I acquired a 2014 fusion titanium AWD 2.0 ecoboost with 30k miles. This replaced the F150 that I had..I never really liked trucks and tried to make myself love it but I couldn't...I can get a small trailer for the Kia and it will do all I need it to...The Fusion is actually really nice. And surprisingly the wheel base is about the same as the SHO and length is only down about 10"...Interior feels about the same but the trunk is maybe a little smaller...I love having an AWD car for a daily driver.
I dropped a K & N filter in it and NGK 6510 plugs which are 1 range cooler...Will be renting a dyno this winter to complete the tuning results after I finish street tuning...The car is really peppy but lacks the V6 torque of the 3.5 and other V6's
I also added a full set of Putco LED head lights low and high beam and fog lights as well as some Husky floor liners that seem just as nice as weather techs but a bit cheaper.
I had to pull the bumper to do the lights and Ford put a cover over half of the intercooler so that came off. It actually works pretty well as it's a front mount that is actually in the front, imagine that.
There is also a snorkel from the airbox that draws air from the grill...I removed the top portion so it's not drawing air through the smallest part of the snorkel so to me It's a true cold air kit no need for an upgrade.
Changed all fluids to amsoil signature. RDU, PTU, trans, oil. I will at some point add a CPE downpipe and a boost gauge. I have a good place picked out below the radio controls in that goofy pass through.
The front rotors were warped and only 11.8". So I contacted Brian at Fastbrakes.com who I got a front big brake kit from before for my Honda. In about a month he made the bracket and kit which is wilwood 4 pistion calipers and stainless lines. I told him I wanted to use rotors from the 2016 focus ST so parts would be easy for me to source. and match the hub size and bolt pattern and they are 13.2". I loaded the fronts with EBC bluestuff race pads and in the rear yellow stuff...it's a pretty serious setup and I like it so far.
I've never seen a fusion with these wheels and I think it's really sharp...235/40/19..The handling is very crisp and in the spring I think I can fit 255mm wide tires there so it should be pretty grippy.
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Stock this car would run about 11-15 psi. I didn't waste much time and did a 93 oct pump tune that peaks about 20 psi but boost tapers to about 15 at redline. The turbos are small and can't really provide the boost up top..I quickly moved to E30 and that is getting me about 8 degrees over my 93 tune.
I took it to Keystone raceway and ran 13.89 at 98 mph. I was hoping for mid 13's but it was about 75 degrees so for end of December that was pretty warm.
JUst like the 2.7 and 3.0 ecoboosts it appears that E85 will not be a problem so I'd like to see if it will handle the same boost on that fuel...Also like those other engines the FFV logic can be activated....So dyno time is planned for December so we will see how it goes.
Already got some winter wheels and tires from Tire rack so those will go on at Thanksgiving.
All you SHO people don't take the torque for granted..You will miss it...The small turbos on the 3.5 really do give amazing torque.
I'm hoping to get near 300whp and 350 wtq on E30 but I'm guessing at this point...I'll update after dyno
Here is the before and after on what I did to the snorkel..It's under the top of the bumper and the snorkel had little holes in it but the end was reduced down so I took the top off so it's not sucking through the hole at the end..Can't really see it but there is an opening by the hood latch so it's drawing all the air from the grill near the a/c condenser.
I see no point in buying an aftermarket cold air kit...Drop a filter and do this and you are good.
Very nice! I do wish you had the time to do some 2.0EB tuning for the Edge folks, gen 1.5 and above!
Nice! Best of luck with the new Fusion. Z
Btw Lmk if you want me to fix sum pics for ya.
Very nice!
Love the BBK! That is an impressive upgrade. Brian has/is helping me with brakes for our Honda Fit :) He's the man.
Awesome! How are the shifts with the 2.0....quick and firm like a tuned SHO...or a bit more lazy like we have seen with 3.0 and 2.7 transverse models?
I am looking forward to what you come up with for the fusion. I really regret not getting AWD when I dailied my fusion. Such a powerful little engine. And those stock wheels look marvelous too
Awesome man. I always thought the Fusion was a really sharp looking car. How are the LED headlights? I'm a sucker for quality lighting, lol. Been thinking of going to LED on my car, but I've always been wary of changing from the factory set up.
The putco silver lux LED lights are a premium light and they are awesome ..i wouldn't buy them if I had HID lights but the 14' titanium didn't have those so i was forced to go led
No the shifts are not as firm as the sho they aren't bad but the gearing is so short the converter seems like it doesn't have enough time to fully lock
Im only at 28 , 50 , 75 for the first 3 gears ...the awd ecoboost fusion has a 3.36 final drive all other fusions have a less aggressive final drive
Quote from: AJP turbo on November 05, 2017, 12:04:10 PM
Stock this car would run about 11-15 psi. I didn't waste much time and did a 93 oct pump tune that peaks about 20 psi but boost tapers to about 15 at redline. The turbos are small and can't really provide the boost up top..I quickly moved to E30 and that is getting me about 8 degrees over my 93 tune.
