where is everyone at with their temps I just did a trans drain and added 7qrts of AmsOil trans fluid to me it seems to get hot fast. I was Data logging to day and it was up to 220 after 3 hard pulls it cooled back down after driving it down to high 190's. Just wanted to see where you guys are Thanks
Quote from: DerricksSho on October 03, 2017, 11:43:52 PM
where is everyone at with their temps I just did a trans drain and added 7qrts of AmsOil trans fluid to me it seems to get hot fast. I was Data logging to day and it was up to 220 after 3 hard pulls it cooled back down after driving it down to high 190's. Just wanted to see where you guys are Thanks
I used to see 200+ pretty regularly with normal driving when ambient temps were high. I ended up swapping the trans by-pass valve thermostat to the PP version and it helped quite a bit. will usually run in the 190's now. I later added the aux cooler unit but found it to make little difference.
Read up on these threads for reference
http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,6585 (http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,6585)
https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,5389.0.html (https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,5389.0.html)
Need to do at least 1 more drain/fill to see benefit from the Amsoil fluid. I am surprised tho you got 7 quarts out. Most people get 5-5.5. Capacity is 11.6 quarts. 1 more D/F will get you to 85% exchanged out. 2 more D/Fs will get you to 94%. So, try for at least 1 more D/F.
Thanks guys.
SHOBro do you have a part# for that by-pass valve didnt see it in your post?
Quote from: DerricksSho on October 05, 2017, 03:47:33 AM
Thanks guys.
SHOBro do you have a part# for that by-pass valve didnt see it in your post?
x2 on this request.
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The external trans cooler keeps the the temp within 10 degrees of the thermostat rated temperature. Mine runs at 195-200 even if I make multiple hard runs on a hot California day. Personally I would like to see it at 180-185*
Working on a washer that would close the thermostat a little earlier.
Quote from: SHOdded on October 05, 2017, 05:22:07 PM
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Thanks SHOdded you da man! i got the thumbnail to work but that's much better.
I'm growing more and more disdain for photobucket everytime i see a good how to wasted.
ya, it is a poke in the eye alright.
How fast did you guys do your second drain and fill? Just asking because this stuff isnt cheap but I know how the old saying goes you PAY to PLAY!! Im already see better resultants. Im going to order that part tomorrow Thanks.
Quote from: Gray Brick on October 05, 2017, 05:47:37 PM
The external trans cooler keeps the the temp within 10 degrees of the thermostat rated temperature. Mine runs at 195-200 even if I make multiple hard runs on a hot California day. Personally I would like to see it at 180-185*
Working on a washer that would close the thermostat a little earlier.
Keep us updated on this. I'd be interested in doing something like that
yall welcome for that bypass valve trick :p. mine are around 190s when i beat on it. have bypass valve and aux cooler.
Sorry for the noob question but I didn't see anything mentioned for mileage when to actually change trans fluid. I've seen 20k-50k for PTU but don't recall seeing suggestions for Trans fluid.
Quote from: polskifacet on October 05, 2017, 11:27:23 PM
yall welcome for that bypass valve trick :p. mine are around 190s when i beat on it. have bypass valve and aux cooler.
polski- are you running the aux cooler with the 2 T fittings or just straight back to the trans from the aux cooler?
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Quote from: jbrown9999 on October 06, 2017, 08:29:01 PM
Sorry for the noob question but I didn't see anything mentioned for mileage when to actually change trans fluid. I've seen 20k-50k for PTU but don't recall seeing suggestions for Trans fluid.
Ford states lifetime or 150K whichever comes first. LOL. I would go by old timey standards of every 5 years or 60K miles. More frequent the harder you drive it. So Normal conditions - 5/60. Special Operating Conditions - 3/36.
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Quote from: jbrown9999 on October 06, 2017, 08:29:01 PM
Sorry for the noob question but I didn't see anything mentioned for mileage when to actually change trans fluid. I've seen 20k-50k for PTU but don't recall seeing suggestions for Trans fluid.
Ford states lifetime or 150K whichever comes first. LOL. I would go by old timey standards of every 5 years or 60K miles. More frequent the harder you drive it. So Normal conditions - 5/60. Special Operating Conditions - 3/36.
That's a great recommendation on Manu's part.
I personally perform a double fluid drain/refill once a year, regardless of mileage.
At around $8 p/qt at the dealer, and picking up 6qts. at each swap, I can spare the hundo for solid piece of mind.
Call me crazy.
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Exactly. Cray-Cray, LOL! Seriously tho. I don't know about you folks, but I like to keep parts working properly as long as possible. There is definitely fun in rebuilding, upgrading, etc. but original parts have their own charm :)
In any case, a drain/fill of trans fluid with every oil change (Mike?) is a GREAT idea. Constantly pumping new blood into the system, taking gunk out.
