Wife just go this email from Ford...
Advance Notice
DEMONSTRATION / DELIVERY HOLD -
Advance Notice - Safety Recall 16S31
Certain 2013-2015 Model Year Flex, MKS, MKT, and Taurus Vehicles Equipped With 3.5L Ecoboost Engines, and 2013-2015 Police Interceptor Sedan Vehicles - Fuel Pump Control Module Inspection and Repair
No other information on FMCDealer yet.
Interesting, already had a recall on the FDM, now the FPCM!
It's on the news now, affects pretty much 13-up EcoBoost 3.5L V6 engines on a variety of models:
http://www.chron.com/news/article/Ford-recalls-over-88K-vehicles-due-to-stalling-9181414.php (http://www.chron.com/news/article/Ford-recalls-over-88K-vehicles-due-to-stalling-9181414.php)
I looked at the FSM and the only control module I found seems to be somewhere behind the rear seat.
I recall a few members having this exact problem. Vehicle running fine one second and dead the next.
Wife has the full letter now. I will scan and post when she gets home from work. We should all be receiving letters in the mail mid-September and the campaign for replacement will start in November.
Recall Date: AUG 22, 2016
Recall Title: FUEL PUMP CONTROL MODULE INSPECTION AND REPAIR
NHTSA Recall Number: AWAITING#
Ford Recall Number: 16S31
Recall Description: ON AFFECTED VEHICLES, A COMPONENT WITHIN THE FUEL PUMP ELECTRIC MODULE (PEM) MAY MALFUNCTION DUE TO ELEVATED TEMPERATURES WITHIN THE MODULE. MALFUNCTION OF THE FUEL PEM MAY RESULT IN AN OPEN CIRCUIT CAUSING A LOSS OF ELECTRICAL POWER TO THE FUEL PUMP. IF THIS OCCURS, THE CUSTOMER MAY EXPERIENCE AN ENGINE NO-START OR AN ENGINE STALL. IN SOME CASES, THE ENGINE MAY STALL WITHOUT WARNING OR THE ABILITY TO RESTART.
Risk to Safety: AN ENGINE STALL WHILE DRIVING WITHOUT WARNING OR THE ABILITY TO RESTART, CAN INCREASE THE RISK OF A CRASH.
Remedy Program: OWNERS WILL BE NOTIFIED BY MAIL AND INSTRUCTED TO TAKE THEIR VEHICLE TO A FORD OR LINCOLN DEALER TO HAVE THE FUEL PUMP ELECTRIC MODULE INSPECTED AND REPLACED IF NEEDED. THERE WILL BE NO CHARGE FOR THIS SERVICE. FORD WILL FORWARD A COPY OF THE NOTIFICATION LETTERS TO DEALERS TO THE AGENCY WHEN AVAILABLE.
Status: 12 - RECALL INCOMPLETE. REMEDY NOT YET AVAILABLE.
Manufacturer Notes: TO CHECK FOR NON-SAFETY-RELATED PROGRAMS APPLICABLE TO YOUR VEHICLE, SEE HTTP://WWW.FORD.COM/ (HTTP://www.ford.com/) OR CALL YOUR FORD DEALER. https://owner.ford.com/tools/account/maintenance/recalls/results.html (https://owner.ford.com/tools/account/maintenance/recalls/results.html)
So park it and wait for the letter and subsequent dealer inspection or roll the dice and continue driving it? This issue doesn't seem to be widespread amongst this community or am I missing something? I do not think I can get myself to park my SHO and just look at it.
Quote from: SHOhobo on August 24, 2016, 03:08:02 PM
So park it and wait for the letter and subsequent dealer inspection or roll the dice and continue driving it? This issue doesn't seem to be widespread amongst this community or am I missing something? I do not think I can get myself to park my SHO and just look at it.
I would just roll the dice on this one and just enjoy the SHO and even if you leave it parked until you receive the official letter in the mail it might not even start. Z
Looks like as of now my 16 SHO is not on the recall list.. 8)
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Quote from: JeffsSport on August 24, 2016, 04:07:26 PM
Looks like as of now my 16 SHO is not on the recall list.. 8)
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Whats your build date? if its a job 1 you could be on the preliminary stages of the recall since yours is only a 16,only time will tell. Z
Quote from: ZSHO on August 24, 2016, 05:23:09 PM
Quote from: JeffsSport on August 24, 2016, 04:07:26 PM
Looks like as of now my 16 SHO is not on the recall list.. 8)
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Whats your build date? if its a job 1 you could be on the preliminary stages of the recall since yours is only a 16,only time will tell. Z
Yikes. You might be correct. I checked my car on the Ford my owner website and was good. Mine was built 11/30/15 and was number 141 of the 16's built. Oh well anyone know what the fix is?
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Well if that happens I'm definitely going to be running a little lean...
Looks like my 16 SHO is good.
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As promised...
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Mine failed a month ago and costed me $300 to have it replaced at the dealer, guess Ill contact Ford and see about a refund. Funny thing is the dealer said he had an MKS in the week prior to mine with the same failure. I wonder if they are coming out with a revised module.
I wouldn't be surprised to see the FPM on back order with NO ETA simular to the license plate lamp recall a while back ago....probably be wise to purchase the part now and get reimbursed later if it wasnt for the inspection and not knowing if you certainly qualify for the replacement,many overall parts are on special order and not available in stock. Z
Quote from: ZSHO on August 24, 2016, 10:05:48 PM
I wouldn't be surprised to see the FPM on back order with NO ETA simular to the license plate lamp recall a while back ago....probably be wise to purchase the part now and get reimbursed if it wasnt for the inspection and not knowing if you certainly qualify for the replacement. Z
Me neither. I brought up the eco shortblock shortage and I received a nasty look and a lecture about the myriad of parts that are currently unavailable from the lovely MRS.
Shop talk gets me in trouble with her constantly, lol.
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on August 24, 2016, 10:12:21 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on August 24, 2016, 10:05:48 PM
I wouldn't be surprised to see the FPM on back order with NO ETA simular to the license plate lamp recall a while back ago....probably be wise to purchase the part now and get reimbursed if it wasnt for the inspection and not knowing if you certainly qualify for the replacement. Z
Me neither. I brought up the eco shortblock shortage and I received a nasty look and a lecture about the myriad of parts that are currently unavailable from the lovely MRS.
Shop talk gets me in trouble with her constantly, lol.
Too funny! I understand completely. I'm lucky though and my wife is one step removed from Service. As in her desk is next to the Service Managers. She just leans over and bugs him for me.
My basic understanding is that the full production of many parts is going to the line to build cars right now.
So if I read what has been posted and what I have read on the owner website so far it is an inspect and replace it if needed or is this a replace the module no matter what?...if it is replace no matter what then I am purchasing the part now and go through the reimbursement hassle later....good strategy if it is replace no matter what situation correct?
It is a flat out replace period.
I would not buy the part ahead of time. For all we know you may get the same faulty part. I'd wait until dealerships receive notice on Nov 14 regarding parts availability.
