It's a 2014 PP sho. Bought with 38k mikes. Car came with LMS tune, plugs, stat, MAP, and resonator delete. Very clean. Very well kept. The idea is to make the perfect police interceptor out of a SHO. The ultimate sleeper status.
In addition to the tune, I just dropped in the k&n filter and H&R springs. The H&Rs are supper noisy. So this morning I ordered BC coilovers. LMS Alky kit and OBX catless DPs should also be here next week.
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Got a call yesterday that the BC coilovers are being built-to-order. So ive got a 2-3 week wait time. Guess Ill start doing research into a push bar and PI wheels. DPs and meth should be here by the end of the week.
Why the push bar?
You're negating your efforts by adding all that weight on. Big Bertha's heavy enough.
Not all PI's have that. In fact, a lot don't.
Save the money. Save the effort. Most of all, SAVE THE WEIGHT!
Invest your hard earned Benjamin's elsewhere.
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Agree with BPD, A sleeper is just that, Keep it sleeping C:-)
Because this is going to be a bug-out range/training vehicle. Im not too concerned about the weight. Also planning a trunk vault for the SBR and gear. Never know when youre going to have to push a bunch of zombies or a car out of the way. I know its heavy. I know it will increase chances of frame damage from collision. But if I can fit it in my garage, I want one. Im willing to bet the trunk vault weighs about the same or more than the push bar.
FYI- The bottom grill insert needs to be removed in order for the push-bars to fit and align properly. Z
http://www.swps.com/5039.html (http://www.swps.com/5039.html)
https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,6867.msg105795.html#msg105795 (https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,6867.msg105795.html#msg105795)
So thinking about Weight 4343 LBS for the 2013 SHO
Base Sedan or PI....? 3969 LBS.....? 400 LBS More
am I close on this...?
Quote from: irondoor19 on October 25, 2017, 12:34:20 PM
So thinking about Weight 4343 LBS for the 2013 SHO
Base Sedan or PI....? 3969 LBS.....? 400 LBS More
am I close on this...?
I'll scope out the placard on one of our agency's PI's later on tonight, and report back.
Assuming it's not busy dealing with the upstanding types of society that is.
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Quote from: bpd1151 on October 25, 2017, 12:50:26 PM
Quote from: irondoor19 on October 25, 2017, 12:34:20 PM
So thinking about Weight 4343 LBS for the 2013 SHO
Base Sedan or PI....? 3969 LBS.....? 400 LBS More
am I close on this...?
I'll scope out the placard on one of our agency's PI's later on tonight, and report back.
Assuming it's not busy dealing with the upstanding types of society that is.
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Trying to read the data Plate on mine: i get GVW only, of course
my eyes are not very good in dark dimly lit places (like Bars/speakeasys)
GVWR shows 5,700 lbs.
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HEAVY!!!
Quote from: bpd1151 on October 25, 2017, 07:09:18 PM
GVWR shows 5,700 lbs.
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Yea: that includes the 950 LB Max load so 4750 LBS Max...? got to be Wrong as far as
the car Weight Goes. Will Find a Scale some Where., any Ford Info Out there on the PI...?
I'm now on the hunt for a PI front bumper. Want to see if I can find one in a salvage yard. I thought about buying a new front bumper. But I still need all the grills and trim pieces. So if anyone sees one, let me know. Would pick up 5 PI wheels too. Just don't want to buy new.
Quote from: GIGANTORE on October 26, 2017, 09:36:15 PM
I'm now on the hunt for a PI front bumper. Want to see if I can find one in a salvage yard. I thought about buying a new front bumper. But I still need all the grills and trim pieces. So if anyone sees one, let me know. Would pick up 5 PI wheels too. Just don't want to buy new.
I need them 2, And then will have a Spare Grill and Bumper Cover (white, Damaged, by repairable),
have been on the hunt, But not an easy thing to find (for a reasonable Price)
Just called SW and ordered the o2 harness extension. The part number is 109214R but it is specific to 2011-2017. Will be trying to schedule DP install for this weekend.
Some progress to report. Got the o2 harness extension yesterday. Going to be doing the DP install this saturday. I also found a set of 4 PI wheels with chrome center caps on ebay. Its going to be $500 shipped. Which is pretty good if they are in good shape. Still havent installed the Alky kit. Kinda hesitant until I get a good feel for the process. BC coilovers will be here tomorrow and will be installed next weekend.
