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Title: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: ZSHO on December 06, 2016, 04:33:03 PM
I just wanted to give a quick update if anyone is in need of ordering a new Vapor Canister Purge Valve for your 13+SHO/Flex/Xsport and pretty sure there compatible with all the above mentioned vehicles.

I guess after some trial and error found out that www.fordpart.com (http://www.fordpart.com) lists part number 9C915(CX-2409)  and is incorrect and does not fit....even after typing in my vin number.
                                                  http://www.fordparts.com/Commerce/PartDetail.aspx?n=oUXyqE3EIA6E3VrDGIasAQ%3d%3d&id=399018608&m=2&search=true&year=2013&make=Ford&model=Taurus (http://www.fordparts.com/Commerce/PartDetail.aspx?n=oUXyqE3EIA6E3VrDGIasAQ%3d%3d&id=399018608&m=2&search=true&year=2013&make=Ford&model=Taurus) 

Rock auto also lists part number CX2409 and also does not fit.     http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=2604044&cc=1503823&jsn=436 (http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=2604044&cc=1503823&jsn=436)
     
The correct part number would be (DG1Z-9G271-B) and found the best price on http://www.tascaparts.com/oe-ford/dg1z9g271b (http://www.tascaparts.com/oe-ford/dg1z9g271b)  for 36.15 which includes the whole assembly,valve and hose connector's and simply a plug and play unit which literally takes roughly 10 minutes to install and its located between the rear valve cover and top of the manifold,hope this helps someone out in ordering the correct purge valve for your ecoboost,any questions feel free to ask.LMK.  Z

Her's some pic's of the newly installed purge valve solenoid.  Z 


(http://i.imgur.com/Q7dm02Xh.jpg?3)

(http://i.imgur.com/Gkq6lzzh.jpg)(http://width=400%20height=300]http://i.imgur.com/ucW5iIAh.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/0RhMCKvh.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/Ben4Vqih.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/widuGDrh.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: SHOdded on December 06, 2016, 05:15:45 PM
Disheartening that fordparts is pointing to the incorrect part number.  RockAuto does have incorrect listings from time to time, that I knew.  Great info & pics :)

(http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/t597/PerfA_ZN0W/2010-up/Evaporative%20Emission%20Canister%20Purge%20Valve%20mdash%203.5L%20GTDI_zpsvqfdbw7j.jpg) (http://s1315.photobucket.com/user/PerfA_ZN0W/media/2010-up/Evaporative%20Emission%20Canister%20Purge%20Valve%20mdash%203.5L%20GTDI_zpsvqfdbw7j.jpg.html)
Item  Part Number  Description 
1  14A464  Evaporative Emission (EVAP) canister purge valve electrical connector 
2  9G271  EVAP canister purge valve 
3  —  EVAP canister purge valve-to-vapor tube quick connect coupling (part of 9G271) 
4  —  EVAP canister purge valve-to-intake manifold quick connect coupling (part of 9G271) 
5  9J279  Vapor tube 
6  —  Intake manifold boss (part of 9424) 
7  9424  Intake manifold
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: ZSHO on December 07, 2016, 09:59:39 AM
Here is a quick update for ya'll and didn't want to rush to judgement.....
I have to say for quite sometime now have been experiencing a rough idle,stumble situation especially in the colder months which honestly was quite frustrating to say the least and tried many troubleshooting methods to no avail!

I also noticed when returning to stock tune that my I/M took much longer than usual to complete especially the rear 02 sensors prior to inspection.
I guess a faulty purge valve is also known to throw off your fuel trims a bit which can cause the above mentioned symptoms,issues to occur.
Its also amazing that such a relatively cheap part can wreak mayhem in many ways.
I also wanted to give SHOdded a  :bigthanx:  :bigthanx: for advising me in the right direction and IMHO the car is purring like a kitten and smoooooth as butter and back in business. :).. Z 
:drive: Also below there is a video referenced to the issue. Z   :drive:           

http://youtu.be/S6dsQoq73aE (http://youtu.be/S6dsQoq73aE)
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: SHOdded on December 07, 2016, 10:49:00 AM
let's hope this valve does the trick!
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: ogp on March 07, 2017, 10:58:09 AM
I have a '13 ecoboost flex and I'm getting a P0456. I cleared it a month or so ago by inserting the fuel funnel a few times but it has come up again. Is this version of the vapor canister purge valve unable to be tested as shown by FordTechMakuloco (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR0Dm7IqgNA) on youtube? Would I be checking the port that goes to the vapor tube, right? Or the end that goes to the manifold? Even with the car running fine, should I not worry about testing and just replace it? Try cleaning the filler cap again?
I did have the filler neck replaced under recall at the end of last year (the smell of gasoline became quite strong) and shortly after that is when I had my first P0456 error code. Coincidence?
Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks.
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: ZSHO on March 07, 2017, 11:29:00 AM
Quote from: ogp on March 07, 2017, 10:58:09 AM
I have a '13 ecoboost flex and I'm getting a P0456. I cleared it a month or so ago by inserting the fuel funnel a few times but it has come up again. Is this version of the vapor canister purge valve unable to be tested as shown by FordTechMakuloco (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR0Dm7IqgNA) on youtube? Would I be checking the port that goes to the vapor tube, right? Or the end that goes to the manifold? Even with the car running fine, should I not worry about testing and just replace it? Try cleaning the filler cap again?
I did have the filler neck replaced under recall at the end of last year (the smell of gasoline became quite strong) and shortly after that is when I had my first P0456 error code. Coincidence?
Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks.
I would remove the power/Harness/green/connector and with the vehicle running check to see if there is any type of suction by placing your finger on the port with the green connector and if so it needs replacing.
BTW It did fix my rough idle. Z
Due setup an intro OGP by following the below link,many thanks and welcome.