I took it to Keystone raceway and ran 13.89 at 98 mph. I was hoping for mid 13's but it was about 75 degrees so for end of December that was pretty warm.
JUst like the 2.7 and 3.0 ecoboosts it appears that E85 will not be a problem so I'd like to see if it will handle the same boost on that fuel...Also like those other engines the FFV logic can be activated....So dyno time is planned for December so we will see how it goes.
Already got some winter wheels and tires from Tire rack so those will go on at Thanksgiving.
All you SHO people don't take the torque for granted..You will miss it...The small turbos on the 3.5 really do give amazing torque.
I'm hoping to get near 300whp and 350 wtq on E30 but I'm guessing at this point...I'll update after dyno
QuoteThe turbos are small and can't really provide the boost up top
Plural???
Nice car. Don't forget to update your sig line.
Quote from: SilvererSHO on November 06, 2017, 06:01:57 PM
Quote from: AJP turbo on November 05, 2017, 12:04:10 PM
QuoteThe turbos are small and can't really provide the boost up top
Plural???
Nice car. Don't forget to update your sig line.
Came out wrong, I meant all the turbos in the fusion line are small just like every other ecoboost. But yes a single turbo in the 2.0 Fusion.
Yeah I'm having sig line fail lol
Nice! Anxious to hear how your dyno time end up.
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Sweet Brad.
How come you gave up the SHO awhile back?
Now i see why I don't get email reply's back, your too busy on here lol. Jk man, I know I'm like 1 0f 100+ people you probably get emails from on a weekly basis. Since your Tuning the Fusion now, you should be able to translate that for ST and Escape Titnsium owners since the power train is bacially the same.
Quote from: Joeyfuzz911 on November 11, 2017, 01:14:26 PM
Sweet Brad.
How come you gave up the SHO awhile back?
Now i see why I don't get email reply's back, your too busy on here lol. Jk man, I know I'm like 1 0f 100+ people you probably get emails from on a weekly basis. Since your Tuning the Fusion now, you should be able to translate that for ST and Escape Titnsium owners since the power train is bacially the same.
Basically kind of needed a truck so a 4 door F150 was going to double as a family vehicle and give me another ecoboost engine to do my own R & D on since the 2.7 was a bit of a rare bird for tuning..I quickly got bored and fell out of love driving an empty truck on a daily basis as I never was excited about driving a truck.
Wanted a car again and to save a bit of money stepped into the fusion and I could buy a small trailer for the wife's car to do what the truck needed to do since I only haul light loads and don't tow anyway.
So now I can do 2.0 ecoboosts. And yea that is also the idea so now I can tune focus, and other 2.0 ecoboost cars and have one in my hands do test first hand....I've already tuned a few friends focus ST's and they seem to run well so now with my fusion I will be able to get some dyno time at some point and put some numbers to the tune.
And yes juggling emails in a timely manner is a new thing for me so I try to only keep about 3-8 tunes going per month and all the revisions that go along with them it can actually be alot at times...Won't hear from people for days then all of a sudden you have 10 emails that come in 2 hours lol but it's actually really satisfying to hear from happy people because we all love our cars so the passion is appreciated.
Doing great work AJP! FYI, I think you are the fastest Fusion to date... Only "fast" guy I'm aware of is AnotherGreenFusion and he went 13.9 or so and had A LOT more mods than you do. If you're planning to hit 300 AWHP on the stock turbo, I think you're going to be disappointed. However, I would love to see how you end up!
As far as I know, Brad has only tuned one 3.0 Lincoln and I am pleased that it is mine.
WHY AJP WHYYYYY. Now I'm starting to look at mods for the '15 Titanium I have again. Its a FWD model if you need another test bed ;)
Quote from: derfdog15 on November 16, 2017, 11:30:48 AM
WHY AJP WHYYYYY. Now I'm starting to look at mods for the '15 Titanium I have again. Its a FWD model if you need another test bed ;)
Because I can't help myself...and there Is full E85 in the tank right now
Quote from: AJP turbo on November 16, 2017, 11:34:13 AM
Quote from: derfdog15 on November 16, 2017, 11:30:48 AM
WHY AJP WHYYYYY. Now I'm starting to look at mods for the '15 Titanium I have again. Its a FWD model if you need another test bed ;)
Because I can't help myself...and there Is full E85 in the tank right now
The amount of temptation is growing. You're an ASS you know that? It's ok though. We still love you.
Anything new?
Quote from: limited02 on February 16, 2018, 04:17:48 PM
Anything new?
Brad's been too pre-occupied with shopping for new foot wear.
He's placed this current project on hold as a result. LOL.
This is my shoe...What's wrong with my shoes? Not like they are Alcoby's.....
But there was supposed to be an update but a couple weeks ago I was supposed to rent some dyno time for the fusion and to see how much power it was making but the shop told me that with the weather it would be hit or miss if they would schedule and wouldn't want me to bring the car on the dyno with all the crap that had been on the roads and a snowy wet car crapping up the dyno rollers. Well the weather was bad so it didn't happen...So somtime in the spring I will get on it.
