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Started by Gray Brick, March 24, 2017, 01:41:49 AM

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Gray Brick

March 24, 2017, 01:41:49 AM
A few months ago my transmission started to flare in between the 1-2 & 2-3 shifts.
In the past few days it started to do the same thing on the 3-4 shift but now a flare with a bump.
Fluid has been drained and filled every 20k miles.
Tune has not been changed or modified.

Has anyone experienced this?  VSS and/or OSS problem?

Logfile and picture attached with part throttle driving.
2013 Ecoboost Ford Flex
AJP Tune (ATP+2) in progress , Livernois HPFP, 3 Bar MAP, UPR Catch Can, 100% Methanol w/ braided steel lines, 3" Downpipes -->2.5" X-pipe --> 2.5" Magnaflow exhaust, 2.5" air inlets to each turbo with cone filter, Custom water to air intercooler with chiller
275/40-20 Front 315/35-20 Rear Tires
---12.419ET/112.43MPH @ 5150 lbs in the 1/4---

SHOdded

#1
March 24, 2017, 07:41:14 AM
TSS/OSS is definitely a viable suspect, especially if the flares are harsh.  But to be sure, I would send a fluid sample off to Blackstone labs for analysis.  If that turns out fine, then I would think about replacing these and possibly the valve body (at least cleaning it out).

I have found that the MAF sensor on my Edge can also contribute to the problem because it feeds into TCM shift logic.  I tried cleaning time after time, did not help.  Putting in a new one made a big difference.  So maybe you can try cleaning/replacing the MAP sensors.  Also check the throttle body, because the motor sometimes fails.

Other than that, there are TSBs for bumps/harsh shifts that you may want to look through, but since the problem seems to be progressing, I am definitely thinking TSS/OSS.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

Gray Brick

#2
March 24, 2017, 08:53:17 PM
Update:

Trans shop wants to replace valve body for $1200 or total rebuild for $3700.

I think I will try to replace the OSS and VSS for under $100. :) :)

Has anyone on this forum done this or the valve body for the 6f55/6F50?
2013 Ecoboost Ford Flex
AJP Tune (ATP+2) in progress , Livernois HPFP, 3 Bar MAP, UPR Catch Can, 100% Methanol w/ braided steel lines, 3" Downpipes -->2.5" X-pipe --> 2.5" Magnaflow exhaust, 2.5" air inlets to each turbo with cone filter, Custom water to air intercooler with chiller
275/40-20 Front 315/35-20 Rear Tires
---12.419ET/112.43MPH @ 5150 lbs in the 1/4---

SHOdded

#3
March 24, 2017, 11:28:18 PM
It is a time-consuming, but a very DIY-able process if you are patient & methodical.  First timers will usually take 7-8 hours to do it, tho the work can be done by a pro in 4-5.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

Gray Brick

#4
March 25, 2017, 11:15:14 AM
Cant find directions to replace the valve body. Where can I find this?

I might as well do the VSS, OSS, and valve body while I am in there.

Ordered a Blackstone kit to see what shape it is in prior to this.
2013 Ecoboost Ford Flex
AJP Tune (ATP+2) in progress , Livernois HPFP, 3 Bar MAP, UPR Catch Can, 100% Methanol w/ braided steel lines, 3" Downpipes -->2.5" X-pipe --> 2.5" Magnaflow exhaust, 2.5" air inlets to each turbo with cone filter, Custom water to air intercooler with chiller
275/40-20 Front 315/35-20 Rear Tires
---12.419ET/112.43MPH @ 5150 lbs in the 1/4---

SHOdded

#5
March 25, 2017, 01:40:57 PM
I will post the fsm directions this evening, out of pocket right now.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

SHOdded

#6
March 25, 2017, 06:42:29 PM
Here ya go
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

Gray Brick

#7
March 25, 2017, 07:56:42 PM
Looks fairly easy.

I think I will change the sensors and if this does not work try the Sonnax kit.

Thanks again. :)
2013 Ecoboost Ford Flex
AJP Tune (ATP+2) in progress , Livernois HPFP, 3 Bar MAP, UPR Catch Can, 100% Methanol w/ braided steel lines, 3" Downpipes -->2.5" X-pipe --> 2.5" Magnaflow exhaust, 2.5" air inlets to each turbo with cone filter, Custom water to air intercooler with chiller
275/40-20 Front 315/35-20 Rear Tires
---12.419ET/112.43MPH @ 5150 lbs in the 1/4---

SHOdded

#8
March 25, 2017, 08:42:19 PM
:thumb:
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

Gray Brick

#9
April 02, 2017, 10:56:19 AM
Just dropped gears 4+

Curious if my valve body could be the issue of the trans is toast.
2013 Ecoboost Ford Flex
AJP Tune (ATP+2) in progress , Livernois HPFP, 3 Bar MAP, UPR Catch Can, 100% Methanol w/ braided steel lines, 3" Downpipes -->2.5" X-pipe --> 2.5" Magnaflow exhaust, 2.5" air inlets to each turbo with cone filter, Custom water to air intercooler with chiller
275/40-20 Front 315/35-20 Rear Tires
---12.419ET/112.43MPH @ 5150 lbs in the 1/4---

ZSHO

#10
April 02, 2017, 01:36:58 PM Last Edit: April 02, 2017, 01:39:36 PM by ZSHO
-MANU is the Man. Z   :thumb:


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

Gray Brick

#11
April 02, 2017, 01:50:50 PM
ZSHO,

Not sure what this meant: -MANU is the Man. Z   

Please explain. :)
2013 Ecoboost Ford Flex
AJP Tune (ATP+2) in progress , Livernois HPFP, 3 Bar MAP, UPR Catch Can, 100% Methanol w/ braided steel lines, 3" Downpipes -->2.5" X-pipe --> 2.5" Magnaflow exhaust, 2.5" air inlets to each turbo with cone filter, Custom water to air intercooler with chiller
275/40-20 Front 315/35-20 Rear Tires
---12.419ET/112.43MPH @ 5150 lbs in the 1/4---

ZSHO

#12
April 02, 2017, 01:55:03 PM Last Edit: April 02, 2017, 02:06:55 PM by ZSHO
Quote from: Gray Brick on April 02, 2017, 01:50:50 PM
ZSHO,

Not sure what this meant: -MANU is the Man. Z   

Please explain. :)
:bigthanx::to SHOdded for the FSM. Z
Sorry just hate typing from my phone. Lol


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

SHOdded

#13
April 02, 2017, 04:17:02 PM
We are shooting in the dark right now, but it could very well be the TSS/OSS sensors AND or the valve body.  Does the fluid still look good?  If so, then I would proceed apace with the sensor replacement & valve body cleaning.

I remember from previous posts that you have had issues with the trans running at higher temps than expected.  Is this issue still current?  I don't know how you would test the cooler in place, but that might be worth a look also.  could be defective or clogged.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!
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