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Title: First dyno for the sleeper sedan
Post by: WinPlaceSHO on April 13, 2020, 11:01:58 AM
A fun story (with picture and logs) to break the quarantine monotony...

I found a shop that only lets one client in at a time and he is the only other person in the shop.  So how could I NOT dyno it?  I really needed something to do, I need to get out of the house!

A quick forward, my mod list below is what I was running for the dyno, although I would like to point out that this is the "safe e30" tune and Matt is working on a "track" tune.  I just couldn't wait to see what the numbers were showing and like I said, this seemed like a great idea to get out of the house, and see how it stacked up.

Here are the results:

1 - 397/448
2 - 369/445
3 - 352/447

Now one other thing to note, I would like everyone to know that I insisted on a pull in 3rd gear, even though he wanted to do them all in 4th.  The first one is in 3rd, the other two are in 4th, he was surprised to see he was getting to 160MPH for the 4th gear pulls and I remembered someone saying that you could hit that in 4th, so it was better to do the pulls in 3rd, so I'm wondering if that limited the last two pulls more than the heat soak did.  Although, there is a pretty good amount of heat soak in the pulls, but if you are hitting a limiter then from what I understand it limits it.   ;D

Also, has anyone with similar mods ran down the track?  Just wondering ballpark numbers, if you missed my intro, I have a 2018 Audi S5 to beat!

Title: Re: First dyno for the sleeper sedan
Post by: TopherSho on April 13, 2020, 11:26:51 AM
With the numbers as seen,  I'd wager with a decent launch (1500-1800) 12.3# - 12.4# should be a ''all night long number''  .. first few runs should be 12.2 with a good launch and good 60"

Title: Re: First dyno for the sleeper sedan
Post by: WinPlaceSHO on April 13, 2020, 11:37:12 AM
Thanks, that's what I was hoping for, I'm wondering how much more hp/tq I will pick up with the track tune too. 

It would be super great if the GH IC was in stock soon as well, plenty of time right now to get that installed too, maybe get me into the 11's with a little help from all of the other variables!
Title: Re: First dyno for the sleeper sedan
Post by: SM105K on April 13, 2020, 11:44:48 AM
With those numbers, sub 1.90 sixty foots, and good air, your car should run a consistent 12.70 @ 108.
Title: Re: First dyno for the sleeper sedan
Post by: Jordan on April 13, 2020, 11:47:36 AM
Just a note non pp fourth gear goes to like mid 120s
Title: Re: First dyno for the sleeper sedan
Post by: WinPlaceSHO on April 13, 2020, 11:51:03 AM
Interesting, I wonder where he was seeing 160, when you get your dyno done what gear do you use?
Title: Re: First dyno for the sleeper sedan
Post by: Jordan on April 13, 2020, 11:57:21 AM
Quote from: WinPlaceSHO on April 13, 2020, 11:51:03 AM
Interesting, I wonder where he was seeing 160, when you get your dyno done what gear do you use?

I've always used fourth
Title: Re: First dyno for the sleeper sedan
Post by: WinPlaceSHO on April 13, 2020, 12:06:40 PM
Quote from: Jordan on April 13, 2020, 11:57:21 AM
Quote from: WinPlaceSHO on April 13, 2020, 11:51:03 AM
Interesting, I wonder where he was seeing 160, when you get your dyno done what gear do you use?

I've always used fourth

Thanks!
Title: Re: First dyno for the sleeper sedan
Post by: ridered74 on April 13, 2020, 12:08:37 PM
Quote from: WinPlaceSHO on April 13, 2020, 11:01:58 AM
A fun story (with picture and logs) to break the quarantine monotony...

I found a shop that only lets one client in at a time and he is the only other person in the shop.  So how could I NOT dyno it?  I really needed something to do, I need to get out of the house!

A quick forward, my mod list below is what I was running for the dyno, although I would like to point out that this is the "safe e30" tune and Matt is working on a "track" tune.  I just couldn't wait to see what the numbers were showing and like I said, this seemed like a great idea to get out of the house, and see how it stacked up.

