Title: NEED HELP W/ ball joint removal.
Post by: Colorado-SHOBro on October 27, 2017, 02:47:38 PM
Post by: Colorado-SHOBro on October 27, 2017, 02:47:38 PM
Attempting to install my H&R springs today and can't get the ball joint to separate/come out of the knuckle assembly.
i'm following the "how to" on the h and r install to the t but the control arm doesn't seem to have any more give to come down out of the knuckle assembly. i've tried jacking up the rotor/knuckle assembly to allow it room to come down out of the knuckle. almost seems like the bolt on the ball joint is binding up in its hole? idk
anybody have any suggestions?
am i missing something?
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got it. underestimated how much leverage you need to pry down the control arm. mod can delete this post
i'm following the "how to" on the h and r install to the t but the control arm doesn't seem to have any more give to come down out of the knuckle assembly. i've tried jacking up the rotor/knuckle assembly to allow it room to come down out of the knuckle. almost seems like the bolt on the ball joint is binding up in its hole? idk
anybody have any suggestions?
am i missing something?
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got it. underestimated how much leverage you need to pry down the control arm. mod can delete this post
Title: Re: NEED HELP W/ ball joint removal.
Post by: glock-coma on October 27, 2017, 03:27:59 PM
Post by: glock-coma on October 27, 2017, 03:27:59 PM
The ball joint swivels, so push it towards the engine bay and you will have more room to pull the control arm down.
It does take some force.
It does take some force.
Title: Re: NEED HELP W/ ball joint removal.
Post by: Colorado-SHOBro on October 27, 2017, 03:29:44 PM
Post by: Colorado-SHOBro on October 27, 2017, 03:29:44 PM
yeah i tried to swivel the joint but it was locked in there. finally found a big enough crow bar to give me leverage and broke it loose!
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Title: Re: NEED HELP W/ ball joint removal.
Post by: SHOdded on October 27, 2017, 04:45:50 PM
Post by: SHOdded on October 27, 2017, 04:45:50 PM
Hope the threads on that bolt are intact ...
Title: Re: NEED HELP W/ ball joint removal.
Post by: pmezo33 on October 27, 2017, 04:52:21 PM
Post by: pmezo33 on October 27, 2017, 04:52:21 PM
Just remove the whole lower control arm and make your life easy. No maneuvering required with the whole thing out.
Title: Re: NEED HELP W/ ball joint removal.
Post by: glock-coma on October 27, 2017, 05:01:12 PM
Post by: glock-coma on October 27, 2017, 05:01:12 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on October 27, 2017, 04:45:50 PMSteel thread > aluminum knuckle
Hope the threads on that bolt are intact ...
Title: Re: NEED HELP W/ ball joint removal.
Post by: polskifacet on October 27, 2017, 05:44:22 PM
Post by: polskifacet on October 27, 2017, 05:44:22 PM
Why are you taking off the ball joint? I did't touch it and was EASILY able to move the hub around as needed?????
Title: Re: NEED HELP W/ ball joint removal.
Post by: SHOdded on October 27, 2017, 05:45:26 PM
Post by: SHOdded on October 27, 2017, 05:45:26 PM
different suspension setups in 2010-12 from 2013+?
Title: Re: NEED HELP W/ ball joint removal.
Post by: polskifacet on October 27, 2017, 05:55:09 PM
Post by: polskifacet on October 27, 2017, 05:55:09 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on October 27, 2017, 05:45:26 PMI guess, all i did was beat off , i mean out, the spined bolts that hold the shock to the spindle/hub. The rest pretty much fell out after unbolting the shock assembly.
different suspension setups in 2010-12 from 2013+?
Title: Re: NEED HELP W/ ball joint removal.
Post by: pmezo33 on October 27, 2017, 05:56:36 PM
Post by: pmezo33 on October 27, 2017, 05:56:36 PM
Quote from: polskifacet on October 27, 2017, 05:44:22 PM
Why are you taking off the ball joint? I did't touch it and was EASILY able to move the hub around as needed?????
2011. You basically have to take out the whole front suspension to get the springs off.
Title: Re: NEED HELP W/ ball joint removal.
Post by: Colorado-SHOBro on October 27, 2017, 09:38:03 PM
Post by: Colorado-SHOBro on October 27, 2017, 09:38:03 PM
Quote from: pmezo33 on October 27, 2017, 05:56:36 PM^yes this. i got the fronts done. i did think about dropping the whole control arm but figured it would take me just as long as fan dangling the control arm and ball joint around. the passenger side went light years faster than the drivers side i did first. once i knew what needed to happen to get the whole assembly out i just started buzzing off bolts and it was done in no time.Quote from: polskifacet on October 27, 2017, 05:44:22 PM
Why are you taking off the ball joint? I did't touch it and was EASILY able to move the hub around as needed?????
2011. You basically have to take out the whole front suspension to get the springs off.
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Title: Re: NEED HELP W/ ball joint removal.
Post by: StealBlueSho on October 27, 2017, 09:59:19 PM
Post by: StealBlueSho on October 27, 2017, 09:59:19 PM
You already figured it out, but yes, a big pry bar will allow you move th control Arm down... PITA... I removed the knuckle as well...
Title: Re: NEED HELP W/ ball joint removal.
Post by: Colorado-SHOBro on October 27, 2017, 10:48:09 PM
Post by: Colorado-SHOBro on October 27, 2017, 10:48:09 PM
yeah i damn near had to stand on the pry bar too. almost made me nervous. can't say this was an easy spring swap. and i'm only half done! 
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Title: Re: NEED HELP W/ ball joint removal.
Post by: SHOdded on October 28, 2017, 12:05:05 AM
Post by: SHOdded on October 28, 2017, 12:05:05 AM
Need to hit the "Atlas" machines ;)
Title: Re: NEED HELP W/ ball joint removal.
Post by: ZSHO on October 28, 2017, 01:04:35 PM
Post by: ZSHO on October 28, 2017, 01:04:35 PM
Dam that suxs man! Best of luck. Z
There's not to much info on FSM.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8JUL90DXgdiUHN5bXdBanJjNWpuby1UV2Q0N0o3OUQtZmJN/view?usp=drivesdk
There's not to much info on FSM.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8JUL90DXgdiUHN5bXdBanJjNWpuby1UV2Q0N0o3OUQtZmJN/view?usp=drivesdk
Title: Re: NEED HELP W/ ball joint removal.
Post by: pmezo33 on October 28, 2017, 06:25:29 PM
Post by: pmezo33 on October 28, 2017, 06:25:29 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on October 27, 2017, 09:59:19 PM
You already figured it out, but yes, a big pry bar will allow you move th control Arm down... PITA... I removed the knuckle as well...
I found removing the entire knuckle to be the easiest way too.
Removed brakes and rotors, remove outer tie rod from knuckle, remove axle nut and push in cv axle, remove end link to strut, remove strut nut to knuckle, remove entire lower control arm, hit steering knuckle downward until it falls off the strut, and that's pretty much the process i did. You remove the four strut mount bolts on top and it drops from there.
Title: Re: NEED HELP W/ ball joint removal.
Post by: StealBlueSho on October 28, 2017, 07:34:21 PM
Post by: StealBlueSho on October 28, 2017, 07:34:21 PM
Exactly!!!!! ^^^^
Title: Re: NEED HELP W/ ball joint removal.
Post by: ehb5150 on October 29, 2017, 07:45:34 AM
Post by: ehb5150 on October 29, 2017, 07:45:34 AM
Try hitting the control arm with a hammer. That may free up the ball joint. Whatever you do, don't hit the ball joint. Prying on the joint may damage the grease boot.
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