Great....drive that 400 mile road trip with confidence....YIKES!
Quote from: SHOhobo on August 24, 2016, 10:39:05 PM
Great....drive that 400 mile road trip with confidence....YIKES!
If the board is any measure of failures, I'd say we're relatively safe, at least so far.
I will certainly have some updates for ya'll tomorrow pertaining to the recall and whats actually in store procedure wise...stay tuned . Z
Quote from: SHOhobo on August 24, 2016, 10:39:05 PM
Great....drive that 400 mile road trip with confidence....YIKES!
IMHO you should be fine with your 15 SHO....the 13-14 SHO are more susceptible and prone to failures such as the FDM,and any such Fuel related issues,especially the 13SHO,enjoy the trip. Z
I was unfortunately not able to obtain any new information due to it being in the early stages of the recall but will definitely have an update once its available,basically have the same info as Sholxgt but an extended version.LOL. Z (http://i.imgur.com/bHgd4Lmh.png?1)
Yup...I skipped page 2. Lazy.
Seems strange to me that they are going to notify customers Sept 12, but won't have the complete dealer bulletin until Nov 14. I suspect that dealers are going to get barraged with phone calls, but not have any answers for two whole months.
This might be a recall that is best done during the later stages once the procedure and part is better known.
Huh, well I just replaced both this year, so I should have the updated part number. The module is actually cheap. $55 for the thing and its behind the right rear seat back, behind the carpet liner. I mean super easy replacement.
Quote from: bamsho on August 25, 2016, 11:54:41 AM
Huh, well I just replaced both this year, so I should have the updated part number. The module is actually cheap. $55 for the thing and its behind the right rear seat back, behind the carpet liner. I mean super easy replacement.
That stupid thing on the hump Behind the seat back?
I was wondering what that was. I actually relocated mine the under the seat with some zip ties. It was always getting crushed by stuff when the trunk was full.
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I thought i might add this to the MIX. Z http://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2016/ford-recalls-113000-vehicles-2-recalls.shtml (http://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2016/ford-recalls-113000-vehicles-2-recalls.shtml) August 25, 2016 — Ford says more than 113,000 vehicles are recalled in TWO RECALLS involving problems ranging from engines that stall to windows that can close with too much force and might want to add the Escape to the mix. ..... due stay Tuned. Z
If this recall is indeed for that stupid module under the rear seat I'll hopefully be getting my $100 extended warranty deductible returned to me for when I had mine go out earlier this year.
Fingers crossed.... :D
Quote from: r1crusher on August 28, 2016, 09:23:55 PM
If this recall is indeed for that stupid module under the rear seat I'll hopefully be getting my $100 extended warranty deductible returned to me for when I had mine go out earlier this year.
Fingers crossed.... :D
Kevin They charged you Double the price for the part plus install hopefully they will reimburse you the same amount,HA. Z
If anyone is interested in the wiring schematics here is goes. Z (http://i.imgur.com/1f9AMznh.png?1)
I bought my '13 cpo flex 04/30/16. this module failed and my car died 3 days after buying it. no recall at the time. paid a dealer to repair the car, and got a refund for the deductible from the selling dealer. hopefully it doesn't happen again!!
Recall for 2013/2015 Ford Taurus, Ford Flex, Lincoln MKS/MKT and Ford Police Interceptor vehicles equipped with the GTDI engines. Problem with the (PEM) could lose power to the fuel pump. Ford Recall # is 16S31.
Auggie
That recall was issued last month and actually found out today the reason its still pending is in fact its either going to be a module replacement or they might need to update/reflash your PCM to the latest cal/update. Z
OH, OK, I just got a notice from NHTSA yesterday and called Ford and no parts yet. This could be a real problem if the engine stalls on the freeway at 70+ MPH !!
Just took the SHO in (to correct a leak in the rear diff they serviced not even a month ago) and they snuck this into the invoice. Asked about it when i was reading and was informed they don't have the parts yet as well. Right before i left i pulled the codes and got P008B, hopefully this will make sure it gets fixed and not just "inspected" :(
I would advise anyone affected by this recall to revert back to stock tune prior to visiting there Ford Dealer and its from my understanding this will be either a module replacement or they might need to update/re-flash your PCM to the latest cal/update or both. Z
I think for the time being it will be beneficial to always try to keep your tank FULL and to Keep the gas tank at least 1/4 full. This much gasoline, a 1/4 tank, keeps the fuel pump surrounded by gasoline, which helps keep the fuel pump cool.Running the tank less than 1/4 tank depletes this "coolant" and allows the fuel pump to run hotter. It is this heat from the pump, in addition to the ambient heat, that literally distills the gasoline in the tank. This precipitates out the solids and the sludges, which plugs the fuel pump filter. Having at least 1/4 tank of gas in the tank reduces all of these risks until a resolution to this recall is resolved. Z
[UPDATE] I just came back from Ford and was able to obtain the following latest updates on the recall,stay tuned. Z (http://i.imgur.com/D14g7Xmh.png) https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8JUL90DXgdiWHR0eVhmb3RXNTF1RzM3ZDlCcjN2bEJsMGJN/view?usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8JUL90DXgdiWHR0eVhmb3RXNTF1RzM3ZDlCcjN2bEJsMGJN/view?usp=sharing)
Great info!
Anyone know placement of module in Flex and Explorer??
13+FLEX & X-SPORT[Exclusively only here at E.B.P.F]. Z (http://i.imgur.com/AGujvjKh.jpg?1)(http://i.imgur.com/8ViMjTfh.jpg?1)
My dealer pointed this out when I had my MKS in today, but like everyone else, told me probably be good long time before parts would be available. How hard would it be to check the part in '13 MKS?
Is it the Pump or the Module that is overheating? Or is it the Module causing the pump to Overheat?
This module is in the trunk of the Taurus on the hump going from the cabin area to the trunk right behind the back seat. It's under the carpet
I'm assuming it would be in a similar area in the mks.
Easy enough to find it a check the part number.
Glock, in my car, that hump area is actually the antennna. The fuel module is located on the passenger side vertical slab right behind the back seat. (At least in my car)
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I guess out of curiosity will be taking mine apart to see if its affected or not based from the recall above and will try to post up some pics on the process. Z
Good luck, while its super easy to get to, i could barely read any info on mine.
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I Definitely agree with Slurpie that it was an easy process but could NOT read the part number on the module and here is a very easy How To )lower the rear passenger seat down. 2)carefully remove the plastic screw(rivet)that holds down the side cover with a small flat head screw driver which took me literally a few minutes to do,easy peasy. Z (http://i.imgur.com/sqbVkz7h.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/fSPcR7Qh.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/HlDBzaPh.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/hc99COmh.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/KG8EVGhh.jpg)
Awesome!
Looks easy...if you have folding rear seats :( Guessing the MKS will require climbing into the trunk.
Quote from: sholxgt on September 15, 2016, 03:34:38 PM
Looks easy...if you have folding rear seats :( Guessing the MKS will require climbing into the trunk.
