http://autoweek.com/article/car-reviews/2014-cadillac-xts-vsport-review-notes (http://autoweek.com/article/car-reviews/2014-cadillac-xts-vsport-review-notes)
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http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/1312_2014_cadillac_xts_vsport_first_test/ (http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/1312_2014_cadillac_xts_vsport_first_test/)
Although not a comparison, both articles mention the Lincoln was more quicker and less expensive. If i am not mistaken the MKS is even heavier compared to the curb weight of 4,215 lb that autoweek reported.
Looks like the 3.5Ecoboost can hang with the big dawgs... :winkg:
Good comparison and for 15K$ less, the MKS appears to be a better buy for sure. However, I think that the MKS is overdue for a fresher look. Especially the rear end. If they could get the inspiration they got with the MKZ, I think it could be a killer!
Now if marketing could catch up to the performance ...
Quote from: steve142857 on September 02, 2014, 09:56:52 AM
Good comparison and for 15K$ less, the MKS appears to be a better buy for sure. However, I think that the MKS is overdue for a fresher look. Especially the rear end. If they could get the inspiration they got with the MKZ, I think it could be a killer!
Plus we didn't have to pay to have the FLM cars made.... The real cost of a current GM contains the disguised cost of the bailout we paid for!
That XTS is a lovely car though. Aesthetically, none of Ford's lineup can hang with what Cadillac has begun to put out.
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Quote from: IHeartGroceries on September 07, 2014, 03:59:03 PM
That XTS is a lovely car though. Aesthetically, none of Ford's lineup can hang with what Cadillac has begun to put out.
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Really? I think the current crop of Caddy's are FUUUGGGLLYY....all personal taste. But...Jebus the front end is crap.
Quote from: vernonator on September 08, 2014, 08:11:01 AM
Quote from: IHeartGroceries on September 07, 2014, 03:59:03 PM
That XTS is a lovely car though. Aesthetically, none of Ford's lineup can hang with what Cadillac has begun to put out.
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Really? I think the current crop of Caddy's are FUUUGGGLLYY....all personal taste. But...Jebus the front end is crap.
^^^Agreed
^Haha! Yeah, I guess it's a matter of taste. More recently, in my opinion, compared to years past, I really think GM is out shining their domestic competitors with their lux offshoots.
But, there's that Government Motors stigma which will forever deter me henceforth from considering a GM product. So sad.
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I like Caddy's exterior but hate the cheap looking interior with CUE.
The XTS still looks like a old man's car, so doesn't appeal to me. Don't get why the CTS V-Sport is RWD only. Give that AWD and I could see myself driving one of those!
Dodge needs to stick AWD in their SRT lineup. Would appeal to a lot more people. Still can't believe they pulled AWD out of the Charger R/T.
The SHO is the perfect car for me at the present time. 'Murican, AWD, turbo, and lots of luxury/technology.
The XTS Vsport is detuned vs the CTS Vsport due to cooling issues with the transverse layout. The XTS Vsport has hp/tq of 410/369 vs 420/430 for the CTS Vsport. The XTS also only has the 6 spd instead of the 8 spd auto.
That doesn't change the compare between the XTS and MKS just saying that GM made a lot of compromises for the AWD in the XTS with that engine.
I thought about getting a CTS Vsport instead of the SHO but the lack of AWD and $20k difference in price changed my mind. Plus the vsport is no V. I sorely miss my CTS V but the SHO is decently quick and I will be loving the AWD in about 2 months. Hoping the 2016 CTS V comes with AWD.
Quote from: PokerMunkee on September 08, 2014, 10:52:53 AM
I like Caddy's exterior but hate the cheap looking interior with CUE.
The XTS still looks like a old man's car, so doesn't appeal to me. Don't get why the CTS V-Sport is RWD only. Give that AWD and I could see myself driving one of those!
Dodge needs to stick AWD in their SRT lineup. Would appeal to a lot more people. Still can't believe they pulled AWD out of the Charger R/T.
The SHO is the perfect car for me at the present time. 'Murican, AWD, turbo, and lots of luxury/technology.