Quote from: Colorado-SHOBro on October 07, 2017, 03:05:36 AM
Quote from: polskifacet on October 05, 2017, 11:27:23 PM
yall welcome for that bypass valve trick :p. mine are around 190s when i beat on it. have bypass valve and aux cooler.
polski- are you running the aux cooler with the 2 T fittings or just straight back to the trans from the aux cooler?
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I have T fittings with the AUX cooler on the branch.
Quote from: polskifacet on October 07, 2017, 11:37:27 PM
Quote from: Colorado-SHOBro on October 07, 2017, 03:05:36 AM
Quote from: polskifacet on October 05, 2017, 11:27:23 PM
yall welcome for that bypass valve trick :p. mine are around 190s when i beat on it. have bypass valve and aux cooler.
polski- are you running the aux cooler with the 2 T fittings or just straight back to the trans from the aux cooler?
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I have T fittings with the AUX cooler on the branch.
IIRC you tested it both ways correct? did it stay cooler with one way or another?
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Quote from: Colorado-SHOBro on October 07, 2017, 11:39:17 PM
Quote from: polskifacet on October 07, 2017, 11:37:27 PM
Quote from: Colorado-SHOBro on October 07, 2017, 03:05:36 AM
Quote from: polskifacet on October 05, 2017, 11:27:23 PM
yall welcome for that bypass valve trick :p. mine are around 190s when i beat on it. have bypass valve and aux cooler.
polski- are you running the aux cooler with the 2 T fittings or just straight back to the trans from the aux cooler?
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I have T fittings with the AUX cooler on the branch.
IIRC you tested it both ways correct? did it stay cooler with one way or another?
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I didn't test it the other way but can confirm that the aux cooler was 180 and i could hold the pipe that goes through the radiator. I followed the stock design.
Quote from: polskifacet on October 07, 2017, 11:44:16 PM
Quote from: Colorado-SHOBro on October 07, 2017, 11:39:17 PM
Quote from: polskifacet on October 07, 2017, 11:37:27 PM
Quote from: Colorado-SHOBro on October 07, 2017, 03:05:36 AM
Quote from: polskifacet on October 05, 2017, 11:27:23 PM
yall welcome for that bypass valve trick :p. mine are around 190s when i beat on it. have bypass valve and aux cooler.
polski- are you running the aux cooler with the 2 T fittings or just straight back to the trans from the aux cooler?
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I have T fittings with the AUX cooler on the branch.
IIRC you tested it both ways correct? did it stay cooler with one way or another?
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I didn't test it the other way but can confirm that the aux cooler was 180 and i could hold the pipe that goes through the radiator. I followed the stock design.
Sorry i'm seeking a little bit of clarity here. trans temps were 180 without the T's? Is there a reason you decided to decided to add the T's? Did you determine one way ran cooler than the other? or just wanted to keep it in stock configuration.
Trying to determine if it would be worth it for me to tear off the bumper and add the T's to my system since the aux cooler had no additional effect as its rigged up now.
Weird it really shouldn't be that much different either way. The stock cooler is part of the ac condenser coil. I don't think you will see cooler temps per se they will just be much more consistent. The thermostat won't allow temp to go under thermostat set point.
Quote from: polskifacet on October 08, 2017, 11:35:18 AM
Weird it really shouldn't be that much different either way. The stock cooler is part of the ac condenser coil. I don't think you will see cooler temps per se they will just be much more consistent. The thermostat won't allow temp to go under thermostat set point.
I thought the same so i plumbed the aux cooler in the simplest way possible. Starting to wonder if it does a damn thing at all or if it's the by-pass Tstat that's doing all the work. Although that's highly unlikely or FMC wouldn't have bothered with the additional cooler. The trans temps do seem more regulated and consistent but peak temps have not dropped at all post aux cooler install.
Quote from: Colorado-SHOBro on October 08, 2017, 12:56:07 PM
Quote from: polskifacet on October 08, 2017, 11:35:18 AM
Weird it really shouldn't be that much different either way. The stock cooler is part of the ac condenser coil. I don't think you will see cooler temps per se they will just be much more consistent. The thermostat won't allow temp to go under thermostat set point.
I thought the same so i plumbed the aux cooler in the simplest way possible. Starting to wonder if it does a damn thing at all or if it's the by-pass Tstat that's doing all the work. Although that's highly unlikely or FMC wouldn't have bothered with the additional cooler. The trans temps do seem more regulated and consistent but peak temps have not dropped at all post aux cooler install.
You would have to bypass the thermostat but then in the winter it would never warm up which is also bad.