MDesign Carbon Cold Air Intake- Genuine carbon fiber enclosed intake air filter and carbon fiber intake charge pipe.
- Custom designed intake air scoop with OEM mount points allows for a fresh source of air.
- Completely enclosed from the engine bay in order to prevent heatsoak.
- More linear and direct air flow than OEM design.
- Retains all OEM hoses and connections.Includes: Carbon fiber intake filter, carbon fiber charge pipe, intake air scoop, silicone couplers and clamps.
$349.99 + Shipping & Handling.QuoteEDIT:
For future reference the group buy is over with and all the intakes are with a bunch of happy members! To order or inquire about the intake the best method is to email me via the email below or contact me via PM.
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Are there any dyno pulls with it vs. anything else?
Looks really nice that's for sure.
Rich
Can you please post up pictures of the intake for the guys.
Thanks!
Mike
What filter are you using?
Quote from: SHOnUup on October 27, 2014, 03:42:04 PM
Are there any dyno pulls with it vs. anything else?
Looks really nice that's for sure.
Rich
No dyno pulls, I might try to find a member to try and work something out.
Quote from: navbtcret on October 27, 2014, 04:18:28 PM
What filter are you using?
They are 3" conical dry filters, similar to every aftermarket cone filter out there so it's compatible with aftermarket cleaning/oiling kits.
Give the guy credit,promised us a while back a custom intake,with law school and everything,cant wait to see it,probably in the process creating a pat.
On a side note...looks like this design opens up some room for other options to be snuck in there.
Rich
Looks good. What are the avg intake temps with the new set up?
Quote from: Spartn27 on October 27, 2014, 04:20:40 PM
Quote from: SHOnUup on October 27, 2014, 03:42:04 PM
Are there any dyno pulls with it vs. anything else?
Looks really nice that's for sure.
Rich
No dyno pulls, I might try to find a member to try and work something out.
Where are you located? I may be interested in working something out with you. Other than tuner, colder plugs, and 170* t stat I'm all stock.
This is good news. I am excited to see test results from this intake. I really think the addition of the scoop will prove beneficial
Interested depending on test results.
If it makes any power and/or keeps temps at bay, I will pick one up.
Regardless of results, its a gorgeous intake, great job!
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on October 28, 2014, 10:57:42 AM
Interested depending on test results.
If it makes any power and/or keeps temps at bay, I will pick one up.
Regardless of results, its a gorgeous intake, great job!
X 2 ^^^^
Me too!
Went for a nice 30 minute drive. Once warmed up the outside temperature here in Michigan was 52 degrees, the IAT were a consistent 48-50 degrees while in motion. I had idled the car for 10 minutes and the high was 78 which quickly dropped back down to 48-50 when driving.
This is without the intake scoop installed as I did not have a coupler on hand, I will re-test this with the coupler. Might help improve the standing idle temps.
Quote from: Spartn27 on October 29, 2014, 10:23:39 AM
Went for a nice 30 minute drive. Once warmed up the outside temperature here in Michigan was 52 degrees, the IAT were a consistent 48-50 degrees while in motion. I had idled the car for 10 minutes and the high was 78 which quickly dropped back down to 48-50 when driving.
This is without the intake scoop installed as I did not have a coupler on hand, I will re-test this with the coupler. Might help improve the standing idle temps.
IAT2?
Rich
Quote from: SHOnUup on October 29, 2014, 10:27:07 AM
IAT2?
Rich
I'll check that once I redo the tests though as of now I am seeing 2-3 degrees below ambient at cruise.
The best looking CAI piece i have ever seen,know if the the performance gains can be proven with combination of appearance,you have yourself one heck of a CAI,another note for us with existing airaid CAI,is it feasable in any way to modify the Airaid box and install yours inside the box,only a suggestion to help with heat suppresion.
Quote from: ZSHO on October 29, 2014, 10:51:46 AM
The best looking CAI piece i have ever seen,know if the the performance gains can be proven with combination of appearance,you have yourself one heck of a CAI,another note for us with existing airaid CAI,is it feasable in any way to modify the Airaid box and install yours inside the box,only a suggestion to help with heat suppresion.
Thank you for the kind words! This intake completely eliminates any air from the engine bay so the box wouldn't really do much besides take up room in the engine bay. The simplicity of the kit is that the whole intake can be swamped out by removing 3 screws and unplugging the MAP sensor, should you want to go back to stock or have more room to work in the engine bay.
Also this creates room up front for a possible methanol container that can be easily accessed.
Or a spot for a catch can....Mmmmm
Maybe room for dual CAI's, one for each turbo. ...