It sounds like your still feeling the repercussions of the DP install but no worries its a piece of cake compared to that. LOL .Z ;)
LOL
Great one Z!!! Totally true!
Well, I'm at a loss. Mine was a pain in the rear because you have to lay in the trunk and remove/peel back the side panel that runs the length of the trunk to access. Once I accessed the module, I had to unbolt it in order to see it at all since it's between the seat back and frame of the trunk.
Once unbolted and out in plain sight, it does not have any numbers on it. I even took pictures of each side and then blew them up on my computer. Nothing. At this point, I'm clueless.
no part number whatsoever definitely means to me "the supplier part number suffix, is not 5f"
Oh and as of today, bare with me here, this changed from just a bulletin to they will be going through with the repairs. They took the backseat out right there on the spot when i asked them about it and they double checked.
How exactly did they check? Don't they just have VIN codes to go by?
Honestly I wouldn't be able to tell you too much. They had a computer in front of my car (i was under it inspecting their work) and he when he went to bring up my original invoice it said bulletin, but he said he had seen something on some boards yesterday so he checked again and it changed. I don't have that paperwork for the recall check, they are mailing me the right stuff since mine was wrong. When i receive it i can post a picture here for their exact words.
Quote from: L1gerZero on September 15, 2016, 10:45:23 PM
Honestly I wouldn't be able to tell you too much. They had a computer in front of my car (i was under it inspecting their work) and he when he went to bring up my original invoice it said bulletin, but he said he had seen something on some boards yesterday so he checked again and it changed. I don't have that paperwork for the recall check, they are mailing me the right stuff since mine was wrong. When i receive it i can post a picture here for their exact words.
I think he referenced the bulletin found on this Board posted by me yesterday, HA . Z
Sounds like a smart tech to learn from you
I am late to the party, but the parts are not available for most. I am on on hold until further notice
This am after driving for roughly 15 min to get some coffee came home to grab my 10mm socket,Ratchet to inspect the module a bit further noticed it was a bit warm to the touch on a 60 degree morning with very limited driving on a full tank of gas......just makes you wonder the effect's if the conditions were greater.....wonder if installing some heat resistant tape on the metal might help to alleviate these conditions a tit. Z :hmmm:
Quote from: ZSHO on September 18, 2016, 08:12:56 AM
This am after driving for roughly 15 min to get some coffee came home to grab my 10mm socket,Ratchet to inspect the module a bit further noticed it was a bit warm to the touch on a 60 degree morning with very limited driving on a full tank of gas......just makes you wonder the effect's if the conditions were greater.....wonder if installing some heat resistant tape on the metal might help to alleviate these conditions a tit. Z :hmmm:
That would not be a bad idea. Too much heat or cold is an issue with just about anything electrical
Quote from: CroR1 on September 18, 2016, 09:13:08 AM
Quote from: ZSHO on September 18, 2016, 08:12:56 AM
This am after driving for roughly 15 min to get some coffee came home to grab my 10mm socket,Ratchet to inspect the module a bit further noticed it was a bit warm to the touch on a 60 degree morning with very limited driving on a full tank of gas......just makes you wonder the effect's if the conditions were greater.....wonder if installing some heat resistant tape on the metal might help to alleviate these conditions a tit. Z :hmmm:
That would not be a bad idea. Too much heat or cold is an issue with just about anything electrical
I would install an auto circulation fan mounted inside the trunk to keep everything cool. 8)
page 12. Z
Trunk Circulation Fan• Fan is mounted on bottom side of rear deck behind 2nd row seat in trunk
• Trunk circulation fan pulls air from interior of vehicle into trunk
• Trunk is vented at bottom on driver and passenger sides
• Fan is wired complete and fully functional as vehicle is delivered – operates with "key on"
position – feed from underhood Battery Junction Box (BJB) "Run Start Feed #1" circuit/ https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas/non-html/2013/P-010.pdf (https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas/non-html/2013/P-010.pdf)
Wouldn't the metal brace it's attached to act as a heat sink and actually help pull heat away from the module?
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How about just leaving the panel that covers the module off for now ??
Auggie
If Z has to get his FPCM replaced, maybe he can convince the SA to dissect the old part :)
Quote from: SHOdded on September 18, 2016, 05:39:10 PM
If Z has to get his FPCM replaced, maybe he can convince the SA to dissect the old part :)
True indeed :) But in the meantime it looks like i'll be driving with my rear seats down along with a full tank of gas until then. Z
Take the opportunity to improve the bass response of your audio system in the meantime :D
I replaced mine without a hitch when I was troubleshooting a non existent fuel problem..5 minute job... Including pulling the old one out of the box...
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Wouldnt happen to have kept the old part, would ya?
I actually just received my recall notice in the mail and here it is. Z (http://i.imgur.com/mJKUzOKh.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/nztXyieh.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/WFP45Cyh.jpg)
Nice of 'em to throw the battery in there, LOL!
I noticed on page 2 that you will be eligible for a reimbursement if you had this specific part changed prior to this recall but you will still need to get it inspected. Z (http://i.imgur.com/Zc73cDqh.jpg?1)
Yup, just got mine today.
Auggie
Mine looks the same other than saying Lincoln at the top.
I'm trying to look into finding the part number on the so called module itself because as mentioned a while back it very vague and hazy and will keep ya'll updated on any findings. BTW think the curiosity is getting the best of me,LOL. Z (http://i.imgur.com/TDBFNGih.jpg?1)
I totally understand! I just didn't see any sign of there ever being a number printed on mine like shown in the picture.
The wire that comes out of that module goes to a relay looking thing on the inside fender. That thing does have printed part numbers.
I got my notice yesterday also. Now I just need to find the receipt where I paid for my FPM to get fixed a few months ago so I can get refunded.
Quote from: r1crusher on September 20, 2016, 10:19:19 AM
I got my notice yesterday also. Now I just need to find the receipt where I paid for my FPM to get fixed a few months ago so I can get refunded.
Is there any visible part on the module? Z
Got my notice too.
Quote from: ZSHO on September 20, 2016, 11:05:14 AM
Is there any visible part on the module? Z
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As in on the actual module or on the receipt, Z? I'll do my best to dig up the work order and if need be I'll try to take out the seat to look for a p/n.
I finally was able to find the part number which ends in 0C [Number 0 followed by a letter C] right above highlighted in pink which tells me it needs replacing. :).....if it ends in 5F as mentioned earlier it does NOT need replacing. Z BTW used a flashlight along with the phones flash to try to capture the part number at an angle. Z (http://i.imgur.com/QHIuUXJh.jpg?2)
Quote from: r1crusher on September 20, 2016, 12:17:18 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on September 20, 2016, 11:05:14 AM
Is there any visible part on the module? Z
As in on the actual module or on the receipt, Z? I'll do my best to dig up the work order and if need be I'll try to take out the seat to look for a p/n.
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Kevin that's pure commitment my friend thanks. Z
Wow! Good eyes Z!
