I can now offer you Interceptor gauges for you SHO/F150 (custom logos avail) but it will monitor all Ecoboost vehicles out there.
Ford Ecoboost Aeroforce gauge demo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8202PeBo9Q#)
http://shop.ecoboostpowerparts.com/Aeroforce-Interceptor-Gauge-Ford-EcoBoost-All-AeoforceCN1.htm (http://shop.ecoboostpowerparts.com/Aeroforce-Interceptor-Gauge-Ford-EcoBoost-All-AeoforceCN1.htm)
Nice addition to the arsenal! The appearance options allow you to pick (1) only?
Quote from: SHOdded on February 19, 2014, 02:08:39 PM
Nice addition to the arsenal! The appearance options allow you to pick (1) only?
Thanks, updated and publishing now. :)
Sweet! Will be purchasing one tonight.
Just to clarify, if you get just 1 gage you can still have 1 line display constant and the second line can be programmed to cycle?
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Does it come with the mounting bezel to mount as shown in the video?
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Quote from: ONLYA6 on February 19, 2014, 02:51:28 PM
Sweet! Will be purchasing one tonight.
Just to clarify, if you get just 1 gage you can still have 1 line display constant and the second line can be programmed to cycle?
According to the video that is a YES !
I've had my Guage Pod for awhile now and still haven't decided on what gauges I'll do . Since My DP's and Torries Tuner are on the way I need to get SERIOUS ..
I like these Gauges but with a tablet running Torque and Bluetooth Dongle all ways plugged in , can you use a OBD II spliter and the gauges still work ?
many out there , but this one is on Amazon :
http://www.amazon.com/OBDII-Splitter-J1962M-2-J1962F-145802/dp/B000TMCX72 (http://www.amazon.com/OBDII-Splitter-J1962M-2-J1962F-145802/dp/B000TMCX72)
If using 2 or 3 of these Guages do they daisy chain with only one connection to the OBD II port ?
Quote from: ONLYA6 on February 19, 2014, 02:51:52 PM
Does it come with the mounting bezel to mount as shown in the video?
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It does not come with the pod.
Order received and sent over to Aeroforce!
:) My understanding is 3-5 business days for shipment as they're built to order.
Thank ya!
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Quote from: SwampRat on February 19, 2014, 03:42:42 PM
Quote from: ONLYA6 on February 19, 2014, 02:51:28 PM
Sweet! Will be purchasing one tonight.
Just to clarify, if you get just 1 gage you can still have 1 line display constant and the second line can be programmed to cycle?
According to the video that is a YES !
I've had my Guage Pod for awhile now and still haven't decided on what gauges I'll do . Since My DP's and Torries Tuner are on the way I need to get SERIOUS ..
I like these Gauges but with a tablet running Torque and Bluetooth Dongle all ways plugged in , can you use a OBD II spliter and the gauges still work ?
many out there , but this one is on Amazon :
http://www.amazon.com/OBDII-Splitter-J1962M-2-J1962F-145802/dp/B000TMCX72 (http://www.amazon.com/OBDII-Splitter-J1962M-2-J1962F-145802/dp/B000TMCX72)
If using 2 or 3 of these Guages do they daisy chain with only one connection to the OBD II port ?
I tried to do it and it didn't work for me, you may have better luck but I am not for sure it will work to run the TSX and Aeroforce gauge simultaneously.
My suspicions are confirmed according to the diesel guys also confirmed with Aeroforce:
The problem you're going to run into is that you cannot have two OBD "scan" devices on the CAN bus at the same time. At least not both running at the same time. The reason (and this may or may not make sense) is that scan tools/devices use a specific node ID to request data from the PCM. If you have two (or more) devices on the bus and both are requesting data, the PCM will handle each data request in the order it was received. The problem occurs when the data is sent back to the scan device. Since both devices are listening for a response, both may receive the data but only one will be the right device. This may cause one (or more) devices to display incorrect data and may even cause one (or more) devices to freeze up.
The only situation where this may not be an issues is if you are using one device to monitor transmission only data and another device to monitor engine only data, and ONLY in the case where the vehicle has a separate ECM and TCM... like the 6.0L, 6.4L, 6.7L, etc. Since the ECM and TCM use a different CAN Node ID (0x7E0 for ECM and 0x7E1 for TCM), there is not going to be any conflict as to which device gets the intended data.
There are some other issues relating to bus termination that may also be a problem from running multiple devices on the same bus, but that's another story.
All of this boils down to the fact that it's not really advisable to run to more than one OBD device at a time. If you do, expect unexpected results.
Quote from: 4DRHTRD on February 19, 2014, 04:48:28 PM
All of this boils down to the fact that it's not really advisable to run to more than one OBD device at a time. If you do, expect unexpected results.
OK .... So if the SCT iTSX Bluetooth dongle is unplugged and used only for tuning , I assume the same would hold true with trying to run Torque / with a OBDII dongle and the Aeroforce gauges at the same time ?
Quote from: SwampRat on February 19, 2014, 05:03:37 PM
Quote from: 4DRHTRD on February 19, 2014, 04:48:28 PM
All of this boils down to the fact that it's not really advisable to run to more than one OBD device at a time. If you do, expect unexpected results.
OK .... So if the SCT iTSX Bluetooth dongle is unplugged and used only for tuning , I assume the same would hold true with trying to run Torque / with a OBDII dongle and the Aeroforce gauges at the same time ?
Just unplug the gauge from the OBD2 port and plug in the TSX. You're not going to be driving around and tuning anyhow, car will be key on but not running.
Quote from: 4DRHTRD on February 19, 2014, 05:07:29 PM
Quote from: SwampRat on February 19, 2014, 05:03:37 PM
Quote from: 4DRHTRD on February 19, 2014, 04:48:28 PM
All of this boils down to the fact that it's not really advisable to run to more than one OBD device at a time. If you do, expect unexpected results.
OK .... So if the SCT iTSX Bluetooth dongle is unplugged and used only for tuning , I assume the same would hold true with trying to run Torque / with a OBDII dongle and the Aeroforce gauges at the same time ?
Just unplug the gauge from the OBD2 port and plug in the TSX. You're not going to be driving around and tuning anyhow, car will be key on but not running.
Let me try to rephrase this : Tuner is UNPLUGED ..... will the same issues arise with a dongle running Torque and Aeroforce Gauges at the same time ?
IF I buy these Gauges it seems that they must daisy chain ... can you run 3 at once and I would think they would just hook up to the OBD II port via one connection ?
Yes you can't run two different OBD2 readers simultaneously, the dual aeroforce gauge uses it's on special device that shares data between the two display units.
So don't run a bluetooth dongle with Aeroforce, you can run one or the other from what I'm reading.
That being said it's like $17.00 for the cord, buy one and see if you can get it to work. :)
So really what we would need is something that provides a HAL like Windows does, bypassing confusion for the PCM's OBD from multiple requestors. It would introduce cost, complexity, and slight delays in data display though.
Quote from: SHOdded on February 19, 2014, 06:28:56 PM
So really what we would need is something that provides a HAL like Windows does, bypassing confusion for the PCM's OBD from multiple requestors. It would introduce cost, complexity, and slight delays in data display though.
What do you mean by Slight ? Yeh , money could be an issue to me but it might be worth it .
Quote from: SwampRat on February 19, 2014, 06:32:01 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on February 19, 2014, 06:28:56 PM
So really what we would need is something that provides a HAL like Windows does, bypassing confusion for the PCM's OBD from multiple requestors. It would introduce cost, complexity, and slight delays in data display though.
What do you mean by Slight ? Yeh , money could be an issue to to me it might be worth it .
It's going to have to be made from scratch and nobody has done one so it's not going to be cheap or even affordable for the first one unless you're an electronics GOD that understands CAN bus data communications and ID. :)
That guy in the vid said Echo-Boost...just like my Dad. LOL
Quote from: ONLYA6 on February 19, 2014, 02:51:28 PM
Sweet! Will be purchasing one tonight.
Just to clarify, if you get just 1 gage you can still have 1 line display constant and the second line can be programmed to cycle?
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You can have both lines constant, both lines cycling, or just bottom line cycling.
Todd
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Let me try to rephrase this : Tuner is UNPLUGED ..... will the same issues arise with a dongle running Torque and Aeroforce Gauges at the same time ?
IF I buy these Gauges it seems that they must daisy chain ... can you run 3 at once and I would think they would just hook up to the OBD II port via one connection ?
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You can run 1,2, or 3 Aeroforce gauges at the same time, they are programmed to run together. One connection to the OBD2 port, with the cable splitting to both gauges of a dual set.
Todd
Question: will this gauge read and display trans temp and oil pressure without an added sender? Im unsure if the trans temp and oil pressure is in the obd2 data.
Thank you
Ford does have a data coming in for transmission fluid temp. I can check on oil pressure but I can't tell you PID they are
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Ecoboostsho figured out the PID for trans temp.
I can confirm it is working.
