OK here's the pricing for the hot pipes which will include the following:
Silicone hump connectors and reducers
T clamps for all joints
Tial BoV
Powdercoated pipes
For stock BoV you'll either need to zip tie to the wiring or I'm working on a how-to replace with a resistor but I won't be including that with the kit due to liability.
For 1-9 Pipes the price will be $750 + shipping
for 10+ Price drops to $700 + shipping.
Take off $20.00 for uncoated.
This will be a plug and play setup, remember $260.00 of the price is the Tial BoV.
If you are interested I'll need a $100 deposit and we'll finish the group buy on 10/1 and have them produced at once.
I've had mine powdercoated crinkle black but gloss black and other colors are available, I'll get a list tomorrow and take some better pictures.
This is not a power increase, it merely replaces the factory plastic pipes that crimp down to very small cross section as well as stop any more blowing of the factory rubber hoses if you're upgrading turbos. I need to check fitment this week on a stock SHO to verify the pipes do not hit the factory air intake box.
Here's preliminary pictures:
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I'm inclined to hold out until your fabricator can come up with mounting brackets for the factory BOV's as i've expressed before.....
Just very little, if any desire whatsoever, to go zip tying, or aimlessly hanging the factory BOV's somewhere within the engine bay.
Also, because i've already had a few things PC'd by a local vendor, I am inclined to have the pipes shipped bare, so I can assure color match on my end as it relates to the other items already PC'd.
For those of us interested in retaining the factory BOV's, please keep us updated. Thanks 4DR :ok:
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I'll try and make that happen but it's looking like that option will cost another $150 or so more due to the small quantities of machining custom mounts for the factory BoV, I'll know more in a week or so.
Best option will be to remove the factory BoV and put in a resistor, I will have a how to pretty soon. :)
1-9 pricing at $750
Delete $260 for the Tial BOV
Delete $20 for powder coating = $470
Add $150 for custom factory BOV mounts....
Equals a revised total of: $620
I'm still in like Flynn with that possible arrangement :smoke:
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Quote from: bpd1151 on September 11, 2013, 01:21:53 AM
1-9 pricing at $750
Delete $260 for the Tial BOV
Delete $20 for powder coating = $470
Add $150 for custom factory BOV mounts....
Equals a revised total of: $620
I'm still in like Flynn with that possible arrangement :smoke:
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No, delete $260 for bov add $410 for bov mounts. Small runs of complicated machined parts is expensive...
I'm waiting for verification of pricing but that was the numbers I was told to expect.
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So the BOV flange will only be for Tial BOV's?
Quote from: QwikSHO on September 11, 2013, 10:05:51 AM
So the BOV flange will only be for Tial BOV's?
Yes, if you want a set of pipes without a BoV it will reduce the price $250 and you'll have to purchase uncoated as well so that you can have someone weld in a new BoV flange.
$480 for no BoV option 1-9 pipes
Man someone needs to buy my mazda. All these parts I want to buy. But promised wife wouldn't buy anything till its gone >:(
Geezuz Mike B.....
My heads dizzy with all of these damn numbers you've tossed out there.
Aye yai yai :doh:
Your own 1st post on pricing states the following:
1-9 Pipes WITH Tial BOV = $750
10+, same as above = $700
Then you go onto stipulate the Tial BOV is: $260
and the powder coat work is: $20
______________________________________________ Correct so far?
But then you say to ADD another $150 (or so) for possible factory BOV mounting points / flanges?
______________________________________________ Still correct so far, yes?
So what the hell are potential buyers adding another $410 for Factory BOV mounts?
And more importantly, what are we adding that $410 amount to? The proposed $750 for 1-9 pipes?
$750 + $410 = $1,160
_________________________________________ Assuming all of the above is correct so far:
$1,160 (above total)
- $250 (deletion of Tial BOV)
_______
$910 (revised total)
But now your saying that buyers can get the pipes altogether, w/o any flanges whatsoever for: $480?
So in essence, guys (like me) are looking at a $430 add on to have the factory BOV flanges installed?
Geezuz, more damn numbers than a used car salesman being tossed around.
For 1-9 Pipes the price will be $750 + shipping with Tial BoV coated
for 10+ Price drops to $700 + shipping. with Tial BoV coated
Take off $20.00 for uncoated.
For 1-9 Pipes the price will be $480 + shipping without BoV uncoated - only option - this is a set of pipes to fit the vehicle without any provisions for a BoV
For 10+ Pipes the price will be $430 + shipping without BoV uncoated - only option - this is a set of pipes to fit the vehicle without any provisions for a BoV
For 1-9 Pipes the price will be $880 + shipping with factory BoV mounts uncoated - only option - this is only a guess at this time, worst case scenario according to what I know today. I can't sell these pipes but you wanted an approximately price.
It is VERY expensive to do cad drawings, and then machine one off parts in limited runs. If I were buying 1000 it would be around $50 per BoV mount, I'll only be buying 2 at a time so the prices goes up massively.