If I zoom way in on the pic I took of mine, I can tell there's writing there. Can't make it out, but there's writing there. I'll let the dealer do the actual reading. LOL
Nah, I am just to lazy. I'm pretty confident mine needs to be replaced, I'm not even gonna try to look. I just hope they take care of it before it becomes and issue for me.
Funnily enough, my '14 died again on Monday night......for the third time.........my FPM was replaced today.
Hopefully this is the last time my SHO sees the dealer for some time!
When was your '14 built?
I just received the letter a few days ago but no parts are available.
I'll take a look when I'm home from work tmrw.
It left me stranded twice now with the same symptoms. The first time the dealer diagnosed it as a bad battery so it was replaced.....but it appears that there was likely more to it than that.
My 14's battery did die unexpectedly last year. Was your dead battery related to the fuel pump module/relay?
That, I am not sure of.
Mine crapped out Tuesday night and the local dealer near work fixed it for me yesterday afternoon...never got any notification, but I moved last month
I was able to get the latest update on the recall just now hot off the press but it seems that many are uninterested in the topic and don't want to bore you with another update. Z :(
Quote from: ZSHO on September 22, 2016, 05:02:24 PM
I was able to get the latest update on the recall just now hot off the press but it seems that many are uninterested in the topic,oh well no worries. Z :(
Count me as interested! I'm not going to do anything about it until the dealer tells me to bring it in, but I'm definitely interested. It seems that there are quite a bit of failures of this little part.
Quote from: ZSHO on September 22, 2016, 05:02:24 PM
I was able to get the latest update on the recall just now hot off the press but it seems that many are uninterested in the topic and don't want to bore you with another update. Z :(
It's not boredom buddy, its recall fatigue.
So it looks like sufficient quantities of parts[module]will be available to repair vehicles in the 4th quarter of 2016 roughly around for the holidays from my understanding and perspective and will certainly keep ya'll updated on any and all updates pertaining to this recall. Z :hmmm: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8JUL90DXgdiaWxocmdhUnEteTdQbmdTbDJzU3BKLXpFZzQw/view?usp=sharing [Part numbers on page 6 ]
If anyone is having issues gaining access to the PDF please LMK. BTW Bryan sharing link should be set to on now,LMK. Z
Thanks bud
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Thanks Z! Interesting they add .1 hours for the poor Lincoln mechanics that get to do the replacement on MKS's while laying on their back inside the trunk instead of accessing easily with the drop down rear seats.
I am definitely interested in and greatly appreciate any updates. Yeah, The back seat not folding down is one of the very few things I really don't like about my MKS. That and the touch FCIM. At one point I actually considered a swap for the Taurus back seat, but just wasn't workable.
So last night mine failed driving home, car started to lose power rapidly till it died. Good thing I wasn't attempting to merge into traffic, it could have ended badly. But the Ford dealer is not telling me they are not sure if they can get me a replacement unit any time soon since they are on back order.
Quote from: ShelbySuperSnake on September 26, 2016, 07:34:56 PM
So last night mine failed driving home, car started to lose power rapidly till it died. Good thing I wasn't attempting to merge into traffic, it could have ended badly. But the Ford dealer is not telling me they are not sure if they can get me a replacement unit any time soon since they are on back order.
Glad nobody was hurt during the incident and its sad to say but prior to this recall Standard which is equivalent to MC or even better and is currently unavailable and will Definitely keep ya'll updated on all counts referenced to this recall. Z
Finally got my car back today, looks like the Fuel Pump Module failed taking the LPFP and the HPFP with it. I'm not sure how that happened but luckily the dealer replaced it all for free due to the recalled part being the main cause of the failure.
Quote from: ShelbySuperSnake on September 29, 2016, 09:38:16 PM
Finally got my car back today, looks like the Fuel Pump Module failed taking the LPFP and the HPFP with it. I'm not sure how that happened but luckily the dealer replaced it all for free due to the recalled part being the main cause of the failure.
ShelbySS what vehicle was this for? due setup your signature,thanks Z
I just wanted to give ya'll a quick update on the recall and it seems that some Ford dealers are stocking in the fuel modules. :) and also you can check for dealer availability status by logging in your vin number at Fordparts.com. Z Part Name: Engine Fuel Control Module
Brand: Ford Parts
Part Number: 9D370
Price: $61.93
Quantity:
1
+Add To Cart
Part Description: 3.5L Dual Over Head Cam T/C V6 Gas
Quantity Per Vehicle: 1
Package Quantity: 1 (http://i.imgur.com/9gKZhy8h.jpg)
Mrs FoMoCoSHO was able to order mine late last week.
Need to set up your own backchannel distribution center for the rest of us :)
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on October 04, 2016, 03:56:50 PM
Mrs FoMoCoSHO was able to order mine late last week.
Did you receive it ?
Quote from: cljnco on October 05, 2016, 01:33:07 AM
Although I couldn't figure out how to see if my local dealership had the parts, I found it interesting, the part for the Taurus is $56 while the same part for the MKS is $25.
http://www.fordparts.com/Commerce/PartDetail.aspx?n=1oP8J8aZFikiSic4UPqBRA%3d%3d&id=392788827&m=2&search=true&year=2013&make=Lincoln&model=MKS (http://www.fordparts.com/Commerce/PartDetail.aspx?n=1oP8J8aZFikiSic4UPqBRA%3d%3d&id=392788827&m=2&search=true&year=2013&make=Lincoln&model=MKS)
The new part number is
9D370 or
AA8Z-9D370-B OR
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So has anyone had this recall services as of yet?
I just got mine done but it was more of a favor on the dealerships part (I won't say which one because I don't believe they were technically supposed to do it as I wasn't experiencing any issues yet). I was in for BG transmission service and struck up a conversation about the recall and one of the service writer's mentioned they were just technically supposed to do it if you were having issues. They first have to inspect the car to see if you are eligible and if you are they will replace the defective part. They did me a solid (probably because I was spending money on what I'm guessing is a profitable item for them) and replaced it anyway. I monitor fuel pressures all the time and this did seem to raise my fuel pressure a bit when WOT but to be honest there are a LOT of variables in there so I have no credible evidence to back that up. The car does run great now though - despite the winter gas...
Wonder what the part number is. I have one I just bought this past summer.
I have mine scheduled for this Friday. I have experienced limp mode at WOT with some of my tunes, due to a drop in FRP. I don't know if this will help with that, but it probably can't hurt.
I had to talk the dealer into scheduling the appointment. He said the recall indicated that sufficient quantities of the new part weren't yet available. Then I pointed out that they had 11 in stock, so he went ahead and scheduled it.
Quote from: bamsho on October 25, 2016, 02:46:26 PM
Wonder what the part number is. I have one I just bought this past summer.
Let me see if I can find it on the sheet they gave me...
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Taking my car on a 2200 mile road trip in two weeks. This part better not fail in the middle of fricken Death Valley.
Quote from: Vortech347 on October 25, 2016, 03:16:14 PM
Taking my car on a 2200 mile road trip in two weeks. This part better not fail in the middle of fricken Death Valley.