Here's the link
http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?topic=2118.0
Torque Pro Missing PID's for Transmission Temp Guage .... and others
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Just received mine. I do have 1 complaint - I paid $10 for the additional faceplate that says SHO. It is just a blank faceplate with a cutout sticker on it. I would have expected no less than it printed on there like the factory plate.
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Quote from: ONLYA6 on February 24, 2014, 03:06:05 PM
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Just received mine. I do have 1 complaint - I paid $10 for the additional faceplate that says SHO. It is just a blank faceplate with a cutout sticker on it. I would have expected no less than it printed on there like the factory plate.
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I only know what they charge me, I just ordered one for my CTS-V with dual wide band setup (damn V has narrow bands stock)
I'm not complaining on your part Mike as a vendor. I would think Aeroforce would do better than a sticker on the faceplate.
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Looks good and hard to tell its a sticker in a photo. How dose it look in person? can you tell right away or do you really have to look at it? Either way it is a nice gage for the price.
echo boost? lol
Sorry I had too. :)
Wow! A sticker? That just killed it for me. I have one of Crash's center gauge pods and was going to get 3 of these with the SHO faceplate, but not if it's just a sticker. I still plan on getting the triple Aeroforce Interceptor setup, but not gonna go with the "custom" SHO sticker. Thanks for pointing that out.
Someone needs to sell a one gauge pod, column cover type. Not a fan of the A pillar.
Maybe Crash can engrave the faceplates for us ;)
engraving would be out of my realm. But maybe something billet badges could do?
Quote from: SHO MAN on February 22, 2014, 08:42:08 PM
Question: will this gauge read and display trans temp and oil pressure without an added sender? Im unsure if the trans temp and oil pressure is in the obd2 data.
Thank you
It will read trans temp. from the OBD2 port. You would have to add an oil pressure sensor as Ford does not have one on this car from the factory. The gauge has 2 analog inputs for this purpose. You can get an oil pressure sensor from our dealers such as Mike.
Todd
Quote from: ONLYA6 on February 24, 2014, 03:06:05 PM
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Just received mine. I do have 1 complaint - I paid $10 for the additional faceplate that says SHO. It is just a blank faceplate with a cutout sticker on it. I would have expected no less than it printed on there like the factory plate.
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Huh, most of our optional faces use decals and people are very happy with them. Most people prefer them because they have multiple colors unlike the monochromatic printed ones. Are you saying it doesn't look good? I have a dual set on my SHO which is shown in the video and people that have seen them think they look great. As for very low volume options like the SHO, there would be no option under say $30 ea. using the resources and limited connections we have if we paid for the design and a screen to do 10 a year. So you think $10 is too much for a $4 molded face and a low volume decal and labor to attach it?
Feel free to make your own if you can do better cheaper, you can buy the blank faces from us and do your own printing and sell them. I'd love for someone to take this over, we make nothing on them and it's quite a bit of effort.
Todd
Quote from: futat2 on February 24, 2014, 03:23:10 PM
Looks good and hard to tell its a sticker in a photo. How dose it look in person? can you tell right away or do you really have to look at it? Either way it is a nice gage for the price.
It looks like the photo only a little crisper in person. It's red with silver outline.
Todd
Quote from: SHO MAN on February 24, 2014, 09:14:32 PM
Wow! A sticker? That just killed it for me. I have one of Crash's center gauge pods and was going to get 3 of these with the SHO faceplate, but not if it's just a sticker. I still plan on getting the triple Aeroforce Interceptor setup, but not gonna go with the "custom" SHO sticker. Thanks for pointing that out.
It's just an option. You'll still get the Aeroforce face either way. You can also get a blank face if you want to make your own.
We sell thousands of these, go to SVT performance or any Camaro/GM forum and see how many complaints there are about the faces. I can only remember one from a Boss 302 owner. Just because it's a decal doesn't mean it's bad. I really don't care if we don't sell any SHO or whatever face, there is no money made off of those at $10 ea.
Todd
Todd
Quote from: forcefedjunkie on February 25, 2014, 04:24:58 PM
Quote from: SHO MAN on February 22, 2014, 08:42:08 PM
Question: will this gauge read and display trans temp and oil pressure without an added sender? Im unsure if the trans temp and oil pressure is in the obd2 data.
Thank you
It will read trans temp. from the OBD2 port. You would have to add an oil pressure sensor as Ford does not have one on this car from the factory. The gauge has 2 analog inputs for this purpose. You can get an oil pressure sensor from our dealers such as Mike.
Todd
Speaking of parameters, it also reads some unique Ecoboost ones like knock retard, learned knock, IAT2 (post intercooler), and something called Charge Air Temp. which is a Ford term. This reads a valid temperature somewhat similar to IAT2 and I'm wondering if anyone knows more about this one. Where is the sensor?
Todd
Quote from: forcefedjunkie on February 25, 2014, 04:47:38 PM
Quote from: SHO MAN on February 24, 2014, 09:14:32 PM
Wow! A sticker? That just killed it for me. I have one of Crash's center gauge pods and was going to get 3 of these with the SHO faceplate, but not if it's just a sticker. I still plan on getting the triple Aeroforce Interceptor setup, but not gonna go with the "custom" SHO sticker. Thanks for pointing that out.
It's just an option. You'll still get the Aeroforce face either way. You can also get a blank face if you want to make your own.
We sell thousands of these, go to SVT performance or any Camaro/GM forum and see how many complaints there are about the faces. I can only remember one from a Boss 302 owner. Just because it's a decal doesn't mean it's bad. I really don't care if we don't sell any SHO or whatever face, there is no money made off of those at $10 ea.
Todd
Todd
Didn't mean to ruffle any feathers, Todd. just saying that the pics and videos looks great and I don't think the original poster was expecting stickers. I guess my reluctance now would be worrying about them lifting off eventually and making the setup look a little shoddy. But otherwise, these gauges seem to be the perfect solution for a lot of us.
No foul, was just surprised at the original comment and wanted to point out all the options.
Todd
Do you guys like to monitor knock retard for tuning purposes? I don't see a lot of talk about it on the Ford side. GM guys swear by it.
These gauges don't have the latency problems of cell phone apps, so you can make use of dynamic parameters such as knock retard, ignition advance etc.
Todd
Knock retard monitoring is a huge issue for us along with monitoring both the low fuel pressure and high fuel pressure.
Just ordered my dual gauge setup with the SHO logo. These will be used along with my AEM W/M flow gauge in Crash's center gauge pod.
Quote from: Wild13SHO on March 02, 2014, 04:01:31 PM
Just ordered my dual gauge setup with the SHO logo. These will be used along with my AEM W/M flow gauge in Crash's center gauge pod.
Order received and placed with Aeroforce!
Thanks!
Mike
Does anyone make a dual A-pillar pod?
Quote from: SHOmanMike84 on March 02, 2014, 04:37:59 PM
Does anyone make a dual A-pillar pod?
Pretty sure BPD's are custom.
I've been pretty meh about these gauges until now.
The pics just don't do them justice, thanks for the vid.
Any chance on better pricing for buying 3?
Will these work on the Sports?
Quote from: TouchOfEvil on March 03, 2014, 12:26:56 AM
Will these work on the Sports?
Absolutely! Any of the Ecoboost vehicles.
There are some 52mm one gauge pods on ebay - they look a little cheap, but I may still try one of I go this route. Here is a link.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BLACK-SINGLE-GAUGE-DASH-MOUNT-HOLDER-52MM-2-1-16-POD-FITS-AUTOMETER-GAUGES-A-/111144028342?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item19e0b348b6&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/BLACK-SINGLE-GAUGE-DASH-MOUNT-HOLDER-52MM-2-1-16-POD-FITS-AUTOMETER-GAUGES-A-/111144028342?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item19e0b348b6&vxp=mtr)
I also have a very potentially neophyte question: I have tried to understand and read this thread and am looking for a concrete answer to 3 newbie type questions related to this gauge:
1. I don't have anything else hooked into my OBD 2 while driving. I only use it to tune. If I buy this Aeroforce gauge, do I simply plug into the OBD2 and IT WILL DISPLAY TURBO BOOST if I choose?
2. Other than plugging into to OBD 2 is there really nothing else to do - no other hardware to hook up to vacuum lines or anything?
3. Will it turn on and off automatically when car is on and off?
I was considering adding a vaccum boost gauge for my 2010 MKS (that is really all I am looking for) and I know that route would be a lot cheaper, but I am hesitant to tackle the job and run wires through the firewall etc. This seems like it will achieve my objective and it is something I can handle. But, I need to know the above 3 answers first.... basically, is it so easy a caveman can do it? LOL. I had an OBD2 heads up display once, so i am familiar with the concept, but need to know if the Aeroforce will actually read boost.
THANKS.
I just received my center gauge pod from Chris. The woven metal and vinyl covering match OEM exactly, workmanship is awesome and mounting is easy... It can have the face drilled for anything that goes in the space allowed (I'm doing 52mm gauges, but some folks have put other controls also with rectangle faces, etc.) It is not cheap... but you'll look at it very time you think about gauges and It is well worth it! Kudos to crash!
