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Title: Another twin turbo ...
Post by: Capri83RS on July 14, 2016, 03:21:29 PM
I probably can't classify this one as an "EcoBoost", though :P

I ended up selling the '79 Capri I was working on as a roller, initially I planned on selling the 306 and T5 as well.  Trying to get the money together to Coyote swap my '84 Capri RS.  As luck would have it, the day I sold the '79, I was perusing Craigslist, and saw a fox body twin turbo kit.  Listed for $700.  I had to know more.

Come to find out, previous owner had 50-60 miles on the kit with a stock 302, and decided to build a 351w.  His custom ground cam had the wrong firing order setup, and he scored the cylinder walls.  That prompted the selling of everything.

Turbo kit (looks like an ebay special) is a pair of 50-trim wheels, .63 A/R turbine housing, .50 A/R compressor housing, 5-bolt ford housing with internal wastegates.  Came with headers, all cold side piping, couplers, clamps, front mount intercooler, blow off valve, oil feed lines, oil drain lines, and downpipes with O2 sensors.  I also scored an electric water pump, NIB, for $100.

Attached are pictures of all the pieces, and a mockup on the engine with the water pump installed.



Title: Re: Another twin turbo ...
Post by: SHOdded on July 14, 2016, 03:30:10 PM
Moved to the appropriate subforum ... :)

That setup is gonna be quite the topic of conversation at shows, when done!
Title: Re: Another twin turbo ...
Post by: J-Will on July 14, 2016, 04:00:07 PM
wow!  Thats going to use a lot of engine bay space
Title: Re: Another twin turbo ...
Post by: Capri83RS on July 14, 2016, 10:47:25 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on July 14, 2016, 03:30:10 PM
Moved to the appropriate subforum ... :)

That setup is gonna be quite the topic of conversation at shows, when done!

Thanks!  Didn't realize it was in the wrong sub-category until I left work.

Definitely going to be fun.  Most of the turbo fox cars around here are LS-swapped!

Quote from: J-Will on July 14, 2016, 04:00:07 PM
wow!  Thats going to use a lot of engine bay space

It's actually tucked pretty close to the engine.  It does sit tall, not sure if the stock hood will clear it yet.
Title: Re: Another twin turbo ...
Post by: ZSHO on July 14, 2016, 10:57:13 PM
Best of luck Capri...definitely need to verify any clearance issues as mentioned above,sure dont want to be driving around  like this Audi. LOL.  Z  http://www.autoevolution.com/news/audi-rs7-with-externally-mounted-turbos-sounds-insane-looks-satanic-106039.html (http://www.autoevolution.com/news/audi-rs7-with-externally-mounted-turbos-sounds-insane-looks-satanic-106039.html)      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weU5U6nXx8o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weU5U6nXx8o)
Title: Re: Another twin turbo ...
Post by: JCam550 on July 14, 2016, 11:11:20 PM
Quote

Definitely going to be fun.  Most of the turbo fox cars around here are LS-swapped



Oh god!!! Please say it isn't so!!! Blasphemy
Title: Re: Another twin turbo ...
Post by: SHOdded on July 15, 2016, 12:10:18 AM
LS = cheap power in a compact size = irresistible!
Title: Re: Another twin turbo ...
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on July 15, 2016, 01:33:18 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on July 15, 2016, 12:10:18 AM
LS = cheap power in a compact size = irresistible!
I would never treat a ford like that but I would do it to a Porsche...

http://thegarage.jalopnik.com/how-you-can-own-a-reliable-400-hp-porsche-911-for-the-p-1749768518 (http://thegarage.jalopnik.com/how-you-can-own-a-reliable-400-hp-porsche-911-for-the-p-1749768518)
Title: Re: Another twin turbo ...
Post by: Capri83RS on July 15, 2016, 07:39:54 AM
Quote from: ZSHO on July 14, 2016, 10:57:13 PM
Best of luck Capri...definitely need to verify any clearance issues as mentioned above,sure dont want to be driving around  like this Audi. LOL.  Z  http://www.autoevolution.com/news/audi-rs7-with-externally-mounted-turbos-sounds-insane-looks-satanic-106039.html (http://www.autoevolution.com/news/audi-rs7-with-externally-mounted-turbos-sounds-insane-looks-satanic-106039.html)      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weU5U6nXx8o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weU5U6nXx8o)

I've got an extra hood that's had some rust issues, if all else fails, I'll cut some clearance holes in it, so i can still run a hood.  Less weight, means faster, right? :D

Quote from: JCam550 on July 14, 2016, 11:11:20 PM
QuoteDefinitely going to be fun.  Most of the turbo fox cars around here are LS-swapped
Oh god!!! Please say it isn't so!!! Blasphemy

Wish I could, but the 5.3 is extremely cheap, and handles boost really well.  There are three really nice coupes around here with 5.3's and a big single, making well over 800hp.

