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Ecoboost Performance => Troubleshooting, Maintenance, TSB Articles => Technical Articles => Topic started by: SHOdded on October 31, 2018, 02:58:44 PM

Title: Timing system changes
Post by: SHOdded on October 31, 2018, 02:58:44 PM
Not technically a technical article, but needs to be documented.  Will be updated as research is ongoing :)

2010+ Taurus SHO Primary Timing Chain

Production Date: 02/2011-
Ford Part No.: AT4Z-6268-B
Belt - Timing Primary

Replaced By   AT4Z-6268-C

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Production Date: 06/2009-02/2011
Ford Part No.: 7T4Z-6268-A
Chain - Timing Primary

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Production Date: 06/2009-
Ford Part No.: 7T4Z-6268-CA
Chain - Timing Secondary

Require Quantity   2
Package Quantity   1

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Camshaft Position Sensor aka Phaser

Passenger Side
Production Date: 08/2010-
Ford Part No.: BA5Z-6A257-C
Sensor - Camshaft Position Intake , RH

Replaced By   BA5Z-6A257-E

Driver Side
Production Date: 08/2010-
Ford Part No.: BA5Z-6A257-D
Sensor - Camshaft Position Intake , LH

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Driver Side
Production Date: 06/2009-05/2010
Ford Part No.: 7T4Z-6A257-A
Sprocket - Camshaft
Replaced By   7T4Z-6A257-B

Passenger Side
Production Date: 06/2009-05/2010
Ford Part No.: 8T4Z-6A257-A
Sensor - Camshaft Position
Replaced By   8T4Z-6A257-B

Why the gap in the phaser part info, no idea.
Title: Re: Timing system changes
Post by: SHOdded on October 31, 2018, 03:04:13 PM
Differences between the timing systems as a result of the updates are listed in the attached PDF downloaded (along with images) from the following site:
https://www.fordflex.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16661 (https://www.fordflex.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16661)

1st generation chain:
(https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9544.0;attach=19307;image)
2nd generation chain:
(https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9544.0;attach=19309;image)

Pics from the referenced article comparing old Gen 1 to new Gen 2 primary timing chain:
(https://www.fordflex.net/forums/download/file.php?id=2391&sid=458d5995abce02cf68067c63ba25a7f7)
(https://www.fordflex.net/forums/download/file.php?id=2392&sid=458d5995abce02cf68067c63ba25a7f7)
(https://www.fordflex.net/forums/download/file.php?id=2393&sid=458d5995abce02cf68067c63ba25a7f7)
(https://www.fordflex.net/forums/download/file.php?id=2394&sid=458d5995abce02cf68067c63ba25a7f7)
(https://www.fordflex.net/forums/download/file.php?id=2395&sid=458d5995abce02cf68067c63ba25a7f7)
(https://www.fordflex.net/forums/download/file.php?id=2396&sid=458d5995abce02cf68067c63ba25a7f7)
(https://www.fordflex.net/forums/download/file.php?id=2397&sid=458d5995abce02cf68067c63ba25a7f7)
(https://www.fordflex.net/forums/download/file.php?id=2398&sid=458d5995abce02cf68067c63ba25a7f7)
Title: Re: Timing system changes
Post by: SHOdded on October 31, 2018, 03:08:53 PM
While the chain design is somewhat different, is based on principles similar to the Bosch HY-VO chain product, purported to be quieter and more efficient.  Reliability stats are not yet available.

https://www.borgwarner.com/newsroom/press-releases/2017/02/22/borgwarners-hy-vo-chains-transfer-torque-for-the-chevrolet-volt-and-malibu-hybrid (https://www.borgwarner.com/newsroom/press-releases/2017/02/22/borgwarners-hy-vo-chains-transfer-torque-for-the-chevrolet-volt-and-malibu-hybrid)
http://www.car-engineer.com/hy-vo-chain-drives-transfer-cases-toyota-lexus/ (http://www.car-engineer.com/hy-vo-chain-drives-transfer-cases-toyota-lexus/)

(https://cdn.borgwarner.com/images/default-source/news-media/press-release-hi-res/bw-00361.tmb-bw-list-th.jpg)
Title: Re: Timing system changes
Post by: ZSHO on October 31, 2018, 04:09:00 PM
Hmm Interesting.. Thanks for the update. Z   :thumb:
Title: Re: Timing system changes
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on November 01, 2018, 12:15:07 AM
Hmmm...

I can tell you this, since we had the entire timing set done on the Lincoln, KR is a rarity. I would have thought my sensor was broken if it wasn't happily adding.

For the 1st couple of months after we got it back, never saw more than .09. Yes, that is correct. Two months in I finally got a +3 on an extended logging/hunting session.

Now i have to look and see if i got the updated parts.

Title: Re: Timing system changes
Post by: J-Will on November 01, 2018, 06:21:12 AM
"Timing system" is right that's a lot of parts that need replaced

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Title: Re: Timing system changes
Post by: SHOdded on November 01, 2018, 06:57:41 AM
You would be surprised how hard a time I have convincing people of that, LOL.  Unfortunately, there are a LOT of moving parts to this system, and if just one goes wrong, it casts doubt on the rest of them. 
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