Here's his install link on the forum. There are other posts with pics also and the links are at the bottom of the post linked below.
http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?topic=749.msg6426#msg6426 (http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?topic=749.msg6426#msg6426)
^^ Those are so awesome - nothing like that for the MKS yet. :(
The interceptor guages do read boost AND lots more.
This link lets you download a .pdf of the parameters it can show :
http://aeroforcetech.com/files/parameters_features.pdf (http://aeroforcetech.com/files/parameters_features.pdf)
a small set such as engine oil temp require analog sending units to be installed if you want that to be show .
The Guages turn on and off with the ECU.
Very straightforward simple install unless you need some of the analog inputs .
Thanks for the answers^^. I am sure i will like some of the other features - but primary and single goal right now is a boost gauge for no other reason than I think it will be fun to look at. I had looked at the link, but recalled some sort of disclaimer about all features not available on all cars - I think... But so long as boost is plug and play with our cars with no other sending units required, as soon as I figure out a mounting area or find a single pod I like, I am ordering!
Here's another mounting option I came up with using our dual dash pod. I honestly think it's one of the best looking uses of this pod that I've seen. I mounted it so that it's slightly angled towards the driver.
(http://aeroforcetech.com/uploads/Sho_dashpod_farsm.jpg)
(http://aeroforcetech.com/uploads/SHO_dashpod1sm.jpg)
(http://aeroforcetech.com/uploads/Sho_dashpod_sidesm.jpg)
Installation requires removing the speaker cover, drilling a hole next to the speaker and through the cover to run the cable. It was quite easy actually. The only modification to the normal installation process was to place some jb weld/Kwik weld type epoxy between the rear of the pod and the cover to eliminate the gap at the back end. This wasn't that bad to begin with but I'm picky.
We may sell this as a completed unit, or just the pod with template and a some adhesive.
Todd
Very cool option Todd! Looks righteous.
Very nice! I had a similar idea once, except with 3 gauges. But having the time and the amount of work it takes to replicate and the cost. Perhaps in the future but I already don't have enough time in the day.
Quote from: TSS on March 03, 2014, 11:17:50 AM
Thanks for the answers^^. I am sure i will like some of the other features - but primary and single goal right now is a boost gauge for no other reason than I think it will be fun to look at. I had looked at the link, but recalled some sort of disclaimer about all features not available on all cars - I think... But so long as boost is plug and play with our cars with no other sending units required, as soon as I figure out a mounting area or find a single pod I like, I am ordering!
The gauges will support your car, I'm looking for a column gauge install
Love the pod - center speaker one. Any more shots?
The dual dash pod is available on the Aeroforce website but I'm planning on making a "kit" which includes some simple instructions, a template, and a couple other things. The pods are currently on a 2 week backorder but we'll have plenty after that. You don't really need the "kit" but it will just make it a little easier to install.
Also, some have asked about the dual gauge install shown in the youtube video. That was just a custom made deal using two Autometer angle rings that had a flat spot ground on the bottom so that I could affix them to the steering column using 3M tape. I'll put some picture up of that soon.
Todd
I saw a single pod that was universal and mounted near the base of the A pillar near the windshield. I liked it, but it was 105 bucks. I don't have any issue paying that kind of money for the pod, but was just uncertain of the quality. Todd, any single pod/column mount suggestions? I want column mount or near the windshield/A pillar. I know nobody is going to mkake one for the MKS (because they will sell 2 of them maximum) - so universal is what I am searching. As soon as I find a pod, I am ordering the gauge from you.
I know Chris & I have discussed it, but was unfeasible for him to do. & TSS the one that I saw that was a dual pod A pillar was the black one that Storm used to modify it to work on his before he sold it. The problem is both Chris & I & most likely you want is something to match the fabric that was there & not look like it was just stuck on but more like Chris center pod & now now Todd's pod that add the extra gauges without disturbing the aesthics of the car. I'm very interested as want to add oil pressure gauge & one other gauge for sure to my car. Other than that a column pod maybe the only choice.
mikev
Quote from: mval on March 04, 2014, 10:04:35 AM
The problem is both Chris & I & most likely you want is something to match the fabric that was there & not look like it was just stuck on but more like Chris center pod & now now Todd's pod
mikev
bpd Mike had his A pillar and the mounted pod leather wrapped... looks good. If the cloth couldn't be easily matched I bet either leather or perhaps a vinyl to match the dash. If you did the wrap on both A pillars there wouldn't be any aesthetic asymmetry. If cloth is the main desire and it's not available to you retail I bet you could cut the headliner out of a wrecked car and use that.
I am actually not worried about color matching. SEM Leather Dye and Vinyl dye and Fabric Dye is great stuff i have used many times. You can get it (and color charts) from most Auto Body Shop Suppliers. I already have a can for the MKS that I would be satisfied with IF I decided to paint it. .
Also, my dash is black anyway, so if something sat in the dash tucked way up near the a pillar/windshield intersection, I would likely be okay if it was black. BUT, I only want one pod. AND, I want the gauge pod to be small and discreet and blend in.
Quote from: TSS on March 04, 2014, 11:12:03 AM
I am actually not worried about color matching.
Agreed about color and changing... I was talking about matching the texture of the material used for the pillar wrap.
Also, my dash is black anyway, so if something sat in the dash tucked way up near the a pillar/windshield intersection, I would likely be okay if it was black. BUT, I only want one pod. AND, I want the gauge pod to be small and discreet and blend in.
I will be anxious to see what you come up with for your MKS. I am interested in the same thing you are but do not see a very good place to mount it. I thought about that wasted space in the console where it says LINCOLN, but that is too far out of sight and I don't really want to mess with taking that panel off.
^^ thought of that too - but not discreet and low profile enough for me....and I don't like vent pods - they look tacky to me.
I am trying to find a rear view of the gauge so I know where the OB2 input attaches to the gauge as I ponder install idea. Does it enter from the bottom? Backside? How big is the connector (to the gauge itself). Any non front facing photo would help! Thanks!
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Here ya go
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thanks!!! Looks like the input connector goes right in the back side? thx.
Isn't there a pod where the sunglasses holder is?
Quote from: TSS on March 04, 2014, 09:31:28 AM
I saw a single pod that was universal and mounted near the base of the A pillar near the windshield. I liked it, but it was 105 bucks. I don't have any issue paying that kind of money for the pod, but was just uncertain of the quality. Todd, any single pod/column mount suggestions? I want column mount or near the windshield/A pillar. I know nobody is going to mkake one for the MKS (because they will sell 2 of them maximum) - so universal is what I am searching. As soon as I find a pod, I am ordering the gauge from you.
Not that I know of at this time. We're thinking about buying a 3D printer to do custom pods like this but we're not there yet.
I was looking at pics of your dash and there looks to be a center dash speaker cover similar to the SHO, this dual pod would probably fit there as well as on my SHO.
Todd
I found this universal dual steering column mount through Perrin that I am going to give a shot:
http://perrinperformance.com/i-13323984-dual-gauge-pod.html (http://perrinperformance.com/i-13323984-dual-gauge-pod.html)
Todd the guys are busting my ass that I don't have a way to mount the dual guages like you did on your car.
:)
Let's figure out a way too get these set up for Flex/SHO/Explorer Sport
I was asked to tell you guys how I did the steering column dual pod shown in the youtube video. It was very easy but looked pretty good I thought. I used 2 Autometer angle rings:
(http://aeroforcetech.com/uploads/angle_rings.jpg)
I ground a flat spot on the large end on both rings.
I attached to the steering column using 3M tape.
The cables were easy to hide around and under the steering column. Finished product looked like this:
(http://aeroforcetech.com/uploads/SHO_gauges_small.jpg)
Or watch the video for better perspective.
Todd
If you're interested on the dual dash pod, we happen to be sold out but will have more next week.
To give you an idea or what's involved in the install here are the steps:
1. Remove speaker cover. It has 5 clips that pop off easily with a vinyl pry tool.
2. Drill hole to the left of speaker assembly big enough for whatever wires are needed.
3. Remove speaker to make it easier to route wires using a fish tape or coat hanger or whatever you use from driver foot well. Once wire are routed run them through hole drilled in step 2.
4. Replace speaker.
5. Drill (2) 1/4" holes in speaker cover to mount pod. Template will be provided. Pod has two clips that will snap into these holes.
6. There will be a small gap between the back most part of the pod and the speaker cover unless you epoxy the back side to the cover, I used a c-clamp and some generic brand of epoxy putty which cures quick. You don't really notice this gap once everything is installed but I'm a perfectionist.
7. Drill a hole in speaker cover on bottom left side where it will be hidden by pod. This is where gauge wires will go.
7. Run wires through this hole and snap speaker cover/pod back into dash.
8. Run the gauge wires to the two pod openings, and install gauges.
That's it!
I'll get the info and add it to the site just in case you guys want to order some when they're available.
Liking the steering column mod.