Here are the results:

1 - 397/448
2 - 369/445
3 - 352/447

Now one other thing to note, I would like everyone to know that I insisted on a pull in 3rd gear, even though he wanted to do them all in 4th.  The first one is in 3rd, the other two are in 4th, he was surprised to see he was getting to 160MPH for the 4th gear pulls and I remembered someone saying that you could hit that in 4th, so it was better to do the pulls in 3rd, so I'm wondering if that limited the last two pulls more than the heat soak did.  Although, there is a pretty good amount of heat soak in the pulls, but if you are hitting a limiter then from what I understand it limits it.   ;D

Also, has anyone with similar mods ran down the track?  Just wondering ballpark numbers, if you missed my intro, I have a 2018 Audi S5 to beat!

When I had almost exact same mods my best track run was a 12.224, but that was in 50 degree weather and I think the DA was about 400.
Title: Re: First dyno for the sleeper sedan
Post by: TopherSho on April 13, 2020, 12:36:21 PM
Quote from: Jordan on April 13, 2020, 11:57:21 AM
Quote from: WinPlaceSHO on April 13, 2020, 11:51:03 AM
Interesting, I wonder where he was seeing 160, when you get your dyno done what gear do you use?

I've always used fourth

I was also limited in 4th, we opted to use 3rd and correct
Title: Re: First dyno for the sleeper sedan
Post by: avidmotion on April 13, 2020, 01:47:31 PM
1:1 is actually 5th gear in our transmissions.....
Title: Re: First dyno for the sleeper sedan
Post by: SM105K on April 13, 2020, 03:46:57 PM
I have always done my dynos pulls in 4th gear.  Next time I may have it run in 5th just to see what happens.
Title: Re: First dyno for the sleeper sedan
Post by: Jordan on April 13, 2020, 05:29:14 PM
Quote from: SM105K on April 13, 2020, 03:46:57 PM
I have always done my dynos pulls in 4th gear.  Next time I may have it run in 5th just to see what happens.
Quote from: avidmotion on April 13, 2020, 01:47:31 PM
1:1 is actually 5th gear in our transmissions.....

Ha, I never did anything but fourth because I am not trying to go 150+ mph on the dyno!
Title: Re: First dyno for the sleeper sedan
Post by: ZSHO on April 13, 2020, 05:49:45 PM
Quote from: avidmotion on April 13, 2020, 01:47:31 PM
1:1 is actually 5th gear in our transmissions.....
The gear closest to the 1:1 ratio which on the SHO I believe is 3rd gear pulls based on AWD Dyno IIRC! Correct me if I'm wrong. Z
Title: Re: First dyno for the sleeper sedan
Post by: WinPlaceSHO on April 13, 2020, 08:47:15 PM
Quote from: Jordan on April 13, 2020, 05:29:14 PM
Quote from: SM105K on April 13, 2020, 03:46:57 PM
I have always done my dynos pulls in 4th gear.  Next time I may have it run in 5th just to see what happens.
Quote from: avidmotion on April 13, 2020, 01:47:31 PM
1:1 is actually 5th gear in our transmissions.....

Ha, I never did anything but fourth because I am not trying to go 150+ mph on the dyno!
He said he had a car going over 200+ on it.  No thanks!

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Title: Re: First dyno for the sleeper sedan
Post by: SHOdded on April 13, 2020, 08:59:06 PM
1:1 is the last gear before overdrive, 5th in this case. 

http://www.nicksmustangranch.com/Service_Manuals/2014/2014_Taurus/Service%20Manual.htm (http://www.nicksmustangranch.com/Service_Manuals/2014/2014_Taurus/Service%20Manual.htm)

Gear Ratio Chart

Gear   Ratio
1st/low   4.484:1
2nd   2.872:1
3rd   1.842:1
4th   1.414:1
5th   1:1
6th   0.742:1
Reverse   2.882:1
Title: Re: First dyno for the sleeper sedan
Post by: 76fomoco on April 14, 2020, 09:56:20 AM
almost the same mods as you with AJP E30 on stock hpfp and stock IC I put 415hp and 470 tq on a mustang dyno and the car run 12.5 with 3500 DA at 70 * you can adjust about .1 per 1000' of DA
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