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Ecoboost Performance => Performance => Topic started by: Gray Brick on September 18, 2016, 02:09:33 PM

Title: What is our intercooler drop pressure?
Post by: Gray Brick on September 18, 2016, 02:09:33 PM
Has anyone tested the pressure drop between the inlet and outlet of the SHO/ Flex stock intercooler?

I am sure it gets worse as modifications are made and boost is increased by tunes etc. 

Title: Re: What is our intercooler drop pressure?
Post by: AJP turbo on September 18, 2016, 02:43:22 PM
I dont know...but why do u ask?
Title: Re: What is our intercooler drop pressure?
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on September 18, 2016, 02:54:28 PM
I'm curious too because anyway we can lessen that, the more efficient our tiny turbos are.

It would also be nice to know the starting point in case anyone decides to build us a FMIC so we have a starting reference point.
Title: Re: What is our intercooler drop pressure?
Post by: Gray Brick on September 19, 2016, 02:08:38 AM
I am asking because stock equipment is usually at its limit at stock boost levels.

I am seeing 16-18 psi after tune and mods... the weak link is probably the stock CAC at this point.

Looking into fitting a water to air intercooler in place of the air to air stock unit.
Title: Re: What is our intercooler drop pressure?
Post by: SHOdded on September 19, 2016, 05:25:38 AM
I suppose you could fit an extra MAP sensor in before the IC, and measure voltages off of that to see how the PCM would see it?  The data might not be the most accurate, but would provide a valid comparison, I would think.
Title: Intercooler Pressure Drop
Post by: Gray Brick on October 10, 2016, 04:26:52 AM
Measured the pressure drop across my intercooler to be 3-4 psi.
I am running 18psi boost.

The stock intercooler is being replaced soon with a water to air intercooler.

This should free up some horsepower with the stock turbos.
Title: Re: Intercooler Pressure Drop
Post by: SHOdded on October 10, 2016, 05:54:35 AM
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Title: Re: Intercooler Pressure Drop
Post by: Colorado-SHOBro on October 10, 2016, 03:39:58 PM
Quote from: Gray Brick on October 10, 2016, 04:26:52 AM
Measured the pressure drop across my intercooler to be 3-4 psi.
I am running 18psi boost.

The stock intercooler is being replaced soon with a water to air intercooler.

This should free up some horsepower with the stock turbos.
nice! would it be beneficial at all to run a water to air intercooler in series with the stock IC providing the water setup had little to no pressure drop? i've been looking at this kit
http://www.frozenboost.com/liquid-air-intercooler/water-to-air-intercooler-p-1034.html (http://www.frozenboost.com/liquid-air-intercooler/water-to-air-intercooler-p-1034.html)
Title: Re: Intercooler Pressure Drop
Post by: SHOdded on October 10, 2016, 03:43:04 PM
Wouldn't want the cooling to get TOO efficient, so the system has to have checks and balances.  Please, no F150 history repeat here LOL.

And the problem with an additional IC is lack of space in the SHO layout.  Flex/XSport, more feasible.
Title: Re: Intercooler Pressure Drop
Post by: Colorado-SHOBro on October 10, 2016, 03:47:08 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on October 10, 2016, 03:43:04 PM
Wouldn't want the cooling to get TOO efficient, so the system has to have checks and balances.  Please, no F150 history repeat here LOL.

And the problem with an additional IC is lack of space in the SHO layout.  Flex/XSport, more feasible.
i know space is the major factor. but please elaborate on cooling being too efficient . . not too sure what you mean by that
Title: Re: Intercooler Pressure Drop
Post by: SHOdded on October 10, 2016, 03:53:48 PM
Check the F150 TSBs.  Ford actually had to put in a fix to reduce intercooler efficiency as it was creating too much precipitate from the air passing through the intercooler and causing all kinds of herky jerky effects within the engine as a result of that precipitate getting sucked into the engine.  I don't know if, with the fix in place, the F150 still needs it's intercooler drilled to let precipitate exit the IC, which started as an interim fix while the TSB was in development.
Title: Re: Intercooler Pressure Drop
Post by: Gray Brick on October 10, 2016, 03:59:41 PM
I will be bypassing the stock CAC and using a large water to air.  In time it will be replaced by a large heat exchanger.

I am not concerned with being too efficient.  The oil\crud will not have a chance to accumulate with my setup.
Title: Re: Intercooler Pressure Drop
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on October 10, 2016, 04:41:25 PM
How were you able to measure it?
Title: Re: Intercooler Pressure Drop
Post by: Colorado-SHOBro on October 10, 2016, 06:41:42 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on October 10, 2016, 03:53:48 PM
Check the F150 TSBs.  Ford actually had to put in a fix to reduce intercooler efficiency as it was creating too much precipitate from the air passing through the intercooler and causing all kinds of herky jerky effects within the engine as a result of that precipitate getting sucked into the engine.  I don't know if, with the fix in place, the F150 still needs it's intercooler drilled to let precipitate exit the IC, which started as an interim fix while the TSB was in development.
that makes sense.didn't know about that TSB thanks for the heads up
Title: Re: Intercooler Pressure Drop
Post by: Gray Brick on October 11, 2016, 01:45:05 AM
Connected hose prior and after intercooler and connected it to a differential pressure gauge.
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