Quote from: forcefedjunkie on March 04, 2014, 09:49:08 PM
Quote from: TSS on March 04, 2014, 09:31:28 AM
I saw a single pod that was universal and mounted near the base of the A pillar near the windshield. I liked it, but it was 105 bucks. I don't have any issue paying that kind of money for the pod, but was just uncertain of the quality. Todd, any single pod/column mount suggestions? I want column mount or near the windshield/A pillar. I know nobody is going to mkake one for the MKS (because they will sell 2 of them maximum) - so universal is what I am searching. As soon as I find a pod, I am ordering the gauge from you.
Not that I know of at this time. We're thinking about buying a 3D printer to do custom pods like this but we're not there yet.
I was looking at pics of your dash and there looks to be a center dash speaker cover similar to the SHO, this dual pod would probably fit there as well as on my SHO.
Todd
I have compared the SHO and MKS center speaker cover area and unfortunately, in person they are very different. I truly appreciate you taking the time to look it up though.
BUT....that column mod (the easy one) might be an idea and I also am thinking about the sunglass holder too - but I actually use that for sunglasses....
S/ Another "Todd"
Sorry one more question. I know the gauge can display boost with our vehicles, has anybody confirmed that MPH can be displayed too? Todd, the website indictaes "may" be able to display depending on vehicle - or something like that. I am a hair away from ordering if I know I can have boost number on top and MPH on the bottom......
I just ordered mine!
I cannot wait to get the gauge - I also ordered some of the angled autometer gauge holders off ebay for $14.95 for three of them. (See Todd's post number 74 on page 5) I figured an extra few of them were good (even though I only need one) in case I decided to file them for different areas to see what I liked best. I don't know if they will be a temporary or permanent solution until I see the whole thing "installed" in person.
Quote from: TSS on March 07, 2014, 11:35:55 AM
I just ordered mine!
I cannot wait to get the gauge - I also ordered some of the angled autometer gauge holders off ebay for $14.95 for three of them. (See Todd's post number 74 on page 5) I figured an extra few of them were good (even though I only need one) in case I decided to file them for different areas to see what I liked best. I don't know if they will be a temporary or permanent solution until I see the whole thing "installed" in person.
Guys if you need please use my site to order, the profits I am directly sinking back into this site, I'm currently paying a few thousand dollars for the update. Every little bit helps a TON.
http://shop.ecoboostpowerparts.com/Aeroforce-Interceptor-Gauge-Ford-EcoBoost-All-AeoforceCN1.htm (http://shop.ecoboostpowerparts.com/Aeroforce-Interceptor-Gauge-Ford-EcoBoost-All-AeoforceCN1.htm)
Quote from: 4DRHTRD on March 07, 2014, 12:43:58 PM
Guys if you need please use my site to order, the profits I am directly sinking back into this site, I'm currently paying a few thousand dollars for the update. Every little bit helps a TON.
http://shop.ecoboostpowerparts.com/Aeroforce-Interceptor-Gauge-Ford-EcoBoost-All-AeoforceCN1.htm (http://shop.ecoboostpowerparts.com/Aeroforce-Interceptor-Gauge-Ford-EcoBoost-All-AeoforceCN1.htm)
I ordered mine from ecoboostpowerparts and got them super fast. Never had a problem ordering the few parts I did from Mike. I plan on ordering the SHO "noisemaker" eliminator pipe this weekend.
Quote from: Wild13SHO on March 07, 2014, 03:44:11 PM
Never had a problem ordering the few parts I did from Mike.
I 2nd that ... on the up n up for sure .
So far PPE catless down pipes from him and RX evac catch can setup w/ clean side .
And he went out of his way to help BigMac's sale to me with new clamps and Tial BOV for My Hot Pipe Kit ..
Quote from: TSS on March 06, 2014, 12:38:50 PM
Sorry one more question. I know the gauge can display boost with our vehicles, has anybody confirmed that MPH can be displayed too? Todd, the website indictaes "may" be able to display depending on vehicle - or something like that. I am a hair away from ordering if I know I can have boost number on top and MPH on the bottom......
MPH can be displayed so you can display boost and mph at the same time.
Todd
Probably a dumb ?, but they do fit in Crash's pod correct?
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on March 08, 2014, 08:33:41 PM
Probably a dumb ?, but they do fit in Crash's pod correct?
Yes it will and he can drill 1-3 52mm (2 1/16th") holes or a little larger or a different shape or whatever you want and do the faceplate in black or the woven metal which is identical to OEM... I have his pod, and happy to have one the fit and finish are stellar!
PM him for more if you're interested as I think supplies may be limited.
Quote from: BiGMaC on March 08, 2014, 09:30:37 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on March 08, 2014, 08:33:41 PM
Probably a dumb ?, but they do fit in Crash's pod correct?
Yes it will and he can drill 1-3 52mm (2 1/16th") holes or a little larger or a different shape or whatever you want and do the faceplate in black or the woven metal which is identical to OEM... I have his pod, and happy to have one the fit and finish are stellar!
PM him for more if you're interested as I think supplies may be limited.
I've had one sitting here for a while.
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on March 09, 2014, 07:12:53 PM
Quote from: BiGMaC on March 08, 2014, 09:30:37 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on March 08, 2014, 08:33:41 PM
Probably a dumb ?, but they do fit in Crash's pod correct?
Yes it will and he can drill 1-3 52mm (2 1/16th") holes or a little larger or a different shape or whatever you want and do the faceplate in black or the woven metal which is identical to OEM... I have his pod, and happy to have one the fit and finish are stellar!
PM him for more if you're interested as I think supplies may be limited.
I've had one sitting here for a while.
Excellent! ... on of the privileged few! :beer2:
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on March 08, 2014, 08:33:41 PM
Probably a dumb ?, but they do fit in Crash's pod correct?
Installed my Aeroforce gauges in Crashes gauge pod this past weekend. They fit great, look great and work great. I'll get some pictures up tomorrow. Still playing with the setting and what PIDs to display.
Looks like platform 4 has all the right PIDs for our cars. For trans temp it's trans temp 3. I'll run through some others to see what ones works and don't.
Quote from: Wild13SHO on March 11, 2014, 10:06:51 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on March 08, 2014, 08:33:41 PM
Probably a dumb ?, but they do fit in Crash's pod correct?
Installed my Aeroforce gauges in Crashes gauge pod this past weekend. They fit great, look great and work great. I'll get some pictures up tomorrow. Still playing with the setting and what PIDs to display.
Looks like platform 4 has all the right PIDs for our cars. For trans temp it's trans temp 4. I'll run through some others to see what ones works and don't.
Cool! Definitely wanna' see the pics!... :popcorn:
Ok here are a couple of pictures:
(http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww5/Wild83C10/SHO%20Album/IMG_20140310_173449_586_zpsxxcpbpfn.jpg) (http://s700.photobucket.com/user/Wild83C10/media/SHO%20Album/IMG_20140310_173449_586_zpsxxcpbpfn.jpg.html)
(http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww5/Wild83C10/SHO%20Album/IMG_20140310_173439_318_zpsq8nawilq.jpg) (http://s700.photobucket.com/user/Wild83C10/media/SHO%20Album/IMG_20140310_173439_318_zpsq8nawilq.jpg.html)
I got the gauge yesterday! Very cool, but I have a question re: the Boost Function (2010 Lincoln MKS 3.5 Ecoboost).
On the video that is linked in post #1, page #1 , at about 3:00 to 3:25 into the clip or so there appears to be a boost function that displays negative numbers and THEN there is another boost function called desired boost or command boost that only displays 0 and positive numbers. In other words, it does not display any negative numbers. I can get the regular boost function (with negative numbers) but would love to find the other feature that only displays 0 or positive numbers....that way...under normal use without turbo engaged, the numbers are not constantly changing – it would just indicate 0. I took a look at the linked video last night, and that function is definitely there, but for some reason I cannot find it on my unit. Thanks for your help!
Quote from: TSS on March 12, 2014, 08:43:16 AM
I got the gauge yesterday! Very cool, but I have a question re: the Boost Function (2010 Lincoln MKS 3.5 Ecoboost).
On the video that is linked in post #1, page #1 , at about 3:00 to 3:25 into the clip or so there appears to be a boost function that displays negative numbers and THEN there is another boost function called desired boost or command boost that only displays 0 and positive numbers. In other words, it does not display any negative numbers. I can get the regular boost function (with negative numbers) but would love to find the other feature that only displays 0 or positive numbers....that way...under normal use without turbo engaged, the numbers are not constantly changing – it would just indicate 0. I took a look at the linked video last night, and that function is definitely there, but for some reason I cannot find it on my unit. Thanks for your help!
Commanded boost isn't what you're doing it's what the motor is being told to do, not really useful for you.
The negative numbers are vacuum, which is what your car runs on when the throttle isn't engaged.