How long is a short rope????
Ossifer... da lass speed sine I saw was 80 mph....(in Texas two days ago!!!)
What would one need to do to add a factory BOV? Is it just a bung, like my wide-band, or is it much more extensive? Or... would there be a way to section out the plastic section that has the factory BOV and join it with hot pipes via silicone hoses/clamps?
Quote from: EcoBrick Bob on September 11, 2013, 02:49:48 PM
How long is a short rope????
Ossifer... da lass speed sine I saw was 80 mph....(in Texas two days ago!!!)
What would one need to do to add a factory BOV? Is it just a bung, like my wide-band, or is it much more extensive? Or... would there be a way to section out the plastic section that has the factory BOV and join it with hot pipes via silicone hoses/clamps?
Bob, walk to your car and look at your factory BoV, unplug it and look at the factory mount. No way to weld plastic to metal and I guess you could cut the factory BoV tube and then cut the unfinished pipe without a BoV provision ($480 option) and then mount some silicone tubes to connect it all. I won't offer that as an option, it's just too rigged IMHO.
Remember the pricing on the BoV is a guess right now and only that, I put in a worst case scenario, it could be $50 I don't know BUT I'm not offering that for sale right now and may never offer it depending on costs.
OK got feedback on the factory BoV mount costs.
The price will be $580 for hot pipes with factory BoV mounts uncoated.
There you go Mike!
In order to do these however I will need 5 sets of hot pipes with stock BoV mounts.
Before that happens though I need to test fit the factory intake box to make sure it clears the new piping. I should be able to do that tomorrow afternoon.
Can one get these powder coated, or will ones with factory BOV be available only uncoated?
damn Ford and using electronic BOV's.
What the hell was so wrong with vacuum-operated ones that have been in cars for YEARS?
Just
Quote from: EcoBrick Bob on September 12, 2013, 10:55:37 PM
Can one get these powder coated, or will ones with factory BOV be available only uncoated?
Sure $20.00 more for coating
As far as vacuum BoV, I have one on my car and it's working fantastic, I have the factory ones zip tied to the harness and if I had an engine cover you'd never see them, as it is I'd probably have to point them out to you.
:)
I'll play with the resistors this weekend, just got back from doing some WOT pulls and tuning fuel. :D
Quote from: 4DRHTRD on September 12, 2013, 10:35:53 PMOK got feedback on the factory BoV mount costs.
The price will be $580 for hot pipes with factory BoV mounts uncoated.
Much, MUCH better.....
At a minimum, I'd like to see 4 others commit so we can green light this.
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You can add me to the list. Mind as well, my meth injection installed didn't turn out well and need a new inlet tube anyways.
Please send me an email to keep me informed of the status.
Are you developing a matching intake as well?
How hard is it to remove the 2 factory BOV's and re-insert them in Hot Pipes?
Quote from: EcoBrick Bob on September 19, 2013, 01:05:07 PM
How hard is it to remove the 2 factory BOV's and re-insert them in Hot Pipes?
Pretty hard, unless you machine a new mount for them in the hot pipes...
Bob, again, go take a look at your pipes and remove the factory BoV
Quote from: peachback50 on September 19, 2013, 12:45:28 PM
You can add me to the list. Mind as well, my meth injection installed didn't turn out well and need a new inlet tube anyways.
Please send me an email to keep me informed of the status.
Are you developing a matching intake as well?
I need to check to make sure the factory intake box will fit with the new routing of the pipes. Just been swamped lately. As far as email updates, please subscribe to this thread and as new info comes I'll post it here. :)
Mine look like they are glued in. That's why I asked.
Quote from: EcoBrick Bob on September 19, 2013, 03:47:27 PM
Mine look like they are glued in. That's why I asked.
They valves unbolt, the mounts are plastic. I'm having to have those mounts replicated in aluminum to be welded to the new aluminum hot pipes :)
Once I have mounts made the factory plastic valve can bolt back in and viola you have factory e-bov again :)
Also, I am assuming one would need to drill a hole for Methanol spray nozzle if one is using a W/M system.
Quote from: EcoBrick Bob on September 19, 2013, 03:52:36 PM
Also, I am assuming one would need to drill a hole for Methanol spray nozzle if one is using a W/M system.
That's up to the user of course. I could put a nozzle mount like my nitrous mount on the pre-TB pipe if people wanted it.
I am likely interested but not ready to purchase until I get to FL... just after 11/1. Prefer powder coating to match under-hood black plastic intake pipes. I don't have time to install here in Ia, and need a late fall project! How much more for the nozzle mount? Could it be used for your nitrous setup or vice versa? Others might want this, so might be easier to design that way and insert a plug for those that are on the fence.
I wouldn't want a plug on mine unless it was on the bottom maybe.
That's where the W/M nozzle goes... slanted forward slightly.
Cool. I thought I had seen some on the side.