I would like to see an awd variant of the srt charger. Only thing is with it being a N/A engine you are pretty much stuck with the power from a simple tuning standpoint. Where as with our cars we can make massive gains relatively cheap.
Quote from: wasinger3000 on September 08, 2014, 12:33:09 PM
I would like to see an awd variant of the srt charger. Only thing is with it being a N/A engine you are pretty much stuck with the power from a simple tuning standpoint. Where as with our cars we can make massive gains relatively cheap.
Give the Charger Hellcat AWD and I won't even mod it!
Quote from: PokerMunkee on September 08, 2014, 01:36:09 PM
Give the Charger Hellcat AWD and I won't even mod it!
Maybe they will make a Jeep SRT8 Hellcat. Too bad it would probably be $80k+.
Quote from: adforce on September 08, 2014, 01:40:59 PM
Quote from: PokerMunkee on September 08, 2014, 01:36:09 PM
Give the Charger Hellcat AWD and I won't even mod it!
Maybe they will make a Jeep SRT8 Hellcat. Too bad it would probably be $80k+.
Quote from: PokerMunkee on September 08, 2014, 01:36:09 PM
Quote from: wasinger3000 on September 08, 2014, 12:33:09 PM
I would like to see an awd variant of the srt charger. Only thing is with it being a N/A engine you are pretty much stuck with the power from a simple tuning standpoint. Where as with our cars we can make massive gains relatively cheap.
Give the Charger Hellcat AWD and I won't even mod it!
I'd find a way to get both!
poker:
when did dodge pull the awd out of the charger r/t as my friend got a '14 about a month ago, although had been someplace where local dealer had to trade for it?
mikev
The refresh 2015 Charger R/T is only RWD. You can get AWD in the V6 trims still.
(http://www.blogcdn.com/slideshows/images/slides/254/280/9/S2542809/slug/l/2015-dodge-charger-rt-002-1.jpg)
http://www.torquenews.com/106/no-unpopular-all-wheel-drive-2015-dodge-charger-rt (http://www.torquenews.com/106/no-unpopular-all-wheel-drive-2015-dodge-charger-rt)
Quote from: adforce on September 08, 2014, 01:40:59 PM
Quote from: PokerMunkee on September 08, 2014, 01:36:09 PM
Give the Charger Hellcat AWD and I won't even mod it!
Maybe they will make a Jeep SRT8 Hellcat. Too bad it would probably be $80k+.
My uncles jeep srt8 was $76k. Hellcat jeep would approach $100k easy.
Quote from: PokerMunkee on September 08, 2014, 03:08:19 PM
The refresh 2015 Charger R/T is only RWD. You can get AWD in the V6 trims still.
(http://www.blogcdn.com/slideshows/images/slides/254/280/9/S2542809/slug/l/2015-dodge-charger-rt-002-1.jpg)
http://www.torquenews.com/106/no-unpopular-all-wheel-drive-2015-dodge-charger-rt (http://www.torquenews.com/106/no-unpopular-all-wheel-drive-2015-dodge-charger-rt)
Clearly Mopar liked the looks of the SHO
Quote from: FracaSHO on September 08, 2014, 08:39:53 PM
Quote from: adforce on September 08, 2014, 01:40:59 PM
Quote from: PokerMunkee on September 08, 2014, 01:36:09 PM
Give the Charger Hellcat AWD and I won't even mod it!
Maybe they will make a Jeep SRT8 Hellcat. Too bad it would probably be $80k+.
My uncles jeep srt8 was $76k. Hellcat jeep would approach $100k easy.
$76k for a frkin' Jeep? That's lunacy....I don't care what it is...its STILL a Chrysler down deep.
Quote from: SHOnUup on September 08, 2014, 08:48:43 AM
Quote from: vernonator on September 08, 2014, 08:11:01 AM
Quote from: IHeartGroceries on September 07, 2014, 03:59:03 PM
That XTS is a lovely car though. Aesthetically, none of Ford's lineup can hang with what Cadillac has begun to put out.
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Really? I think the current crop of Caddy's are FUUUGGGLLYY....all personal taste. But...Jebus the front end is crap.
^^^Agreed
Another vote ^^
I don't like them either.