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Detailing, SYNC, AV, Security, Electrical, and Lighting => Exterior Modifications => Topic started by: leverkyle on May 11, 2014, 08:27:55 PM

Title: HID Bulbs
Post by: leverkyle on May 11, 2014, 08:27:55 PM
I've been lookin at replacing my oem halogen bulbs with some HIDs. Does anyone have experience with hidextra.com?

http://www.hidextra.com/h10-5000k-hid-kit/

There's a link to replacements for f150 fog light replacements.
Title: Re: HID Bulbs
Post by: SHOdded on May 12, 2014, 12:26:36 AM
No personal experience with them, but I have heard positive things over on the Ford Edge Forum.
Title: Re: HID Bulbs
Post by: leverkyle on May 12, 2014, 05:45:47 AM
Sweet thanks. I'm thinkin gettin some for heads and fogs. Oughta brighten up these candle stick halogens.
Title: Re: HID Bulbs
Post by: SHOdded on May 12, 2014, 05:52:32 AM
If you get 55w 5000k bulbs, make sure you run power directly off the battery or to a spare fuse underhood.  That power and wattage will give you a nice bright white light, but may not work well with the existing wiring to the fuse box for the halogen lighting.
Title: Re: HID Bulbs
Post by: leverkyle on May 12, 2014, 06:05:30 AM

Quote from: SHOdded on May 12, 2014, 05:52:32 AM
If you get 55w 5000k bulbs, make sure you run power directly off the battery or to a spare fuse underhood.  That power and wattage will give you a nice bright white light, but may not work well with the existing wiring to the fuse box for the halogen lighting.
o thank you. Did not know that!
Title: Re: HID Bulbs
Post by: SHOdded on May 12, 2014, 06:27:23 AM
There are at least a couple of members on here who can help out with HID lighting.  LowerFrequencies and ShoBoat come to mind, don't mean to leave others out though.
Title: Re: HID Bulbs
Post by: leverkyle on May 12, 2014, 06:50:37 AM
Awesome thanks!
Title: Re: HID Bulbs
Post by: panther427 on May 12, 2014, 08:03:02 AM
Ya I have had some bad experience with upgraded lighting in cars that good bought with it done.  They swapped in higher Watt high beams but didn't do anything with the wiring.   I was living way out in the country then so good used my high beams a lot and for long periods of times.   Started having issues. Had a melted wires and connectors..  easy fix but could start a fire.  It's way easy to overload a wire with lights
Title: Re: HID Bulbs
Post by: JimiJak on May 12, 2014, 08:08:16 AM
If the f-150 is the same as the XSport, you'll want a CanBus harness.
Title: Re: HID Bulbs
Post by: leverkyle on May 12, 2014, 08:14:33 AM
Alright thanks!
Title: Re: HID Bulbs
Post by: ShoBoat on May 12, 2014, 09:24:16 AM
Do not run 55w hid in the oem halogen housing. You will in time burn the reflector. Even with a really good bulb it will still do it. Just my 2 cents.


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Title: Re: HID Bulbs
Post by: leverkyle on May 12, 2014, 09:29:53 AM
Glad you said that!
Title: Re: HID Bulbs
Post by: SHOdded on May 12, 2014, 10:09:40 AM
Discount of 15% available at checkout:  http://www.retailmenot.com/view/hidextra.com (http://www.retailmenot.com/view/hidextra.com)
Title: Re: HID Bulbs
Post by: MDesign Performance on May 12, 2014, 10:42:41 AM
What year is your vehicle? Might want to add that info to your sig.

If you have reflector housings it is technically illegal to install Xenon HID kits as they will blind oncoming drivers, if you have projectors I suggest a LED HID kit over standard Xenon.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-automotive-integrated-LED-headlight-lamp-conversion-kit-6000k-H10-HB3-HB4-/291140164990?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43c94e5d7e&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-automotive-integrated-LED-headlight-lamp-conversion-kit-6000k-H10-HB3-HB4-/291140164990?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43c94e5d7e&vxp=mtr)
Title: Re: HID Bulbs
Post by: leverkyle on May 12, 2014, 11:01:12 AM
It's a 2013 f150
Title: Re: HID Bulbs
Post by: leverkyle on May 12, 2014, 11:01:22 AM

Quote from: SHOdded on May 12, 2014, 10:09:40 AM
Discount of 15% available at checkout:  http://www.retailmenot.com/view/hidextra.com (http://www.retailmenot.com/view/hidextra.com)
thanks!
Title: Re: HID Bulbs
Post by: leverkyle on May 12, 2014, 11:08:05 AM

Quote from: Spartn27 on May 12, 2014, 10:42:41 AM
What year is your vehicle? Might want to add that info to your sig.

If you have reflector housings it is technically illegal to install Xenon HID kits as they will blind oncoming drivers, if you have projectors I suggest a LED HID kit over standard Xenon.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-automotive-integrated-LED-headlight-lamp-conversion-kit-6000k-H10-HB3-HB4-/291140164990?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43c94e5d7e&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-automotive-integrated-LED-headlight-lamp-conversion-kit-6000k-H10-HB3-HB4-/291140164990?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43c94e5d7e&vxp=mtr)
i think I put it in my signature now. Idk if it worked.
Title: Re: HID Bulbs
Post by: MDesign Performance on May 12, 2014, 12:37:17 PM
Quote from: leverkyle on May 12, 2014, 11:08:05 AM

Quote from: Spartn27 on May 12, 2014, 10:42:41 AM
What year is your vehicle? Might want to add that info to your sig.