Quote from: Wild13SHO on March 12, 2014, 07:16:31 AM
Ok here are a couple of pictures:
(http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww5/Wild83C10/SHO%20Album/IMG_20140310_173449_586_zpsxxcpbpfn.jpg) (http://s700.photobucket.com/user/Wild83C10/media/SHO%20Album/IMG_20140310_173449_586_zpsxxcpbpfn.jpg.html)
(http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww5/Wild83C10/SHO%20Album/IMG_20140310_173439_318_zpsq8nawilq.jpg) (http://s700.photobucket.com/user/Wild83C10/media/SHO%20Album/IMG_20140310_173439_318_zpsq8nawilq.jpg.html)
Wild13SHO...Very Sharp! Looks great! :thumb: Thanks for the pics.
Quote from: Wild13SHO on March 12, 2014, 07:16:31 AM
Ok here are a couple of pictures:
(http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww5/Wild83C10/SHO%20Album/IMG_20140310_173449_586_zpsxxcpbpfn.jpg) (http://s700.photobucket.com/user/Wild83C10/media/SHO%20Album/IMG_20140310_173449_586_zpsxxcpbpfn.jpg.html)
(http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww5/Wild83C10/SHO%20Album/IMG_20140310_173439_318_zpsq8nawilq.jpg) (http://s700.photobucket.com/user/Wild83C10/media/SHO%20Album/IMG_20140310_173439_318_zpsq8nawilq.jpg.html)
Looks sharp ...
I need to get busy with mine , I went with Plain AutoMeter gauges = more install work
Wow, that looks fantastic!
Any glare issues?
Here is mine. the display is absolutely clear in person. For some reason I just could not get a picture of it. However, at least it shows the location. No wires at all are visible. I ran them Down between the clear plastic in the gauge cluster and the black plastic that meets the clear plastic.
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/mclspllc/20140312_181734_zps9f87fa36.jpg) (http://s285.photobucket.com/user/mclspllc/media/:/.jpg.html)
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on March 12, 2014, 02:54:22 PM
Any glare issues?
No glare issues. Looks awesome at night, a bit hard to see during the day with the black background and blue digits. Haven't been in the car with the sun out and the blue background and black digits.
Here is a better photo of mine in my MKS (and I have driven at night and now in daylight and no glare or washout issues - the OEM gauge lid does the same thing for the Aeroforce that it does for the OEM analogs) :
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/mclspllc/guage_zpsdfc1e1d9.jpg) (http://s285.photobucket.com/user/mclspllc/media/guage_zpsdfc1e1d9.jpg.html)
Quote from: TSS on March 13, 2014, 09:29:01 AM
Here is a better photo of mine in my MKS (and I have driven at night and now in daylight and no glare or washout issues - the OEM gauge lid does the same thing for the Aeroforce that it does for the OEM analogs) :
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/mclspllc/guage_zpsdfc1e1d9.jpg) (http://s285.photobucket.com/user/mclspllc/media/guage_zpsdfc1e1d9.jpg.html)
Great work... very creative install! :thumb:
Looks good!
Aeroforce makes a great product. I ran one for 5 years in my SRT.
Thanks guys - I wanted it to be "low key" and look as OEM as it can for an add on gauge. Chances are that except for me (and my son) nobody will really notice it (unless they are driving). In person it really blends into the circular shape/color/trim rings of the other gauges. The DIC info is FULLY visible - only over 120 MPH on the analog gauge is hidden. Not a big deal - and if it was, the MPH display on the Aeroforce will let ya know where you are at over 120 MPH. :) I bought the angled autometer rings previously posted and tried that manner a few ways in different locations, but was not happy. I just did not like it sitting upright on the steering column - it looked and felt too precarious to me. In the location I placed it, it is completely stable and secured.
P.S. If somebody needs the autometer angled rings - I have 2 that are new and one that I filed. PM me and they are yours. Just remember the gesture if this site ever starts offering Premium memberships to defray costs, like other sites, and become one!
Quote from: TSS on March 13, 2014, 11:23:00 AM
Thanks guys - I wanted it to be "low key" and look as OEM as it can for an add on gauge. Chances are that except for me (and my son) nobody will really notice it (unless they are driving). In person it really blends into the circular shape/color/trim rings of the other gauges. The DIC info is FULLY visible - only over 120 MPH on the analog gauge is hidden. Not a big deal - and if it was, the MPH display on the Aeroforce will let ya know where you are at over 120 MPH. :) I bought the angled autometer rings previously posted and tried that manner a few ways in different locations, but was not happy. I just did not like it sitting upright on the steering column - it looked and felt too precarious to me. In the location I placed it, it is completely stable and secured.
P.S. If somebody needs the autometer angled rings - I have 2 that are new and one that I filed. PM me and they are yours. Just remember the gesture if this site ever starts offering Premium memberships to defray costs, like other sites, and become one!
PM sent
^^ responded
I just ordered one from ecoboost power parts. I have an MKS and I like TSS's mounting solution. However, I will explore a few options for mounting after I get the gauge.
I am primarily interested in vacuum/boost and ability to measure 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. I am sure I will also like the other things it does. Looking forward to this!
Order received and placed with Aeroforce!
Thanks!!!
Awesome Bruce, I talked ya into it. Bad influence....
Also, as I indicated to Bruce in our emails, and I will offer to any MKS owner, if you get it and need help on the install (wiring routing) I will make myself available by phone for you to talk you through it. The real trick is being able to get your hand up and inside the column without removing parts - I did it and can walk you through it too. I would offer the same to SHO etc owners, but am not positive it's set up the same - MKS has this tricky black retracting door that moves as the power tilt works - its supposed to make it look nicer, but it is prone to breaking and complicates things like this when you want to get up inside the dash!
And BiGMaC, I PMd you my direct email - check your inbox....
TSS... Weird... Second direct email reply sent
Cheers
Got it. Will mail to you Monday.
My gauge will be delivered next week but I have downloaded the manual and have been reading it. I am not quite clear on one thing: Can I set it to show vacuum/boost constantly on one display and have the other display cycle through various parameters that I have chosen?
Quote from: Wild13SHO on March 12, 2014, 09:47:36 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on March 12, 2014, 02:54:22 PM
Any glare issues?
No glare issues. Looks awesome at night, a bit hard to see during the day with the black background and blue digits. Haven't been in the car with the sun out and the blue background and black digits.
You can use the invert menu function to reverse the colors, and set the dimmer to "3". Configured like this you should have no problem seeing it in daylight.
Todd
Quote from: Brucelinc on March 14, 2014, 04:10:21 PM
My gauge will be delivered next week but I have downloaded the manual and have been reading it. I am not quite clear on one thing: Can I set it to show vacuum/boost constantly on one display and have the other display cycle through various parameters that I have chosen?
Yes, I think that may be shown in the video but if not you can do this using the cyclic scan function. It's a little hard to explain if you have not set up and used this function. Basically, you choose an upper and lower parameter for 4 total screens when you set up cyclic scan. Choose the same parameter for either top or bottom parameter in each screen and you will get the result you described. If for example you only want three parameters cycling on top with one staying constant on bottom, choose the same parameter for the first two top displays then the second and third for the last two, while entering the same one 4 times for the bottom. Hope that makes sense.
Todd
Hi guys,
Just got my 3 interceptor gauges installed in my Crash center pod. Looks nothing less than amazing. Pictures soon to come. I have two quick questions if any of you could answer.
1) My three gauges are all connected via OBD2 and start up sequentially after the ignition starts. I'm trying to get all three to start up simultaneously. If I hook up a power wire as well, would this eliminate the sequential start-up?
2) Has anyone found any custom logos/ecoboost logos for the gauges start-up screen? My guages only have the options for Mustang/GT500/Harley/Powerstroke. Is there any way to create custom logos/add more?
Thanks,
Those are the only logos I was able to find as well. It would be cool if they did Have an ecoboost.
another question, has anybody been able to get the current Gear option to work? There are two parameters that indicate this could display, but when I display them, it is definitely not showing me what gear I am in. I would love to be able to display current Gear
Quote from: ayerse07 on March 16, 2014, 11:01:18 AM
Hi guys,
Just got my 3 interceptor gauges installed in my Crash center pod. Looks nothing less than amazing. Pictures soon to come. I have two quick questions if any of you could answer.
1) My three gauges are all connected via OBD2 and start up sequentially after the ignition starts. I'm trying to get all three to start up simultaneously. If I hook up a power wire as well, would this eliminate the sequential start-up?
2) Has anyone found any custom logos/ecoboost logos for the gauges start-up screen? My guages only have the options for Mustang/GT500/Harley/Powerstroke. Is there any way to create custom logos/add more?
Thanks,
You can use switched 12v power to make them all power up at the same time. Otherwise with OBD2 power they will be somewhat close to each other but not exact.
There is not power up screen at this time, just the optional face logos. I can look into this, no guarantees though. What would you want this to look like, the SHO Ecoboost logo? Something different? Someone sent me this once, anyone recognize it? If it's someone elses logo I don't want to use it.
