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Started by Vortex69, November 23, 2013, 08:39:08 AM

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TouchOfEvil

This is a very common complaint for Ford. They have this problem on just about every vehicle they make after doing research on it. There is a 50+page thread on another board for this very subject.
Ford has TPS out for certain vehicles but it doesn't actually work for most people and if the ride in question was built after XX/XX date it was performed during the build process and just did not work.
There have been many people try to get buy backs from this issue and Ford turns them down.
One fellow on the other board said he sued using the lemon law and won. No idea if that is true or not though.
From most of what i have seen is the smell enters the cabin via the recirculate on the ac system.
Everyone gets it after a hard accel above 70mph. This is a very common problem that Ford to date has not come out with a real fix for it.
2014 XSport

BiGMaC

Quote from: TouchOfEvil on November 29, 2013, 12:59:22 PM
This is a very common complaint for Ford. They have this problem on just about every vehicle they make after doing research on it. There is a 50+page thread on another board for this very subject.
Ford has TPS out for certain vehicles but it doesn't actually work for most people and if the ride in question was built after XX/XX date it was performed during the build process and just did not work.
There have been many people try to get buy backs from this issue and Ford turns them down.
One fellow on the other board said he sued using the lemon law and won. No idea if that is true or not though.
From most of what i have seen is the smell enters the cabin via the recirculate on the ac system.
Everyone gets it after a hard accel above 70mph. This is a very common problem that Ford to date has not come out with a real fix for it.


The "lemon law" in AZ is pretty rigid... mostly just takes documentation of 3 unsuccessful attempts to correct the problem.

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

Vortex69

TouchOfEvil, thanks, do you have a link to that info?
'13 SHO

TouchOfEvil

Quote from: Vortex69 on November 29, 2013, 03:40:50 PM
TouchOfEvil, thanks, do you have a link to that info?
Yep, sending now.
2014 XSport

IHeartGroceries

Very interesting. Knew I wasn't crazy.

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2013 SHO PP

BiGMaC

OK, so I drove the car pretty hard as an experiment with high and low speed accelerations and steady 90ish mph... no smell in the cabin.   When I got home I garaged it and shut the door.... and outside the car I smelled it... kinda like a freshly paved road.  It wasn't strong, but definitely there.

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

Vortex69

Quote from: TouchOfEvil on November 30, 2013, 01:31:59 AM
Quote from: Vortex69 on November 29, 2013, 03:40:50 PM
TouchOfEvil, thanks, do you have a link to that info?
Yep, sending now.

Thanks for that link. Way bigger problem than just me.
'13 SHO

Frozen Taurus

Quote from: BiGMaC on December 01, 2013, 11:59:32 AM
OK, so I drove the car pretty hard as an experiment with high and low speed accelerations and steady 90ish mph... no smell in the cabin.   When I got home I garaged it and shut the door.... and outside the car I smelled it... kinda like a freshly paved road.  It wasn't strong, but definitely there.

Could that just be deposits being burned off the cats? Most cars get that after a spirited driving session if they haven't been driven really hard lately.

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My other car is a 447 awhp Talon

BiGMaC


•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

TouchOfEvil

Quote from: BiGMaC on December 01, 2013, 11:59:32 AM
OK, so I drove the car pretty hard as an experiment with high and low speed accelerations and steady 90ish mph... no smell in the cabin.   When I got home I garaged it and shut the door.... and outside the car I smelled it... kinda like a freshly paved road.  It wasn't strong, but definitely there.
Not every vehicle gets the issue but a large number do. Also for me if i'm running with the air off i never get a smell. But if i have the air on it gets in the cabin. It's the worse with ac on and recirc on at the same time.
Personally it's not a big deal because i don't go WOT over 70mph too often so i rarely have the issue anyway.
For others though it seems they get a much stronger ratio of exhaust vs fresh air. Some have reported headaches and so fourth. I guess i'm lucky mine is there but not too terrible.
2014 XSport

SHOdded

Time to get a charcoal cabin filter & up the change frequency!
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If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

IHeartGroceries

I did sift through a rather lengthy thread on an Explorer forum about this issue. Seems pretty common on their end.
I see the TSB for this was issued for the Flex, though? Ford describes it in their TSB verbiage as a sulfur smell.
This is pretty weird.
It hasn't happened to me in several days. But, like already mentioned, I don't accelerate heavily beyond 70 MPH too often.

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2013 SHO PP

Vortex69

Just an update.

I've run it pretty hard a number of times since I started this post and had no smell as a result, however, recently it has been happening a few times under normal driving. Today, and during a thirty minute drive, my eye's started to burn. It was at that time that I faintly noticed that smell again. Had to drop a window.... Can you imagine how sweet fresh air is after you've been slowly subjected to those noxious gasses?? It now appears that instead of getting a huge blast of those gasses, I am now being slow roasted.

Anyway, looks like I'm headed back to the dealer for a second time.
'13 SHO

IHeartGroceries

Fascinating. Looking forward to what your dealer comes up with.

I haven't driven mine in a week, so I haven't really been able to test it. Hoping that crap doesn't start seeping in randomly like that! That's horrendous. 

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2013 SHO PP

BiGMaC

Good luck... Hopefully the dealer can get it fixed quickly for you! ...

Hopefully it will do the thing for them.... My luck is Not good in that category... Seems I can't ever duplcate problems for the mechanics.

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock