't super expensive (at the time) and that could actually pass all emissions readiness checks. The competition caused LMS to immediately drop their prices to match the new lows, over the years the prices have slowly gone up. I don't really compete with them, I sell my charge pipes (which I've heard repeatedly that they have said not to purchase) and I guess now with my cold air it competes with their Airaid rebranded intake.
Being 100% transparent they have sent me a tuner back in the day and I used it on one of the wife's trucks for a bit. Wasn't an amazing tune but it was a off the shelf box tune.
The concerning part is that they have so many issues and such high prices with people who bring their cars to them but if people are willing to pay that and aren't able to find other resources then so be it.
All that being said with BPD Mike's new position on LMS, I'm curious if he's willing to talk about the scenario where he was a moderator on this forum with Dave (rembmered it) and them working behind the scenes specifically to promote LMS to new members via PMs back in the day and how that all played out with them, that is the main reason why I really don't like LMS and causes me concern. Dave literally went to work for them later as a sales guy....
These items are out in the open for people to see and refer to, the thread will be locked but not deleted and can be referred to by various people as a resource for why not to use them.
Remember this was never a tuner comparison thread for performance, this was a why is there issues with big builds and be aware to our members thread.
I'll leave this open for comments for the next 48 hours then I'll close it permanently
Mike