Has anyone here had any dealing with NE SHO or the guy from there who's selling the X pipes for the 2010+ SHO?
If you have NOT then beware.... as I have. He had 2 of them listed with ebay, I purchased one. I PAID INSTANTLY with Pay Pal and was told item was already made, just waiting to be shipped out....
4 days later, my item has NOT BEEN SHIPPED, NO TRACKING NUMBER and for sure NO DAMN REFUND. Ive gotten over 8 messages for the guy with many different reasons for NOT shipping... And lets face it, if you're selling an item on ebay there is (in my mind) NO GOOD REASON FOR TAKING 4 DAYS TO SHIP AFTER ITEM HAS BEEN PAID FOR.
So, don't mean to yell but if you have not purchased anything from this guy then id suggest you DONT.
Guys name is Kirk Doucette....
I didn't think NESHO was operating any more. The EBay ads were probably for closeout/inventory clearance reasons. It does take a while to get in touch with him, I hope he responds/ships the product out to you soon!
He closed his business after finalizing a divorce and some very serious, personal issues that affected his children.
Won't go into details on the latter.
So, what's he doing now just PRETENDING TO HAVE PRODUCTS to cheat individuals out of their cash?
Well too bad for him...then he shouldn't be trying to sell things on eBay for extra cash...he needs to handle his business. I'd file a report with eBay ...boo hoo u won't get any sympathy from me for a divorce..he made his bed
I agree, there's no excuse.
Do what you need to rectify the situation, in a timely manor, OP. There's recourse without being cutthroat as well.
My opinion on the matter has never been the same since 2008, after losing out on nearly 900 bucks for a custom turbo manifold that never came.
Don't attempt to do business if you can't manage it, or any of the curveballs which might come your way.
I filed a complaint with ebay. They told me the funds I paid via Pay Pal had been put on hold and he cant access it. Once the item arrives, if it does arrive... Accept it, then contact them.
Once I show a tracking number that I sent it back they will REFUND me my cash...
I cant account for what has taken place in his life, but I paid for the item instantly with pay pal, it SHOULD NOT TAKE 5 days after payment to mail anything and to boot, he's stop responding....
All I can say is KEEP MY CASE IN MIND if you come across him selling something...
It's one thing to not ship timely but when they stop responding that takes it to another level...Not only are they screwing you but then rubbing it in your face because they know you are powerless....Might seem extreme but if I didn't have a lot to lose I'd choke someone til they stopped breathing and sleep like a baby at night...They could keep my money it would be worth watching their eyes bug out as they take their last breath
Alrighty then. Stress Management courses for everyone!!! Let's keep things civil and in check please :)
Well, it just leaves you feeling raw when the other person CLEARLY had done something wrong and to take it a step further.....they stop responding.
It clearly says to me, none of the reason you gave for late shipping was valid..........If so, why not simply say "im sorry, I dropped the ball. Your item is in mail or here is a refund". ?
All I got from this clown so far is "I was busy, ill ship it soon. Ill toss in a NESHO ball cap"..... LOL to which I said, WHY WOULD I WEAR A CAP ADVERTISING YOUR BAD BUSINESS?
There is something to give thanks for here and that is, I bought it thru ebay and not thru him placing it here. At least ebay have put a hold on the funds and told me the future steps to get my money back...
You have every right to be aggravated, C42go, this transaction could have gone a lot smoother. However, my comment was not in response to you specifically. Some degree of restraint is required when one expresses oneself in public. This particular instance was no better than a case of road rage.
Clearly understood.... I apologize for myself and on behalf of the other message which you refer too.
I don't think any harm was meant but all the same I see, agree and understand your point.....
Please let me correct a few things..
A. he missed the auction by roughly 2 hrs, the one that did win was shipped on Saturday. but by the time I received his payment after a second chance offer it was too late. I cant ship on Sunday..
B. I admit I was unable to get shipped on Monday as I also drive truck and have been on the road until late wednesday..
Now for the good stuff.. On Wednesday he sent me a message thru ebay asking about tracking, I responded and explained that I was on the road and would be able to get it out first thing on Thursday, he said it was bad business and I shouldn't be in Business.. this is 3 business days after auction close, I had it listed at 3-5.... He kept saying for lack of better words (shitty) things to me, well for those that do know me, I dont like that so I would respond back to his comments acutally in a nice manner and he just continued bashing me.. I even offered a hat for free and he said " why do I want a f***king hAT FROM A BAD BUSINESS. and just kept going.. I even said had a good day LOL.. for those that know me know how had that was..
