I just sold my Airaid CAI (for almost what I paid for it) because it didn't seem like it was really doing any better than the stock box with a k&n drop in. (I know whoosh, whoosh noises)
Now I keep going back and forth about upgrading to the EPP CAI, it looks super awesome and it is supposed to help the turbos breath a little easier, but I just don't think the juice is worth the squeeze on the stock turbos. I have searched and cannot find a stock vs. EPP HP gains so it's tough to shell out that kind of coin for something that costs almost as much as the GH IC but won't give me near the HP/$$$. Is there a better upgrade that can be had for that kind of $ or am I being too dang practical? I see that some say it's .1-.2 tenths in the 1/4, but from what I've noticed, that is all cars running the GH turbos so that upgrade makes sense to me.
CHANGE MY MIND!!!
Quote from: WinPlaceSHO on May 19, 2020, 06:37:16 PM
I just sold my Airaid CAI (for almost what I paid for it) because it didn't seem like it was really doing any better than the stock box with a k&n drop in. (I know whoosh, whoosh noises)
Now I keep going back and forth about upgrading to the EPP CAI, it looks super awesome and it is supposed to help the turbos breath a little easier, but I just don't think the juice is worth the squeeze on the stock turbos. I have searched and cannot find a stock vs. EPP HP gains so it's tough to shell out that kind of coin for something that costs almost as much as the GH IC but won't give me near the HP/$$$. Is there a better upgrade that can be had for that kind of $ or am I being too dang practical? I see that some say it's .1-.2 tenths in the 1/4, but from what I've noticed, that is all cars running the GH turbos so that upgrade makes sense to me.
CHANGE MY MIND!!!
Not looking to change your mind, but I went to the track a lot last summer. My times were pretty consistent once I got my car finalized. Couple 12.2's, couple 12.3's and if I screwed up a launch maybe a low 12.4. That was with airaid (stock turbos).
I switched back to stock box one week while I took the airaid out to clean it and let it air dry for a couple days. Decided last minute to go to the track and rushed home to swap cars and totally forgot that it had the stock box in and went to track like that. Did not get a single 12.2, best run was low 12.3's and had quite a few 12.4's.
Switched to EPP intake this winter and although I have not been to the track yet, dragy times indicate I'm a little over a tenth faster than I was in same temps/DA last year.
Honestly tho unless you have all the other mods your money is probably better spent on an intercooler.
I'm supposed to be getting an email about the IC this week, I was on the list and made the first cut, so YAY!
I appreciate the feedback on the EPP, if it really does add .2, then I would be willing to get it. Also, just out of curiosity, how did you get that 11 in your sig? Same mods as you have now with a good DA?
That's the goal is 11's without the upgraded turbos.
Quote from: WinPlaceSHO on May 20, 2020, 10:02:25 AM
I'm supposed to be getting an email about the IC this week, I was on the list and made the first cut, so YAY!
I appreciate the feedback on the EPP, if it really does add .2, then I would be willing to get it. Also, just out of curiosity, how did you get that 11 in your sig? Same mods as you have now with a good DA?
That's the goal is 11's without the upgraded turbos.
I switched from the AIRAID to the EPP Dual Feed CAI over the winter.. everyone I have talked too is seeing a .1 - .2 faster ET with this setup. I spent quite a bit of time talking with my tuner Matt at Gearhead about making the change.. his take was that you will see a small improvement with stock turbos but will see a much bigger improvement with bigger turbos..
Historically any time you can give a turbo a dedicated intake setup it helps so there is that..
I don't use a draggy as there is no where safe to do a full 1/4 mile pull but I ran a 11.922 at full weight with the airaid.. this year obviously shooting for lower.. next time at the track will be a bit different cause I swapped to light weight wheels and wider/better tires which shaved ~8lbs of rotating weight off each corner plus I added the EPP CAI.. hoping to see 11.7's at full weight this year.
Quote from: WinPlaceSHO on May 20, 2020, 10:02:25 AM
I'm supposed to be getting an email about the IC this week, I was on the list and made the first cut, so YAY!
I appreciate the feedback on the EPP, if it really does add .2, then I would be willing to get it. Also, just out of curiosity, how did you get that 11 in your sig? Same mods as you have now with a good DA?
That's the goal is 11's without the upgraded turbos.
Same mods and probably 200 plus pounds of weight reduction. DA that night was 562.
I want to say my best dragy pass on the street last fall was 12.25 and so far this spring my best is 12.07 full weight. I did have a tweak or two to the tune as well but with my mods the intake seems to have helped as well.
How much of a PITA is it to take out to fill the transmission fluid? Tough to tell from the pics if the pipes are in the way and need to be taken out at well.