Just checking in. How is the hot pipe manufacturing/designing going
? Any projected date for placing orders?
Still working at it, soon though!
Just bumping this back up to the top, so that any of you sitting on the fence about these, it would be great to get a few more committed buyers.
I am in, and have been exchanging dialogue with 4DR behind the scenes on making some progress on these.
Since Mike (4DR) was able to disconnect his factory electric BOV's w/o having any issues, or throwing any DTC's and making the ECM screwy.....
I have decided I am going to go the same route that he has, which is to incorporate the aftermarket, upgraded BOV from Tial Motorsports.
In my case, it will probably be necessary as I just got word today that my ATP Upgraded Turbos have shipped out.
So the resulting higher HP and Boost Pressures will necessitate me rocking the same set up as 4DR.
:bump: So back to the top, this topic goes! :bump:
I have four sets made up, let me get to Sunday and I'll work out pricing details. Working on car all night, running a wrestling tourney tomorrow morning then driving 120 miles to race in the afternoon hopefully.
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As Mike B. knows, I am in... Guess I want to go with factor BOV setup. Also wanting to get the right configuration for the W/M nozzle location... BPD... any ideas? I am awaiting Torrie's input as to whether one an spray sideways and/or in front of the sensor.
OK so here's the updated pricing after all has been said and done, there was a mistake on the earlier price sent to me by the guys making my parts, I verified that the price changed.
No BoV - uncoated - cut and your own hole and weld on mount for BoV of your choice
For 1-9 Pipes the price will be $630 + shipping
for 10+ Price drops to $580 + shipping.
No coating since you're going to have to weld
Factory BoV mounts:
For 1-9 Pipes the price will be $690 + shipping
for 10+ Price drops to $640 + shipping.
add $20.00 for coating
Tial BoV:
For 1-9 Pipes the price will be $890 + shipping
for 10+ Price drops to $840 + shipping.
add $20.00 for coating
All pipes include T clamps and silicone hoses for all the mounts.
I have 4 pipes right now ready to go with meth mounts already configured on them. They made them and drilled/tapped the hole you will have to drill out and re-tap to your liking.
I'm ready to take orders now, send payment to info@ecoboostpowerparts.com and specify a color if you want it powder coated such as gloss black, flat black, white, blue, green etc. Any of the basic color groups are available. If you have a special request let me know and I'll try and make it happen OR you can buy uncoated and have them coated pretty cheaply by your guys
Quote from: EcoBrick Bob on October 11, 2013, 09:14:41 PM
As Mike B. knows, I am in... Guess I want to go with factor BOV setup. Also wanting to get the right configuration for the W/M nozzle location... BPD... any ideas? I am awaiting Torrie's input as to whether one an spray sideways and/or in front of the sensor.
I contacted both Torrie and BPD... Torrie says the W/M spray nozzle needs to be mounted on the bottom, spraying upwards as close to the TB as possible and in front of the sensor. BPD reports that is where his is currently located, as is mine, so that makes 2 of us requesting that location.
The guys copied the exact same location I have my nitrous bung is on my car. In order to make this easier I can include a screw to block that off and then you guys can drill/tap wherever you want. :)
Thanks for the updates.
I know what I have to save up now.
Looks like my ATP shipment is set to arrive this coming Thursday. Following the turbo install, contingent on what he charges me, I will put w/e $$ I have left over, down as a deposit to secure at least one set.
Appreciate all of your effort(s) and dedication to the entire EB platform 4DR.
:bow:
"Sent while on the road, burn'n meth, screeching tires, winding out the gears, & push'n the twins"
I put up the ordering info on my site just click to order:
http://shop.ecoboostpowerparts.com/Ford-Flex-SHO-Lincoln-MKT-MKS-Hot-Pipes-EB-HotPipes.htm (http://shop.ecoboostpowerparts.com/Ford-Flex-SHO-Lincoln-MKT-MKS-Hot-Pipes-EB-HotPipes.htm)
You might want to double check your pricing... unless of course a powder coated set with tial bov mounts really is $1500 lol
Thanks, just fixed it :)
I sent you the dn pmt... do I need to give you any more info? Stock BOV mounts + black powder coat like yours. Will use the electronic Ford BOV's. Paypal pmt has my FL address.
Thanks Mike!
Quote from: EcoBrick Bob on October 16, 2013, 11:17:58 PM
I sent you the dn pmt... do I need to give you any more info? Stock BOV mounts + black powder coat like yours. Will use the electronic Ford BOV's. Paypal pmt has my FL address.
Thanks Mike!
That works
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Here is a picture of the uncoated pipes and factory bov mounts
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Good looking pipes. Will they fit the sport?
I don't believe the intercooler to the crossover or intercooler to turbo is the same on the Explorer Sport. I need to see one up close or better yet try and fit a set on one here in Phoenix.
More pictures
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Mike, My wife has requested that the powder coating on the hot pipes be a Missioni pattern of zig zag black and white... I will send you a pix of her Missioni bicycle...