The vultures will keep you company
Looks like part number AA8Z9D370B
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Quote from: ecoboostsho on October 25, 2016, 05:20:10 PM
Looks like part number AA8Z9D370B
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Thanks..thats what i was told on my above post. Z
Looks like it has hit the mainstream
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORDLINCOLNMERCURY-AA8Z9D370B-GENUINE-OEM-FUEL-PUMP-RELAY-/291331306730 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORDLINCOLNMERCURY-AA8Z9D370B-GENUINE-OEM-FUEL-PUMP-RELAY-/291331306730)
The D part is also available, at nearly half the cost
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fuel-OEM-Fuel-Pump-Driver-Module-AA8Z-9D370-D-Factory-Various-Models-2013-2016-/122045777732 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fuel-OEM-Fuel-Pump-Driver-Module-AA8Z-9D370-D-Factory-Various-Models-2013-2016-/122045777732)
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Oddly enough when you look at the applications, for the 2013+ SHO/PI, the B part is listed. The 2013+ MKS uses the D part.
Thanks, yeah I bought the updated part. Will put the old one back in when I take the SHO for transmission service, that will give me a spare.
Here is the update on the procedure for the recall and as a courtesy the dealer installed a high performance module.LOL.with part number AA8Z-9D370-D .Work order below :). Z (http://i.imgur.com/330zUXBh.jpg?2) https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8JUL90DXgdib0hheEtpQVJtY3JLTEhkRlZVeHlaSlFkYnU0/view?usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8JUL90DXgdib0hheEtpQVJtY3JLTEhkRlZVeHlaSlFkYnU0/view?usp=sharing)
It looks like they also installed a new Harness/connector to the module. Z (http://i.imgur.com/Py8EoQOh.jpg?1)
does the 13 mks ecoboost get this recall. I went to get tires balanced at a horrible lincoln dealer and they said their were none . I didnt believe them.
Quote from: Ramairetransam on November 09, 2016, 10:40:12 AM
does the 13 mks ecoboost get this recall. I went to get tires balanced at a horrible lincoln dealer and they said their were none . I didnt believe them.
Yup,did you receive a recall letter in the mail.? Z. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8JUL90DXgdiaWxocmdhUnEteTdQbmdTbDJzU3BKLXpFZzQw/view
Quote from: Ramairetransam on November 09, 2016, 10:40:12 AM
does the 13 mks ecoboost get this recall. I went to get tires balanced at a horrible lincoln dealer and they said their were none . I didnt believe them.
I would report that dealer to Ford big time. This recall is a major safety item and if they told you no recall on your mks and there is that's a major flaw in that dealership..
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The Ford owner website should show you any open recalls.
I just picked up my SHO and the dealer said the parts were on back order and I had to sign a waiver that the recall was still open and Ford with notify me when parts are available. Is this true?
Quote from: JOE_SHO on November 14, 2016, 10:03:20 AM
I just picked up my SHO and the dealer said the parts were on back order and I had to sign a waiver that the recall was still open and Ford with notify me when parts are available. Is this true?
Yes that is technically true. They have parts but are supposed to be saving them for individuals that actually have the module fail. Some of us have been able to convince our dealers to replace them proactively but it's at their discretion I believe.
If you look at page 3 pertaining to [Stock vehicles] they should of corrected the issue prior to delivery knowing the fact a major safety recall is in effect.IDK Z https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8JUL90DXgdiaWxocmdhUnEteTdQbmdTbDJzU3BKLXpFZzQw/view
I just received the letter today saying parts are available. I called my local dealership on Tuesday (29 NOV) but they said parts weren't available and had to be ordered.
I took a picture of the relay for my 2014 SHO, and it looks nothing like the one in the recall PDF that ZSHO posted. What I assume is the supplier code ends in -0C, and there aren't any Ford engineering part numbers.
I have an open recall for the license plate lamps, and want to get both done at once. My backup camera also stops working intermittently, but the dealer is probably going to say "problem not reproducible".
Quote from: metroplex on December 03, 2016, 07:46:14 PM
I just received the letter today saying parts are available. I called my local dealership on Tuesday (29 NOV) but they said parts weren't available and had to be ordered.
I took a picture of the relay for my 2014 SHO, and it looks nothing like the one in the recall PDF that ZSHO posted. What I assume is the supplier code ends in -0C, and there aren't any Ford engineering part numbers.
I have an open recall for the license plate lamps, and want to get both done at once. My backup camera also stops working intermittently, but the dealer is probably going to say "problem not reproducible".
I have many pdf's here which one R U referring to? Due post us a pic of that one of kind module of your's. BTW the backup camera probably needs to be calibrated through IDS. Z https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8JUL90DXgdib0hheEtpQVJtY3JLTEhkRlZVeHlaSlFkYnU0/view https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8JUL90DXgdiWHR0eVhmb3RXNTF1RzM3ZDlCcjN2bEJsMGJN/view
The second PDF is the one I was talking about. Mine does not have any engineering part numbers. The first PDF is interesting. It means the -D relay for about $25 is the updated part.
I thought calibration of the camera is just for the lines? There is a way to calibrate it with FORSCAN on my 2014
Quote from: metroplex on December 04, 2016, 07:56:48 AM
The second PDF is the one I was talking about. Mine does not have any engineering part numbers. The first PDF is interesting. It means the -D relay for about $25 is the updated part.
I thought calibration of the camera is just for the lines? There is a way to calibrate it with FORSCAN on my 2014
C my post here. Z http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,6600.75.html (http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,6600.75.html)
Which one? I thought I saw one where you posted the receipt with the -D part number. The catalog shows -B to be the original replacement.
Quote from: metroplex on December 04, 2016, 08:09:03 AM
Which one? I thought I saw one where you posted the receipt with the -D part number. The catalog shows -B to be the original replacement.
The stock module part number is not visible to the naked eye....
.I finally was able to find the part number which ends in 0C [Number 0 followed by a letter C] right above highlighted in pink which tells me it needs replacing. :).....if it ends in 5F as mentioned earlier it does NOT need replacing. Z BTW used a flashlight along with the phones flash to try to capture the part number at an angle. (http://i.imgur.com/m6eWLr2h.jpg)
No engineering part number on mine. Will need to be replaced
Quote from: metroplex on December 04, 2016, 08:09:03 AM
Which one? I thought I saw one where you posted the receipt with the -D part number. The catalog shows -B to be the original replacement.
It can be kind of confusing. The
D part number replaced the
A which is for the Taurus. However, the
B part can be used. According to Ford they are functionally the same.,sorry just hate typing from my phone, LOL .Z
Another part number is popping up on some of the Flex module replacements. aa8a-9d412-ca
Quote from: 66 Galaxie on December 06, 2016, 04:26:52 PM
Another part number is popping up on some of the Flex module replacements. aa8a-9d412-ca
I believe that would be the AA8Z-9D370-B module, so the end of the supplier code has to be checked.