Quote from: WinPlaceSHO on May 20, 2020, 11:07:22 AM
How much of a PITA is it to take out to fill the transmission fluid? Tough to tell from the pics if the pipes are in the way and need to be taken out at well.
Stupid easy.... don't need to take anything out...
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Alright, now they have a "rear turbo hose" on the list, is that needed or not? Worth it for the extra $40? (I'm assuming reusing the old part is easier but I'm not sure if it is one of those things that can cause leaks or commonly causes leaks)
Also, if I get the catch can bung but don't use it right away, what is the best way to plug it so that it doesn't leak?
Thanks!
I added this to the description when I added the option:
The custom rear turbo hose option either allows you to use you factory rear turbo rubber hose which makes the install much easier if you don't include the custom hose or if you choose the rear custom hose then you'll have to remove the factory rubber hose and will replace with our custom silicone hose.
Right now you can only get it with the custom rear turbo hose so order it that way unless you want to wait for the new pipes that will be here next week.
BTW, the intake is on the turbo inlet side, there's no way to get leaks as there's no boost there.
My clamp bolt for the rear S hose was at the worst possible angle, could not get a socket or a screwdriver fully on it to turn it, so while I was wrestling with that part of the installation I was absolutely wishing that the stock S hose could have been reused. If I had to do it over again tho I would probably want to replace the entire stock setup, but man was it a PITA.
Transmission fluid is much more accessible with this intake than an airaid. I had to completely remove my airaid to even check the fluid level. This intake can be left in even if you have to put a funnel down to add fluid. I just added a little bit a few weeks ago.
It's been too long since I've used the stock box to remember for sure if that had to be removed to access the transmission fluid.
Quote from: EcoPowerParts on May 20, 2020, 06:44:32 PM
I added this to the description when I added the option:
The custom rear turbo hose option either allows you to use you factory rear turbo rubber hose which makes the install much easier if you don't include the custom hose or if you choose the rear custom hose then you'll have to remove the factory rubber hose and will replace with our custom silicone hose.
Right now you can only get it with the custom rear turbo hose so order it that way unless you want to wait for the new pipes that will be here next week.
BTW, the intake is on the turbo inlet side, there's no way to get leaks as there's no boost there.
So if I order the custom rear hose, do I have to use it, or can it still work with the factory setup?
Thanks!
Quote from: ridered74 on May 20, 2020, 09:41:25 PM
My clamp bolt for the rear S hose was at the worst possible angle, could not get a socket or a screwdriver fully on it to turn it, so while I was wrestling with that part of the installation I was absolutely wishing that the stock S hose could have been reused. If I had to do it over again tho I would probably want to replace the entire stock setup, but man was it a PITA.
Transmission fluid is much more accessible with this intake than an airaid. I had to completely remove my airaid to even check the fluid level. This intake can be left in even if you have to put a funnel down to add fluid. I just added a little bit a few weeks ago.
It's been too long since I've used the stock box to remember for sure if that had to be removed to access the transmission fluid.
Stock box has to come off just like the Airaid, that's why I was wondering, glad to hear it's still accessible. Just that alone makes this very attractive to me because I hated having to take it off just to check the trans fluid.
Did you get the bung for Catch Can? I don't have one but might get it down the road.
Thanks!
Quote from: WinPlaceSHO on May 21, 2020, 10:03:44 AM
Quote from: ridered74 on May 20, 2020, 09:41:25 PM
My clamp bolt for the rear S hose was at the worst possible angle, could not get a socket or a screwdriver fully on it to turn it, so while I was wrestling with that part of the installation I was absolutely wishing that the stock S hose could have been reused. If I had to do it over again tho I would probably want to replace the entire stock setup, but man was it a PITA.
Transmission fluid is much more accessible with this intake than an airaid. I had to completely remove my airaid to even check the fluid level. This intake can be left in even if you have to put a funnel down to add fluid. I just added a little bit a few weeks ago.
It's been too long since I've used the stock box to remember for sure if that had to be removed to access the transmission fluid.
Stock box has to come off just like the Airaid, that's why I was wondering, glad to hear it's still accessible. Just that alone makes this very attractive to me because I hated having to take it off just to check the trans fluid.
Did you get the bung for Catch Can? I don't have one but might get it down the road.
Thanks!
I did not get the catch can bung.
It is definitely nice to be able to access the trans dipstick and be able to fill without pulling out the air box. That was kind of a stupid design. Once when I was lazy and went to a quick oil change place they told me the transmission was a sealed system after I told them I had already changed the fluid. Said it was impossible for me to have changed the fluid. LMAO!
