How do I narrow it down ?
Has anyone had issues with sway bar end links, half shaft, wheel bearing ??
Its coming from the passenger side, slight clicking from the right front going over bumps, and while turning.
I'm at 123k miles.
Have you ever changed your hubs & thrust washer's ? if so changing out your outer tie rods in addition to the hubs,washers will provide a more certain fix and IMHO would do both sides. TSB Below .Z
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8JUL90DXgdiQlZKd29scTd0eUU/view
^ solid advice. I assume the halfshaft recall check has been completed. Also check the strut/strut mount on that side.
Get under the car with a pry bar and start checking things outs.
Check the control arm bushings. There are two bushings on each control arm. One is replaceable and the other one isn't. Check for rips in the rubber or any play.
Check the sway bar bushings. Mine are worn and there's a little clunking under there under bumps. I'm actually about to replace both of mine in about an hour or two. Check the end links while you're looking at the sway bushings.
Check the tie rod ends for play.
Check the struts for oil leaks.
Quote from: ZSHO on January 23, 2017, 06:49:14 AM
Have you ever changed your hubs & thrust washer's ? if so changing out your outer tie rods in addition to the hubs,washers will provide a more certain fix and IMHO would do both sides. TSB Below .Z
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8JUL90DXgdiQlZKd29scTd0eUU/view
I am actually having similar sounds... Its at full lock turning, I hear clunking as I turn.
I replaced the sway bar end links last month due to the metallic clicking over bumps. couldn't duplicate the noise driving in circles or side to side. When I jacked up the car and grabbed the end links, moving them up and down I could reproduce the sound on the passenger side, fixed the problem.
Mine sounds almost like there is a flat spot in the tire feeling as you turn. Hope its not catastrophic...
I have kinda thought it might be related to the sway bar as my car seems also to lean a little more in curves. Not sure if that would also be that noticeable if the sway bar bushings / end link are worn. Could be worn struts also. My SHO still runs hard so I just want to fix this up and keep on driving her hard :)
I can personally vouch for the difference new swaybar end links make leaning into corners. VERY noticeable.
Quote from: SHOdded on January 24, 2017, 10:19:16 PM
I can personally vouch for the difference new swaybar end links make leaning into corners. VERY noticeable.
link for endlinks?
Stock Endlinks for the Edge, no performance aftermarket stuff :) In my case, one had broken, the other was on its' way out.
My 2014 SHO has 25k miles and I hear a rubber/plastic-like popping noise when turning or moving in a circle at slow speeds in forward and reverse.
Does this sound like CV joints or sway bar end-links? Car feels and handles fine other than the noise. I don't always hear the noise either. It seems the more moisture there is or the colder it is, the more noticeable it is.
Quote from: metroplex on January 27, 2017, 02:19:45 PM
My 2014 SHO has 25k miles and I hear a rubber/plastic-like popping noise when turning or moving in a circle at slow speeds in forward and reverse.
Does this sound like CV joints or sway bar end-links? Car feels and handles fine other than the noise. I don't always hear the noise either. It seems the more moisture there is or the colder it is, the more noticeable it is.
Get the car off of the ground on jack stands and remove the tires. Grab the end links and shake them. If there's play or clicking, replace them. Also inspect the balls joints on the end links. I believe there's one on top and one at the bottom of each end link. Check for rips.
Same goes for the CV joints. Inspect for leaks or rips in the rubber housing.
In my experience with cars in general, bad ball joints seem to get noisier as the weather gets colder.
It also makes the sound when I am turning the wheel all the way left/right while stopped. I've had bad ball joints before and it was a nasty grinding sound. This sounds like a plastic/rubber rubbing sound.
Just replaced my end links last night due to a noise while going over bumps. I settled on the end link as the issue because of a torn boot on the side that was making the noise. I replaced them with Moog's, big difference and no noise.
Scott, did you hear the noise while turning the steering when stopped?
I looked at the Motorcraft replacement endlinks for my SHO, and the rears look like they already use the THK ball links that Powergrid also uses:
http://www.powergridinc.com/thk.asp (http://www.powergridinc.com/thk.asp)
But the stock front endlinks look like the ones that typically leak and fail. I'm thinking about Powergrids but I was wondering if anyone else used them on their SHO? They aren't the cheapest, and I never liked adjusting them all that much on my Cobalt SS Turbo.
Ford uses THK links on some applications, like the front endlinks for the GT500 that are also backwards compatible with all 05-14 S197 Mustangs. I swapped out my Mustang GT's stock fronts for the GT500 links and even Chip from Powergrid said that it would be a noticeable difference.
Its was mainly slow driving over any degree of bumps. You don't typically get noise from the end links while turning the wheels with the car stopped. I did turn the steering wheel back and forth very quickly while the car was running but stopped with the door open and thought I could hear it, but it could have just been some play in the steering column. You would get the noise from the wheel moving up and down not really side to side.
I think I snapped the passenger side front link. I posted the pic in your other thread. I also posted some questions about the removal/install process.
Quote from: ZSHO on January 23, 2017, 06:49:14 AM
Have you ever changed your hubs & thrust washer's ? if so changing out your outer tie rods in addition to the hubs,washers will provide a more certain fix and IMHO would do both sides. TSB Below .Z
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8JUL90DXgdiQlZKd29scTd0eUU/view
I installed the Powergrid endlinks and it didn't get rid of the popping noise. It is only coming from the passenger side. I isolated to a sound towards the bottom of the car, it isn't the strut or strut mount.
Do you have more details on the thrust washers needed for the above TSB? My SHO was assembled right after the cut-off for the recall of axles falling out of the transmission/PTU. But this popping/clicking/clunking sound can be heard when quickly jerking the wheel at a full stop, or jerking the steering wheel at low speeds in forward/reverse.