Quote from: 66 Galaxie on December 06, 2016, 04:26:52 PM
Another part number is popping up on some of the Flex module replacements. aa8a-9d412-ca
Replacement for the MKS also? I see the AA part number on EBay
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Donor Vehicle InformationThis item taken off of:
2012 Lincoln MKS
4 Door Sedan AWD
Engine: 3.5L V6 DOHC 24V
Gas Injected Turbocharged
Twin-Turbo W/ECOBOOST
57k miles
Transmission: 6-Speed Automatic
Exterior Color: Black, Code: UH
Interior Color: Black, Code: FW
Manufactured in USA By Ford Motor Co.
Production Date: 12/2011
VIN: 1LNHL9FT4CG805393
Quote from: 66 Galaxie on December 06, 2016, 04:26:52 PM
Another part number is popping up on some of the Flex module replacements. aa8a-9d412-ca
Its from my understanding that the correct part number for the
FLEX/MKT would be
AA8Z-9D370B as
per recall. Z
Quote from: ZSHO on December 06, 2016, 05:28:32 PM
Quote from: 66 Galaxie on December 06, 2016, 04:26:52 PM
Another part number is popping up on some of the Flex module replacements. aa8a-9d412-ca
Its from my understanding that the correct part number for the FLEX/MKT would be AA8Z-9D370B as per recall. Z
The number you see laser'd onto the part is the engineering part number, and your relay is a -EA engineering number for the -D part number.
Based on the recall flowchart you posted, the AA8Z-9D370-B is OK if the supplier code matches, otherwise it has to be replaced. AA8Z-9D370-D would be good to go and from your receipt, it looks to be the part used by your dealer for your fix.
My dealer says they will see me 3 weeks from now to perform the recalls.
Quote from: SHOdded on December 06, 2016, 05:26:44 PM
Quote from: 66 Galaxie on December 06, 2016, 04:26:52 PM
Another part number is popping up on some of the Flex module replacements. aa8a-9d412-ca
Replacement for the MKS also? I see the AA part number on EBay
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/CxUAAOSwB09YF9JC/s-l1600.jpg)
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Donor Vehicle Information
This item taken off of:
2012 Lincoln MKS
4 Door Sedan AWD
Engine: 3.5L V6 DOHC 24V
Gas Injected Turbocharged
Twin-Turbo W/ECOBOOST
57k miles
Transmission: 6-Speed Automatic
Exterior Color: Black, Code: UH
Interior Color: Black, Code: FW
Manufactured in USA By Ford Motor Co.
Production Date: 12/2011
VIN: 1LNHL9FT4CG805393
I found it coming up for E450 and small school bus applications. Hey as long as it's a good part that works...
Quote from: metroplex on December 06, 2016, 05:36:55 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on December 06, 2016, 05:28:32 PM
Quote from: 66 Galaxie on December 06, 2016, 04:26:52 PM
Another part number is popping up on some of the Flex module replacements. aa8a-9d412-ca
Its from my understanding that the correct part number for the FLEX/MKT would be AA8Z-9D370B as per recall. Z
The number you see laser'd onto the part is the engineering part number, and your relay is a -EA engineering number for the -D part number.
Based on the recall flowchart you posted, the AA8Z-9D370-B is OK if the supplier code matches, otherwise it has to be replaced. AA8Z-9D370-D would be good to go and from your receipt, it looks to be the part used by your dealer for your fix.
My dealer says they will see me 3 weeks from now to perform the recalls.
I guess a lot can happen in 3 weeks,especially with the Michigan winter ....better be safe than sorry and order the part and hopefully get reimbursed later especially it being relatively cheap to purchase .Z
I ordered the AA8Z-9D370-D from Tasca, hopefully it works since that is what you're using. I'm also hoping it doesn't reduce the power output and cause my car to run slower in the 1/4 mile
Quote from: metroplex on December 06, 2016, 06:15:55 PM
I ordered the AA8Z-9D370-D from Tasca, hopefully it works since that is what you're using. I'm also hoping it doesn't reduce the power output and cause my car to run slower in the 1/4 mile
Why would you say that? Z
I'm not sure what they changed in the module, that's all. Someone (I think the OP?) said their module failed and caused the LPFP and HPFP to die, which suggests this module is fairly important.
Anyone know if AA8Z-9D370-D was superseded? It looks like GA8Z-9D370-A is the latest part number.
Mine was replaced today, part number#GA8Z9D370A 2013 PP SHO -RECALL 16S31
Also replace PTU part number# DG11Z7251C
Your PTU was part of the recall or did you just have it replaced? What was wrong with it?
AA8Z9D370B--AA8Z-9D370-D --GA8Z-9D370-A.....
R all the same part's for the SHO IMO. .
They will all have( 9D370 )OR 9D imprinted on the module itself. Z
Don't think you're going to suffer in a quarter mile,lol. Z
I think most importantly is not getting stuck especially with the weather upon us and hopefully its a permanent fix. Z
9D370 just refers to the type of part. The GA8Z probably means it is a 2016 part. But this is a lot of part revisions for something that seems fairly simple. I read that the F150s have their module bolted to the rear axle, which gets corroded over time. But that was the 2012 to 2014 f150 I believe.
No not part of recall just had it replaced under warranty same time, it had a really bad whine louder then my stereo....
I had mine done the other day, I thought on the invoice the last letter was A, on the part number. I would have to double check... Bit disappointed in the dealer's service regarding factory warranty, so I will not be purchasing the extended warranty.
Quote from: CroR1 on December 11, 2016, 02:52:27 PM
I had mine done the other day, I thought on the invoice the last letter was A, on the part number. I would have to double check... Bit disappointed in the dealer's service regarding factory warranty, so I will not be purchasing the extended warranty.
That's pretty much the SOP for the majority of Ford dealerships. We've owned Fords for over 30 years and the experience has been the same, regardless of which state or where the dealer ranks in terms of volume sales. My friends rave about Chevy/GM customer service, how they will wash your car before they return it to you. With Ford, the car comes back from the shop dirtier than before. Or how I have to wait 3+ weeks for a recall appointment, when the actual task takes less than 5 minutes.
lol, my neighbor takes his 2001 cts to a GM dealership he didnt even buy a single car from, for an oil change, and he just loves his GM dealership. They give him a brand new cts for a loaner while he is having an oil change. I take my SHO to my dealership, 10months/3yrs after I bought it(48K$), and they take the car for couple of days, and state we don't have a loaner for you. this dealership owns the entire city of dealerships, lots full of cars, new and used....But that's not my complaint, just adding to your comment.
I just received the G8AZ-9D370-A module today. It is physically larger than the OEM equipped module. The bolt holes and harness connection look the same, but the actual electronics portion is larger.
Pics would be great if you have any.
If you look at any of the AA8Z-9D370-x modules, just imagine it about 1/4" larger in each L/W/H dimension and that would be approximately the size of the GA8Z-9D370-A module. I was worried it wouldn't fit behind the carpeted liner, but everything bolted back in place and the car runs fine.
I think you may be correct to point that out because i noticed that the connector/harness is not flush against the new module leading me to believe its a fraction hair larger versus the old module which seems to be more flush against the module,pic's below. Z New module (http://i.imgur.com/Py8EoQOh.jpg?1)
Old module (http://i.imgur.com/1WOILj2h.jpg?1)
Your new module still looks like it has the dimensions of the old module. The GA8Z module is noticeably larger, but the harness fits just like the old module.