She also called BPD and he is so excited that he is going to do his whole car in that Zig Zag pattern!!!! (LOL... I hope...)
Looks like a ZZZEEEEEBBBBBRRRRAAAA... :yikes: :yikes: :rottenbanana: :pat: :smiley5: :gathering: :blah: :postwhore: :bangin: :bangin: :bangin:
4DRHTRD......
I anticipate sending a deposit out to you by weeks ends.
I need to keep it off the Wife's proverbial radar though, as Christmas is lurking, and she's already yap'n about expenditures.
Probably gonna mail out a Cashier's Check, or Money Order to you.
Just FYI.
I'm still on the fence at this point as whether to utilize the factory BOV mounted option, or the Tial BOV upgrade.
I am placing inquires with a few Ford Execs I know, to obtain what their understanding is of the PSI ratings for those factory Electric BOV's.
I just let me know, Bob is getting a set as well so that leaves one more. I can airways make more though 8)
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Would you be willing to sell the throttle body piece only? Instead of cutting a hole in my factory pipe for meth nozzle I would rather have a threaded location for it.
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Quote from: ONLYA6 on October 24, 2013, 11:39:16 AM
Would you be willing to sell the throttle body piece only? Instead of cutting a hole in my factory pipe for meth nozzle I would rather have a threaded location for it.
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I'd have to get one made up, I can get you pricing this afternoon.
That's a good idea for all who are doing w/m systems. I have a second Intercooler-TB pipe so I could go back to stock, but a hard- hot pipe would be a better choice. Only issue is that you should check with your W/M supplier to see where they recommend as the best place for the w/m nozzle. From my experience you may want to still drill and tap a hole on the bottom side of the pipe closest to the TB. I plan on doing that and plugging the hole for the Nitrous nozzle. May try that location first and/or experiment with the bottom location. To drill and tap is quite easy. I bought a Vermont tap the size of my nozzle.
I will be installing the Livernois kit. Their suggested placement is on the bottom correct?
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For just the IC to TB it would be $175.00 shipped which includes the silicone pieces, T clamps and uncoated pipe with nitrous mount. $165.00 without the nitrous mount.
Order Placed...... Remaining Balance Sent In Full To 4DRHTRD Today.
So one more piece of the mod puzzle soon to be in place.
Next up is Powder Coating (on my end as I wanted same color match to other pieces I had PC'd locally) then install.
After that, it's new dyno appointment time at LMS to dial all of this stuff in, including the newly installed ATP Turbo Upgrades!
Thanks a bunch to 4DR for getting (yet another) project off the drawing boards, and into the production pipeline.
:thankyou:
Now let's see some other members here placing orders as well..... if the after market world is to continue catching on, and sustaining it's product development and subsequent production.....
Y'all need to support those who support us, and the Ecoboost platform!
By customer demand added a Stainless Steel option for $100.00, builder says it's not the best material to use but if you guys want it, we'll make it! :)
I can't wait to get mine! I've never heard a Lincoln with a BOV.
Yea I think the stainless steel would be a waste of money. I suppose if you have a show car and want to polish it that would be a choice. Aluminum IC pipes have always been the standard pretty much.
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I wonder who requested stainless steel out of curiosity? :dunno:
I know I didn't. :no:
Not Me either!
Got woken up this morning by loud, repeated banging, and door bell ringing this morning.
'Tis was the UPS lady dropping off my Christmas gift to/for the SHO.
My (uncoated) hot pipes have arrived!
Woo-Hoo!!! :dude:
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A lil playing around with them as far as test fitment goes, as well as an overall inventory of the delivered parts to assure all was there......
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Just arrived back home, after having dropped them off at/to my local powder coater, who's performed all of my powder coating not only on the SHO, but other previous projects.
These weren't in my hand(s) for more than 10min after they arrived, before I dropped them off.
I was told to expect them done being PC'd by the end of this week.
So inching ever closer to completing the puzzle on this latest mod, and get'n my butt out to LMS for the newly revised dyno tune.
I would be remiss in my posting, if I didn't acknowledge and thank not only 4DRHTRD for his continued efforts in supporting the Ecoboost platform, but also need to acknowledge and thank all the wonderfully fine and talented folks over at PPE Engineering in Tempe, AZ. for applying their trade as it relates to the production of these!
Thank you to both! :bow: :thankyou: :bow:
I'll post up some post powder coating pics once I get them back.
As always...... stay tuned! :drive:
Just FYI that little pipe with the weird bend that is 2" to 1.5" goes to the front turbo to IC, not to the end of the pipe that attaches to the IC itself. :D
The pipe with the BoV mounts on it goes to the back turbo and has a 2" to 1.5" reduce and then 2" to the front pipe.
If you could take some install pictures or even write a How To I'd love it, I don't have an EB vehicle to put one on to do a write up and I know you LOVE doing those. :)
Quote from: bpd1151 on December 09, 2013, 02:48:41 PM
As always...... stay tuned! :drive:
Can't wait to see them in AND for your trip to LMS!
