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Ecoboost Performance => Performance => Topic started by: SHOdded on October 26, 2015, 11:44:22 AM

Poll
Question: What would you spend your hard-earned cash on first?
Option 1: Upgraded Turbos (seals, wheels, etc) votes: 1
Option 2: Larger Turbos (non-OEM) votes: 9
Option 3: Methanol Injection Kit votes: 16
Option 4: E85/Flex Fuel Conversion Kit votes: 2
Title: Upgraded/Larger Turbos or Methanol Injection: What is your first choice?
Post by: SHOdded on October 26, 2015, 11:44:22 AM
Be candid :D
Title: Re: Upgraded/Larger Turbos or Methanol Injection: What is your first choice?
Post by: glock-coma on October 26, 2015, 01:20:40 PM
Meth, due to playing 2 roles. More power and cleans the  intake vales.
Title: Re: Upgraded/Larger Turbos or Methanol Injection: What is your first choice?
Post by: bpd1151 on October 26, 2015, 01:42:41 PM
Absolutely, 100%, w/o a doubt, the 100% Meth Injection System. Period.

To expound, each power adder you've listed in your poll, definitively plays a roll in the overall power equation.

But dollar, for dollar (next to a simple tune) there's no disputing the HUGE benefits of running Methanol. For a myriad of reasons.

Title: Re: Upgraded/Larger Turbos or Methanol Injection: What is your first choice?
Post by: ElvenSho on October 26, 2015, 01:51:07 PM
I am seriously thinking of ordering that kit from torrie but need to find someone to install it for me. (Plan for next summer)

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Title: Re: Upgraded/Larger Turbos or Methanol Injection: What is your first choice?
Post by: Sabtaj1 on October 26, 2015, 03:07:24 PM
Quote from: ElvenSho on October 26, 2015, 01:51:07 PM
I am seriously thinking of ordering that kit from torrie but need to find someone to install it for me. (Plan for next summer)

Definatly meth.  Besides. You will need the meth for upgrading the turbos for the extra fueling it provides.  And it's not too bad to install to be honest. PS... I'm in Bettendorf Iowa. ;-)   
Title: Re: Upgraded/Larger Turbos or Methanol Injection: What is your first choice?
Post by: Vortech347 on October 26, 2015, 03:15:09 PM
I would totally go meth.  Its cheap, cleans the intake valves, and has very little to do for install.   I had meth on a supercharged car and it was fantastic.
Title: Re: Upgraded/Larger Turbos or Methanol Injection: What is your first choice?
Post by: ElvenSho on October 26, 2015, 03:32:18 PM
Quote from: Sabtaj1 on October 26, 2015, 03:07:24 PM
Quote from: ElvenSho on October 26, 2015, 01:51:07 PM
I am seriously thinking of ordering that kit from torrie but need to find someone to install it for me. (Plan for next summer)

Definatly meth.  Besides. You will need the meth for upgrading the turbos for the extra fueling it provides.  And it's not too bad to install to be honest. PS... I'm in Bettendorf Iowa. ;-)   
I am in waterloo! Do you have meth installed?

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Title: Re: Upgraded/Larger Turbos or Methanol Injection: What is your first choice?
Post by: Cruxin on October 27, 2015, 08:31:36 PM
I'm partial to mods that you don't have to refill. Plus I like the challenge of not using meth, but that might just be my engineering mind ;-). 1st choice would be upgraded stock turbos and 2nd would be aftermarket turbos. Water to air I/C's as well.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Upgraded/Larger Turbos or Methanol Injection: What is your first choice?
Post by: CroR1 on October 31, 2015, 05:02:18 PM
How reliable is meth? What happens if it malfunctions while at wot? What's the risk, is the question?
Title: Re: Upgraded/Larger Turbos or Methanol Injection: What is your first choice?
Post by: glock-coma on October 31, 2015, 05:28:50 PM

Quote from: CroR1 on October 31, 2015, 05:02:18 PM
How reliable is meth? What happens if it malfunctions while at wot? What's the risk, is the question?
tuned for meth and meth fails at wot= extreme lean condition = kaboom
Not sure if the ecu could still save the engine in time.
Title: Re: Upgraded/Larger Turbos or Methanol Injection: What is your first choice?
Post by: bpd1151 on October 31, 2015, 06:02:20 PM
And in the same token, there has not been one single incident where a catastrophic failure has occurred using Methanol in an Ecoboost based power plant. Not one.

The systems currently available (no matter who the vendor may be) have proven extremely reliable to say the least.

Next to a tune, the next biggest bang (no pun intended) for one's dollar, is bar none, the addition of Methanol.