Took the 13' in for the fuel pump recall and they did replace it. Though while it was in there I told them about a noise from the front end which sounded like a wheel bearing. They ended up ordering both front axles and will replace when the parts arrive. Luckily still under warranty.
Woo Hoo!!!
Quote from: ZSHO on December 16, 2016, 05:55:51 PM
I think you may be correct to point that out because i noticed that the connector/harness is not flush against the new module leading me to believe its a fraction hair larger versus the old module which seems to be more flush against the module,pic's below. Z New module (http://i.imgur.com/Py8EoQOh.jpg?1)
Old module (http://i.imgur.com/1WOILj2h.jpg?1)
Looking at your new module, I thought the correct module had to have a 5 or 5F suffix on the mfg number???
Is that not true on the replacements?
I am so glad I got my recall done, and a TSB computer upgrade tune. This made a BIG difference like a new different car. Much smoother, at idle can not tell the motor is running, so much quieter and smoother. Under acceleration way smoother, not a hint of low throttle stutter like before. Seems much more powerful especially at the top of the gears and I get 3 mph more before each max shift. Seat of pants I picked up hp, smoother then any car I ever had, purrs almost no noise or vibration in car. Very happy. Big improvement!
Is this part still on backorder? When I bought mine, they said I would get an update as to when I need to bring in my car for this recall.
My Flex is getting this done today. I believe the dealers are now getting a good supply of modules so I would give your dealer a call.
X2 most dealers should have them in stock AFAIK and would simply call any Ford dealer and request an appt and mention safety recall 16S31 FDM performed asap. Z
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8JUL90DXgdib0hheEtpQVJtY3JLTEhkRlZVeHlaSlFkYnU0/view
I got paranoid when I got the notice and the dealer wasn't making appointments yet so I bought one from an online dealer for around $50 just to have on hand (just in case). I changed it myself, took less than 3 minutes. When I finally got the recall appointment notice, I called the Ford customer number on it and they said if I go have it verified at the dealer, they would reimburse me. We'll see how that goes.
I called my dealer and they ordered one. Should be available next week to take my car in for it.
The service adviser also has a SHO and told me the pump got rid of his morning surge. I have the exact same problem. I'm excited to have it fixed!!
Quote from: Vortech347 on January 11, 2017, 06:39:22 PM
I called my dealer and they ordered one. Should be available next week to take my car in for it.
The service adviser also has a SHO and told me the pump got rid of his morning surge. I have the exact same problem. I'm excited to have it fixed!!
That's interesting,but would also mention
SSM 44315 2013 Model Year Explorer, Taurus, MKS, Flex, MKT, Fusion, MKZ, and Police Interceptor Utility and Sedan Vehicles may exhibit a fuel odor or hesitation.
Some 2013 Model Year Explorer, Taurus, MKS, Flex, MKT, Fusion, MKZ, and Police Interceptor Utility and Sedan Vehicles may exhibit a fuel odor, slow fill, or
hesitation/stumble while driving and may or may not have one or more of the following codes present P0454, P0455, p0456, p0457, p0451, p0459 after Field Service Action 13S04 has been completed.
This may be due to the fuel vapor line not being properly connected (fully seated) to the underside of the Fuel Delivery Module (FDM) which may lead to the carbon canister becoming saturated with liquid fuel.If fuel is found in the carbon canister and FSA13s04 has been completed on the vehicle, please inspect the vapor line connection to the FDM in addition to the normal diagnostics called out in the appropriate workshop manual. Z
I had the recall done in Dec/ 16, and the computer upgraded to new tune for hesitation. They changed my valadation code and therefore needed my tuner to redo my 3 tunes. 87 3bar, 91 3bar, 93 3bar.
My tuner Said it would be 150 bucks to redo my tunes, so be aware of that. I ended up only getting the 93 3 bar replaced, i am on a budget/disabled.
However with the recalled module replaced, Ford new base tune and my new 93 3bar the car is much quicker, more thrust, more responsive and more smooth, it is even significantly quieter. I then changed oil to Pennz oil Platinum and all the clicks in motor are now gone and smoother yet. At idle you cannot tell it is running and is so responsive and quick now. I am really happy but wish I had all my tunes.
Quote from: avidmotion on January 17, 2017, 01:05:14 AM
I had the recall done in Dec/ 16, and the computer upgraded to new tune for hesitation. They changed my valadation code and therefor needed my tuner to redo my 3 tunes. 87 3 bar, 91 3bar, 93 3bar)
Said it would be 150 bucks to redo my tunes, so be aware of that. I ended up only getting the 93 3 bar replaced, on a budget/disabled.
However with the realodule replaced. Ford new base tune and my new 93 3bar the car is much quicker, more thrust, more responsive and more smooth, it is even significantly quieter. I then changed oil to Pennz oil Platinum and all the clicks in motor are now gone and smoother yet. At idle you cannot tell it is running and is so responsive and quick now. I am really happy but wish I had all my tunes.
Why did you have to pay 150 to redo the tunes? Ford said that?
Ford charged 80 for the TSP hesitation retune of pcm. Said they would use towards the 100 deductible for warranty work, for replacing the PTU for a bad whining issue. My tuner said he would now charge 150 to re do the three custom tunes I purchased from him 6 months before because of new strategy code. I only have the 93 3bar now on top of the ford's TSP redo of the PCM
Quote from: avidmotion on January 17, 2017, 01:14:29 AM
Ford charged 80 for the TSP hesitation retune of pcm. Said they would use towards the 100 deductible for warranty work, for replacing the PTU for a bad whining issue. My tuner said he would now charge 150 to re do the three custom tunes I purchased from him 6 months before because of new strategy code. I only have the 93 3bar now on top of the ford's TSP redo of the PCM
So you got an updated strategy from Ford?
Damn that's unfortunate, it takes about 90 seconds per tune to create a new tune from an old tune.
Does this tuner charge for every change to your setup that needs a tune revision? That's a throwback to the dark ages. Tuners today only charge extra for major mods, and a strategy code/PCM calibration update is not one of them.
If this guy is charging you every time there is a change, you already have a SCT device, next time I would ping AJPTurbo..... his tunes are fantastic and doesn't charge for revisions. His tune cost as much as your revisions... same with Unleashed and BCB I believe.
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I must be in the wrong field/profession,lol.....150.00 in 90 sec!!!! and would have to agree its very unfortunate to say the least. Z
Quote from: ZSHO on January 17, 2017, 12:17:20 PM
I must be in the wrong field/profession,lol......150.00 in 90 sec and would have to agree its very unfortunate. Z
Math on that works out to $6,000/hr if it's steady work... looks like I need to order the PRP and start learning!!! ROI on that is insane!