If you have reflector housings it is technically illegal to install Xenon HID kits as they will blind oncoming drivers, if you have projectors I suggest a LED HID kit over standard Xenon.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-automotive-integrated-LED-headlight-lamp-conversion-kit-6000k-H10-HB3-HB4-/291140164990?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43c94e5d7e&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-automotive-integrated-LED-headlight-lamp-conversion-kit-6000k-H10-HB3-HB4-/291140164990?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43c94e5d7e&vxp=mtr)
i think I put it in my signature now. Idk if it worked.

Working fine  :)

As far as the kit, I would suggest the LED over the Xenon as you'll tend to have less issues, also you'll get nice crisp light output. Best of all with all the advancement of LED kits since they came out a year ago, newer kits are integrated into a single bulb with no ballast making install very simple.
Title: Re: HID Bulbs
Post by: SHOdded on May 12, 2014, 01:14:39 PM
Anybody actually running these LEDs in their headlights, Spartn?  Curious what their experience is.

In general, LED light output & quality is highly variable unless you go with name-brand mfrs like Philips or Osram (the German variants, not the US variant products).  I would definitely go for aftermarket lighting products made in Germany, if I could afford it.
Title: Re: HID Bulbs
Post by: MDesign Performance on May 12, 2014, 01:27:59 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on May 12, 2014, 01:14:39 PM
Anybody actually running these LEDs in their headlights, Spartn?  Curious what their experience is.

In general, LED light output & quality is highly variable unless you go with name-brand mfrs like Philips or Osram (the German variants, not the US variant products).  I would definitely go for aftermarket lighting products made in Germany, if I could afford it.

I personally haven't installed them as I have the OEM HID kit installed on my MKS, it would be more so for people with halogen lamps looking to upgrade. LED headlight technology has come a long way, more so evidenced by the fact that there are a handful of LED headlight equipped vehicles coming out this year and some that have already came out.

If I were to upgrade an existing HID system I would only swap bulbs for some German made Osram D3S 5000K bulbs.
Title: Re: HID Bulbs
Post by: donky4444 on May 12, 2014, 01:53:26 PM
On my wife's 2008 MKX I have upgraded her low beams and fog lights to DDM tuning 55w 5000k kits with the DDM harness.  She has been running that set up for 3 years and we have never had an issue with the high output on the projectors.  The only issue we had was a faulty harness and they replaced it for me with no issues.
Title: Re: HID Bulbs
Post by: leverkyle on May 12, 2014, 03:10:23 PM
Who all makes an LED conversion. So far I've only seen oracles. And it's $200.
Title: Re: HID Bulbs
Post by: MDesign Performance on May 12, 2014, 04:18:45 PM
Quote from: leverkyle on May 12, 2014, 03:10:23 PM
Who all makes an LED conversion. So far I've only seen oracles. And it's $200.

I linked one in the other post, heres a link with all kits located in the US on eBay. There are kits with ballasts (last years technology) and kits with integrated systems for simplicity of install (linked earlier in a post on here). Id go through them and just find a seller with good feedback and reviews of their kits, mainly watch out for "amount sold" then read the feedback accordingly.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_from=R40&_nkw=led+h10+kit&LH_PrefLoc=3&_sop=16 (http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_from=R40&_nkw=led+h10+kit&LH_PrefLoc=3&_sop=16)
Title: Re: HID Bulbs
Post by: ShoBoat on May 12, 2014, 04:31:42 PM
^^^ what he said!


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Title: Re: HID Bulbs
Post by: leverkyle on May 12, 2014, 06:19:57 PM
Alright thanks guys!
Title: Re: HID Bulbs
Post by: JimiJak on May 12, 2014, 09:56:41 PM
Quote from: ShoBoat on May 12, 2014, 09:24:16 AM
Do not run 55w hid in the oem halogen housing. You will in time burn the reflector. Even with a really good bulb it will still do it. Just my 2 cents.

I assume you're talking about a reflector housing and not a projector housing.

For those of you that are unfamiliar with the difference:

Reflector Housing -
(http://www.autotrucktoys.com/ford_truck/images/FAL3Z13008AJ-A-OEM-Ford-F-150-Black-Out-Headlight-Assembly.jpg)

Projector Housing -
(http://image.trucktrend.com/f/features/news/2013/163_news130107_2013_ford_f_150_hid_headlights/46152774/2013-Ford-F150-HID-Headlight-Closeup.jpg)

Option 3
Bad*ss Housing -
(http://f150truckshouston.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/ford-f150-atlas-concept-led-headlight.png)
Title: Re: HID Bulbs
Post by: ShoBoat on May 12, 2014, 10:03:57 PM
Quote from: JimiJak on May 12, 2014, 09:56:41 PM
Quote from: ShoBoat on May 12, 2014, 09:24:16 AM
Do not run 55w hid in the oem halogen housing. You will in time burn the reflector. Even with a really good bulb it will still do it. Just my 2 cents.

I assume you're talking about a reflector housing and not a projector housing.

For those of you that are unfamiliar with the difference:

Reflector Housing -
(http://www.autotrucktoys.com/ford_truck/images/FAL3Z13008AJ-A-OEM-Ford-F-150-Black-Out-Headlight-Assembly.jpg)

Projector Housing -
(http://image.trucktrend.com/f/features/news/2013/163_news130107_2013_ford_f_150_hid_headlights/46152774/2013-Ford-F150-HID-Headlight-Closeup.jpg)

Option 3
Bad*ss Housing -
(http://f150truckshouston.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/ford-f150-atlas-concept-led-headlight.png)
Actually both, I had oem halogen reflectors in my SHO oem. And I had 55w 9006 HID in them. The reflector bowls dimmed over time. Many have reported the same issue. With the shallow halogen bowl this becomes a real issue. The reflector style is just plain wrong to do as you will blind on coming traffic. The F150 is perfect for a retrofit as the Evox-R is a drop in to the housing. That is what I did with mine, now I have a proper HID projector.
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