Title: Re: Upgraded/Larger Turbos or Methanol Injection: What is your first choice?
Post by: SHOdded on October 31, 2015, 08:28:15 PM
If yiu are running meth, you do need to keep an eye on the meth tank levels.  A pretty simple check to add to your routine.
Title: Re: Upgraded/Larger Turbos or Methanol Injection: What is your first choice?
Post by: Sabtaj1 on November 01, 2015, 12:03:10 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on October 31, 2015, 08:28:15 PM
If yiu are running meth, you do need to keep an eye on the meth tank levels.  A pretty simple check to add to your routine.

Or if your like me and used your washer res, you get the low washer fluid light come on inside the vehicle.  Works like a charm...
Title: Re: Upgraded/Larger Turbos or Methanol Injection: What is your first choice?
Post by: CroR1 on November 01, 2015, 09:06:56 AM
Do you run anything for your washer fluid?


Quote from: Sabtaj1 on November 01, 2015, 12:03:10 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on October 31, 2015, 08:28:15 PM
If yiu are running meth, you do need to keep an eye on the meth tank levels.  A pretty simple check to add to your routine.

Or if your like me and used your washer res, you get the low washer fluid light come on inside the vehicle.  Works like a charm...
Title: Re: Upgraded/Larger Turbos or Methanol Injection: What is your first choice?
Post by: PokerMunkee on November 01, 2015, 09:19:12 AM
How did Bob with the red Flex in FL blow up his engine?  I know it was his fault, but he was running meth at the time.
Title: Re: Upgraded/Larger Turbos or Methanol Injection: What is your first choice?
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on November 01, 2015, 09:46:11 AM
And don't forget to disable your meth system when flashing...

http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,5354.0.html (http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,5354.0.html)
Title: Re: Upgraded/Larger Turbos or Methanol Injection: What is your first choice?
Post by: ZSHO on November 01, 2015, 09:52:02 AM
I havent heard of any failures with our primary two tuners LME and Torrie,now in regards to Diablo they certainly had some less than fortunate catastrophic events,not sure if it was meth related though.  Z
Title: Re: Upgraded/Larger Turbos or Methanol Injection: What is your first choice?
Post by: bpd1151 on November 01, 2015, 10:38:53 AM
Quote from: PokerMunkee on November 01, 2015, 09:19:12 AM
How did Bob with the red Flex in FL blow up his engine?  I know it was his fault, but he was running meth at the time.

Correct, his own fault.

Had absolutely nothing to do with his Unleashed tune, nor did it have anything to do with his kit.

He mixed up his own concoction of juice, vapor locked it, and umm yea. Lesson learned.

But as I stated previously, all of these systems have proven uber safe, and the benefits, outstanding.

Run (any) system as it was intended, and/or recommended by the mfg'er, and cero problemos.

Actually Bob is doing well, I just spoke with him recently (within last 4 weeks) and he still has his Flex oddly enough, so ironic his name popped up. He recently replaced his PTU, as well as some suspension stuff due to normal wear/tear. Bought himself a new Vette, and is having himself lots of fun.

Title: Re: Upgraded/Larger Turbos or Methanol Injection: What is your first choice?
Post by: SHOdded on November 01, 2015, 11:01:07 AM
Thanks for the update on Bob, Mike, glad he is doing great!
Title: Re: Upgraded/Larger Turbos or Methanol Injection: What is your first choice?
Post by: bamsho on November 01, 2015, 12:47:31 PM
I will be putting Meth on the '13.  After long talks with Mike and seeing Jon (91hybrid) car run, I was sold.  Just not sure what kit to buy.  I like the Snow kit cause I'm pretty sure the F150 injection plate with fit out cars, so no drilling anything.  I got all winter to think this thru.
Title: Re: Upgraded/Larger Turbos or Methanol Injection: What is your first choice?
Post by: Sabtaj1 on November 01, 2015, 03:01:25 PM
Quote from: CroR1 on November 01, 2015, 09:06:56 AM
Do you run anything for your washer fluid?


Quote from: Sabtaj1 on November 01, 2015, 12:03:10 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on October 31, 2015, 08:28:15 PM
If yiu are running meth, you do need to keep an eye on the meth tank levels.  A pretty simple check to add to your routine.

Or if your like me and used your washer res, you get the low washer fluid light come on inside the vehicle.  Works like a charm...

No I don't in the summer. But will be pulling the pump for the winter and running washer fluid then. Other that that my window stays decent. Never had an issue. Also most washer fluids have 30-32% meth in them already. And I use rain X. Lol.
Title: Re: Upgraded/Larger Turbos or Methanol Injection: What is your first choice?
Post by: JDW1 on January 30, 2016, 01:55:29 PM
Wait, so in here guys are saying installing a meth kit is easy, in another they say it takes like 10 hrs.  Which is it?
Title: Re: Upgraded/Larger Turbos or Methanol Injection: What is your first choice?
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on January 30, 2016, 02:12:01 PM
Quote from: JDW1 on January 30, 2016, 01:55:29 PM
Wait, so in here guys are saying installing a meth kit is easy, in another they say it takes like 10 hrs.  Which is it?
Both.