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Quote from: avidmotion on January 17, 2017, 01:14:29 AM
Ford charged 80 for the TSP hesitation retune of pcm. Said they would use towards the 100 deductible for warranty work, for replacing the PTU for a bad whining issue. My tuner said he would now charge 150 to re do the three custom tunes I purchased from him 6 months before because of new strategy code. I only have the 93 3bar now on top of the ford's TSP redo of the PCM
Your tuner is either a thief or a hack, either way I wouldn't let him tune my leaf blower.
For those that have had this fail, did you see the P0087 code?
I'm at the dealership right meow getting my fuel pump swapped out.
From all accounts, it might make a noticeable improvement, good luck!
Quote from: SHOdded on January 26, 2017, 11:59:57 AM
From all accounts, it might make a noticeable improvement, good luck!
Okay seriously, EVERYONE needs to go do this. It got rid of the cold start throttle surge I had. Also, dare I say this without a lot of miles but it may have rid the car of the annoying low throttle surge I was having!!!
Quote from: Vortech347 on January 27, 2017, 11:31:55 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on January 26, 2017, 11:59:57 AM
From all accounts, it might make a noticeable improvement, good luck!
Okay seriously, EVERYONE needs to go do this. It got rid of the cold start throttle surge I had. Also, dare I say this without a lot of miles but it may have rid the car of the annoying low throttle surge I was having!!!
It sounds like they reflashed your car,any pic's of the work order? Thanks & enjoy. Z
Quote from: ZSHO on January 28, 2017, 06:59:46 AM
Quote from: Vortech347 on January 27, 2017, 11:31:55 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on January 26, 2017, 11:59:57 AM
From all accounts, it might make a noticeable improvement, good luck!
Okay seriously, EVERYONE needs to go do this. It got rid of the cold start throttle surge I had. Also, dare I say this without a lot of miles but it may have rid the car of the annoying low throttle surge I was having!!!
It sounds like they reflashed your car,any pic's of the work order? Thanks & enjoy. Z
I don't believe they did...Or he is driving around stock.
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I didn't have to swap the harness, the new module was a direct replacement.
Quote from: ZSHO on January 28, 2017, 06:59:46 AM
Quote from: Vortech347 on January 27, 2017, 11:31:55 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on January 26, 2017, 11:59:57 AM
From all accounts, it might make a noticeable improvement, good luck!
Okay seriously, EVERYONE needs to go do this. It got rid of the cold start throttle surge I had. Also, dare I say this without a lot of miles but it may have rid the car of the annoying low throttle surge I was having!!!
It sounds like they reflashed your car,any pic's of the work order? Thanks & enjoy. Z
I'm already running the most current strategy you can get for a 13'.
I just received a recall letter from my dealer to make an appointment for the replace of the fuel pump control module. Do I have to return my tune to stock , will they reflash the computer when they replace the fuel pump module ?? Thanks
Quote from: joe raptor on March 26, 2017, 09:34:43 AM
I just received a recall letter from my dealer to make an appointment for the replace of the fuel pump control module. Do I have to return my tune to stock , will they reflash the computer when they replace the fuel pump module ?? Thanks
The dealer sometimes will need to update(reflash)your PCM for this recall IIRC or for any other matter when you least expect it so would revert back to stock tune prior to the dealer visit just to be on the safe side of things. Z
That's what I thought !! Thanks brother
I actually just installed this in a buddy's 2013 mks a couple weeks ago, but not the ecoboost version, so it wasn't part of the recall. He bought the part from a ford / lincoln dealership for like $60. Parts guy told him they've been going through a lot of these modules lately.
The car was randomly stalling out on him and throwing lean colds. Swapped the new module in and he's been good ever since.
My car still running strong ,I haven't have any issues with the module or throwing codes at all . I been having my car since 2015 and no issues at all ! :)
Mine was tuned when the module went and they re-flashed it after they did the work. I had no issues from that, outside of needing a new tune from Livernois.
Does anyone know where this is physically located in a 2014 SHO? I checked in the trunk and didn't see anything. I have a ton of car audio gear in the car so I'm going to have to rip some stuff apart, but I found some pics of it being near the rear wheel wells, I checked both sides and didn't see anything. Could it be in the little area right behind the back seats in the middle? There is some module there I had to cut out some room on my amp rack to fit over. Of course I'll need to pull my amp rack to get to it ;_;
It's in the trunk, right side, behind the rear seat. It's behind the trunk liner.
Hawkeye is correct just put down the (passenger side) back seat and its located on top of the shock mount right behind the liner which is held down by two plastic Rivet's. Z
I found using a small flat head screw driver and a pair of needle nose pliers to be ideal. Z
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Well that explains it, I now see the padding there, I was looking in the trunk side behind the liner and there was nothing there. I just went out and pulled the liner back on the passenger compartment side and saw it right there. Thanks!
You need to remove the back seat. It's on the passenger side. You can't miss it once you get back there.
The SHO is a piece of cake to find and replace the (FDM) while the MKS is more of a pita which needs to be accessed through the trunk. Z
Quote from: ZSHO on April 27, 2017, 09:06:07 AM
The SHO is a piece of cake to find and replace the (FDM) while the MKS is more of a pita which needs to be accessed through the trunk. Z
I did a 3.7 non-ecoboost mks about a month ago and got it through the backseat. Not sure if the ecoboost mks is any different. Haven't had to replace mine yet.
Quote from: pmezo33 on April 27, 2017, 10:21:44 AM
Quote from: ZSHO on April 27, 2017, 09:06:07 AM
The SHO is a piece of cake to find and replace the (FDM) while the MKS is more of a pita which needs to be accessed through the trunk. Z
I did a 3.7 non-ecoboost mks about a month ago and got it through the backseat. Not sure if the ecoboost mks is any different. Haven't had to replace mine yet.
Do your rear seats fold down? Mine do not. Two choices with my MKS were remove the back seat or lay in the trunk and access through a small opening. It was not easy to get to.
Quote from: sholxgt on May 01, 2017, 06:02:40 PM
Quote from: pmezo33 on April 27, 2017, 10:21:44 AM
Quote from: ZSHO on April 27, 2017, 09:06:07 AM
The SHO is a piece of cake to find and replace the (FDM) while the MKS is more of a pita which needs to be accessed through the trunk. Z
I did a 3.7 non-ecoboost mks about a month ago and got it through the backseat. Not sure if the ecoboost mks is any different. Haven't had to replace mine yet.
Do your rear seats fold down? Mine do not. Two choices with my MKS were remove the back seat or lay in the trunk and access through a small opening. It was not easy to get to.
They don't. First you need to remove the lower half of the rear seats. There are these two hooks that need to be pushed back to remove that section of the seats. Then you'll have access to a few bolts by the seat belt buckles that loosen the upper part of the rear seat. Loosen them up and just fold that upper section down and you'll have access to the fuel pump module.
It was fairly easy the first time around figuring out where everything was. I could probably do it again in like 20 minutes now that i know where everything is.
Was replaced by warranty not recall. Smelled of propane and whined under medium acceleration. Fluid was low thick and dirty.
20,000 miles later I changed to Amsoil and added a pigtail on the vent tube to make changing a breeze.