Mine just arrived last week. Ended up going with a Turbosmart VeePort BOV and ditching the factory valves.
NOT looking forward to all the install time. Turbos, ic pipes, methanol, and downpipes. I have 2 weeks off around Christmas and New Years and most of that time will be in the garage. :-/
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It should be fun! Think of all you will accomplish!
I temporarily installed mine with duct tape... GO RED GREEN!!!!!
Quote from: DJE624 on December 09, 2013, 03:10:04 PM
Quote from: bpd1151 on December 09, 2013, 02:48:41 PM
As always...... stay tuned! :drive:
Can't wait to see them in AND for your trip to LMS!
We definitely will! Congrats on the early Christmas.
Powder Coating completed.....
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Since I work the next 2 nights, I'm gonna try to squeeze in some install time perhaps this Friday, early afternoon.
Depends on my mechanic friend's availability as well.
If not Friday, we discussed Monday for sure. :ok:
That's pretty! I'll bet it will look sweet with the white intake and the carbon engine cover.
Very nice PC on the pipes! :thumb: should look awesome on your SHO.
Looking forward to getting some installation pics... Plz :popcorn: I bought 4DR's and plan install in the next couple of weeks......
Thanks guys!
I am looking to continue transitioning the black/white into & throughout the engine bay.
I believe this latest mod will further enhance that goal.
Besides the aesthetic improvements alone, I am also looking forward to achieving the reassurance that I won't be having to chase down any boost leaks once I update my tune for the ATP turbos.
As far as a "How-To" tutorial goes, no promises, but I'll see what I can do.
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Oooh, pretty... Should look good under the hood.
Quote from: bpd1151 on December 11, 2013, 05:31:00 PM
Powder Coating completed.....
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee231/bpd1151/Upgraded%20Turbos%20and%20Custom%20CAI/IMG_20131211_153024_410_zpsncolpitb.jpg) (http://s229.photobucket.com/user/bpd1151/media/Upgraded%20Turbos%20and%20Custom%20CAI/IMG_20131211_153024_410_zpsncolpitb.jpg.html)
Since I work the next 2 nights, I'm gonna try to squeeze in some install time perhaps this Friday, early afternoon.
Depends on my mechanic friend's availability as well.
If not Friday, we discussed Monday for sure. :ok:
Hurry up with the write up. I'm a little confused on some of this but would like to install ASAP. I'm going to do a little bit this afternoon. Starting with the throttle body to ic pipe
The Hot Pipe install should be pretty straightforward. You are starting at a good place (pipe from intercooler to TB). After you remove each piece, you re-install with hot pipe piece using the silicone connectors that are the right size, and appropriate new clamps.
I would have done an install pix, but I can't install until I get my silicone connectors & clamps. They accidentally didn't send the connectors with the hot pipes.. Long story but they are now at my son's house in IA where I will be late next week.
Quote from: EcoBrick Bob on December 14, 2013, 08:39:27 AM
The Hot Pipe install should be pretty straightforward. You are starting at a good place (pipe from intercooler to TB). After you remove each piece, you re-install with hot pipe piece using the silicone connectors that are the right size, and appropriate new clamps.
I would have done an install pix, but I can't install until I get my silicone connectors & clamps. They accidentally didn't send the connectors with the hot pipes.. Long story but they are now at my son's house in IA where I will be late next week.
I'm not really confused on pipe placement as I am on closing the BOV's to and hooking up all the vacuum lines for the Tial BOV. It also looks a little tight in the back near the rear turbo. Would rather have exact instructions rather than a trial and error. I'll wait if you plan on doing a write up. Not in a huge hurry. But want it on the car before the old lady sees the evidence that I've been spending money.
Midwest supposed to keep getting hammered, EBB. Safe drive back to IA, for the hot pipe installation :)
Quote from: TaurusBuilder on December 14, 2013, 08:54:40 AM
Quote from: EcoBrick Bob on December 14, 2013, 08:39:27 AM
The Hot Pipe install should be pretty straightforward. You are starting at a good place (pipe from intercooler to TB). After you remove each piece, you re-install with hot pipe piece using the silicone connectors that are the right size, and appropriate new clamps.
I would have done an install pix, but I can't install until I get my silicone connectors & clamps. They accidentally didn't send the connectors with the hot pipes.. Long story but they are now at my son's house in IA where I will be late next week.
I'm not really confused on pipe placement as I am on closing the BOV's to and hooking up all the vacuum lines for the Tial BOV. It also looks a little tight in the back near the rear turbo. Would rather have exact instructions rather than a trial and error. I'll wait if you plan on doing a write up. Not in a huge hurry. But want it on the car before the old lady sees the evidence that I've been spending money.
