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Detailing, SYNC, AV, Security, Electrical, and Lighting => SYNC, A/V, Lighting, and Security Systems => Security/Alarms Systems/Remote Start/Keyless Entry => Topic started by: Wardog692 on July 13, 2017, 09:03:42 PM

Title: Key not detected issue
Post by: Wardog692 on July 13, 2017, 09:03:42 PM
Apparently my key is not detected, but only when I'm in my garage? For example, I can return to my car in a parking lot and start it without taking the key out of my pocket, but in my garage it says "no key detected" and I can't start it until I use the center console trick.

Is something interfering? Is the battery just dying?

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Title: Re: Key not detected issue
Post by: Macgyver on July 13, 2017, 11:27:03 PM
I replaced both my batteries and I am still getting this maybe twice a week.
Title: Re: Key not detected issue
Post by: SHOdded on July 14, 2017, 12:12:35 AM
Vehicle battery strong?  Then may need to replace the RKE module or reprogam keys to the vehicle.
Title: Re: Key not detected issue
Post by: Macgyver on July 14, 2017, 12:32:30 AM
Well she is a 2015 SHO so its the Huge stock battery. Seems more than fine.

The only thing it could be besides what you mentioned is they were Sunbeam dollar store batteries. Maybe just maybe they were old and low voltage. I will check them with a tester.
Title: Re: Key not detected issue
Post by: Gjkrisa on July 14, 2017, 12:40:20 AM
Quote from: Macgyver on July 14, 2017, 12:32:30 AM
Well she is a 2015 SHO so its the Huge stock battery. Seems more than fine.

The only thing it could be besides what you mentioned is they were Sunbeam dollar store batteries. Maybe just maybe they were old and low voltage. I will check them with a tester.
Yea I use to use the cheap alkaline batteries when I'd go to use them a whole pack would be dead so now I stick with Duracell because of a science far project a fellow student did in 5th grade

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Title: Re: Key not detected issue
Post by: Wardog692 on July 14, 2017, 06:08:38 AM
I did recently replace the car battery, but that was a few weeks ago and this is an issue that only just started this week

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Title: Re: Key not detected issue
Post by: SHOdded on July 14, 2017, 07:20:09 AM
Try a branded key fob battery replacement, as mentioned above.  Fingers crossed!
Title: Re: Key not detected issue
Post by: ZSHO on July 14, 2017, 12:21:18 PM
I'm a bit late to the game but did you try swapping the key fobs to see if the issues still persist.?
FYI- If the Battery key fob is slightly on the low side it will NOT function properly.
Battery 2032 needed.
Title: Re: Key not detected issue
Post by: Wardog692 on July 14, 2017, 12:22:57 PM
Z, I haven't tried the second fob yet, I'll do that this weekend (it's not kept at my apartment). FWIW, it worked fine again this morning, so now I don't know what to believe!

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Title: Re: Key not detected issue
Post by: SHOdded on July 14, 2017, 12:38:47 PM
Any difference in scenarios?  Distance, electrical lines/cell towers, obstacles ...?
Title: Re: Key not detected issue
Post by: Wardog692 on July 14, 2017, 12:56:58 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on July 14, 2017, 12:38:47 PM
Any difference in scenarios?  Distance, electrical lines/cell towers, obstacles ...?
Nope, same garage, same morning routine. The only possible thing (and if this is true I'm an idiot) is that I'm on crutches, and I get in by putting my right leg in, but my keys are in my left pocket. The only thing I can think of is that I press the start button while my left leg isn't in the car, therefore it doesn't register the key. But even after doing that, and it not registering, I'll put my leg in fully, close the door, and it still won't start. Does it lock up for a certain period of time if you try to start without a key?

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Title: Re: Key not detected issue
Post by: SHOdded on July 14, 2017, 01:06:15 PM
I do not see a mention of such a lockout feature in the owner's manual.
Title: Re: Key not detected issue
Post by: Macgyver on July 14, 2017, 03:53:44 PM
Both FOBs do it for me.
Title: Re: Key not detected issue
Post by: jbeez on July 14, 2017, 09:27:37 PM
If you have that much of an issue, try putting the fob in the spot for it inside the center console armrest and see how it goes. Could just be local obstruction inside the car. Not sure if it needs a clear shot to the push to start area, center console, or somewhere else

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Title: Re: Key not detected issue
Post by: ZSHO on July 29, 2017, 08:28:57 AM
Is there any update??  I would say SHOdded is spot on!!. Z

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http://www.revbase.com/BBBMotor/TSb/DownloadPdf?id=171978 (http://www.revbase.com/BBBMotor/TSb/DownloadPdf?id=171978)

https://ford.oemdtc.com/TSB/13-05-32.pdf (https://ford.oemdtc.com/TSB/13-05-32.pdf)

https://ford.oemdtc.com/2314/no-start-no-key-detected-remote-keyless-entry-rke-functions-inoperative-2013-ford-fusion-2013-lincoln-mkz (https://ford.oemdtc.com/2314/no-start-no-key-detected-remote-keyless-entry-rke-functions-inoperative-2013-ford-fusion-2013-lincoln-mkz)
Title: Re: Key not detected issue
Post by: Wardog692 on July 29, 2017, 10:23:47 AM
I do think it's just a dying battery, as it has now occurred a few times outside my garage as well. I'll change it out this weekend and see

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Title: Re: Key not detected issue
Post by: ZSHO on July 29, 2017, 10:37:27 AM
Quote from: Wardog692 on July 29, 2017, 10:23:47 AM
I do think it's just a dying battery, as it has now occurred a few times outside my garage as well. I'll change it out this weekend and see

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That's cool man just wanted to touch base with ya. Z   :)
Title: Re: Key not detected issue
Post by: J-Will on July 29, 2017, 01:58:38 PM
Happened to my wife with her 13 Escape, its the FOB battery.

its worth mentioning again the center console spot that jbeez mentioned just for future reference. 
Title: Re: Key not detected issue
Post by: Macgyver on July 29, 2017, 03:46:28 PM
2015 SHO. Wasnt the battery. Leaving 1 FOB in the car over night. The other FOB around 30ft away in the Kitchen. It was sensing one FOB in the car and after starting was trying to latch onto the distant FOB out of running range. My problem went away after moving the spare FOB out of range and isolated.
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