$125/wheel shipped seems like a decent deal. Not fully up on pricing, but PI wheels I have seen were always spendy.
Look forward to seeing her and hearing after modification reports!
Quote from: lamrith on November 09, 2017, 01:50:53 PM
$125/wheel shipped seems like a decent deal. Not fully up on pricing, but PI wheels I have seen were always spendy.
Look forward to seeing her and hearing after modification reports!
Yeah, they are about 180-200 new without the caps. Caps are expensive. Winter is the time of year that they are the most popular. It can make them hard to find.
So today is the day for the DP install. Managed to take delivery of the BC coilovers yesterday without the wife knowing. Haven't opened the box yet. I'll post a few pics of them later this afternoon.
Im going to tell her, Unless U give me a Bribe ;D
Reminds me of the time my Wife showed up @ Work
looking around for my other Toys, hidden behing door No 2... HA
Quote from: irondoor19 on November 11, 2017, 11:27:20 AM
Im going to tell her, Unless U give me a Bribe ;D
Reminds me of the time my Wife showed up @ Work
looking around for my other Toys, hidden behing door No 2... HA
As long as she doesn't ask what my guns cost to build.
I'm sitting at the shop now. News isn't good. Here's my email to the seller of the OBX DPs. Should tell you all you need to know..
"The o2 sensor for the front down pipe is in the wrong location. It can't be mounted there without the sensor hitting the oil cooler. So my installer is going to have to plug that sensor location and weld in another bung in the correct spot. Also, the 2 down pipes make contact with each other. So the installer is going to have to do more work to clearance the 2. The cost of your short cuts wasn't worth the savings over a quality brand. Not happy. "
Quote from: GIGANTORE on November 11, 2017, 11:53:58 AM
Quote from: irondoor19 on November 11, 2017, 11:27:20 AM
Im going to tell her, Unless U give me a Bribe ;D
Reminds me of the time my Wife showed up @ Work
looking around for my other Toys, hidden behing door No 2... HA
As long as she doesn't ask what my guns cost to build.
I'm sitting at the shop now. News isn't good. Here's my email to the seller of the OBX DPs. Should tell you all you need to know..
"The o2 sensor for the front down pipe is in the wrong location. It can't be mounted there without the sensor hitting the oil cooler. So my installer is going to have to plug that sensor location and weld in another bung in the correct spot. Also, the 2 down pipes make contact with each other. So the installer is going to have to do more work to clearance the 2. The cost of your short cuts wasn't worth the savings over a quality brand. Not happy. "
Bummer! Both of these issues were documented in the other thread on OBX downpipes. Difference being you're the first once to install them on a car with the additional auxilary coolers for PTU and oil so the OBX sensor location interferes with those components.
best of luck with the rest of the install and please update with pics and feedback.
Quote from: Colorado-SHOBro on November 11, 2017, 12:25:15 PM
Bummer! Both of these issues were documented in the other thread on OBX downpipes. Difference being you're the first once to install them on a car with the additional auxilary coolers for PTU and oil so the OBX sensor location interferes with those components.
best of luck with the rest of the install and please update with pics and feedback.
Yeah. Not a huge deal. Just cost twice as much to install. Sounds pretty good. I do hear what sounds like it could be an exhaust leak under full boost though. The power difference is noticeable. But no huge. Seems to spool a little quicker. And there's a little more power up top. So far I'd rate the OBX catless a 3 out of 5 stars.
- supplied gaskets, crap.
- need to bend/hammer pipe so they don't hit.
- o2 sensor clocked wrong (primary). And sensor hits oil cooler if equipped.
An hour install took 2.5hr
Considering what my guy had to work with, I think we did pretty well.
https://imgur.com/a/dnQa1
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This pic gives you a good idea of where the o2 sensor bung is from OBX, in relation to where it should have been mounted. Not a huge deal. But definitely so something that has to be addressed.
As you can see in the pic, the sensor is pointing more towards th the fan. But there is plenty of room.
https://i.imgur.com/Kn4Uq1r.jpg
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Purolator oil filter?
Quote from: SHOdded on November 11, 2017, 08:41:15 PM
Purolator oil filter?
Looks like it. Going to do all the fluids soon.
