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Title: HELP with H&R install on PI
Post by: 5ohSHO on March 09, 2018, 05:31:06 PM
I'm putting H&R springs on my PI. I got one of the fronts done, but even with the hat tightened down all the way I can still move the spring around by hand. It isn't super loose, but I can spin it with the suspension fully extended. I'm assuming this isn't normal, but I have just as many threads showing on the top nut as the other side with the factory spring. The size difference between old and new is massive with them out of the car. Are the factory PI struts longer than a SHO strut or something?
Title: Re: HELP with H&R install on PI
Post by: ZSHO on March 09, 2018, 06:36:02 PM
The PI and SHO should have the same suspension component's same IIRC!
R U also installing new struts/shocks ?  Z
Once done on a level surface loosen the strut bar and then retighten so there isn't any weird stress on the frame/body.

Here are a couple PDF below.

Front Springs

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8JUL90DXgdiUHN5bXdBanJjNWpuby1UV2Q0N0o3OUQtZmJN/view?usp=sharing

Rear Springs

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tgNQ2sqVEqDm2LwG1TVtPvYDYCSC72D1/view?usp=sharing
Title: Re: HELP with H&R install on PI
Post by: 5ohSHO on March 09, 2018, 06:43:22 PM
I changed the struts and shocks a few months ago. So reusing the ones I have. They aren't Motorcraft shocks and struts though. Rockauto shows the same PN for PI and SHO struts. The spring doesn't move up and down, just able to twist it by hand with no weight on it. I didn't have to compress the H&R to get the hat on either.
Title: Re: HELP with H&R install on PI
Post by: StinkinLinkin13 on March 09, 2018, 06:49:22 PM
Quote from: 5ohSHO on March 09, 2018, 06:43:22 PM
I changed the struts and shocks a few months ago. So reusing the ones I have. They aren't Motorcraft shocks and struts though. Rockauto shows the same PN for PI and SHO struts. The spring doesn't move up and down, just able to twist it by hand with no weight on it. I didn't have to compress the H&R to get the hat on either.

Completely normal. Set it in the pocket and you're good to go. Just did mine a month or so ago. No problems. The weight of the car keeps them in place.
Title: Re: HELP with H&R install on PI
Post by: ZSHO on March 09, 2018, 06:50:37 PM
Quote from: 5ohSHO on March 09, 2018, 06:43:22 PM
I changed the struts and shocks a few months ago. So reusing the ones I have. They aren't Motorcraft shocks and struts though. Rockauto shows the same PN for PI and SHO struts. The spring doesn't move up and down, just able to twist it by hand with no weight on it. I didn't have to compress the H&R to get the hat on either.
I hope there NOT KYB'S!  Z
Title: Re: HELP with H&R install on PI
Post by: StinkinLinkin13 on March 09, 2018, 06:53:30 PM
Rock and roll... 😋
Title: Re: HELP with H&R install on PI
Post by: 5ohSHO on March 09, 2018, 06:55:49 PM
Thanks! I was starting to worry. They aren't KYB brand either.
Title: Re: HELP with H&R install on PI
Post by: StinkinLinkin13 on March 09, 2018, 07:10:51 PM
No problem... Don't forget you'll need these cam bolts to get your rear camber tweaked out.... Front should be ok or close enough. Rear goes negative quite a bit tho.

https://www.amazon.com/Specialty-Products-84130-LINCOLN-CAMBER/dp/B01IPLDDGS (https://www.amazon.com/Specialty-Products-84130-LINCOLN-CAMBER/dp/B01IPLDDGS)
Title: Re: HELP with H&R install on PI
Post by: 5ohSHO on March 09, 2018, 09:46:27 PM
Car is all done except for alignment. The kit I got came with rear camber bolts. Thanks again. I'll put up some pics when the alignment is done.
Title: Re: HELP with H&R install on PI
Post by: 5ohSHO on March 09, 2018, 09:50:05 PM
Something I did notice is that the rear springs had a tag on them that would imply they are just for the PI. It had "DPOL AWD" on it.
Title: Re: HELP with H&R install on PI
Post by: StinkinLinkin13 on March 09, 2018, 11:50:24 PM
Nice. Where did you find this kit?
Title: Re: HELP with H&R install on PI
Post by: 5ohSHO on March 10, 2018, 12:16:10 AM
Livernois.
Title: Re: HELP with H&R install on PI
Post by: 5ohSHO on March 11, 2018, 07:45:27 PM
As promised. Pics.
Title: Re: HELP with H&R install on PI
Post by: 5ohSHO on March 12, 2018, 09:20:15 PM
Aaaaand discovered some driveways I have to avoid now.
Title: Re: HELP with H&R install on PI
Post by: derfdog15 on March 12, 2018, 10:15:49 PM
Quote from: 5ohSHO on March 12, 2018, 09:20:15 PM
Aaaaand discovered some driveways I have to avoid now.

Literally the reason I never lowered my SHO. I have a lowered 03 mustang and its a pain depending where I need to go, so I didnt want that with the SHO. Decided to keep my dailies stock height from now on so I can go anywhere with em.
Title: Re: HELP with H&R install on PI
Post by: 5ohSHO on March 12, 2018, 10:22:40 PM
I was honestly expecting what happened on the driveway in question, but it was kind of an experiment just to see. I'm overall happy with the way it rides and looks now and I don't regret it..... yet.
Title: Re: HELP with H&R install on PI
Post by: StinkinLinkin13 on March 13, 2018, 12:18:10 AM
Haha... It's worth it if you ask this guy. It really doesn't seem all that low to me. I think its the ride height the car should have been stock. When I load up the fam tho I set suspension to comfort and mostly only have issues with some of the more insane speed bumps in the city and parking lots.. otherwise no complaints.
Title: Re: HELP with H&R install on PI
Post by: lamrith on March 14, 2018, 12:34:19 AM
Quote from: derfdog15 on March 12, 2018, 10:15:49 PM
Quote from: 5ohSHO on March 12, 2018, 09:20:15 PM
Aaaaand discovered some driveways I have to avoid now.

Literally the reason I never lowered my SHO. I have a lowered 03 mustang and its a pain depending where I need to go, so I didnt want that with the SHO. Decided to keep my dailies stock height from now on so I can go anywhere with em.
Wish there was an Air-ride option, then could have the best of both worlds.
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