Quote from: metroplex on April 04, 2017, 08:12:15 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on January 23, 2017, 06:49:14 AM
Have you ever changed your hubs & thrust washer's ? if so changing out your outer tie rods in addition to the hubs,washers will provide a more certain fix and IMHO would do both sides. TSB Below .Z
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8JUL90DXgdiQlZKd29scTd0eUU/view (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8JUL90DXgdiQlZKd29scTd0eUU/view)
I installed the Powergrid endlinks and it didn't get rid of the popping noise. It is only coming from the passenger side. I isolated to a sound towards the bottom of the car, it isn't the strut or strut mount.
Do you have more details on the thrust washers needed for the above TSB? My SHO was assembled right after the cut-off for the recall of axles falling out of the transmission/PTU. But this popping/clicking/clunking sound can be heard when quickly jerking the wheel at a full stop, or jerking the steering wheel at low speeds in forward/reverse.
If its a metal clicking/Tinging sound you are hearing you will need to replace the thrust washer's and hubs Aka(wheel bearings)mentioned on TSB referenced above.
Here are some pics followed by part numbers pertaining to your NON-PP SHO,hope this helps any and due LMK. Z
THRUST WASHER - FORD (BB5Z-7G273-B)http://www.tascaparts.com/oe-ford/bb5z7g273b (http://www.tascaparts.com/oe-ford/bb5z7g273b)
(http://i.imgur.com/c6sma7Hh.jpg)
HUBShttp://www.tascaparts.com/ford/taurus/bt4z1104b/2013-year/sho-trim/3-5l-v6-gas-engine/front-suspension-cat/front-suspension-scat/?part_name=front- (http://www.tascaparts.com/ford/taurus/bt4z1104b/2013-year/sho-trim/3-5l-v6-gas-engine/front-suspension-cat/front-suspension-scat/?part_name=front-)
(http://i.imgur.com/Awr8F7dh.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/k92h8GVh.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/kcAUPlgh.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/UYKMhOih.jpg)(http://[img%20width=168%20height=300]http://i.imgur.com/Awr8F7dh.jpg)[/img](http://i.imgur.com/z6Pzjdbh.png)
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I would verify fitment at www.fordparts.com (http://www.fordparts.com) by entering your vin number. Z
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8JUL90DXgdiQlZKd29scTd0eUU/view (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8JUL90DXgdiQlZKd29scTd0eUU/view)
I need to have someone else turn the wheel while I listen more closely, but I'm 99% sure the sound is not from the strut tower or top part. It seems to originate from the lower part of the vehicle.
While the car is parked and engine running, quickly turning the steering wheel left/right will cause a "clunk" sound from the right front wheel. While the car is moving (at under 20 mph), if I make a right turn there will be a metal grinding/groaning sound anytime there is steering input. Throttle input doesn't have an impact on it.
When taking off from a stop, there's no ting/click/pop as long as the wheel is straight.
Is the 2008 similar to the 2013-up?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z54PVXuCO6U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z54PVXuCO6U)
It looks like the wheel hub comes right off instead of needing to be pressed on. The FSM also says to remove the tie rod nut, ball joint nub, etc... to get to the thrust washer, but this guy just basically took it off via the wheel hub.
So what is the problem? Did the 2013-up not have a thrust washer?
Quote from: metroplex on April 05, 2017, 04:22:45 PM
Is the 2008 similar to the 2013-up?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z54PVXuCO6U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z54PVXuCO6U)
It looks like the wheel hub comes right off instead of needing to be pressed on. The FSM also says to remove the tie rod nut, ball joint nub, etc... to get to the thrust washer, but this guy just basically took it off via the wheel hub.
So what is the problem? Did the 2013-up not have a thrust washer?
There is a video i posted above which is in reference to the 13 Taurus/explorer and correct that just the wheel Hub needs to be removed in order to get to the thrust washer.
Its from my understanding that over time the lack of grease and play,wear on the front end causes the washer to make a clicking noise even when sitting down on your vehicle from personal experience. Z
So we all have the thrust washer pre-installed at the factory and it just wears out? Or are we adding a thrust washer? Is this even something to be concerned about in the long term?
Where is the video you posted?
Quote from: metroplex on April 05, 2017, 05:44:58 PM
So we all have the thrust washer pre-installed at the factory and it just wears out? Or are we adding a thrust washer? Is this even something to be concerned about in the long term?
Where is the video you posted?
Correct they all come with a pre-installed washers and wear out over time just like your end links.
The washers are a few bucks a piece and should be okay until summer. Z
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Would it wear out in under 30k miles?
Quote from: metroplex on April 05, 2017, 06:20:02 PM
Would it wear out in under 30k miles?
It happened to me twice in under 30k and nothing is bullet proof.
http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,4361.msg68606.html#msg68606 (http://www.ecoboostperformance
http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,5382.msg86348.html#msg86348 (http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,5382.msg86348.html#msg86348)
Ok that's definitely not the sound I'm hearing. I stood outside the wheel and had someone turn the steering rapidly, and I heard nothing outside of the car. I think it is just the EPAS motor. Now when the car is moving and I'm turning the wheel, I hear that groaning/rubbing sound, like a plastic/rubber part that "pops" and groans.
Can you locate it to outside the car vs in the steering column. At least one reported case of the issue being within the column.
I can 100% confirm it isn't coming from the steering column. When parked, the sound I hear comes from behind/under the firewall/floorboard on the passenger footwell - but is not audible when standing outside the car by the right wheel.
When moving slowly, the sound is coming from the same area but only on the right wheel.
Did you ever figure out what the sound was?