http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/board,14.0.html (http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/board,14.0.html)

(http://i.imgur.com/widuGDrh.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: ogp on March 07, 2017, 02:51:39 PM
Thanks for the info.
I checked with the power disconnected and there was no vacuum. With the power connected there was a noticeable vacuum. So I guess that isn't my problem. I did the fuel funnel trick and cleared the code. Didn't come back up after a restart. I'll just have to keep an eye on it and see if it comes back up.
Thanks again!
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: SHOdded on March 07, 2017, 03:39:12 PM
There's always the 30 minute battery disconnect method if it comes back.  Of course that also means you will have to let the PCM relearn and complete the drive cycle.
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: JonSHO on March 10, 2017, 07:01:48 PM
Thanks for this helpful thread. I have a 2010 SHO and the local Ford parts guy was bewildered trying to find the purge valve for my car. This really is a huge screw-up. As far as I can tell, my 2010 purge valve looks just like the 2013 valve in the photos posted here. This is the purge valve for my car according to Ford: TASCA LINK (http://www.tascaparts.com/ford/taurus/7u5z9c915d/2010-year/sho-trim/3-5l-v6-gas-engine/emission-system-cat/emission-components-scat/?part_name=purge-control-valve).

Whatever happens, I'll have saved $300 doing this myself, including diagnosing the problem with my $20 Veepeak ODBII scanner. I've owned a SCT but never a cheap scanner. I was pleasantly surprised that it showed a description of the P-code too. So I'm already $100 in the black. If this "DG1Z-9G271-B" is all I need, damn, that's a cheap fix. The parts counter guy at first tried to sell me a vapor canister rather than the purge valve. It just seems to me that there's a difference with the Ecoboost engine that isn't communicated very well by Ford.
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: SHOdded on March 10, 2017, 07:09:45 PM
The parts catalog has also been under revision as of late, so I would doublecheck the catalog vs actusl part oncar wherever possible.
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: ZSHO on March 10, 2017, 07:20:23 PM
Quote from: JonSHO on March 10, 2017, 07:01:48 PM
Thanks for this helpful thread. I have a 2010 SHO and the local Ford parts guy was bewildered trying to find the purge valve for my car. This really is a huge screw-up. As far as I can tell, my 2010 purge valve looks just like the 2013 valve in the photos posted here. This is the purge valve for my car according to Ford: TASCA LINK (http://www.tascaparts.com/ford/taurus/7u5z9c915d/2010-year/sho-trim/3-5l-v6-gas-engine/emission-system-cat/emission-components-scat/?part_name=purge-control-valve).

Whatever happens, I'll have saved $300 doing this myself, including diagnosing the problem with my $20 Veepeak ODBII scanner. I've owned a SCT but never a cheap scanner. I was pleasantly surprised that it showed a description of the P-code too. So I'm already $100 in the black. If this "DG1Z-9G271-B" is all I need, damn, that's a cheap fix. The parts counter guy at first tried to sell me a vapor canister rather than the purge valve. It just seems to me that there's a difference with the Ecoboost engine that isn't communicated very well by Ford.
Jon how many miles on your SHO? X2 on what SHOdded said.
It seems that your 10 SHO has the identical part as mine .9F945   (8G1Z9F945A) 55.52  and if you would be kind enough to setup a intro for yourself,many thanks.  Z
http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/board,14.0.html (http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/board,14.0.html)
http://www.fordparts.com/Commerce/PartDetail.aspx?n=0OVuF%2f90jWqx9KS6IUoc0w%3d%3d&id=410347348&m=2&search=true&year=2010&make=Ford&model=Taurus (http://www.fordparts.com/Commerce/PartDetail.aspx?n=0OVuF%2f90jWqx9KS6IUoc0w%3d%3d&id=410347348&m=2&search=true&year=2010&make=Ford&model=Taurus)
http://www.tascaparts.com/ford/taurus/8g1z9f945a/2010-year/sho-trim/3-5l-v6-gas-engine/emission-system-cat/emission-components-scat/?part_name=solenoid (http://www.tascaparts.com/ford/taurus/8g1z9f945a/2010-year/sho-trim/3-5l-v6-gas-engine/emission-system-cat/emission-components-scat/?part_name=solenoid)
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: JonSHO on March 10, 2017, 07:24:02 PM
Here's a photo of the purge valve with part #s. Looks different but maybe just an older version of the one ZSHO posted? I don't know but I'm glad I'm doing this and not some apathetic Ford mechanic.

Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: JonSHO on March 11, 2017, 05:28:44 PM
Can anyone confirm that DG1Z-9G271-B is correct for cars prior to 2013?
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: ZSHO on March 11, 2017, 07:46:03 PM
Quote from: JonSHO on March 11, 2017, 05:28:44 PM
Can anyone confirm that DG1Z-9G271-B is correct for cars prior to 2013?
I'm still seeing part number 8G1Z-9F945-A   9F945- based on a Vin from a 10 SHO and looks identical to mine.  Z
Production Date: 06/2009-12/2013

https://www.fordpartsgiant.com/parts/ford-solenoid-asy_8g1z-9f945-a.html?Vin=1FAHP2KT6AG151697&Filter=()&Location=fuel-vapour-system,,9F945 (https://www.fordpartsgiant.com/parts/ford-solenoid-asy_8g1z-9f945-a.html?Vin=1FAHP2KT6AG151697&Filter=()&Location=fuel-vapour-system,,9F945)
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: SHOdded on March 12, 2017, 12:15:52 AM
I am getting this for the purge valve for 2010-12
https://parts.levittownfordparts.com/oem-parts/ford-purge-control-valve-7u5z9c915d/

and the canister vent valve
https://parts.levittownfordparts.com/oem-parts/ford-vent-control-solenoid-8g1z9f945a/

Pulled using a 2011 SHO VIN    1FAHP2KT6BG130186
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: ZSHO on March 12, 2017, 04:22:34 PM
Quote from: JonSHO on March 10, 2017, 07:24:02 PM
Here's a photo of the purge valve with part #s. Looks different but maybe just an older version of the one ZSHO posted? I don't know but I'm glad I'm doing this and not some apathetic Ford mechanic.
I guess curiosity kills,lol and ended up taking mine apart and IMHO they indeed look pretty much identical.
It looks like you removed the Power and Port connector correct.? Z  Here's mine below for reference part number (8G1Z9F945A) hope this helps any. Z

(http://i.imgur.com/widuGDrh.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/Ben4Vqih.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/iHJRBAkh.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/zdoupTIh.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: JonSHO on March 12, 2017, 07:15:50 PM
Nice! Now we have 3 different Ford part #'s for the purge valve! LOL.

Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: JonSHO on March 12, 2017, 07:25:40 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on March 12, 2017, 04:22:34 PM
Quote from: JonSHO on March 10, 2017, 07:24:02 PM
Here's a photo of the purge valve with part #s. Looks different but maybe just an older version of the one ZSHO posted? I don't know but I'm glad I'm doing this and not some apathetic Ford mechanic.
I guess curiosity kills,lol and ended up taking mine apart and IMHO they indeed look pretty much identical.
It looks  like you removed the Power and Port connector correct.? Z  Here's mine below for reference,hope this helps any. Z

Thanks for taking the time to take photos of yours. I appreciate it.  Is that indeed DG1Z-9G271-B?

It is possible the purge valve on my car was replaced under warranty with the 2013 part. I'm the 2nd owner. I'm just suggesting that as a possibility to explain this confusion. It makes no sense that my car would have the 2013 purge valve. And further, if that IS the case, it means this is the 2nd time it has needed to be replaced. I don't know, just suspicious.


Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: ZSHO on March 12, 2017, 08:53:57 PM
Quote from: JonSHO on March 12, 2017, 07:25:40 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on March 12, 2017, 04:22:34 PM
Quote from: JonSHO on March 10, 2017, 07:24:02 PM
Here's a photo of the purge valve with part #s. Looks different but maybe just an older version of the one ZSHO posted? I don't know but I'm glad I'm doing this and not some apathetic Ford mechanic.
I guess curiosity kills,lol and ended up taking mine apart and IMHO they indeed look pretty much identical.
It looks  like you removed the Power and Port connector correct.? Z  Here's mine below for reference,hope this helps any. Z

Thanks for taking the time to take photos of yours. I appreciate it.  Is that indeed DG1Z-9G271-B?