Quote from: SHOdded on July 15, 2016, 12:10:18 AM
LS = cheap power in a compact size = irresistible!
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Agreed!  I had an LS-swapped 3rd gen Camaro.  That was a fun car.
Title: Re: Another twin turbo ...
Post by: sholxgt on July 15, 2016, 01:42:38 PM
Cool project!

I will be curious to see how the plumbing works.  The outlet locations on those turbo's seems like they will be right into the inner fenders.  Maybe they feed into the factory airbox hole on the passenger side and through a new hole behind the battery on the drivers side?
Title: Re: Another twin turbo ...
Post by: Capri83RS on July 15, 2016, 03:18:01 PM
Quote from: sholxgt on July 15, 2016, 01:42:38 PM
Cool project!

I will be curious to see how the plumbing works.  The outlet locations on those turbo's seems like they will be right into the inner fenders.  Maybe they feed into the factory airbox hole on the passenger side and through a new hole behind the battery on the drivers side?

The drivers side outlet points down-ish, it will route just inside of the framerail.  I played with the passenger side turbo, as it required a 1/2" spacer to clear my tall valve covers on that side.  For some reason, that one is a lot closer to the engine and not angled like the drivers side is.  So I had the turbine and compressor housings off, along with the wastegate housing (which is still off).  It's just mocked up outside of the car, as I still need to pull the pan to weld on the drain bungs, and I'm going to re-degree the cam.  I'll tweak the housings once I get it in the car, but both outlets to the intercooler should pass inside of the frame rails on both sides.

Still need to clean the garage up, so i can pull the car away from the wall, then I need to get the engine bay and door jambs painted, before I can drop the engine back into it.  Plus getting the oil pan modified.
Title: Re: Another twin turbo ...
Post by: Capri83RS on July 15, 2016, 03:26:17 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on July 15, 2016, 01:33:18 AM
I would never treat a ford like that but I would do it to a Porsche...

http://thegarage.jalopnik.com/how-you-can-own-a-reliable-400-hp-porsche-911-for-the-p-1749768518 (http://thegarage.jalopnik.com/how-you-can-own-a-reliable-400-hp-porsche-911-for-the-p-1749768518)

Totally forgot, a buddy of mine down in Texas, finally has a reliable FD3S.  After getting his third Rotary built, he yanked it and sold it, did an LS1/T56 swap into it.  Now it's a 500hp 6spd, that's ultra-reliable.  His best 1/4 mile has been a 11.7 @ 127 mph.  It doesn't launch for crap, LOL.
Title: Re: Another twin turbo ...
Post by: Capri83RS on July 28, 2016, 04:02:14 PM
Picked up some more stuff, Weld Racing pro-stars with slicks, 15x8 and 15x3.5, Flaming River manual rack & pinion with billet shaft, and an old Ford Racing 351w NASCAR style block.

I had family in town the past week, so now I can get down to cleaning up the garage, and get ready to work on the Capri again.
Title: Re: Another twin turbo ...
Post by: SHOdded on July 28, 2016, 04:35:48 PM
Until I saw engine pics, I have to admit I kept hitting the Fast Forward button LOL.  Interruptions gotta happen so you don't burn yourself out!
Title: Re: Another twin turbo ...
Post by: sholxgt on July 28, 2016, 06:15:57 PM
Great score on the block!  Can it be used wet or is that one a dry sump only block?
Title: Re: Another twin turbo ...
Post by: Capri83RS on July 29, 2016, 07:18:52 PM
Quote from: sholxgt on July 28, 2016, 06:15:57 PM
Great score on the block!  Can it be used wet or is that one a dry sump only block?

My understanding is, with machine work, you can turn it into a wet sump block, but I will most likely use it in a dry sump configuration.
Title: Re: Another twin turbo ...
Post by: Capri83RS on July 29, 2016, 07:20:18 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on July 28, 2016, 04:35:48 PM
Until I saw engine pics, I have to admit I kept hitting the Fast Forward button LOL.  Interruptions gotta happen so you don't burn yourself out!

That they do, and it's been over a year since I've seen my side of the family, so it was nice to just take a break and relax.
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