To ebay.. He has asked for a refund.. he also said the item doesn't fit. Ebay or Paypal has not held my money because he has not corrected this.. Again ill glady refund his money but he will not get away with listing the reason as that.. Again I failed to ship the second I woke up on Monday, but would have shipped on Thursday and have been within 3-5 business days. but I guess its not good enough to follow the rules.
Ive done some research on this guy after the 20 or so messages in one day telling me Im a bad man.. He has done similar in the zx-12or14 and 300zx forums.
Mr Benton, go fix your complaint thru ebay. and next time you order something that says 3-5 Business days and its not there on the 3rd day dont freak out, dont TRY to flame someone that is actually responding to you each time you have to whine about something that is clearly within the limits of the auction. Now because of the way you act, you have no pipe and no money.. Things did not quite work out the way you wanted I guess.
My apologies to Forum Members to even have to read this crap, but this guy is unreal and if you want to read some of the demeaning things he said to me Ill send them to you. and to my friends that brought this to my attention, I thank you. Ill respect this forum now and not respond to any more of his whining..
thanks . Kirk Doucette
While sitting here, I thought abit more, I was wrong. It was the beginning of the 4th business day that he started his complaining. Mike must have been confused about the "ships in 3-5 business days" Part.
Would have been mailed Friday, receiving today. My apologies,,
Let me sum things up very SIMPLE FOR YOU.... Item was paid for on the 30th of last month, prior to paying you said YOU HAD IT READY TO BE SHIPPED....
Today is the 5th and STILL NO SO MUCH AS A TRACKING NUMBER. So, guys draw your own conclusions... Its strange you stop responding via Ebay, but say no more... Your funds I paid has been placed on hold and IM BEING REFUNDED.
So im done chatting with you. When a buyer purchase from you, is it far for them to factor in your WORK SCHEDULE? If you cant/don't ship in a timely manner,,,,,, REMOVE YOUR JUNK and if nothing else, KEEP YOUR WORD.
FINAL RESPONSE... He's still talking about REFUNDING ME MY MONEY.. Guys it takes no longer to refund money via pay pal as it take him to write his note...
I guess it goes without saying, I HAVE NO REFUND and I sure as hell don't want the junk he's spending time slapping together in an effort to keep said funds.......
All I can say is, FUTURE BUYERS BEWARE... BE VERY AWARE. Like you, I have NO PROBLEM sharing my messages exchanged thru ebay with ANYONE who wish to see them.
Im done responding, I trust and have faith in ebay and their buyers protection plan.
CUT/PASTED FROM EBAY: Please note the time/date.... and look at todays time/date..... ie; im on EST.
From: northeastsho
To: dlanders649
Subject: General northeastsho sent a message about Taurus SHO 2010-2015 Stainless Steel Resonator delete pipe #161655826453
Sent Date: Apr-03-15 03:03:34 PDT
Dear dlanders649,
No problem. I ll be home in about 6 hrs and I ll glady refund your money.
- northeastsho
You purchase an item from a "private seller" through eBay and you expect the same service you'd receive from a large company with a warehouse full of stock and a small army of employees to pack and ship orders? NE SHO obviously isn't getting rich off selling items on eBay and if he did in fact have a note stating items will ship in 3 to 5 business days, that means it would have shipped by the 6th. Today is the 4th, not the 5th btw. You can't expect to get caviar when you shop at Aldi.
I am stating my opinion based on the fact that it was clearly stated in the ad that item would ship in "3 to 5 business days." If that's not the case I fully retract my statement.
Kirk has been a long standing pillar of the SHO Community for many Generation's of it's various iterations.
If Kirk says he'll do something. He does. Plain and simple.
From planning, to coordinating, fabricating unique items, and being an all around stand up person who'd help out any SHO member regardless of the circumstance, Kirk is it.
The OP's dooms day warning was clearly communicated in his opening post, anything thereafter should've been kept in private. Especially if the OP's confident in the eBay Protection Policies laid forth.
This whole nonsense reminds me of Anthrax' anthem "Caught In A Mosh", where lead singer Joey Belladonna belts out (among other lines applicable to this silliness).....