There are plenty of tasks that are "easy" and at the same time require lots of labor time.

A prime example is when I do inventory at work. It is easy but it takes quite a bit of time to do it properly.
Title: Re: Upgraded/Larger Turbos or Methanol Injection: What is your first choice?
Post by: fastforever on April 14, 2016, 11:19:21 PM
Go with the meth! I have a system with a 300 psi pump, a # 12 nozzle and most importantly a meth controller. The controller makes tuning easier. With just catted LMS down pipes and a 3rd cat/muffler delete and much tuning from Torrie, My 2012 PP SHO runs 12.44 @ 111.29mph here in South Florida. I have stock turbos and exhaust And I have 255/45/20 DWS tires which slow me down a bit.

Install took about 6 hrs and tuning took at least that long. I used Devil's own parts to tap into the washer tank and custom mix the meth exactly 50/50 with DISTILLED water. Only use washer fluid in emergency as it has cleaners and other additives which can harm your motor. Pure water is better in emergency.

Meth system is best bang for the buck!

Good Luck!
Title: Re: Upgraded/Larger Turbos or Methanol Injection: What is your first choice?
Post by: avidmotion on June 17, 2016, 01:57:11 PM
Meth
Title: Re: Upgraded/Larger Turbos or Methanol Injection: What is your first choice?
Post by: EcoPowerParts on June 17, 2016, 02:51:36 PM
Nitrous!
Title: Re: Upgraded/Larger Turbos or Methanol Injection: What is your first choice?
Post by: bpd1151 on June 17, 2016, 03:02:58 PM
Definitely Meth.

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Title: Re: Upgraded/Larger Turbos or Methanol Injection: What is your first choice?
Post by: AJP turbo on June 17, 2016, 11:13:42 PM
For money savings- meth

For a better tuned machine, turbos

The ecu doesn't understand where the extra fuel is coming from hence why you see stft's all jacked up in meth tunes
Title: Re: Upgraded/Larger Turbos or Methanol Injection: What is your first choice?
Post by: Sabtaj1 on June 18, 2016, 02:30:13 AM
Quote from: EcoPowerParts on June 17, 2016, 02:51:36 PM
Nitrous!

I was contemplating a wet kit for awhile but I have no idea where to tap the fuel on the 13 eco flex.  Looking at the pics of yours the 13 and up must be different???
Title: Re: Upgraded/Larger Turbos or Methanol Injection: What is your first choice?
Post by: EcoPowerParts on June 18, 2016, 12:38:44 PM
Quote from: Sabtaj1 on June 18, 2016, 02:30:13 AM
Quote from: EcoPowerParts on June 17, 2016, 02:51:36 PM
Nitrous!

I was contemplating a wet kit for awhile but I have no idea where to tap the fuel on the 13 eco flex.  Looking at the pics of yours the 13 and up must be different???
There should be a metal to plastic line in the passenger side of the engine compartment. You can use adapters there to get you a -4 AN fitting.
Title: Re: Upgraded/Larger Turbos or Methanol Injection: What is your first choice?
Post by: 93Cobra on June 18, 2016, 02:41:52 PM
I actually would spend the money on an extended warranty .
Title: Re: Upgraded/Larger Turbos or Methanol Injection: What is your first choice?
Post by: CroR1 on June 18, 2016, 02:48:33 PM
Quote from: 93Cobra on June 18, 2016, 02:41:52 PM
I actually would spend the money on an extended warranty .

you make a good point. I guess, it all depends on an individuals point of view, and to  what use the car will be used. if daily, definitely warranty. And, if occasional use, the less you drive, the longer the car lasts, possibly.
Title: Re: Upgraded/Larger Turbos or Methanol Injection: What is your first choice?
Post by: shohard on July 07, 2016, 02:44:58 AM
Meth for sure! Hitting two birds with one stone is always a plus, cant wait to see what it will do.
Title: Noisemaker
Post by: ErdleyE on July 29, 2016, 12:16:08 AM
What exactly is the gain of the EPP noisemaker eliminator pipe?
Title: Re: Noisemaker
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on July 29, 2016, 12:33:32 AM
Quote from: ErdleyE on July 29, 2016, 12:16:08 AM
What exactly is the gain of the EPP noisemaker eliminator pipe?
Silence.
Title: Re: Upgraded/Larger Turbos or Methanol Injection: What is your first choice?
Post by: L1gerZero on July 29, 2016, 06:25:08 AM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on July 29, 2016, 12:33:32 AM
Quote from: ErdleyE on July 29, 2016, 12:16:08 AM
What exactly is the gain of the EPP noisemaker eliminator pipe?
Silence.

I have to say, i laughed way too hard at this answer.
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