I don't have the Tial BOV, which means my info wouldn't help you much. Forgot about you getting 4 DR's. He will have to walk you through it. Did he send you the resistor to handle the stock BOV's? The Nitrous hole across from the sensor in the pipe from IC to TB will need to be plugged, if 4DR didn't send a plug with the system. Mine came with that hole also, but BPD's didn't. What I found that fit is a 5/16" 24 bolt 3/4" long that I got at Auto Zone. Came in a package of 3. Because the threaded part needs only to be about 3/8" long ( length not available - bought shortest I could find), I cut it off before permanently installing. Also used some sealant (oil resistant type) during final tightening. I would have rather used a brass plug, but couldn't find any that small and with the correct thread pattern. Before I actually install that pipe, I am going to drill a 1/8" 27 NPT hole which is the size of my Methanol Spray nozzle(s). That 11/32" hole will be drilled in the bottom of the pipe as far forward as possible, just behind the silicone connector to the TB. I have the proper NPT tap for the threads (from Amazon).
Quote from: SHOdded on December 14, 2013, 10:01:22 AM
Midwest supposed to keep getting hammered, EBB. Safe drive back to IA, for the hot pipe installation :)
Leaving Tuesday. First night just north of you. 2nd night near Rockford, IL ( business meeting Thurs AM) - and hopefully IA late Thurs Afternoon. Snow I can handle... HATE ICE!
Quote from: EcoBrick Bob on December 14, 2013, 10:03:33 AM
Quote from: TaurusBuilder on December 14, 2013, 08:54:40 AM
Quote from: EcoBrick Bob on December 14, 2013, 08:39:27 AM
The Hot Pipe install should be pretty straightforward. You are starting at a good place (pipe from intercooler to TB). After you remove each piece, you re-install with hot pipe piece using the silicone connectors that are the right size, and appropriate new clamps.
I would have done an install pix, but I can't install until I get my silicone connectors & clamps. They accidentally didn't send the connectors with the hot pipes.. Long story but they are now at my son's house in IA where I will be late next week.
I'm not really confused on pipe placement as I am on closing the BOV's to and hooking up all the vacuum lines for the Tial BOV. It also looks a little tight in the back near the rear turbo. Would rather have exact instructions rather than a trial and error. I'll wait if you plan on doing a write up. Not in a huge hurry. But want it on the car before the old lady sees the evidence that I've been spending money.
I don't have the Tial BOV, which means my info wouldn't help you much. Forgot about you getting 4 DR's. He will have to walk you through it. Did he send you the resistor to handle the stock BOV's? The Nitrous hole across from the sensor in the pipe from IC to TB will need to be plugged, if 4DR didn't send a plug with the system. Mine came with that hole also, but BPD's didn't. What I found that fit is a 5/16" 24 bolt 3/4" long that I got at Auto Zone. Came in a package of 3. Because the threaded part needs only to be about 3/8" long ( length not available - bought shortest I could find), I cut it off before permanently installing. Also used some sealant (oil resistant type) during final tightening. I would have rather used a brass plug, but couldn't find any that small and with the correct thread pattern. Before I actually install that pipe, I am going to drill a 1/8" 27 NPT hole which is the size of my Methanol Spray nozzle(s). That 11/32" hole will be drilled in the bottom of the pipe as far forward as possible, just behind the silicone connector to the TB. I have the proper NPT tap for the threads (from Amazon).
Mine came like bdp's. Without the hole. I guess I'll just have to figure it out. But it didn't come with resistors or anything. Just pipes and clamps and such. The way 4dr explained it, I should pretty much follow the steps for the VTA only change 1 parts of it. He sent it to me. But I like dummy proof so I can see it. And unfortunately the shops around here are geared toward imports so they look a little confused when I tell them what I got. Will see. Today's mod is the LMS down pipes. Car is on the rack now
Quote from: TaurusBuilder on December 14, 2013, 10:21:29 AM
Quote from: EcoBrick Bob on December 14, 2013, 10:03:33 AM
Quote from: TaurusBuilder on December 14, 2013, 08:54:40 AM
Quote from: EcoBrick Bob on December 14, 2013, 08:39:27 AM
The Hot Pipe install should be pretty straightforward. You are starting at a good place (pipe from intercooler to TB). After you remove each piece, you re-install with hot pipe piece using the silicone connectors that are the right size, and appropriate new clamps.
I would have done an install pix, but I can't install until I get my silicone connectors & clamps. They accidentally didn't send the connectors with the hot pipes.. Long story but they are now at my son's house in IA where I will be late next week.
I'm not really confused on pipe placement as I am on closing the BOV's to and hooking up all the vacuum lines for the Tial BOV. It also looks a little tight in the back near the rear turbo. Would rather have exact instructions rather than a trial and error. I'll wait if you plan on doing a write up. Not in a huge hurry. But want it on the car before the old lady sees the evidence that I've been spending money.