Since the DP install I've noticed what sounds like an exhaust leak under full boost. Making that typical rattling sound of exhaust leaking past a worn out gasket. Guess I'm going to have to track down part numbers for gaskets.
Sometimes the pipes don't sit quite tightly in place. Nothing the matter with the gaskets, but you may need to DOUBLE gasket. Plus the bolts typically have to be re-tightened a few days after install, and then are ok from then on.
https://parts.levittownfordparts.com/auto-parts/2014/ford/taurus/sho-trim/3-5l-v6-gas-engine/exhaust-system-cat/exhaust-components-scat
I believe you need the #6 part
6 AA5Z-6L612-A Catalytic Converter Gasket
Flex Tube Gasket, RIGHT
3.5 W/ TURBO
$11.75 $8.11
Quote from: SHOdded on November 11, 2017, 11:11:47 PM
Sometimes the pipes don't sit quite tightly in place. Nothing the matter with the gaskets, but you may need to DOUBLE gasket. Plus the bolts typically have to be re-tightened a few days after install, and then are ok from then on.
https://parts.levittownfordparts.com/auto-parts/2014/ford/taurus/sho-trim/3-5l-v6-gas-engine/exhaust-system-cat/exhaust-components-scat
I believe you need the #6 part
6 AA5Z-6L612-A Catalytic Converter Gasket
Flex Tube Gasket, RIGHT
3.5 W/ TURBO
$11.75 $8.11
I don't think it's number 6. It looks like that area is one piece with the obx. I could be wrong. Almost looks like it would be number 8?
Could be, you can find pics of the parts on ebay usually, easier to tell that way.
Im not here to discredit the installer but would confirm,verify that its not leaking from the (welds) where the welding was performed for the original 02 bung location.
FYI its a 3- Hole Gasket.
AA5Z6L612A
https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,exhaust+&+emission,pipe+flange+gasket+/+seal,5836 (https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,exhaust+&+emission,pipe+flange+gasket+/+seal,5836)
I plan to take it back to my exhaust guy. I'll let him find the leak.
I ordered 2 new exhaust gaskets. The leak has gotten worse. It's pretty obnoxious now.
Headed to my buddies house for the BC coilover install this weekend. Also have a possible wheel trade on the same day. Owner has 5 PI wheels. Would be nice to have a spare. I'm getting close to my initial build goals. Just gotta get the meth kit installed. Pretty sure I'm going to take it to Julio.
good luck on all counts!
Quote from: SHOdded on November 15, 2017, 05:57:07 AM
good luck on all counts!
Thanks, Its going to be a transformation weekend. Ill post pics when I get them.
Trying to figure out where to mount this damn train horn..
Big things today. Did the coilovers. They went in easy. No issues at all. These BC coilovers are REALLY NICE! Beautiful up close! Definitely a step up from the last set of Megan's I had. I couldn't be happier about the ride quality. Less body roll. Stiffer in the corners but still comfortable over the bumps.
The wheel swap was kinda shitty. All 5 tires are trashed. So I'll have to replace all of them. The ones that aren't worn past the wear bars are dry rotted to hell. And the passengers side wheel has a noticeable bend. So I'm going to send them out to be bent back into shape and powder coated. A few rust spots and curbage on all of them. The other guy definitely got the better end of the deal. I was prepared to ask him to throw cash on top. But then I noticed he had the OEM PI sliding rifle rack in the trunk. So I asked him if he would throw it in on the deal. Got it!! Now I've got a place to mount the suppressed SBR!
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I'll get some better pics later.
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I must say they look really Good! Glad everything went smooth,without a hitch. enjoy. Z :thumb:
Btw fixed a couple of pics for ya. :)
Quote from: ZSHO on November 18, 2017, 07:51:47 PM
I must say they look really Good! Glad everything went smooth,without a hitch. enjoy. Z :thumb:
Btw fixed a couple of pics for ya. :)
Thanks. I tried to fix the rest with the same method you did. Got all but 2 it looks like. I appreciate the help. Not sure why the other 2 don't come through.
Quote from: GIGANTORE on November 18, 2017, 08:33:19 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on November 18, 2017, 07:51:47 PM
I must say they look really Good! Glad everything went smooth,without a hitch. enjoy. Z :thumb:
Btw fixed a couple of pics for ya. :)
Thanks. I tried to fix the rest with the same method you did. Got all but 2 it looks like. I appreciate the help. Not sure why the other 2 don't come through.