Rich
AS I AM now looking to dump the K&N, this would be my 3RD CAI, Look & simplicity is Fantastic,
A tad hesitant, without some Power Results...otherwise if it proves out I AM IN....
looks like a winner... ;D
do you have any better pictures of this intake, I only see a one short pipe with filter. where is the scoop, where does it hook up (underneath the car?) that brings fresh air. I possibly would be interested in buying it, pending more details and real world data.
The scoop is under the intake, I apologize for the lack of pics I'm waiting on some hardware to come in though wanted to get the interest out there as i already have a couple committed members. The post will be updated with pics as soon as possible.
As for performance, after a 30 min spirited rive on the highway I pulled up to a light and snapped the following pic:
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It seems to be a consistent 1-2 degrees below ambient, which I'm happy with. It also might improve even more..
The engine must be wondering "What the h***? This can't be happening!"
similar to the BMC filter systems?
Looks good might have to pick one up once we get power results. Does it make the turbo louder? I want some turbo spool :)
I tried twin air filters, two different designs, it wasn't effective. it does increase the sound due to the shorter, more direct design. You can definitely hear it sucking in air.
Went for a late night drive to the post office for some things, pulled up to a light after a nice drive and had solid IAT's.
(http://i58.tinypic.com/2f0de06.jpg)
Can I ask what IAT_DF represents and where the sensor is located. I found and use a PID for IAT which is the sensor just after the CAI and I have a custom PID for IAT2 which is on top of the intake manifold and my final air temp measurement. I also have an ambient and I don't know where that sensor is located. Last but not least I have a custom PID for CAC and the sensor for that is located after the intercooler and before the throttle body.
First of all to achieve any significant gains in a CAI and the induction kits air filter is enclosed in a box or like Spartn,with a cold air feed than more power can be obtained avoiding hot air,Carbon fibre boxes or protection are known for their heat shielding and durability,so far its a win in my book,could be a potential buyer.
I'm using a SCT X4 so I'm limited to my info, almost 99.9% positive that the IAT_DF is the MAP sensor after the intake. I don't have any Window's based laptops in the house (all MacBooks) so I'm unaware of any other way to data log unfortunately at the moment.
For Larry, the ambient sensor which issued for outside air temperatures is located in the front near the metal front bumper rail.
My ambient temps via torque and the cars display are never the same. Has to be 2 different ones right?
Rich
Quote from: Spartn27 on November 01, 2014, 10:17:34 AM
I'm using a SCT X4 so I'm limited to my info, almost 99.9% positive that the IAT_DF is the MAP sensor after the intake. I don't have any Window's based laptops in the house (all MacBooks) so I'm unaware of any other way to data log unfortunately at the moment.
For Larry, the ambient sensor which issued for outside air temperatures is located in the front near the metal front bumper rail.
I have noticed that my PID Ambient differs from the temp display on the factory NAV screen usually by at least a couple of degrees. So I thought it was possible that there might be 2 Ambient sensors. Your post showing IAT_DF is the first time I've bumped into that title so....just curious to learn more. You have some amazing temp results!
I have logged iat with torque and the x4. They both seem pretty close to the same temps.
I'm pretty sure it's the sensor in the air box.
Here's a pic I just took compare the ambient temp on my display.
Just updated the thread with a better picture including the production intake funnel. It will come exactly as is in the first pic with the exception that the chrome pipe will be replaced with carbon fiber.
Very nice!
Wow
I will sell the prototype intake pictured in the original post for $150 plus shipping and handling to anyone willing to do a dyno test.
Upgraded plugs, thermostat and tune are fair game though you will need to return to stock tune. I will need a base stock pull and a pull with the intake installed.
Great offer! Who's game? :drive:
I'm very interested if there are even mild gains over stock.
That is a great offer...hope someone steps up to test it out...I would, but the SHO is about to get stored for the winter months. Shucks
Rich
I would but Don't want to pay the ridiculous price for the AWD dynos here
I'm hitting the dyno this weekend for a local shop event with $40 dyno runs..
But my truck ain't stock.... ;(
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And I have a dyno already from similar dyno with current mods
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What kind of time frame for getting results are we talking about?
Quote from: Spartn27 on November 11, 2014, 11:49:02 PM
I will sell the prototype intake pictured in the original post for $150 plus shipping and handling to anyone willing to do a dyno test.
Upgraded plugs, thermostat and tune are fair game though you will need to return to stock tune. I will need a base stock pull and a pull with the intake installed.
I think you might see more impressive gains on a highly modified car...
is stock plus corn ok?
Quote from: bigmoneycloser on November 12, 2014, 08:30:44 PM
I'm hitting the dyno this weekend for a local shop event with $40 dyno runs..
But my truck ain't stock.... ;(
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I PM'd you.
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on November 12, 2014, 11:55:18 PMI think you might see more impressive gains on a highly modified car...
is stock plus corn ok?
Where in Ohio are you? I could do corn, PM me.