"Think. Think before you speak. Or suffer, for your words. Learn! To give respect that others, give to you".
https://youtu.be/zlLn0UicWrM
Looking at the listing (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Taurus-SHO-2010-2015-Stainless-Steel-Resonator-delete-pipe-/161655826453), I see this:
Item location:
Spencer, Massachusetts, United States
Ships to:
United States and many other countries | See details
Delivery:
Estimated within 6-9 business days - (That means possibly 8-13 calendar days)
Includes 5 business days handling time after receipt of cleared payment. - (That means possibly 5-7 calendar days)
"I make these to order and I am always busy, so it might take a week or two to get to you"
Listen, I could care less how good a sales person he was.. The vital info you are missing I CAN GLADLY EMAIL TO YOU. That info is as follows:
1. I contacted him prior to my purchase (can post it here if you wish) and ask, DO YOU HAVE THESE MADE AND READY TO SHIP? his answer...YES.
2. I paid for the item instantly, so in my mind (call me crazy) your word that these are MADE AND already set to be shipped over rides your 5-6 days shipping listed with ebay. Now if you had said THESE HAVE TO BE MADE TO ORDER, then fine I WOULD NEVER HAVE MADE THE PURCHASE.
3. IF YOU CANT OR DONT wish to send them out in a timely fashion, KEEP YOUR WORD AND REFUND me as promised and we both move on.
Now, you've stated your case WHOM EVER YOU MAY BE and ive stated mine. Hard fact is, the guy cut communication, did not send item nor did he issue a refund... Now, if you'd LIKE TO REFUND ME ON HIS BEHALF im cool with that.
He did say "I make these to order" in the listing ... but I can see your point.
EDIT: I still think he is within his EBay listing's shipping timeframe. Even if they are ready to ship (meaning made AND/OR packaged), they still have to get to the shipper (UPS/FedEx/etc.).
I GIVE UP....... What you guys are failing to understand is the following..
I read his ad, ive been a ebay user for over 12 years... Hence the reason I CONTACTED HIM PRIOR TO PURCHASE, to find out is these had to be made or IF THEY WERE ALREADY DONE?... In short, clearly he lied to get paid.
His words (not mine) I have them already made (look at his note he posted here) and I will ship it out AS SOON AS YOU PAY. (this is not something im making up, but can PROVE)
Regardless of his 5-6 day delay, If u tell me they are READY to be shipped is it UN-REASONABLE to assume 24-48 hours is time enough to visit UPS?
I say this to you,, FOR EVERY MAN OUT OF BUSINESS THERE IS USUALLY a reason for it.......that can be linked back to him MIS-HANDLING his business.
C42, I strongly suggest you tone it down immediately.
Of your 16 posts on this forum 14 of them have been personal attacks against NESHO and his product.
Instead of using the forum as a mean to reach out to its members and help mediate your situation, you used our forum to personally attack a fellow member of our community.
I see you continued the attack on EBAY.
The terms were clearly posted on the listing. You started in on him here before the agreement had been breached.
Just because your mind says it should be a certain way doesn't mean it is.
Here is a newsflash...your mind doesn't override the contract you agreed to when you click the buy button.
You didn't even allow him to breach the terms of the contract before you started attacking him.
Now you are getting hostile with our members which I am not going to put up with.
I suggest you take a deep breath before continuing down this path, and that goes for some other folks chiming in on this thread.
Quote from: C42go on April 04, 2015, 01:50:49 PM
I GIVE UP....... What you guys are failing to understand is the following..
I read his ad, ive been a ebay user for over 12 years... Hence the reason I CONTACTED HIM PRIOR TO PURCHASE, to find out is these had to be made or IF THEY WERE ALREADY DONE?... In short, clearly he lied to get paid.
His words (not mine) I have them already made (look at his note he posted here) and I will ship it out AS SOON AS YOU PAY. (this is not something im making up, but can PROVE)
Regardless of his 5-6 day delay, If u tell me they are READY to be shipped is it UN-REASONABLE to assume 24-48 hours is time enough to visit UPS?
I say this to you,, FOR EVERY MAN OUT OF BUSINESS THERE IS USUALLY a reason for it.......that can be linked back to him MIS-HANDLING his business.
Understood... Terrible situation... appreciate the heads up. To try and fix it I'd suggest you see if eBay or PayPal offered you buyers security and file a complaint to get your $ back....I've had good luk with them in the couple of bad deals I've made there in the last 12 or so years.