How many pics do you have? The problem is the format is to large!. LMK . Z
Yeah, the last one and the 5th from the bottom don't seem to be working. But I copied the same format you did and added it to the other links. Not sure what I missed.
Quote from: GIGANTORE on November 18, 2017, 09:24:32 PM
Yeah, the last one and the 5th from the bottom don't seem to be working. But I copied the same format you did and added it to the other links. Not sure what I missed.
How many pics did you originally have? Z
I think 13..?
The new look is working good in the garage.
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Don't know why it doesn't work when I post pics..
What happens when you post pics, GIGANTORE? Are you posting from a desktop or iPhone or Android ...? From gallery, I presume? Are you using Tapatalk? Let's see if we can figure this out!
While on IMGUR make sure to copy the BBCode (message boards & forums) and then while on the Forum insert image paste it on the forum. Z
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Let me see if I have better luck going through tapatalk..
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Success!!!
A few things I found interesting during this weekends projects.
- the wheel swap went without a singal TPMS error for either car. Just a straight wheel swap. I thought that was odd, but I'll take it.
- the length of the long catless pipe in the obx kit vibrates under hard boost. Turns out I don't have any exhaust leaks. Just a long run of pipe that rattles under boost.
- catless DPs, resonator delete, stock mufflers is a very tame combo. Absolutely ZERO drone highway or otherwise. Which I'm very happy to report.
-the BC coilovers are supper comfortable. Very firm but tame city driving. I didn't get a chance to push it in the corners at all. None of my tires would survive any moderately aggressive driving.
maybe cushion the OBX pipe some more, hopefully not a weld issue. otherwise, sounds quite peachy!
Yeah, things are falling into place. The longer of the 2 pipes is just vibrating. Which is kinda common with catless DPs. Im probably just going to weld a bracket from one DP to the other. A gusset should help reduce the vibrations. Im interested to hear if anyone else reports the issue and what they do about it.
Dropped the car off for 5 new tires and an alignment.
Also picked up the last piece of the puzzle for the PI transformation.
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Damn these vents are expensive
Nice, rolling right along!
Time for an update. Still have a rattling sound from the down pipe vibrating under hard acceleration. It's actually gotten worse. And the popping sounds of the coilovers have gotten worse. Think I just need to retorque everything. Looks great though. Had an older guy pull up next to me at a light in one of the newer Lexus convertibles. He tried to keep up with me as we took the previous turn. He was blown away by how quick the sho was. "WOW! Nice to see a 4 door ford with some balls!" Thought it was pretty funny.
Can you isolate the rattling to the joints of the DPs? Retorquing the bolts and/or doublegasketing may be the answer.
Pretty sure it's just the harmonics of the longer DP. I'm going to start with zip tying them together with a large heavy duty zip tie. If that works at lessening the noise, my theory is correct. And I'll weld a simple brace between the 2 pipes. I don't think the noise is gasket related.
Took off the charge pipe and cleaned it with carb cleaner. Ran the epoxy around the seems of both DV ports. It looks like the 2 DV inlet clamps were what was actually leaking. I replaced the 2 pressure clamps with worm clamps. I also took the opportunity to clean the throttle body.
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Let's hope that is the last of the leak issues :)
Went to my exhaust shop to make a brace for the down pipes. It did help. But the rattle isn't gone completely. I'm gonna go back to him and do one more in a different spot.
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I did find a trans leak though. And it looks pretty bad. I believe this is the output shaft seal. Located on the passengers side of the car.
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(Sorry that pic isn't clearer. Didn't realize it was out of focus)
Quote from: GIGANTORE on December 16, 2017, 03:44:41 PM
Went to my exhaust shop to make a brace for the down pipes. It did help. But the rattle isn't gone completely. I'm gonna go back to him and do one more in a different spot.
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I did find a trans leak though. And it looks pretty bad. I believe this is the output shaft seal. Located on the passengers side of the car.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171216/c233f861fc788d1c59acc23b0dabfea2.jpg)
(Sorry that pic isn't clearer. Didn't realize it was out of focus)
I had the same seal replaced under warranty @ roughly 30K!
I also had the TRANS Fluids changed @ the same time. Z
About 2 hrs book time for the seal IIRC.
I'm hoping that this seal is still under warranty. My car hasn't hit 40k miles yet. Isn't factory power train warranty 40k miles or 4 years?
Quote from: GIGANTORE on December 16, 2017, 06:51:59 PM
I'm hoping that this seal is still under warranty. My car hasn't hit 40k miles yet. Isn't factory power train warranty 40k miles or 4 years?
I think it's 5/60...
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on December 16, 2017, 09:18:12 PM
Quote from: GIGANTORE on December 16, 2017, 06:51:59 PM
I'm hoping that this seal is still under warranty. My car hasn't hit 40k miles yet. Isn't factory power train warranty 40k miles or 4 years?
I think it's 5/60...
Man, I sure hope so.
I see some mean drip marks on those DP pipes, is that from your trans leak it looks too far away....
Quote from: avidmotion on December 18, 2017, 10:05:03 PM
I see some mean drip marks on those DP pipes, is that from your trans leak it looks too far away....
Yup. That is trans fluid
Looks like I'll be using the sho as an Uber vehicle. Just got approval from Uber and Lyft.
Quote from: GIGANTORE on December 19, 2017, 10:51:59 PM
Looks like I'll be using the sho as an Uber vehicle. Just got approval from Uber and Lyft.
Why in God's name would you subject your SHO to that??
Seems counterproductive. **SMH**
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Quote from: GIGANTORE on December 19, 2017, 10:51:59 PM
Looks like I'll be using the sho as an Uber vehicle. Just got approval from Uber and Lyft.
Dont they pay Crap nowadays? Dont you have to have different car insurance too ?
I have no clue just stating what I heard the other day. I am retired and thought about it but people around me. Berks County Pa are too cheap.
It seems that the PI -Meth Sleeper has come to a standing halt!
Best of luck on your new venture. Z
Quote from: bpd1151 on December 19, 2017, 11:26:02 PM
Quote from: GIGANTORE on December 19, 2017, 10:51:59 PM
Looks like I'll be using the sho as an Uber vehicle. Just got approval from Uber and Lyft.
Why in God's name would you subject your SHO to that??
Seems counterproductive. **SMH**
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I was laid off a week ago. Still thinking about renting a car to Uber.
Sorry to hear, guy :( Hope your financial situation improves very soon!
That's unfortunate. More so than ever, at this time of the year to boot.
That said, do what you must. Sorry to hear. Hopefully better days lie ahead.
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Sorry too hear my friend! Hopefully 2018 brings some better news full of Prosperity! In the meantime keep your chin up! Z
I was laid off a week ago. Still thinking about renting a car to Uber.
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Sorry to hear that man. My company just shut the doors on an entire office the Philly area. I couldn't believe they just let that many people go right before Christmas. I honestly started looking for a new place to work because of it. I can't work for a CEO with no heart. Unfortunately, seems like that is becoming difficult to find.
I have seen a trend towards xmas layoffs in recent years, and without warning. It is difficult because of the season itself, but much more so because at this time, usually no one is hiring or available to respond to your queries. If your financial pantry is not well stocked (6 mo min, I would say 1 year pragmatically), you could find yourself in deep trouble. God forbid you have any serious health issues and have to sign up for Obamacare. Dont forget you have to repay those premiums at tax time once you do get a job.
Quote from: GIGANTORE on December 20, 2017, 07:43:34 AM
Quote from: bpd1151 on December 19, 2017, 11:26:02 PM
Quote from: GIGANTORE on December 19, 2017, 10:51:59 PM
Looks like I'll be using the sho as an Uber vehicle. Just got approval from Uber and Lyft.
Why in God's name would you subject your SHO to that??
Seems counterproductive. **SMH**
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I was laid off a week ago. Still thinking about renting a car to Uber.
I would suggest pizza delivery...
Depending on where you are you can make better money per hour with less wear and tear. There are also good companies out there that offer some pretty good benefits as well.
I wouldn't deliver pizza. Did that my first year of enlistment as a side job. Never again. I'm working part time for a buddy thats a contractor. The bad part is that I was only at the job for 6 months. Was growing their business and getting them ins with great business relationships. Everything in their pipeline was created by me. So I had a LOT of commission coming my way. 2 months after an awesome review (recorded on my phone), I get my pay restructered and ZERO commission in new plan. 2 weeks later, s***-canned because I'm "not a good fit". What happened to my rave review 2 months ago? Since the only reason from them was "not a good fit", I'm left to draw my own conclusion.