(http://aeroforcetech.com/uploads/Taurus_sho.jpg)
Todd
Quote from: TSS on March 16, 2014, 04:21:59 PM
Those are the only logos I was able to find as well. It would be cool if they did Have an ecoboost.
another question, has anybody been able to get the current Gear option to work? There are two parameters that indicate this could display, but when I display them, it is definitely not showing me what gear I am in. I would love to be able to display current Gear
I have not found any way to display current gear on the SHO yet. Those parameters worked on the Ford trucks I think.
Todd
Quote from: forcefedjunkie on March 16, 2014, 04:27:29 PM(http://aeroforcetech.com/uploads/Taurus_sho.jpg)
I know FMC was using that / this logo exclusively in the pre-release advertising material for various items.
Not sure if they possess proprietary rights on it, or not though.
I've heard horror stories over the years of FMC's legal eagles crack'n the cease & desist whip pretty hard....
Suppose it can tried & found out the difficult way.
Haha :popcorn:
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Quote from: forcefedjunkie on March 16, 2014, 04:27:29 PM
Quote from: ayerse07 on March 16, 2014, 11:01:18 AM
Hi guys,
Just got my 3 interceptor gauges installed in my Crash center pod. Looks nothing less than amazing. Pictures soon to come. I have two quick questions if any of you could answer.
1) My three gauges are all connected via OBD2 and start up sequentially after the ignition starts. I'm trying to get all three to start up simultaneously. If I hook up a power wire as well, would this eliminate the sequential start-up?
2) Has anyone found any custom logos/ecoboost logos for the gauges start-up screen? My guages only have the options for Mustang/GT500/Harley/Powerstroke. Is there any way to create custom logos/add more?
Thanks,
You can use switched 12v power to make them all power up at the same time. Otherwise with OBD2 power they will be somewhat close to each other but not exact.
There is not power up screen at this time, just the optional face logos. I can look into this, no guarantees though. What would you want this to look like, the SHO Ecoboost logo? Something different? Someone sent me this once, anyone recognize it? If it's someone elses logo I don't want to use it.
(http://aeroforcetech.com/uploads/Taurus_sho.jpg)
Todd
I'm confused a little... I thought 2 of the Aeroforce gauges was max that you could use and had to use the splitter wiring for that.... Could someone please clarify? TIA
I just put the triple gauge option up on the site, it's a secret menu item. :)
Quote from: 4DRHTRD on March 16, 2014, 06:14:46 PM
I just put the triple gauge option up on the site, it's a secret menu item. :)
Very cool!
Being that the logo is only on for a few moments as the gauge powers up I don't think that will raise any eyebrows. It's between the one I posted and the SHO Ecoboost logo.
Todd
Alright guys, I've connected the gauges via power wire so that they are hot when the ignition is turned on. I have also removed the jumper behind the guages to bypass the OBD power. Issue is, eiher 1 or 2 of the guages will start up about 15 seconds after the ignition is turned. Then the third will take almost 30 seconds or more to power up. Occasionally the third gauge will get stuck in a reboot cyle sequence and ill have to unplug and reconnect the obd to fix the issue.
Anybody have any similiar issues?
Still trying to get all three to power up "roughly" at the same time to keep that proffesional look.
Even better would be if they would power on as soon as the ignition is turned instead of having to wait almost 15 - 30 seconds.
Thanks guys,
Quote from: ayerse07 on March 19, 2014, 10:30:43 AM
Alright guys, I've connected the gauges via power wire so that they are hot when the ignition is turned on. I have also removed the jumper behind the guages to bypass the OBD power. Issue is, eiher 1 or 2 of the guages will start up about 15 seconds after the ignition is turned. Then the third will take almost 30 seconds or more to power up. Occasionally the third gauge will get stuck in a reboot cyle sequence and ill have to unplug and reconnect the obd to fix the issue.
Anybody have any similiar issues?
Still trying to get all three to power up "roughly" at the same time to keep that proffesional look.
Even better would be if they would power on as soon as the ignition is turned instead of having to wait almost 15 - 30 seconds.
Thanks guys,
ayerse07.... can you tell me how the three gauge hook-up works with the aeroforce gauges? I understand 2, but not 3. Considering them, but want 3 gauges. TIA
Quote from: ayerse07 on March 19, 2014, 10:30:43 AM
Alright guys, I've connected the gauges via power wire so that they are hot when the ignition is turned on. I have also removed the jumper behind the guages to bypass the OBD power. Issue is, eiher 1 or 2 of the guages will start up about 15 seconds after the ignition is turned. Then the third will take almost 30 seconds or more to power up. Occasionally the third gauge will get stuck in a reboot cyle sequence and ill have to unplug and reconnect the obd to fix the issue.
Anybody have any similiar issues?
Still trying to get all three to power up "roughly" at the same time to keep that proffesional look.
Even better would be if they would power on as soon as the ignition is turned instead of having to wait almost 15 - 30 seconds.
Thanks guys,
I would Send a PM to Todd AKA forcefedjunkie he is the expert on these guages
He assembles a special cable from my understanding.
They're now available on my site for purchase, previously you had to buy from Todd.
Quote from: 4DRHTRD on March 19, 2014, 11:09:23 AM
He assembles a special cable from my understanding.
They're now available on my site for purchase, previously you had to buy from Todd.
Is this cabling just included in the triple gauge option?
Where do you mount this gauge (or any gauge, for that matter)? Does someone make a nice pillar pod for a single gauge? I don't need a multiple gauge pod or anything fancy. I don't want to just slap it on top of the steering wheel if I don't have to.
Quote from: JohnnyBravo on March 19, 2014, 01:16:57 PM
Where do you mount this gauge (or any gauge, for that matter)? Does someone make a nice pillar pod for a single gauge? I don't need a multiple gauge pod or anything fancy. I don't want to just slap it on top of the steering wheel if I don't have to.
Take a look at TSS's post #98. JohnnyBravo, I know you have an MKS and so do I. I have spent at least a couple of hours experimenting on how to mount it and I think TSS has the best solution. I hate to admit that because I like to be different!
No matter how you mount the gauge on the column, you will have a partially exposed wire and an "add on" look. You also have to be careful with wire routing or when tilting or telescoping the wheel, you could damage the wire. I think mounting it on the ledge next to the instrument cluster is the best bet for us.
I am wondering if the A pillar on the MKS is the same as the SHO ....
Bpd1151 has a custom 2 guage pod that was made for him .
He mentioned that if he could get 10 guys to committ to it being made that the customizer would do it . Expensive at around $400 but slick looking .
Just a thought .... I'd be in on it .
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee231/bpd1151/SHO%20custom%201%20off%20misc%20stuff/002-9.jpg. (http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee231/bpd1151/SHO%20custom%201%20off%20misc%20stuff/002-9.jpg.)
Quote from: JohnnyBravo on March 19, 2014, 01:16:57 PM
Where do you mount this gauge (or any gauge, for that matter)? Does someone make a nice pillar pod for a single gauge? I don't need a multiple gauge pod or anything fancy. I don't want to just slap it on top of the steering wheel if I don't have to.
As Bruce stated - look at post #98 and #100. I have been using it like that for a week now - works great - no glare, in there solidly.
Quote from: SwampRat on March 19, 2014, 01:55:56 PM
I am wondering if the A pillar on the MKS is the same as the SHO ....
Bpd1151 has a custom 2 guage pod that was made for him .
He mentioned that if he could get 10 guys to committ to it being made that the customizer would do it . Expensive at around $400 but slick looking .
Just a thought .... I'd be in on it .
Very interested in an A-pillar pod, but at $400 that's just crazy.
Quote from: SHOmanMike84 on March 19, 2014, 05:08:41 PM
Quote from: SwampRat on March 19, 2014, 01:55:56 PM
I am wondering if the A pillar on the MKS is the same as the SHO ....
Bpd1151 has a custom 2 guage pod that was made for him .
He mentioned that if he could get 10 guys to committ to it being made that the customizer would do it . Expensive at around $400 but slick looking .
Just a thought .... I'd be in on it .
Very interested in an A-pillar pod, but at $400 that's just crazy.
A good bit of that price is the custom upholstery and hand stitching ..
The price could come down considerably with a different finish such as paint or , I'm not sure what it is called but the spray on stuff that's on the inside of the glove box .
Yes the upholstery is quite costly, in fact my upholsterer I have talk to him about it and he isn't even interested in doing. He said its such pain its just not worth doing. All though I like Mikes finished A-pillar pod and think it turn out fantastic. When I showed him he was unimpressed. Now please to get my guy wrong he is a super guy and great person, he is just to much a perfectionist and if can't be done right he doesn't want to do it. But however the stuff they spray in glove boxes is called flocking and he suggested I look into that for a project like this. Also storm was suppose to have a guy looking into doing something as well.
But I am sure this is more than one way to skin this cat, perhaps one day I will get a bug up my arse to figure out a solution for.
Quote from: crash712us on March 19, 2014, 07:18:00 PM
Yes the upholstery is quite costly, in fact my upholsterer I have talk to him about it and he isn't even interested in doing. He said its such pain its just not worth doing. All though I like Mikes finished A-pillar pod and think it turn out fantastic. When I showed him he was unimpressed. Now please to get my guy wrong he is a super guy and great person, he is just to much a perfectionist and if can't be done right he doesn't want to do it. But however the stuff they spray in glove boxes is called flocking and he suggested I look into that for a project like this. Also storm was suppose to have a guy looking into doing something as well.
