So I'm reading over again engine management advanced tuning and ran Into how to calculate fuel needs for hp
Does anyone know a good estimate of how much more fun is needed in di.
And some other pictures I thought were good.
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Great read even if for a ls engine. http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/engines-drivetrain/1505-direct-gasoline-injection-is-here-time-to-get-familiar/
New pumps look to flow ~60% more than stockers if you get the bigger of the two new ones....
LMS claims 400 whp with their current top tune with bolt ons with current fueling...
So in theory with 60% more fuel you can hit 640 whpish...which is around 800 chpish... with 25% drive train loss...
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DeatschWerks 1700cc Injectors. Z
https://www.rallysportdirect.com/fits/2013-ford-taurus-sho-3-5/fuel-injectors/det-19s-00-1700-6-deatschwerks-1700cc-injectors (https://www.rallysportdirect.com/fits/2013-ford-taurus-sho-3-5/fuel-injectors/det-19s-00-1700-6-deatschwerks-1700cc-injectors)
http://raceconsultingagency.com/deatschwerks/deatschwerks-fuel-injectors/19s0017006/i-2274368.aspx (http://raceconsultingagency.com/deatschwerks/deatschwerks-fuel-injectors/19s0017006/i-2274368.aspx)
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Need I say... LMS and other vendors such a EPP has stated that once you get over 450 whp these engines become high stressed.
While soon we will have more fuel to crank up the powah the drivetrain limitations are going to become more an issue...
I suspect by the time you max out the stock injectors you will be looking a major upgrades to continue on safely...
Quote from: StealBlueSho on March 29, 2017, 07:06:20 AM
New pumps look to flow ~60% more than stockers if you get the bigger of the two new ones....
LMS claims 400 whp with their current top tune with bolt ons with current fueling...
So in theory with 60% more fuel you can hit 640 whpish...which is around 800 chpish... with 25% drive train loss...
Does that 400whp est include meth and cat back exhaust?
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Typically meth, yes, along with downpipes. You can eke out some more if you do the entire intake/exhaust. Only Livernois can say how much that would add.
Bah, I have an email from them stating with CAI, DPs, Exhaust, Plugs, Thermostats, and their 4+x race tune I should be putting down 397/402... no meth...
Race tune .. with race warranty, LOL. Which exhaust btw? It will be interesting to see how it works with meth, now that bamsho has it installed. 450 whp?
Quote from: SHOdded on March 29, 2017, 08:10:51 PM
Race tune .. with race warranty, LOL. Which exhaust btw? It will be interesting to see how it works with meth, now that bamsho has it installed. 450 whp?
How what works with meth?
The race tune.
Quote from: SHOdded on March 30, 2017, 12:21:54 AM
The race tune.
LMS has a separate tune for meth called stage 5.
I ran my race tune file just to make sure the meth setup was working correctly. It was the most aggressive tune I had. Just got my new tune files, will upload them later today. I got 93 V8 Meth and 93 V10 Meth.
Looking fwd to results, Brian. Any chance you will have your SHO on the dyno with the latest setup/hottest tune?
If I put her on the dyno, probably mid or late April.
What are the stock injectors 1100? And current best tune on stock fueling gets you 400whp? Can anyone confirm these? Or correct me
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if you want a 1000hp ecoboost you will need to get the cylinder heads off the gt. both cylinder heads have hpfp. then upgrade both pumps to extreme di best pumps. then larger turbos of course with high flowing manifolds like the ones offered from full race. dont forget a solid long block build...
Trying to do the actual math of fuel needs is a good place to start first but I'd say just maxing out the stock hpfp and then supplementing the rest by port Injection would do it.
The gt has two hpfp? I haven't read anything on that except for the ls7 is di and there are aftermarket hpfp and even aftermarket cams to run two hpfp on the ls7
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But this would still all be theredical still since the whole drive train would need to be upgraded