Ecoboost Performance Forum

I've been looking to add an intake over just my K&N drop in filter. Is the new mdesign Intake worth it? From dynos I've seen it provides the largest gains. What are your guys thoughts?


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Well, you will have a lot of ppl saying the gains aren't worth it and that their customer service sucks and the snorkels crack.

That being said, I literally just ordered mine last week.

yea. It seems some hate on it. But I was wondering how many have actually tried it? I'm running a drop in K&N right now and if there Intake is proving 10-15hp OVER a windstorm Intake I can't believe it's a subpar Intake. Plus it's 15% off right now haha


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I hate on all CAIs equally, lol...

M-D gets some extra ire from me due to treatment of forum members and failure to address a specific question I asked of them. Haven't heard much of anything since...

"I notice on your website you talk about a "less restrictive design".

Reducing pressure drop before the turbos is an important factor and I was wondering if you could provide some supporting data on this and what elements of your design (filter, housing, etc) contribute to the reduction and how much."

Cue the crickets!

Bigmac dynoed the OEM vs open pipe and it was within 3 HP I think.

Buy it because you like the eye and ear candy factor. I don't think there is much ear candy with the M-D design but it should be the best at keeping IATs close to oem due to design. It seems they have softened their ridiculous stance regarding defective snouts.

I have an Airaid and a Typhoon decorating my garage floor. I may try the Airaid out of boredom and Brad thinks it may help with pressure drop due to its size. Also our engine compartment is just fugly so anything that can mask Ford's packaging failure is a good thing.

None of the CAI's available show any real world improvement over the stock air box.  Best track times with people who have tried different intakes in the same car, same day, same conditions still record best track times with the stock air box.....

MD is small and yields space for a Meth kit and/or additional equipment if you need space to mount things.

Otherwise. Unless you like showing off your engine. Save your money.

Quote from: Macgyver on February 24, 2018, 02:55:29 AM
MD is small and yields space for a Meth kit and/or additional equipment if you need space to mount things.

Otherwise. Unless you like showing off your engine. Save your money.

Best argument for MD but there are no tanks that fit the space.

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I would have to agree it does look good as far as aesthetics (eye candy) goes and does give you some room to install an OCC if that's the case.
The customer service lacks support as far as warranty goes and should be noted IMO.
Here's an intake review between the MDesign and windstorm for reference.  Z

https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,6267.msg97495/topicseen.html#msg97495 (https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,6267.msg97495/topicseen.html#msg97495)

Not worth it.

I agree that the customer service is lacking. The day after I ordered mine everything on the website changed to out of stock so I sent an email asking if it would be a while before I got my intake and I haven't gotten a response. That was about a month ago. I did notice that everything updated to back order status and the ship date isn't until 3/20 per the website. It was comparable in price to the other intakes due to it being on sale.

There are EBay! products that have ALWAYS appeared to be similar in design to the MDesign.

Has always seemed strange to me, and oh so eerily coincidental.

I have to agree with bpd1151 ^^^ and that everything is available on Ebay with the exception of the deficient Snorkel and makes you wonder.  Z  :hmmm:

I'm going to address the elephant in this room....

Why are these guys still vendors?

AFAIK it's in the works,along with some Spring cleaning.  Z


https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,8250.75.html (https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,8250.75.html)

Well I'm new around here and have been looking for info regarding CAI's and other mods(wife says I cant ever do an exhaust)  ANYWAYS, my hands on experience with MD design "type" intakes is 0.  Reason being that those types of canister filters tend to make every performance vehicle they are used on loose power.  My feeling is that they are just way to restrictive in high demand situations.  Other vendors have created CAI's using these canister filters for turbo/supercharged Benz's, supercharged Jaguars etc....All made less power then a stock setup choking higher boosted cars even more.  I have a feeling they probably work just fine on vehicles that have restrictive intakes. 

To that extent that may be why people are reporting no gains with CAI on stockish ecoboosted vehicles.  The factory intakes may be just that well designed.  But that likely changes with higher boost /turbo upgrades...I don't know though..Im here for info.

Seems Livernois uses an AIR Raid type intake design and I was looking at the aFe setup which utilizes the factory air box lower but haven't heard much talk of it.  Ill be making a separate post on what I'm actually looking for...But Id be surprised if the MD canister setup pulls it off with a modified ecoboost more then an air raid type setup would

The supposed gains are just that SUPPOSED! No really world gains, and we are not talking "stockish" Ecoboost, this ranges from stock to highly modified. But if you want to get one by all means do so, but don't expect performance, because the only gain is a better look underhood.

Quote from: mjhpadi on February 25, 2018, 02:28:16 PM
The supposed gains are just that SUPPOSED! No really world gains, and we are not talking "stockish" Ecoboost, this ranges from stock to highly modified. But if you want to get one by all means do so, but don't expect performance, because the only gain is a better look underhood.

I do find it hard to believe that the stock airbox is that overdesigned that it can still flow enough air with even the demand of more boost.  It just isn't something I'm used to running into but it seems that's what I'm reading here.  Knowing me Ill have to do something, a before and after comparison. I'd likely just fabricate one myself, do some data logging and if it seems I'm running a bit more efficient do some dyno testing.  What I wont do is waste my money on an intake setup or dyno testing if it doesn't seem to pan out.  Happen to know what the stock tube diameter is?

If you do a true dual intake like bpd has on his SHO, that might actually be worth the effort of designing one yourself.  Otherwise count on visual gains more than anything.

Saw that on the f150's.  Ill see what I can do once the weather gets a bit better out:O)

I had the MD Design on for about 500 miles. The part throttle response was better than the stock box but WOT power seemed down. It looked nice and allowed access to the trans dipstick but I didn't know if water would collect in the inter-cooler during rain storms since there is no drain like on the stock box.
It's sitting on a shelf now.

Mine is on the shelf in the garage.  After the snorkel broke and I read what kind of hell MD puts you through to get a new one, I just bought a K&N drop in for the stock box.  I actually noticed more torque (from the torque pro readout mind you) with the stock box and K&N.  Also the MD was full of debris and leaves.  Keep in mind that their fully boxed design makes cleaning a pain and it seems that once it gets a little full it will be very restrictive.  Unlike a stock box that has a big space for crap on the dirty side. Maybe one day I will sell it or something.