But I am sure this is more than one way to skin this cat, perhaps one day I will get a bug up my arse to figure out a solution for.
WELL .... I'm the bug , kinda / sort of ....Eeeeewwwwhhhh
Any way I know you've sold quite a few of your SHO center pods , I guess its a matter of If you have the time to do this .
I Think a flocked A pillar pod whould sell , especially cause of your good rep with the center pod you make . I LOVE MINE ! !
A new post by you to see the potential for you ( and us ) is something you may want to consider . IMHO
So for anybody that has problems in the future running the triple gauge setup, Todd was successfully able to hlep me with my issue. If you want all three gauges to start up simultaneously as soon as the ignition is turned, you have to:
Run the red power.
Remove the jumpers from behind the gauges.
In setup mode, (do NOT choose ecoboost)
Reason being the ecoboost platforms use a different algorithm.
Everything still works, and the setup looks alot more profesional.
Thanks again for the help Todd,
Okay, new duh question: I removed the "jumper" on the back of mine (because I thought it was a mounting bracket and I did not need it). And I wanted the gauge to be as light and compact as possible. Duh. Anyway I have only ONE gauge and it is functioning as it should. Any reason for me to add the Jumper/bracket back at this point? "
Quote from: TSS on March 21, 2014, 10:04:15 AM
Okay, new duh question: I removed the "jumper" on the back of mine (because I thought it was a mounting bracket and I did not need it). And I wanted the gauge to be as light and compact as possible. Duh. Anyway I have only ONE gauge and it is functioning as it should. Any reason for me to add the Jumper/bracket back at this point? "
Todd, what are you calling a jumper/bracket? The U shaped thing that goes over the 2 studs on the back is only for mounting purposes unless I am crazy. You shouldn't need that for your installation - I hope. I don't plan on using it. I made a mounting bracket out of aluminum angle.
i found on the net someone had put his gauges in a spot that i hadn't thought of. pic i got isn't to good but shows location. not the best location but would eliminate an A pillar build.
mike v
ps: guy said you had to have a sunroof to use it but think almost all sho's have sunroof.
what do you think. i want an oil pressure gauge & maybe a aeroforce.
The "jumper" is the small black piece located on the back of the gauge right beside where you plug in the OBD cable. You smply pull it straight out. It disables the power feed from the OBD plug and is neccesary to remove in order to supply 12V power.
Quote from: Brucelinc on March 21, 2014, 10:24:42 AM
Quote from: TSS on March 21, 2014, 10:04:15 AM
Okay, new duh question: I removed the "jumper" on the back of mine (because I thought it was a mounting bracket and I did not need it). And I wanted the gauge to be as light and compact as possible. Duh. Anyway I have only ONE gauge and it is functioning as it should. Any reason for me to add the Jumper/bracket back at this point? "
Todd, what are you calling a jumper/bracket? The U shaped thing that goes over the 2 studs on the back is only for mounting purposes unless I am crazy. You shouldn't need that for your installation - I hope. I don't plan on using it. I made a mounting bracket out of aluminum angle.
Quote from: mval on March 21, 2014, 11:11:45 AM
i found on the net someone had put his gauges in a spot that i hadn't thought of. pic i got isn't to good but shows location. not the best location but would eliminate an A pillar build.
mike v
ps: guy said you had to have a sunroof to use it but think almost all sho's have sunroof.
what do you think. i want an oil pressure gauge & maybe a aeroforce.
I would use that location for aux gauges to fill out a cockpit, but not for primary use. Does look good tho.
Thank you guys. It really was a dumb question. Yes I was talking about the mounting bracket. That's what I thought it was. But then when I heard jumper, I got worried. As for that mounting location, I'm in my car and just checked and it would work in the MKS. good amount of space back there And I opened the sunroof, you can get your hand in very easily However, I really would not want my boost gauge there. It does look neat and tidy and it would fit, but, again, it is too much center stage for me.
That sunroof location seems like it would require you to take your eyes off the road to read the gauges. Pillar pods, dash mounts or mounting near the existing instrument cluster would seem more user friendly to me because they are closer to the proper field of vision for driving.
Just ordered my gauge today!
Quote from: Tom@ecoboostperformance on March 21, 2014, 05:15:59 PM
We just received your order. It will ship between 1-2 business days. Thank you for your business!
Terrific. Thanks, Tommy.
The PPE down pipe is next on the list.
I liked TSS's mounting but I decided to do a column mount instead. I made a bracket out of 1.5" aluminum angle. I drilled holes for the wire and so I could mount the gauge to the bracket using the studs on the gauge. I wanted the gauge centered and a bit closer than on the instrument panel. Ignore the exposed wire in this picture - I fixed that.
(http://i1330.photobucket.com/albums/w562/brucelinc/Carstuff021_zps7cb54351.jpg) (http://s1330.photobucket.com/user/brucelinc/media/Carstuff021_zps7cb54351.jpg.html)
:thumb: Cool fab work!
Nice and clean. Good work. Looks like plenty of room for two more ....one on either side should you ever decide.
Quote from: Brucelinc on March 21, 2014, 10:24:42 AM
Quote from: TSS on March 21, 2014, 10:04:15 AM
Okay, new duh question: I removed the "jumper" on the back of mine (because I thought it was a mounting bracket and I did not need it). And I wanted the gauge to be as light and compact as possible. Duh. Anyway I have only ONE gauge and it is functioning as it should. Any reason for me to add the Jumper/bracket back at this point? "
Todd, what are you calling a jumper/bracket? The U shaped thing that goes over the 2 studs on the back is only for mounting purposes unless I am crazy. You shouldn't need that for your installation - I hope. I don't plan on using it. I made a mounting bracket out of aluminum angle.
The bracket and electrical jumper are two different things. The 2 pin jumper is a small black "Connector" that attached to the two small pins next to the OBD2 connector on the back of the gauge. The bracket is the silver metal pieced that can be used for mounting the gauge.
Todd
I am really enjoying this gauge and am continuing to learn more about how to use some of the features. I wouldn't say that the manual is the best I have ever seen but with trial and error, I am getting all the information that I could hope for.
Although there is no glare from the sun, I have found that with sunglasses on, I can't see the numbers on the gauge. I should also say that with sunglasses on, I cannot read the car's message center, either, so that probably says more about my sunglasses or my eyes than it does the gauge.
One puzzling thing for me: Sometimes, when I start the car, the gauge boots up within a couple of seconds. Other times, it might take as long as a minute or even more to come alive. Any idea why the inconsistency?
on startup, I have the same exact situation Bruce. Most of the time it comes on almost instantly but sometimes it can take up to 60 seconds. As far as the glare, if your sunglasses are polarized, you can encounter those types of issues.
I have non polarized Ray Bans and never have issues. Also have polarized Maui Jims, and sometimes have issues with the Tint in my car (its called the rainbow effect) and screens.
In regards to the startup time of the gauges:
I was having the same problem when I was trying to power my gauges via the obd port. What I learned from Todd, however, if you hard power it via the red cable to a 12volt source they will start up instantaneous and simultaneously when you turn the ignition. The one thing you do have to make sure of is to re-set up the gauges and DO-NOT select ecoboost when it asks. If you select ecoboost then you will not see a difference in the startup time and sequence. All of the features still worked for me.
On a typical installation the gauges are powered by the OBD2 port which has constant battery power. Thus the gauge must "go to sleep" and "wake up" when the car is turned off/on. When it gets no response from the car is goes into sleep mode, when it sees data on the bus again it wakes up. Without getting into too many details this is why the turn on time is not always the same. Bus traffic can change if the car was recently turned off and back on, plus we have delays to prevent start-ups when miscellaneous security messages are transmitted when car is locked. It's very complicated actually. Ayerse07 gave the solution to this if you want immediate startup every time.
Todd
Thanks, Todd, for the explanation. I am fine with the inconsistent start-up now that I know it is normal.
For those who want a column mount that is more solid than the mounting shown in the video, it is pretty easy to make a mounting bracket that is attached with 3M tape. A piece of 1.5 inch aluminum angle from a building materials store, 1/8 inch thickness works well. All you need is a hack saw and drill. A dremel tool is nice to have, too. You only need 2 inches of the angle. Drill a 1/2 inch hole in the back for the wire to come through. The dremel tool is nice to square up the hole a bit. Also drill two holes for the screws on the back of the gauge to come though. Spray paint the bracket to match the gauge. The result is a mount with a 1 1/2 by 2 inch mounting surface. A couple of pieces of 3M mounting tape gives you a very solid set-up.
Here is what it looks like prior to installing. Note that you can easily remove the gauge after installation if you need to just be unscrewing the nuts on the back.