Quote from: ridered74 on May 21, 2020, 11:39:32 AM
Quote from: WinPlaceSHO on May 21, 2020, 10:03:44 AM
Quote from: ridered74 on May 20, 2020, 09:41:25 PM
My clamp bolt for the rear S hose was at the worst possible angle, could not get a socket or a screwdriver fully on it to turn it, so while I was wrestling with that part of the installation I was absolutely wishing that the stock S hose could have been reused. If I had to do it over again tho I would probably want to replace the entire stock setup, but man was it a PITA.
Transmission fluid is much more accessible with this intake than an airaid. I had to completely remove my airaid to even check the fluid level. This intake can be left in even if you have to put a funnel down to add fluid. I just added a little bit a few weeks ago.
It's been too long since I've used the stock box to remember for sure if that had to be removed to access the transmission fluid.
Stock box has to come off just like the Airaid, that's why I was wondering, glad to hear it's still accessible. Just that alone makes this very attractive to me because I hated having to take it off just to check the trans fluid.
Did you get the bung for Catch Can? I don't have one but might get it down the road.
Thanks!
I did not get the catch can bung.
It is definitely nice to be able to access the trans dipstick and be able to fill without pulling out the air box. That was kind of a stupid design. Once when I was lazy and went to a quick oil change place they told me the transmission was a sealed system after I told them I had already changed the fluid. Said it was impossible for me to have changed the fluid. LMAO!
That sounds almost as bad as Ford telling me that the RDU and PTU were lifetime and didn't need a change. That's a nope.
Quote from: WinPlaceSHO on May 21, 2020, 09:57:51 AM
Quote from: EcoPowerParts on May 20, 2020, 06:44:32 PM
I added this to the description when I added the option:
The custom rear turbo hose option either allows you to use you factory rear turbo rubber hose which makes the install much easier if you don't include the custom hose or if you choose the rear custom hose then you'll have to remove the factory rubber hose and will replace with our custom silicone hose.
Right now you can only get it with the custom rear turbo hose so order it that way unless you want to wait for the new pipes that will be here next week.
BTW, the intake is on the turbo inlet side, there's no way to get leaks as there's no boost there.
So if I order the custom rear hose, do I have to use it, or can it still work with the factory setup?
Thanks!
Right now the only pipes I have work with the custom hose, next week they work with stock hose and have to be cut to work with the custom hose option.
Well ridered74, you sneaky son of a gun, you with all of those mind tricks... you changed my mind. I pulled the trigger today, I hope you're happy, you are enabling my problem/addiction. Ha!
Jk, with the sale of the used parts I had laying around in the garage I only had to pony up about $100, so I'm going to call it a win! Heck it will be worth it just to easily check my trans fluid.
Thanks again for everyone answering my questions.
Quote from: WinPlaceSHO on May 22, 2020, 08:50:28 AM
Well ridered74, you sneaky son of a gun, you with all of those mind tricks... you changed my mind. I pulled the trigger today, I hope you're happy, you are enabling my problem/addiction. Ha!
Jk, with the sale of the used parts I had laying around in the garage I only had to pony up about $100, so I'm going to call it a win! Heck it will be worth it just to easily check my trans fluid.
Thanks again for everyone answering my questions.
You are gonna love how it sounds... it's pretty gnarly...
If you are a fan of Mad Max (the original) it sounds like when Max hits the supercharger on his Falcon XB GT..
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Quote from: WinPlaceSHO on May 22, 2020, 08:50:28 AM
Well ridered74, you sneaky son of a gun, you with all of those mind tricks... you changed my mind. I pulled the trigger today, I hope you're happy, you are enabling my problem/addiction. Ha!
Jk, with the sale of the used parts I had laying around in the garage I only had to pony up about $100, so I'm going to call it a win! Heck it will be worth it just to easily check my trans fluid.
Thanks again for everyone answering my questions.
LOL! I know the feeling man. Pretty much every single thing I've done to my car started with "nah i don't really need that". The sound is really cool tho, and the look of it isn't too bad either.
I ordered mine last week and it's sitting on the bench. I figured I might as well order GH gen 3 turbos as I would be 1/3 of the way there sooo.... This brings me to full bolt on's! Now I just need an email from Brad:).
this is funny "nah i don't really need that" when I started I told the wife I will go all the way up to meth. Ummmmm welll....
Quote from: 76fomoco on May 24, 2020, 09:57:42 AM
I ordered mine last week and it's sitting on the bench. I figured I might as well order GH gen 3 turbos as I would be 1/3 of the way there sooo.... This brings me to full bolt on's! Now I just need an email from Brad:).
this is funny "nah i don't really need that" when I started I told the wife I will go all the way up to meth. Ummmmm welll....
Hell yeah buddy
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