It is possible the purge valve on my car was replaced under warranty with the 2013 part. I'm the 2nd owner. I'm just suggesting that as a possibility to explain this confusion. It makes no sense that my car would have the 2013 purge valve. And further, if that IS the case, it means this is the 2nd time it has needed to be replaced. I don't know, just suspicious.
It could be plausible that it's a new revised part especially if it was replaced under warranty   Z
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: JonSHO on March 19, 2017, 07:44:28 PM
Plot thickens. I finally went into my local Ford dealer and gave them the VIN, and was told the purge valve for the 2010 SHO is AA5Z-9G271-C for $154. Searched online, no photos of this part exist anywhere (description is "HOSE - CONNECTING"). I'm guessing though that this is the correct part but why the hell it would cost 5x more than the 2013 version? I'm going to order the one that resembles mine for $36 and see what happens. That DG1Z-9G271-B price must be a mistake. It seems to be the same part, connecting hose (without mention of the damn purge valve in the middle).
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: ZSHO on March 19, 2017, 08:08:10 PM
Quote from: JonSHO on March 19, 2017, 07:44:28 PM
Plot thickens. I finally went into my local Ford dealer and gave them the VIN, and was told the purge valve for the 2010 SHO is AA5Z-9G271-C for $154. Searched online, no photos of this part exist anywhere (description is "HOSE - CONNECTING"). I'm guessing though that this is the correct part but why the hell it would cost 5x more than the 2013 version? I'm going to order the one that resembles mine for $36 and see what happens. That DG1Z-9G271-B price must be a mistake. It seems to be the same part, connecting hose (without mention of the damn purge valve in the middle).
The DG1Z-9G271B which i ordered came as a complete (assembly) with the valve and connectors. Z
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: JonSHO on March 19, 2017, 08:32:19 PM
I might just take the valve out and use that if the hose connectors are different. Hopefully it'll work. Fingers crossed!
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: SHOdded on March 19, 2017, 08:43:56 PM
Good luck, I hope it works!
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: ZSHO on March 19, 2017, 09:16:19 PM
Here is my original valve and yours for comparison,hope it helps any. BTW ignore the BOV next to it. LOL. Z

                                         MINE
(http://i.imgur.com/tFRxJs5h.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/2StqNOph.jpg)
                                        YOURS
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: JonSHO on May 03, 2017, 07:52:42 PM
So, to conclude my addendum to this thread, after replacing the doohickey (long day...:P) and also the air filter, cleared the code, and it didn't come back, passed smog yesterday. Good to go.

The top hose (nearest firewall) did not fit so I had to use the old one. Bottom hose did fit so I used the new one. (referring to the Tasca replacement). 

$55 total cost with air filter. Vs $300+ at the Ford dealer. Thanks a bunch guys for this thread.

Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: SHOdded on May 03, 2017, 08:00:21 PM
Awesome sauce!  These codes can be really annoying to put to rest.  Thanks Z for the assist :thumb:
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: firewater88 on May 16, 2017, 06:04:08 PM
Thanks for this! I had been getting code P0456 for a while of and on, took to dealer a while back and they diagnosed it and wanted over $300 to fix. At least they didn't charge me for a diagnosis, since the just replaced the long block... Took the quote home and ordered the part number from Rock Auto, which was none of these listed and when it came in, I did a reverse search and find. It was the valve on the canister under the rear of the car. Still get the code now and then, especially when it sits on hot days.
Just looked under the hood and those pics match what i have! I was having issues finding the right part for my 2011 Flex EB too. I will order this part and see if that fixes it.
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: SHOdded on May 16, 2017, 06:11:57 PM
:thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: ZSHO on May 16, 2017, 07:09:41 PM
That's great to hear this thread is benefiting many members!  :)
It looks like the FLEX has the same exact part number as mine. Z
FYI the solenoid is a complete plug and play kit(unit) which consists of the Solenoid and Hose connectors.
VENT CONTROL SOLENOID - FORD (8G1Z-9F945-A)  54.74 ea.

https://parts.levittownfordparts.com/oem-parts/ford-vent-control-solenoid-8g1z9f945a/?c=Zz1lbWlzc2lvbi1zeXN0ZW0mcz1lbWlzc2lvbi1jb21wb25lbnRzJmk9TVQwOTE5NjUmcj0yJmE9Zm9yZCZvPWZsZXgmeT0yMDExJnQ9bGltaXRlZCZlPTMtNWwtdjYtZ2Fz (https://parts.levittownfordparts.com/oem-parts/ford-vent-control-solenoid-8g1z9f945a/?c=Zz1lbWlzc2lvbi1zeXN0ZW0mcz1lbWlzc2lvbi1jb21wb25lbnRzJmk9TVQwOTE5NjUmcj0yJmE9Zm9yZCZvPWZsZXgmeT0yMDExJnQ9bGltaXRlZCZlPTMtNWwtdjYtZ2Fz)

https://www.fordpartsgiant.com/parts/ford-solenoid-asy_8g1z-9f945-a.html?Make=Ford&Model=Flex&Year=2011&Submodel=&Filter=(30393;28765)&Location=fuel-vapour-system,,9F945B (https://www.fordpartsgiant.com/parts/ford-solenoid-asy_8g1z-9f945-a.html?Make=Ford&Model=Flex&Year=2011&Submodel=&Filter=(30393;28765)&Location=fuel-vapour-system,,9F945B)
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: firewater88 on May 16, 2017, 09:28:32 PM
https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2011,flex,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1446490,exhaust+&+emission,vapor+canister+vent+valve+/+solenoid,16992

This is the one I put on my Flex last fall. Easy to change, once I found it.

I ordered the one from tasca parts listed here, also got a small body trim part I needed.
Thanks again

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Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: firewater88 on May 20, 2017, 08:35:19 PM
Part came in today. Upon quick visual inspection, all looked great. Pulled old one off and snaked the new one in. Didn't fit the rear port. Pulled out and compared to original. Rear tube on stock is bigger and has different size connector on end. Front side fit on port, but had about an inch extra tube and a very slightly different bend, so it doesn't sit super pretty. The rear tube has a quick connect at bother ends so swapped out to stock tube. Valve is the exact same, so hopefully that is the part that is bad. Front tube is molded onto the valve so it had to stay.

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Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: avidmotion on June 06, 2017, 11:20:07 PM
I have a 2013+pp mine was replaced under warranty,  bought used 35,500 miles, surged, stalled......fine since replacement. Not sure why it failed.
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: ZSHO on July 27, 2017, 10:47:50 AM
If any member is in need of a NEW OEM FUEL LINE TUBE 3.5L 2013-2014 FORD EXPLORER FLEX TAURUS LINCOLN MKS MKT Part number (DG1Z9G271B) which is a complete assembly with
VMV Valve and connectors included for 46.22 ea with Free shipping.  Z.

46.22 ea with Free shipping

(http://i.imgur.com/XNzhC3fh.jpg?2)

DG1Z9G271B
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-OEM-FUEL-LINE-TUBE-3-5L-2013-2014-FORD-EXPLORER-FLEX-TAURUS-LINCOLN-MKS-MKT-/361884140203?hash=item5441f9c2ab:g:dSIAAOSwopRYgM0u&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-OEM-FUEL-LINE-TUBE-3-5L-2013-2014-FORD-EXPLORER-FLEX-TAURUS-LINCOLN-MKS-MKT-/361884140203?hash=item5441f9c2ab:g:dSIAAOSwopRYgM0u&vxp=mtr)
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: jchaase on July 30, 2017, 11:27:27 PM
Hey folks - 2011 SHO here... got a P0455 and P0457. Tried the tips from the Ford mechanic video on YouTube... did the fuel fill area compressed air cleaning, the funnel abuse, and the wipe-down. Cleared codes, came back relatively quickly.

Ordered the part from Rock Auto, and lo and behold it's the wrong one, as clearly identified in this thread. Not sure if that Dorman 911-281 exists somewhere on the car, but it's definitely not under the hood from what I can tell.

So now that I popped the engine cover and found the little bugger which all have graciously posted pictures of, any tips on removing the hoses? I'll likely be ordering the part from Tasca - but some are saying hoses are too long/too short, so I want to ensure I don't mangle them while removing in case they need to be reused.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: ZSHO on July 31, 2017, 07:19:26 AM
The correct part number should be DG1Z9G271B .
I would always disconnect the harness power connector prior to removal.

To remove the connector (gently) push the connector inwards so the other side of the connector will come loose and pop out. Z
I found using a stubby flathead screw-driver to be ideal.

FYI -Don't be a Gorilla while handling these vapor lines while instead using extra precaution is advised.
Best of luck and keep us updated.  Z

(http://i.imgur.com/ucW5iIAh.jpg?2)
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: stpolo on May 02, 2018, 10:48:15 AM
Hey jchaase, did the new VCP valve part no. DG1Z9G271B work with removing the codes you were receiving?  I'm constantly getting the P0455 and P0457 codes. 
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: ZSHO on May 26, 2018, 04:26:53 PM
It looks like www.rockauto (http://www.rockauto) has an alternative Vapor canister purge valve . Z

STANDARD MOTOR PRODUCTS CP826     $35.79


https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=9484992&cc=1503823&jsn=599&jsn=599 (https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=9484992&cc=1503823&jsn=599&jsn=599)

https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,exhaust+&+emission,vapor+canister+purge+valve+/+solenoid,4936 (https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,exhaust+&+emission,vapor+canister+purge+valve+/+solenoid,4936)

http://ecatalog.smpcorp.com/STD/ (http://ecatalog.smpcorp.com/STD/)

(https://i.imgur.com/Gkq6lzzh.jpg)
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: stpolo on June 25, 2018, 01:32:41 PM
Thanks ZSHO for this post!  I ordered the part from Tasca and it fit perfectly.  It's been about a month now and no more check engine light or "Check Fuel Fill Inlet" message. 
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: ZSHO on June 25, 2018, 03:05:50 PM
Quote from: stpolo on June 25, 2018, 01:32:41 PM
Thanks ZSHO for this post!  I ordered the part from Tasca and it fit perfectly.  It's been about a month now and no more check engine light or "Check Fuel Fill Inlet" message.
Cool Beans! Glad this thread was some assistance.  Z   :)
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: ogp on March 11, 2019, 09:47:24 AM
Quote from: ZSHO on May 26, 2018, 04:26:53 PM
It looks like www.rockauto (http://www.rockauto) has an alternative Vapor canister purge valve . Z

STANDARD MOTOR PRODUCTS CP826     $35.79


https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=9484992&cc=1503823&jsn=599&jsn=599 (https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=9484992&cc=1503823&jsn=599&jsn=599)

https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,exhaust+&+emission,vapor+canister+purge+valve+/+solenoid,4936 (https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,exhaust+&+emission,vapor+canister+purge+valve+/+solenoid,4936)

http://ecatalog.smpcorp.com/STD/ (http://ecatalog.smpcorp.com/STD/)

(https://i.imgur.com/Gkq6lzzh.jpg)

I just wanted to circle back around and say that I recently bought this part from RockAuto, swapped it out in like 10 minutes, cleared the error and it hasn't come back. Before when I'd clear the error it'd come back after driving just a few minutes. So I guess it had gone bad, even though the test seemed to indicate otherwise. Oh well, cheap fix! Thanks again!
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: ZSHO on March 12, 2019, 06:57:31 AM
Quote from: ogp on March 11, 2019, 09:47:24 AM
Quote from: ZSHO on May 26, 2018, 04:26:53 PM
It looks like www.rockauto (http://www.rockauto) has an alternative Vapor canister purge valve . Z

STANDARD MOTOR PRODUCTS CP826     $35.79

STANDARD MOTOR PRODUCTS CP826 DG1Z9G271B

https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=9484992&cc=1503823&jsn=599&jsn=599 (https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=9484992&cc=1503823&jsn=599&jsn=599)

https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,exhaust+&+emission,vapor+canister+purge+valve+/+solenoid,4936 (https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,exhaust+&+emission,vapor+canister+purge+valve+/+solenoid,4936)

http://ecatalog.smpcorp.com/STD/ (http://ecatalog.smpcorp.com/STD/)

(https://i.imgur.com/Gkq6lzzh.jpg)

I just wanted to circle back around and say that I recently bought this part from RockAuto, swapped it out in like 10 minutes, cleared the error and it hasn't come back. Before when I'd clear the error it'd come back after driving just a few minutes. So I guess it had gone bad, even though the test seemed to indicate otherwise. Oh well, cheap fix! Thanks again!
Good news is always welcomed Enjoy.  Z  :)
BTW-It seems the prices have dropped a bit to $30.89 ea

STANDARD MOTOR PRODUCTS CP826 DG1Z9G271B

https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=9484992&cc=1503823&jsn=599&jsn=599 (https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=9484992&cc=1503823&jsn=599&jsn=599)

https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,exhaust+&+emission,vapor+canister+purge+valve+/+solenoid,4936 (https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,exhaust+&+emission,vapor+canister+purge+valve+/+solenoid,4936)
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: x77x on April 24, 2019, 09:43:23 AM
hey guys, just wanted to chime in here...

the DG1Z-9G271-B  STANDARD MOTOR PRODUCTS CP826

does NOT work on a 2011 Lincoln MKS 3.5 ecoboost

the rear end of the female hose connection is too small....

i managed to seperate the hose in the middle and make it work, but id still like to find the correct one for the lincoln...

the part number i got off the old half of the tube is AA53-9G271-AJ

(http://escanabasucks.com/junk/AA539G271AJ.jpg)

someone have some ideas where to find the correct Lincoln version?
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: SHOdded on April 24, 2019, 10:15:08 AM
You might need this part for the MKS
AA5Z-9G271-C
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-OEM-FUEL-CONNECTING-HOSE-2010-2012-LINCOLN-MKS-MKT-FLEX-TAURUS-3-5L-TURBO-V6/362539009093 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-OEM-FUEL-CONNECTING-HOSE-2010-2012-LINCOLN-MKS-MKT-FLEX-TAURUS-3-5L-TURBO-V6/362539009093)
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: x77x on April 24, 2019, 10:22:46 AM
great... the expensive one...


yah on the original lincoln one, the rear port is larger (AA53-9G271-AJ)



hmmmmm funny, this looks like the other half i need....
https://www.tascaparts.com/oem-parts/ford-hose-connecting-bb5z9g271c (https://www.tascaparts.com/oem-parts/ford-hose-connecting-bb5z9g271c)
wonder if you can buy the 2 hoses seperate  (since the whole assembly is 2 connected hoses)

Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: ZSHO on April 24, 2019, 01:27:32 PM
Quote from: x77x on April 24, 2019, 09:43:23 AM
hey guys, just wanted to chime in here...

the DG1Z-9G271-B  STANDARD MOTOR PRODUCTS CP826

does NOT work on a 2011 Lincoln MKS 3.5 ecoboost

one end of the hose clips is too small....

i managed to seperate the hose in the middle and make it work, but id still like to find the correct one for the lincoln...

the part number i got off the old half of the tube is AA53-9G271-AJ

(http://escanabasucks.com/junk/AA539G271AJ.jpg)

someone have some ideas where to find the correct Lincoln version?
Welcome aboard! I think you can purchase the
Fuel Line Retainer Clips Seperate IIRC!
Need to Confirm the correct size.
3/8" -etc.
Due setup an Intro @ your earliest convenience. TIA. Z

https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/board,14.0.html (https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/board,14.0.html)


https://www.amazon.com/Ford-Fuel-Line-Retainer-Clips/dp/B0040D2NYY/ref=mp_s_a_1_fkmrnull_1?keywords=25+Ford+Fuel+Line+Retainer+Clips+For+3%2F8 (https://www.amazon.com/Ford-Fuel-Line-Retainer-Clips/dp/B0040D2NYY/ref=mp_s_a_1_fkmrnull_1?keywords=25+Ford+Fuel+Line+Retainer+Clips+For+3%2F8)

(https://i.imgur.com/zSlHHLam.jpg)
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: x77x on April 24, 2019, 03:50:52 PM
i meant the rear female end of the hose was too small (DG1Z9G271B)... its bigger on the original lincoln one

but i did manage to break a clip... on the rear one, theres 2 clips on the same female connection... and of course they are 2 dif sizes...

Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: FiveLeeter918 on June 06, 2019, 12:15:59 PM
Hey guys, been dealing with the P0455 and P0457 codes for a few months now and came across this post doing research. Right now I can clear the codes and they come back on after 100 miles of driving. Had someone mention the purge valve so I started searching and found this.

I followed the test procedure detailed on page 2, and I'm not getting suction with or without the electrical connector in place. When I pull the yellow clip on the manifold, I am getting lots of suction, so does that mean the purge valve is bad?

2013 Taurus SHO.
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: ZSHO on June 06, 2019, 12:46:08 PM
Quote from: FiveLeeter918 on June 06, 2019, 12:15:59 PM
Hey guys, been dealing with the P0455 and P0457 codes for a few months now and came across this post doing research. Right now I can clear the codes and they come back on after 100 miles of driving. Had someone mention the purge valve so I started searching and found this.

I followed the test procedure detailed on page 2, and I'm not getting suction with or without the electrical connector in place. When I pull the yellow clip on the manifold, I am getting lots of suction, so does that mean the purge valve is bad?

2013 Taurus SHO.
It sounds like the Vapor solenoid is stuck in the closed position and would order a new solenoid for a peace of mind especially being an emission related component. Z
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: FiveLeeter918 on June 06, 2019, 01:41:39 PM
yea ordered one and it'll be here tomorrow. just wondering if it's stuck closed if it would register as a leak or if my search continues...
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: ZSHO on June 06, 2019, 02:49:20 PM
Quote from: FiveLeeter918 on June 06, 2019, 01:41:39 PM
yea ordered one and it'll be here tomorrow. just wondering if it's stuck closed if it would register as a leak or if my search continues...
If the Solenoid is stuck closed it would suggest it has failed electronically and would emitt a P0-455 code IIRC! Z
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: SHOdded on June 06, 2019, 03:53:52 PM
If you vacuum tested the purge valve and it did not hold vacuum, the purge valve has failed.
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: SM105K on June 07, 2019, 11:09:05 AM
At least your vapor canister purge valve doesn't distort the fuel tank, which in turn can cause the car to stall at any time under a half tank of gas and cause accidents.  This issue caused a massive recall in the Focus world.  Having an ST get shafted twice because its an ST and I have Ford's Performance Calibration.  This is what the service manager told me about me inquiry to the recall work. 

"At this time, Ford cannot physically fix the recalled issue because they "don't have the parts or the software update for the ST". So I am regulated to put fuel in my car every third day and keep it above a half tank to ensure safe operation.  They said a fix would come out in Q1 of 2019, yet it is June and nothing.   
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: ZSHO on June 07, 2019, 01:04:45 PM
Quote from: SM105K on June 07, 2019, 11:09:05 AM
At least your vapor canister purge valve doesn't distort the fuel tank, which in turn can cause the car to stall at any time under a half tank of gas and cause accidents.  This issue caused a massive recall in the Focus world.  Having an ST get shafted twice because its an ST and I have Ford's Performance Calibration.  This is what the service manager told me about me inquiry to the recall work. 

"At this time, Ford cannot physically fix the recalled issue because they "don't have the parts or the software update for the ST". So I am regulated to put fuel in my car every third day and keep it above a half tank to ensure safe operation.  They said a fix would come out in Q1 of 2019, yet it is June and nothing.
I hope they come out with permanant viable fix soon! Don't need the Gas tank imploding! Z
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: SM105K on June 07, 2019, 01:13:29 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on June 07, 2019, 01:04:45 PM
Quote from: SM105K on June 07, 2019, 11:09:05 AM
At least your vapor canister purge valve doesn't distort the fuel tank, which in turn can cause the car to stall at any time under a half tank of gas and cause accidents.  This issue caused a massive recall in the Focus world.  Having an ST get shafted twice because its an ST and I have Ford's Performance Calibration.  This is what the service manager told me about me inquiry to the recall work. 