Nope, not failing to understand, not by a mile. Simply trying to look at it from different angles as a neutral third party to this situation, seeing if I can make sense of it. Clearly, there has been some miscommunication somewhere between customer & vendor, and I hope a mutually agreeable outcome can be reached. EBay and what happens on EBay are not unknown to me, and usually it works out for the customer IME.
What I don't know, for example, is if he told you he is a trucker (earlier than the post in this thread, when you contacted prior to purchase), but those guys are on the road for days at a time. So that 5 business days, I am assuming, is to allow for those times when the purchase is final, and he is not able to ship right away due to not being at the item's location. Just guessing.
Wow, I am sorry you had issues ordering from NESHO. I can honestly say that i ordered and received mine in the time stated and the part was easy to install. The item is hand made and the workmanship is great. I can not speak for my other two friends that order the same item, but they have not complained to me about time of delivery or quality or fit of part. So I am guessing they are happy also.
Has it escaped everyone that Mike (bpd) attached an Anthrax video and made it relevant to the conversation? Just curious.
Quote from: FracaSHO on April 04, 2015, 02:54:27 PM
Has it escaped everyone that Mike (bpd) attached an Anthrax video and made it relevant to the conversation? Just curious.
No, it was a very nice touch...lol
Rich
Dude, if you feel you wish to BLOCK me from the sight that's and thats one of your options,,, well exercise it.
Long and the short as I stated earlier, I know what ebay said, I know the time from that's listed for shipping said item....
But take into account what seems to have escaped you is a simple yes or no would have sufficed when I asked the questions "are these already made and ready to be sent out"? His answer, YES. If you pay now they will be sent out asap....
Now to your ebay remark, if you can see/read the conversation that took place at ebay that tells me a few things, 1 he's sent you the convo, 2) you're perhaps a pal of his or 3) you forgot there is 3 sides to everything..
1. His side
2. My side
3 The truth
Which one of those you overlooked I COULD CARE LESS as I don't have to take your crap just because you may or may not have the ability to block me.
If you were a REAL man it would seem to me you would have sent a personal PM and asked the same thing you asked here in the public form.
To be this upset and attack in such a matter just isn't needed IMO.
I could see if it was a long delay of some sort, but this is just a couple days...within agreements terms regardless of what was said.
Could the communication have been better....probably on BOTH sides.
Life happens
To think you're not going to get blowback from many people that have much respect for this gentleman is quite naive.
The more you rant, the less credible your story comes off.
I say refund the money...part ways....call it over. Find part elsewhere that'll ship it instantly.
I just bought gaskets for downpipe install from Tasca. Paid my money with it being stated they were in stock...get email saying they're out and will take an extra 5-7 days. No big deal
Rich
Quote from: C42go on April 04, 2015, 03:28:17 PM
Dude, if you feel you wish to BLOCK me from the sight that's and thats one of your options,,, well exercise it.
Long and the short as I stated earlier, I know what ebay said, I know the time from that's listed for shipping said item....
But take into account what seems to have escaped you is a simple yes or no would have sufficed when I asked the questions "are these already made and ready to be sent out"? His answer, YES. If you pay now they will be sent out asap....
Now to your ebay remark, if you can see/read the conversation that took place at ebay that tells me a few things, 1 he's sent you the convo, 2) you're perhaps a pal of his or 3) you forgot there is 3 sides to everything..
1. His side
2. My side
3 The truth
Which one of those you overlooked I COULD CARE LESS as I don't have to take your crap just because you may or may not have the ability to block me.
If you were a REAL man it would seem to me you would have sent a personal PM and asked the same thing you asked here in the public form.
I read nothing but the terms and conditions of the sale, and the tripe you posted here.
I have zero affiliation with NESHO, but I wouldn't hesitate to do business with him based on the accounts of the membership here.
When you bring issues like this to a public forum, expect it to be aired out in public.
Once again "your mind" is letting you down.
If you want to act like a petulant child, feel free to do it elsewhere.
Thank you for letting me help you in that endeavor.
Have a nice day.
I quite honestly have not seen this lack of respect and courtesy in a while now and truely find it very disturbing and unprofessional to say the least,the other day someone was trying to break into my car with a screwdriver and caused some minor damage to the paint,have a 500.00 deductible and surely was not bitching about the whole ordeal,its part of life so just deal with it and just let go,had members here getting into car accidents showed far better professionalism without the b*tch ass whining,if it wasnt for the deductible would of probably gave you the money to quit the ranting and whining and to just move on.