I've been running full E85 and the car has no problem with it. I can run as much boost as I want but the car seems to like about 18-20 psi boost and I'm not sure if there is much of a point to run more...The E85 is allowing me to run about 14-20 degrees of spark depending on load and on 93 octane I would have to run about 8-12 degrees lower so the E85 is helping immensely.
I have a catless downpipe to install when the weather breaks....I ran 13.98 at 98 in the fall and that was just E30 and ALL stock so maybe on E85 and downpipe I can run mid 13's? And hoping for at least 260whp and 350wtq but we will see..
I went on a work trip but I ordered a bunch of parts from tasca for a spring project. New Motorcraft struts and shocks all the way around. Motorcraft strut mounts and strut bearings and still need to order steeda springs and some kind of sway bars....Need new summer tires so going with Summitomo 255/40/19 so that is the fattest rubber I can fit on the stock wheel so it should be nice and grippy.
Any fuel system changes needed to run the E85? could be fun to do a full E85 tune on my '15 FWD titanium if the car would take it without any other changes.
Quote from: derfdog15 on February 17, 2018, 04:00:11 PM
Any fuel system changes needed to run the E85? could be fun to do a full E85 tune on my '15 FWD titanium if the car would take it without any other changes.
No changes at all if running the stock turbo...upgraded turbos could require fuel upgrades like in the sho
Went to the track last night and this is probably it for engine mods unless I decide to do a turbo. I was running full E85 which at my pump is actually about E70 and got my CP-E Catless downpipe on and go my steeda springs and all new shocks and struts and rear sway bar. Also installed my 255/40/19 tires on the stock wheels which is about as wide as I can fit on the 8" wide wheels.
Ran 13.77 at 99
I was hoping for at least 13.6 with the E85 and catless down pipe but for just a tune and drop in filter I think that's pretty good for a 2.0 ecoboost automatic AWD fusion it was in the 70's for temp though. I have it at about 20 psi in the midrange and boost tapers to about 15-16 at 6200rpm due to turbo size. I'm looking at a track calculator and it looks like DA was about 2500 at the time of my slip.
Next time I take vacation I plan on renting the local dyno to actually see the type of power and torque. I'm guessing 260-280whp and wildly guessing at 350wtq
Not to shabby! I'd be more than content with a 13.7 second fusion! I've driven my parents stock 2.0 and would be surprised if it could squeak out 15.250's!
How did that 3000GT behind you run?
Quote from: dubcitySHO on June 03, 2018, 06:32:29 PM
Not to shabby! I'd be more than content with a 13.7 second fusion! I've driven my parents stock 2.0 and would be surprised if it could squeak out 15.250's!
How did that 3000GT behind you run?
I think like mid 13's but it was a beat up car lol..yeah 13.77 is great considering that's what mustang gt and gto and supras ran not too long ago...and I have a trunk and decent back seat with awd that goes well in snow
Slip
Quote from: AJP turbo on June 03, 2018, 11:03:54 PM
Slip
I think this is the fastest Fusion time to date! Very impressive!
Tuned vs. Stock
Finally had a chance to put my Fusion on the dyno last week. I rented the dyno again at PRL motorsports in Export, Pa.
I did a few pulls and tried to simulate a stock pull as best I could considering my mods and fuel(E85). I think I expected a little higher on the tuned pulls but I haven't seen many dynos on AWD 2.0 fusions. I thought they would be closer Focus ST's but considering they are manual transmissions and only FWD I guess that could explain the differences. But I did run a pretty good 1/4 mile time in June so I guess I'm where I should be.
The tune at about 21 psi in the midrange and tapering down to about 15 psi at redline due to turbo size put down 240whp/315wtq
I was running full E85 which at my pump seems to be about E70 based on my fuel trims. I also have catless downpipes. SO for a stock pull I ran stock boost and only scaled for the E70 and I locked the knock sensors so they could NOT add spark during the pull so the spark came from the stock tables without adding from knock sensors. That was the best way I could think to simulate a stock pull with E70 in the tank.
The stock pull was 194wph/246wtq the stock crank numbers are 240hp/270tq so I guess that would be around a 20% loss if you perscribe to that.
I did see one video of a stage 3 fusion which included a turbo upgrade and it made 40 more HP than mine but about 30ft lbs less than mine so I'm pretty happy that my tune was in that ball park but only on E85/downpipe/tune.
Satisfied with the torque numbers.
Whoa baby! Those are some curvalicious numbers!
Nice job Brad! Torque is where its at anyway!!!
Anything new? Still running full E85?
Quote from: limited02 on February 05, 2019, 08:57:17 AM
Anything new? Still running full E85?
Not much new. Still running full E85 which at my pump seemed to max out to about 70% which is plenty to give more than enough spark.
It's been a little while but I never did get to make it to the track after I tweaked the tune a bit so maybe early spring I can try again and see if I can knock off a 13.6 or so.
I have been running a dialing in a FFV tune. It has moderate gains but not to the extent the E85 tune does. But I didn't really set it up for max power, more so for the capability to be able to throw pump gas in it if I couldn't get E85