I had created enough for them, that they didn't need me.
It's s*** like this that makes people bitter.
Don't think I didn't kick the door off the hinges on the way out.
Merry Christmas, everyone! Had the mobile Detailer come by the house to wash the monster.
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Looks like he had to leave in a hurry, LOL! Great pic, btw.
I just saw a real police interceptor pull someone over today. I'd never seen one in black before, only the white ones. Holy crap it looked good in black.
Quote from: SHOdded on December 24, 2017, 06:27:21 PM
Looks like he had to leave in a hurry, LOL! Great pic, btw.
He was actually in the shot. I cropped him out.
Quote from: Agentlongwood on December 24, 2017, 07:26:43 PM
I just saw a real police interceptor pull someone over today. I'd never seen one in black before, only the white ones. Holy crap it looked good in black.
They look even better with a lower stance. The guy that I took it to for an alignment thought it was a PI car with a body kit.
Dropped the car off at Ford on Tuesday to do the driveshaft seal (passengers side) leak. Just got a call today saying that it would be fixed under warranty. The guy said he would have it fixed under warranty THIS TIME. And he said that this was caused by having catless down pipes. Which is impossible since the leak was there before the down pipes. He said the heat cooked the seal. I'm calling bullshit. For safe measure, I'll wrap that one pipe with some lava wrap. I found it interesting that he was acting like he's the one that makes the decision at Ford. I had to bite my tongue on the phone. If he repeats any of his nonsense when I go to pick up the car, I'll likely chew him a new ass.
Quote from: GIGANTORE on December 29, 2017, 06:07:33 PM
Dropped the car off at Ford on Tuesday to do the driveshaft seal (passengers side) leak. Just got a call today saying that it would be fixed under warranty. The guy said he would have it fixed under warranty THIS TIME. And he said that this was caused by having catless down pipes. Which is impossible since the leak was there before the down pipes. He said the heat cooked the seal. I'm calling bull**** For safe measure, I'll wrap that one pipe with some lava wrap. I found it interesting that he was acting like he's the one that makes the decision at Ford. I had to bite my tongue on the phone. If he repeats any of his nonsense when I go to pick up the car, I'll likely chew him a new ass.
I would not take it personal IMO!
The main issue its being covered under warranty! Z :)
It was the service advisor I was talking to. Just annoying to have someone talking out of their ass and being arrogant. I'm pretty easy to get along with.
Quote from: GIGANTORE on December 29, 2017, 06:36:21 PM
It was the service advisor I was talking to. Just annoying to have someone talking out of their ass and being arrogant. I'm pretty easy to get along with.
Yeah people like that kill me lol...In fact I try and not talk to those people at all costs....I usually go out of my way to tell them that I prefer to talk to mechanics because we can understand eachother better and someone that doesn't turn wrenches usually speaks in a language that is meant for people that don't turn wrenches.
I understand being dedicated to your job and doing well by the people you work for but more often than not the people that act like that forget that it's not their money and when they take it upon themselves to play corporate bean counter all they are doing is stealing work from the mechanics
Quote from: GIGANTORE on December 29, 2017, 06:36:21 PM
It was the service advisor I was talking to. Just annoying to have someone talking out of their ass and being arrogant. I'm pretty easy to get along with.
I have had my fair share of arguments in the past,but learned to digress and move on! especially taking advice from ignorant service advisors with hands as soft as a baby's bottom! LOL. Z
Yup. I was a tech for a while. A lot of times service guys would lose sight of the fact that they were killing business. They let their ego drive them to make business decisions that they don't get paid for. And certainly aren't qualified to make.
Quote from: GIGANTORE on December 29, 2017, 07:35:19 PM
Yup. I was a tech for a while. A lot of times service guys would lose sight of the fact that they were killing business. They let their ego drive them to make business decisions that they don't get paid for. And certainly aren't qualified to make.