(http://i1330.photobucket.com/albums/w562/brucelinc/Carstuff014_zps1866db3e.jpg) (http://s1330.photobucket.com/user/brucelinc/media/Carstuff014_zps1866db3e.jpg.html)
You can mount in the center or offset to one side. If you choose to offset, you will want to use the dremel tool to slot out the mounting holes so the gauge will be horizontal. (The column tapers on the sides.)
(http://i1330.photobucket.com/albums/w562/brucelinc/gaugemountcrop_zps7dc9464d.jpg) (http://s1330.photobucket.com/user/brucelinc/media/gaugemountcrop_zps7dc9464d.jpg.html)
I predict folks will be asking you to build these for them.
Quote from: TSS on March 25, 2014, 12:57:54 PM
I predict folks will be asking you to build these for them.
LOL. No, they will be asking you how the heck you got the cable between the instrument panel lens and the black plastic bezel. Only YOU could put a 1/4 inch wire through a 1/16 inch space without damaging something. :)
New SHO power up screens:
(http://aeroforcetech.com/uploads/SHO_splash_sm.jpg)
Todd
Way Cool! :thumb:
Finally got mine in and working great.. Even installed the 2 LEDs from the Alky kit into the POD.. Really happy with how it all came together..
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/16/yre8a4ub.jpg)
Mods :
2014 Non PP
LMS 91 3 bar Meth tune
LMS Down pipes
Air raid CAI
Corsa Catback (Black Tips)
Alky Meth Kit
3 Bar
H&R Spings
Even Flo Thermostat
20" TSW Nurburgring
mines in my vent. Cause I don't live in Texas or Phoenix ha. (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/16/araqyraq.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/16/4ury9ydu.jpg)
Quote from: forcefedjunkie on March 27, 2014, 05:52:33 PM
New SHO power up screens:
(http://aeroforcetech.com/uploads/SHO_splash_sm.jpg)
Todd
I like the placement of these Gauges! What products did you buy? and how do you have them attached?
Quote from: SHO-TYM on August 15, 2014, 03:06:18 PM
Quote from: forcefedjunkie on March 27, 2014, 05:52:33 PM
New SHO power up screens:
(http://aeroforcetech.com/uploads/SHO_splash_sm.jpg)
Todd
I like the placement of these Gauges! What products did you buy? and how do you have them attached?
I like that placement as well but didn't want to drill any holes..
I basically used a dremel and cleared out a slot for the wires to fit thru the back side... It sits so far up against the windshield you can't even see them.. I actually used Loctite Mounting puddy to keep the pod down flush.. It seems to be holding and doesn't damage the dash if you decide to remove it..
Mods :
2014 Non PP
LMS 91 3 bar Meth tune
LMS Down pipes
Air raid CAI
Corsa Catback (Black Tips)
Alky Meth Kit
3 Bar
H&R Spings
Even Flo Thermostat
20" TSW Nurburgring
I am bringing this thread back to life, I just received my aeroforce gauges with their duel pod, and not really sure how the gauges secure in the pod. Silly question, but when i slide the gauges in, nothing holds them in the pod, and the metal silver shims provided with the gauges, do not fit into the pod. Any instructions?
i think i figured it out(one metal shim connects to both gauges and is supported by the middle plastic pole that holds the clip on), I am not really a big fan of this design, but i guess if it works. a bit of play in between of gauges and the pod, but okay...I'll make it work.
I just need to figure out what i need to do to make these turn on and off at the same time with the car, and how would i go about uploading the bull picture in the background upon start up. any help?
I believe one member had his done recently,not sure if it was nick,will try to find the post for you . Z
Thank you Z, I just PMed ddlopes, as he was the last one to get one of these.
All I need to see is what others have used as a live power source (12v) to connect these gauges as I do not want them to power up via OBD. I haven't even opened the speaker cover yet, but I would like to know what and where to splice in before i start.
I must say I like the quality of the gauges and the pod, but i'll have more to say after more use.
I wish I could help, I've never played with the pod. :(
If you haven't got it figured out on Monday PM or email me and I'll get Todd@Aeroforce involved to help.
Thank you Mike, I figured the pod placement part, I may give them a call myself to ask them about hard wiring, and what gauge wire to use if I run the wire to the fuse box and so. Unless someone here that has done it answers the question.
Here is my Aerforce setup. The worse part was running the wire from the OBDII port up thru the dash to the speaker cover. Lots of dash bracing in there, UGH and OUCH.
(http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah244/bamkmm91/DSCF2714_zpsm9wmbrhs.jpg) (http://s1382.photobucket.com/user/bamkmm91/media/DSCF2714_zpsm9wmbrhs.jpg.html)
(http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah244/bamkmm91/DSCF2716_zpsh9dikizo.jpg) (http://s1382.photobucket.com/user/bamkmm91/media/DSCF2716_zpsh9dikizo.jpg.html)
Looks very nice..Did you hard wire yours in bamsho? If not, I'm just curious how long do the gauges stay on after you shut the car off?
They stay on for about 30 sec after you shut the car off, which is nice. They red lights blink some here and there, but nothing that will hurt the car. I love them. I also used some 3M trim tape to, to help hold the pod and gauges in place, just some added insurance.
Does anyone have a list of parameters that do not work with our cars on these gauges? I Selected them all, and the plan is to tune the ones that do not respond out of the system.
I printed out the user manual that is online, they can read a lot.
Quote from: bamsho on September 12, 2015, 09:00:31 AM
Here is my Aerforce setup. The worse part was running the wire from the OBDII port up thru the dash to the speaker cover. Lots of dash bracing in there, UGH and OUCH.
(http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah244/bamkmm91/DSCF2714_zpsm9wmbrhs.jpg) (http://s1382.photobucket.com/user/bamkmm91/media/DSCF2714_zpsm9wmbrhs.jpg.html)
(http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah244/bamkmm91/DSCF2716_zpsh9dikizo.jpg) (http://s1382.photobucket.com/user/bamkmm91/media/DSCF2716_zpsh9dikizo.jpg.html)
Great work Brian!.... But could you straighten the one on the passenger side.... Details, details.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/12/308d8b8f2a3fd836466c57d7f1415fe0.jpg)
I personally like the pods that crash offers which gives the gauges a more custom appeal to it especially when only two gauges are only being used,without the pod it reminds me of an old pair of binoculars,no dis intended. Z
Yeah I have 2 gauges in crashes pod...I really can't tell the difference in dash texture between the car and crashes pod...it's a great piece...gives it a finished look
Quote from: ajpturbo on September 12, 2015, 07:13:15 PM
Yeah I have 2 gauges in crashes pod...I really can't tell the difference in dash texture between the car and crashes pod...it's a great piece...gives it a finished look
I have one too... He uses the OEM dash vinyl and the face is the OEM woven metal (unless you order it black).
I just installed mine last night, and I like them. The reason I picked this setup over crash is because this setup looks more low profile to me.
Big thanks to ddlopes for helping me out. The hardest part was trying to get the cable through the dash. Initially I used a coat hanger and I could not get it to come out on the driver side due to the wire being hard to bend. After talking to ddlopes, he said to use a wire and play with it until it appears, but I realized I needed to use a wire that was softer and easier to bend, and 5 min later, I had the obd cable through the dash(make a note, do not use a coat hanger wire). The wire came out above the gas pedal, and I didn't even need to remove the floor panel that covers the Mid consul. Taped one cable to the wire, and the Second cable about 5 nches lower for the first cable, and just pulled the wire. It's very tight when it Comes to space and I was Concerned that cables may get stuck if I placed all on the same spot, plus that area would not bend and flex as easy through the dash when being pulled up. Hope thIs helps Someone in thE future.
Sorry to open this up but I just got a gauge from a friend and it seems to work for certain perimeters but others just holds what ever number was previous and just doesn't read. Not sure what I have to do in settings. It's CNF401 v3.8 and on a 13 Eco Flex. Maybe I just didn't get it set up right but I'm just confused. Any help would be greatly appreciated or if I have the wrong gauge. Thanks
Just FYI guys, I no longer sell these on my site.
Sorry,
Mike
Quote from: EcoPowerParts on April 05, 2016, 09:54:50 PM
Just FYI guys, I no longer sell these on my site.
Sorry,
Mike
I saw that. I know a couple others were looking. I may have figured out my problem. I am on platform 1 but according to what I found on the f150 forum platform 4 should be the one im supposed to be on. I will have to give it a try when I step out to my car here in a bit. ok, just checked, that's what my problem was. everything reads perfectly now.
Good going, Sabtaj :thumb:
Sabtaj, where did you mount your gauge?
Well.... I haven't found the pod that I want yet that's small. So as of right now I used a "L" bracket with clear gorilla double sided tape. To the back of the gauge and the same method attached to the bezel of the cluster. It will do for now. Red wasn't my first choice. Wanted green to match the snow controller but it was a deal.
(http://i886.photobucket.com/albums/ac68/Sabtaj1/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsi1xdsxq6.jpeg) (http://s886.photobucket.com/user/Sabtaj1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsi1xdsxq6.jpeg.html)
Looks pretty good and it doesn't block any of the gauge info. Nice job.