I don't have the Tial BOV, which means my info wouldn't help you much. Forgot about you getting 4 DR's. He will have to walk you through it. Did he send you the resistor to handle the stock BOV's? The Nitrous hole across from the sensor in the pipe from IC to TB will need to be plugged, if 4DR didn't send a plug with the system. Mine came with that hole also, but BPD's didn't. What I found that fit is a 5/16" 24 bolt 3/4" long that I got at Auto Zone. Came in a package of 3. Because the threaded part needs only to be about 3/8" long ( length not available - bought shortest I could find), I cut it off before permanently installing. Also used some sealant (oil resistant type) during final tightening. I would have rather used a brass plug, but couldn't find any that small and with the correct thread pattern. Before I actually install that pipe, I am going to drill a 1/8" 27 NPT hole which is the size of my Methanol Spray nozzle(s). That 11/32" hole will be drilled in the bottom of the pipe as far forward as possible, just behind the silicone connector to the TB. I have the proper NPT tap for the threads (from Amazon).
Mine came like bdp's. Without the hole. I guess I'll just have to figure it out. But it didn't come with resistors or anything. Just pipes and clamps and such. The way 4dr explained it, I should pretty much follow the steps for the VTA only change 1 parts of it. He sent it to me. But I like dummy proof so I can see it. And unfortunately the shops around here are geared toward imports so they look a little confused when I tell them what I got. Will see. Today's mod is the LMS down pipes. Car is on the rack now
Wish mine didn't have the hole... It is what it is.
Greg.....
I did NOT get the aftermarket BOV w/ these pipes.
As you can plainly see in my picture, I have the flanges to use the stock, electric BOV's.
Hopefully my mechanic friend finishes up plowing all the snow that recently fell.....
If so, we will be in aiming for install Monday morning.
However, I do work Monday and Tuesday night, therefore the soonest any right up maybe coming from me, would be Wednesday or Thursday of next week.
At the soonest.
But like EBB previously stated, the install looks fairly straightforward and merely involves removing the stock pieces and reinstalling the new pipes in the same spots.
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OK, let me clear some things up:
1. The first four set of pipes had the nitrous hole/mount put into them, I didn't ask for it he just copied my pipes.
2. For the Tial BoV just connect into a post throttle body boost source, easiest way is to cut the brake booster line and T it to a 5/16" line to the Tial. Leave the factory BoV connected to the harness and just zip tie, they fit easily under the factory cover, you can't see them due to the gigantic piece of plastic... :) As Bob found you just take the pipe with the nitrous hole down to the local hardware store and get a screw. I had the pipes built and drop shipped from PPE, they didn't have access to put a screw in the pack unfortunately.
3. The assembly is pretty straight forward:
The 3" to 2.5" pipe goes from the TB (3") to Intercooler (2.5") - short fat bent one with TIP sensor mount
The 1.5" to 2" short slightly bent pipe goes to the front turbo and will have the 1.5" straight on one side and 2" straight on the other side to go to the intercooler.
The pipe with the mounting tab goes to the back turbo and requires a 1.5" to 2" reducer to go to the turbo.
The left over pipe connects to the back turbo pipe and then to the intercooler, it uses the 2" hump hose and 2" straight, hump hose to the other pipe and 2" straight to the Intercooler.
For the factory BoV pipes just mount them with factory screws and then connect to harness, they vent to atmosphere
For the Tial, just hook to the boost source I stated above. The key is the Tial must be connected to a vacuum/boost source AFTER the throttle body.
If the pipes hit the factory air box you can clearance the box to fit, the opening is on the "outside" of the filter so if you suck in air there it's not a problem due to being filtered after.
Thanks for the clarification. I'm going to try it 2morw. Super excited.
No one has these for the Xsport, right?
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I don't believe there is a US manufacturer... possibly UK or China, but I think the shipping would be prohibitive.
Quote from: bigmoneycloser on December 14, 2013, 03:06:56 PM
No one has these for the Xsport, right?
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I need to find somebody who owns explorer sport in Arizona so that I can test but these
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Stuck in jersey...
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Quote from: 4DRHTRD on December 14, 2013, 03:25:41 PM
Quote from: bigmoneycloser on December 14, 2013, 03:06:56 PM
No one has these for the Xsport, right?
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I need to find somebody who owns explorer sport in Arizona so that I can test but these
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Where is AZ?
Phoenix
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Three question. What about ceramic coating like jet hot, what the hell is that thing hanging off the side of the factory intake before the throttle body. And why are you calling these hot pipes..they support the cold side of the turbo. Intercooler or intake piping makes much more sense. I was very confused about what you were selling from the topic header. After seeing the pictures it was quickly cleared up.. thank,
Quote from: panther427 on December 14, 2013, 09:15:53 PM
Three question. What about ceramic coating like jet hot, what the hell is that thing hanging off the side of the factory intake before the throttle body. And why are you calling these hot pipes..they support the cold side of the turbo. Intercooler or intake piping makes much more sense. I was very confused about what you were selling from the topic header. After seeing the pictures it was quickly cleared up.. thank,
It's just what the "new" name is for the pressurized piping. The cold pipes are actually the pre-turbo pipes, hot pipes are post turbo unless you're thinking exhaust, that's called a manifold and a downpipe.