A few years back my wife hit something laying on the road with her '12 Traverse. Long story short it developed an exhaust leak and had a weird vibration which turned out to be a motor mount. I thought it was the exhaust system pushed into something that was causing the vibration. So I told the service guy at the Chevy stealership in the town I was working in at the time to get me a quote to fix the flex joint on one bank of the motor. $1,200+. $800 some for the entire exhaust assembly plus labor. I looked at the guy and asked him why he couldn't just weld in a new flex joint instead of replacing the entire exhaust system. He scoffed at me and rolled his eyes like that was the stupidest thing he had ever heard. Tried to imply that it would never fly in this day and age with newer hi-tech vehicles. Now I don't expect the dealership to do something like this for me but instead of trying to bullshit me he could have just told me yes I could do that but they don't do that type of work and possibly even recommended a place to take it. How gullible do they think people are? All he did is lose a customer for life. First and last time I darkened their doorway. I'll never take anything there for any reason.
thats funny, when my flex coupler was freyed on my SHO the service advisor said I should just take it to an exhaust shop and have them weld one in for me lol
Quote from: jbeez on December 29, 2017, 09:27:16 PM
thats funny, when my flex coupler was freyed on my SHO the service advisor said I should just take it to an exhaust shop and have them weld one in for me lol
Typical
Okay, so the next mini project is in the planning stages. And I might get some negative feedback for this one. As many of you know, the BC coilovers have full caster and camber adjustment on the top. Unfortunately, you can't get to the top of the mount to make adjustments. Because there's no access from the top side, under the hood. Just a small hole that allows you to see the top adjustment nut on the strut (but the angle won't let you get a wrench or socket on it). So, I've decided to go full-retard. I'm going to take a hole saw to the top of the mount. Planning on using a 3" hole saw to open up that area. This will allow me to make fine tune adjustments. I should be able to clean it up so that it doesn't look like anything was done. And since this hole will be within the 4 upper mounting bolts, it shouldn't present any structural issues.
So after a few days of being told I would get a call back, attitude, giving me crap about the catless downpipes, 3 times with no returned calls (as promised), I decided to drop in. It took them 3 days just to replace the clips in the lower splash guard. I called this morning to get an update (10:30am). I just wanted them to replace the clips. "Oh, yeah I've been busy with people in front of me all morning. I'll call you right back." So imagine my surprise when I show up at the dealership in my Uber 3hrs later. To find this dude kicking back, talking football, like he doesn't have someone waiting for his returned call. He didn't recognize me at first. I mention the SHO and he suddenly gets motivated. He leaves me standing there while he goes to Check on my car. "We do have those clips now. Your car will be ready sometime this afterfternoon." Which is when I kinda lost my s***. Told him to bring out the car and his service manager. Gave his manager detailed play by play, with the service advisor standing there. I was given a loaner so that they could take a look at the rusted crash bar. They gave me a 16 Edge sport.
Bloody hell. Right of you to take 'em to task,
Here In N.Y we Hang their balls out to Dry!!!!!!. Z
Had a some time today to prep for the next little project.
Started with the old school gasket making method of hammering cardboard over the strut bolts. Then I used the cardboard as a template and transferred it to wood. Now I can simply drop the strut, bolt the template down to the top of the mount, and cut a nice 3" hole. Should give me all the access I need to the top strut.
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Today was a good day. Drove to my buddies place to try to find the source of the popping noise coming from the drivers side coilover (or so I thought). After having 2 different shops I deal with, try to find the source of the noise, my buddy finds it in 10min. As it turns out, the subframe bolt near the drivers side coilover was just loose enough to cause the bolt to shift back and fourth. Managed to get a 1/4 turn on the bolt and the noise is gone! Huge win for the day! I also managed to get some longer adjusters for the rear shocks. So now all I have to do is drop the rear seats to adjust firmness. The adjusters that came with the set were only a couple inches long. These are about 10" long. Just long enough to poke out through the trim.
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Next thing in the list is to wrap the down pipes..
Ooooo nice!
Haven't posted much lately. Was rear ended by a Tesla suv a little over 2 weeks ago. Hoping to get the car back any day now.
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Quote from: GIGANTORE on March 27, 2018, 12:26:38 PM
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Unfortunate but that is probably the best spot to be hit on the trunk. Just a trunk replacement and no new lights etc. However, if yours is tuxedo the paint is a pain to get right and could take a little bit. If they don't require a core, I would ask to keep your stock trunk (because if we were 10 or 15 years earlier they would just fix your stock trunk, and its definitely something that could be fixed, just not worth the time to fix now a days). They will want to get new trim, please stress NEW TRIM, because the trim does not like being removed and reinstalled.