"At this time, Ford cannot physically fix the recalled issue because they "don't have the parts or the software update for the ST". So I am regulated to put fuel in my car every third day and keep it above a half tank to ensure safe operation.  They said a fix would come out in Q1 of 2019, yet it is June and nothing.
I hope they come out with permanant viable fix soon! Don't need the Gas tank imploding! Z

It makes my head hurt, but what can I do.  I love my ST, but COME ON MAN!
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: FiveLeeter918 on June 12, 2019, 10:38:24 AM
UPDATE: Replaced the purge valve and lines Saturday, as of yet no CEL :)
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: SHOdded on June 12, 2019, 10:58:00 AM
Yay :D
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: 2010Limited on August 21, 2019, 08:56:35 PM
I have 2010 Flex eco boost and have been getting the check fuel filler message and CEL for a small leak. Today I got the p0455 for a large leak. Can you guys tell me which vapor canister purge valve I should order? There's a ton of part #'s in this thread.
Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: SHOdded on August 22, 2019, 02:45:11 AM
Yours is a 2010, this thread may still be of help
https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,7133.0.html (https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,7133.0.html)

ZSHO will know for sure!
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: ZSHO on August 22, 2019, 07:02:35 AM
Quote from: 2010Limited on August 21, 2019, 08:56:35 PM
I have 2010 Flex eco boost and have been getting the check fuel filler message and CEL for a small leak. Today I got the p0455 for a large leak. Can you guys tell me which vapor canister purge valve I should order? There's a ton of part #'s in this thread.
Thanks in advance
Do you have a PIC of the stock valve! Pm me a link if needed. 

This should be the correct part for your vehicle but sometimes it can be confusing especially for the 2010MY!! Z

Ford Part No - 8G1Z-9F945-A
Solenoid Assembly

https://www.fordpartsgiant.com/parts/ford-solenoid-asy_8g1z-9f945-a.html?Make=Ford&Model=Flex&Year=2010&Submodel=&Filter=(30393)&Location=fuel-vapor-system,,9F945B (https://www.fordpartsgiant.com/parts/ford-solenoid-asy_8g1z-9f945-a.html?Make=Ford&Model=Flex&Year=2010&Submodel=&Filter=(30393)&Location=fuel-vapor-system,,9F945B)
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: 2010Limited on August 22, 2019, 07:04:30 AM
I'll get a pic of the stock one asap


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Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: 2010Limited on August 22, 2019, 07:55:05 AM
Here is mine - (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190822/2a475403b2d23a13fdffd67f909b450a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190822/6f1f017cb710c22a11766e6ff082b53f.jpg)


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Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: SHOdded on August 22, 2019, 08:03:15 AM
I thing 8G1Z-9F945-A is the canister VENT solenoid, no?  Usually the base number for the PURGE solenoid is 9G271, but it may be different ...

AA5Z-9G271-C

Shows as discontinued, is listed as a hose assembly

[img height=300 Width=300]https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7133.0;attach=21372;image[/img]

Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: ZSHO on August 22, 2019, 08:13:54 AM
I think you might have to use ONE of the existing stock Hose connectors in order to fit! Z
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: SHOdded on August 22, 2019, 08:17:16 AM
Pull off the purge valve and let's see what Ford stamped on that part.  Might be helpful, might not ...  With any luck we can find that valve separately.
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: 2010Limited on August 22, 2019, 08:18:21 AM
Quote from: ZSHO on August 22, 2019, 08:13:54 AM
I think you might have to use ONE of the existing stock Hose connectors in order to fit! Z
I think I read somewhere in this thread that one of the hoses was wrong and the poster had to re-use one hose. On rockauto it didn't appear it came with either hose.


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Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: SHOdded on August 22, 2019, 08:26:18 AM
Rockauto has the wrong part listed for the EB, that is a valve used on the naturally aspirated 3.5
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: 2010Limited on August 22, 2019, 09:54:23 AM
The dealer does not sell just the vent valve.
My cost with my account is $127!
Tasha sells it for $87


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Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: SHOdded on August 22, 2019, 09:59:13 AM
Coupon Code AUG5 for Tasca
Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: 2010Limited on August 22, 2019, 10:47:51 AM
Is there a way to test that valve?


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Title: Re: Vapor Canister Purge Valve!!
Post by: SHOdded on August 22, 2019, 06:16:56 PM
Normally if you pull a vacuum on it for 5 min or more and it does not hold, the valve is faulty.

The basic test goes like this, skip to 6:30 or so if not watching the whole video
https://youtu.be/VLg1PEpFfsU

https://youtu.be/VLg1PEpFfsU
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