:)
The thing hanging off the pipe pre throttle body is a Tial blow off valve to replace the factory ones.
4DRHTRD ..... Can you PM Me a Price for MY 13 SHO with the Tial BOV ....... BUT I want mine Powder Coated Fire Engine Red .
Quote from: kbeck59 on January 28, 2014, 11:42:47 PM
4DRHTRD ..... Can you PM Me a Price for MY 13 SHO with the TIal BOV ....... BUT I want mine Powder Coated Fire Engine Red .
Just use my site shop.ecoboostpowerparts.com to get the pricing.
Thanks!
Mike
Will do
Any update on getting these for the xsport?
Thx
Quote from: bigmoneycloser on February 16, 2014, 12:06:58 PM
Any update on getting these for the xsport?
Thx
Hopefully Mike can fill us in on this. PPE is involved in the project also. Mike is sending direct email inquires to folks (not necessarily on the forum) offering cash incentive for use of an Explorer to do the development. So he is moving ahead actively, just need the vehicle for about 2 days.... Anyone interested contact Mike directly.
Quote from: bigmoneycloser on February 16, 2014, 12:06:58 PM
Any update on getting these for the xsport?
Thx
Xsport going in for hot pipes to hopefully be test fitted on Monday but I don't know if he'll have time to review the hot pipes as well as we only have it for a few hours.
Do you mean going in for down pipes? And might not have time for hot pipes?
Thanks.
If I lived in AZ, we would have had this done already.. LoL
Quote from: bigmoneycloser on February 16, 2014, 02:53:11 PM
Do you mean going in for down pipes? And might not have time for hot pipes?
Thanks.
If I lived in AZ, we would have had this done already.. LoL
I found a guy on craigslist selling his explorer sport, we're paying him to come down for a day to fit some SHO downpipes to that we can modify to fix the xsport, based off the pictures the turbo portion is the same, just the engine cradle requires a "hump" to be made. Hoping to get them done tomorrow!
I don't think we'll have time to test fit a set of hot pipes as he doesn't have but a few hours for us to use his car.
For an extra $100, you think he would let you keep an extra day to do hot pipes?
I'd paypal you the $100?
Quote from: bigmoneycloser on February 16, 2014, 03:07:18 PM
For an extra $100, you think he would let you keep an extra day to do hot pipes?
I'd paypal you the $100?
LOL, I love this forum.
Sending money to complete strangers to get performance parts built, FTW!
It's probably a good thing I'm so far away... Or I would be in trouble..
And this Xsport would be a fire breathing dragon.. lol
I have to remind myself, it's my DD and my kid carter.. lol also that I'm not a kid anymore... Hahaha
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Quote from: bigmoneycloser on February 16, 2014, 09:27:40 PM
It's probably a good thing I'm so far away... Or I would be in trouble..
And this Xsport would be a fire breathing dragon.. lol
I have to remind myself, it's my DD and my kid carter.. lol also that I'm not a kid anymore... Hahaha
I'm not a kid either.... I have a sedate 4DR sedan driven by an old fart that is starting to be quick, so why not a fire breathing DD and kid carter?...
Sounds like the plan to me!
:beer2:
That's why i keep ignoring that voice and keep mod'in..
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Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on February 16, 2014, 09:22:13 PM
Quote from: bigmoneycloser on February 16, 2014, 03:07:18 PM
For an extra $100, you think he would let you keep an extra day to do hot pipes?
I'd paypal you the $100?
LOL, I love this forum.
Sending money to complete strangers to get performance parts built, FTW!
STRANGERS ? ?
Ya mean mean to tell me you don't get that WARM n FUZZY feeling when your on here with those of us that seem to LIVE here ?
Quote from: bigmoneycloser on February 16, 2014, 09:27:40 PM
It's probably a good thing I'm so far away... Or I would be in trouble..
And this Xsport would be a fire breathing dragon.. lol
I have to remind myself, it's my DD and my kid carter.. lol also that I'm not a kid anymore... Hahaha
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Kids don't own Explorer Sports...
You're the big money closer.
Go big or go home!
Oh wait, I'm probably not helping here, lol.
:rofl2:
This forum doesn't help my addiction at all... Down pipes, hot pipes, turbos, tunes, fuel upgrades..
And list goes on..
Summer is coming tho and I will switch gears a little bit as my new two wheel ride should be ready to go in a few more months..
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I think I'd be in on some of the charge air (hot) pipes Mike. I've made several sets for other cars but I've seen your work and it's better than mine :-[
Quote from: bigmoneycloser on February 16, 2014, 03:07:18 PM
For an extra $100, you think he would let you keep an extra day to do hot pipes?
I'd paypal you the $100?
I'm trying!
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