PDR is probably not an option with this :( Hope the taillights stay lined up with the new trunklid!
They are having a hell of a time lining things back up. They are trying to tell me it has been hit before. But I don't buy it. Going to look at it today.
Quote from: SHOdded on March 27, 2018, 03:29:09 PM
PDR is probably not an option with this :( Hope the taillights stay lined up with the new trunklid!
Can't PDR it for sure, but the dent itself could be put back to flush if someone took there time with it. Given that a trunklid for these cars costs a LOT of money for a trunk, at the current time, I would keep it if I could and spend some time to get it right to have a spare. Though since they aren't SHO specific, you may be able to get lucky and find one at a junkyard on a taxi or other regular taurus.
That said, self painting a tuxedo black body panel, hell no, that scares me quite a bit. A step below mystichrome in cost and difficulty but definitely a pain.
Quote from: GIGANTORE on March 27, 2018, 04:06:24 PM
They are having a hell of a time lining things back up. They are trying to tell me it has been hit before. But I don't buy it. Going to look at it today.
If the hit was at the right angle, it could have tweaked the frame in the rear. However, I would bet on the shop needing to take more time to get it lined up.
Just went to take a look at it. Dude about fell over when he saw me pull out a roll of tape and start marking all the flaws in the paint. The tail lights look better but aren't perfect. I told them they need to keep trying. They are trying to tell me that they THINK it's been hit before. Only because they found a shim in the bumper. Explained to them that manufacturers do it all the time. Was nice to see the car all cleaned up though.
Ha. next time take a paint gauge with you and point out their bondo work.
Hey guys. Checking in. Been too busy to get anything done on the car. Still battling with Allstate to get the car fixed correctly.
I'm also still having issues with popping noises. I need to track down the part number for the subframe bolts in the front. I think they might be stretched to the point where they need to be replaced. Anyone have the part number for subframe bolts? Also need to tq specs if I can find them.
Last things I need to complete this build.
- Square away suspension noise/popping.
- Wrap down pipes.
- Install meth kit
- low profile 6x9's
- Coat and install roll out rifle rack in trunk.
Spent some time searching for subframe bolts. I was only able to find ones for the previous gen. And I don't think they can be substituted. Gonna call ford tomorrow.
Ford -W710714-S439
Bolt
M14 X 155MM , Crossmember
Require Quantity: 2
Package Quantity: 2
Base Number: HB1
Callout Name: HB1
$15.25 $8.85
Ford -W714157-S439
Bolt
M14 x 120 , Crossmember
Require Quantity: 2
Package Quantity: 4
Base Number: HB1
Callout Name: HB2
$4.25 $2.47
https://www.fordpartsgiant.com/parts-list/2014-ford-taurus/front-susp-arms-stabilizer-x-member.html?Filter=(38591;30734;43021;28765) (https://www.fordpartsgiant.com/parts-list/2014-ford-taurus/front-susp-arms-stabilizer-x-member.html?Filter=(38591;30734;43021;28765))
Quote from: SHOdded on June 06, 2018, 12:24:36 AM
Ford -W710714-S439
Bolt
M14 X 155MM , Crossmember
Require Quantity: 2
Package Quantity: 2
Base Number: HB1
Callout Name: HB1
$15.25 $8.85
Ford -W714157-S439
Bolt
M14 x 120 , Crossmember
Require Quantity: 2
Package Quantity: 4
Base Number: HB1
Callout Name: HB2
$4.25 $2.47
https://www.fordpartsgiant.com/parts-list/2014-ford-taurus/front-susp-arms-stabilizer-x-member.html?Filter=(38591;30734;43021;28765) (https://www.fordpartsgiant.com/parts-list/2014-ford-taurus/front-susp-arms-stabilizer-x-member.html?Filter=(38591;30734;43021;28765))
Awesome. Thanks man. Looks like they are the same, front and rear.
Yeah, cant tell which one applies to you :(. But each pkt comes with 4 and is inexpensive, so i would get both and return what was not opened.
Just ordered front and back. Looks like
W714157-S439 Is for fronts
W710714-S439 Is for the rears
Now I just need to find the tq specs. Have a feeling I'm experiencing this due to the bolts being over torqued.
Hope this helps ...