As for time frame for results, I'm looking for ASAP so I can get you guys the info. Hopefully one of the two members above can help us get that done. Stay tuned.
XSport and SHO use same air raid intake...
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Thanks, bigmoneycloser & FoMoCoSHO!
If it doesn't work out with the others, I'll bet I could get some dyno pulls. A local shop offers 3 baseline pulls for a hundred bucks. That's not too bad. Cobb charged me 80 bucks per baseline.
I'd have to revert back to stock ECU mapping and the 2.5bar...
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Please give us an update when the Runs Are Done, AND after
I want to get on the List for the next Go around, thanks ;D
Look what showed up today.....
Dyno tomorrow at 2pm..
Craftsmanship is beautiful!
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Can't wait for the results
What does the actual filter look like? The outside looks awesome, but I've yet to see what matters. Snap some pics of the innards. 😁
Looks great. Hoping for no power loss. That will be an improvement.
Here is a pic of both inside ends.
It's an enclosed cone filter to simplify it..
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Ok
Before and after hits are done.
Minor issue with getting my graphs due to I had to leave and computer having issues saving files..
I will have print outs and videos tomorrow.
You are ready...........
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Base pull with all my current mods including Air Raid did:
300HP
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After install of new M Design intake did:
314.5HP
And we are running on a mustang dyno!
I will post a more detailed thread tomorrow with everything..
Tuner was shocked!!!
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?!?!?!?!?!?! welp gents.... time to junk the airaid possibly!!!!!!
Sweet looking engine bay, with the Stinger battery! Nice to hear verification of Spartn's claims, not that I ever doubted it :thumb: Killing me nobody's taken home his exhaust system yet either!
Really interested to see the curves! Solid gain.
^^^^^ I see what you did there, interested to see the curves... ;)
Thanks for doing this. Very exciting. I want his exhaust.
Quote from: panther427 on November 25, 2014, 05:23:00 PM
Thanks for doing this. Very exciting. I want his exhaust.
Do it :)
Quote from: bigmoneycloser on November 25, 2014, 04:35:32 PM
Base pull with all my current mods including Air Raid did:
300HP
******************
After install of new M Design intake did:
314.5HP
And we are running on a mustang dyno!
I will post a more detailed thread tomorrow with everything..
Tuner was shocked!!!
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Thanks for doing this. It makes me even happier I bought one of the 5 made now that there are gains too. I was going more for the look, it is the first aftermarket cai the I liked the looks of. Hopefully mine shows up tomorrow.
Here is a link to my review..
http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?topic=4034.msg63108#msg63108
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My CAI arrived today, 20 minute later it was on the car. Look great and I want to say thank you to Ahmad for a great product and if you do a run for the engine cover put me down for one already. I would love one to match the intake.
I was always under impression that in order for a Cold air intake to function succesfuly, a fresh saurce of air is brought in. Maybe because most aftermarket air intakes fail is because they rely solely on the oem or factory design to get the air in. And, being that factory box has the size and can keep a larger amount of air volume in the air box for the engine when it needs it, might just be the reason it has been the most sucesful design. I really wonder how the M design compares to the stock. The fact is it is getting the air from the same spot where the oem air box gets it, and plus it holds a smaller volume of air in it. Although it is more resistant to heat, but for how long does it actually do so, as after certain amount of driving time, I'm sure it would heat soak just as factory box. Now, I also wonder if anyone tried fabricating an additional pipe to attach to a factory air box, which would scoop the cold air from under the car while moving. I think this method would be the most effective, as well as heat wrapping the factory box. This would also mean that one would not have a dusty engine bay, however, a filter cleaning might be required more often.
PS--My comments do not reflect bashing in any way, any design, I am just curious to these answers and if anyone has any opinions on this subject.
I know from a fact that real carbon fibre is less vulnerable to heat soak as to compared to the oem box or Airaid cai which is made from plastic,the main objective in this concept is to have a CAI like Spartn which to me the design he constructed will imortanly from my standpoint lower IAT temps when at idle which others will raise the temps,the advantage MD has is the sealed enclosure which still has the scoop for fresh air,or you can go with another vendor which has the extra hose for fresh air and dont think its performance proven and not sealed up pretty well for around 2.200 ,Lol.
The other thing I noticed with the design is the "str8 line" design for air flow from the scoop thru the filter.
Air is forced str8 thru. It's not pooling up like in air raid design or OEM.
This has to help...
Definitely bigger faster colder gulps of air in my opinion..
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Spartn27....What is the timeline for having more of these available?
There's another batch coming up next week and I have a couple members interested, I can include you in that group.
For future reference the group buy is over with and all the intakes are with a bunch of happy members! To order or inquire about the intake the best method is to email me via the email below or contact me via PM.
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