Intrested in purchasing the Z23 powerstop kit (The shacking and vibration from the stockers are killing me). But I noticed before purchasing that certain websites list 2 kits, K6375 and K5584.
The K6375 kit replaces vehicles with front rotor size of 13.86in.
The K5584 kit replaces vehicles with 12.8in
Would I be correct in purchasing the K6375 with the 13.86in front rotor. My vehicle is a 2013 SHO non pp.
I called Powerstop but they said I would have to measure the stock rotor to ensure fitment. Currently I dont have the car to do this. Anyone have this kit and can help Id apperciate it.
The NON PP has the smaller diameter rotors,best of luck. Z
I believe the K5584 is for 2010-12 MYs, the K6375 for 2013+. Hence the rotor size difference.
K6375 (http://www.powerstop.com/product/power-stop-z16-kit/#y=2015&mk=FORD&mo=TAURUS%20SHO)
Front and Rear
Notes: Z23 Evolution Sport Performance 1-Click Brake Kit; Front/Rear;, w/352mm Front Rotors
K5584 (http://www.powerstop.com/product/power-stop-z16-kit/#y=2012&mk=FORD&mo=TAURUS)
Front and Rear
Notes: Z23 Evolution Sport Performance 1-Click Brake Kit; Front/Rear;, Without Performance Package
Listed applications
http://www.powerstop.com/?s=k6375 (http://www.powerstop.com/?s=k6375)
http://www.powerstop.com/?s=k5584 (http://www.powerstop.com/?s=k5584)
Thank looks like the K6375 kit it is then. Hopefully going powerstop is not a mistake.
Quote from: SHOdded on April 18, 2017, 07:12:23 AM
I believe the K5584 is for 2010-12 MYs, the K6375 for 2013+. Hence the rotor size difference.
K6375 (http://www.powerstop.com/product/power-stop-z16-kit/#y=2015&mk=FORD&mo=TAURUS%20SHO)
Front and Rear
Notes: Z23 Evolution Sport Performance 1-Click Brake Kit; Front/Rear;, w/352mm Front Rotors
K5584 (http://www.powerstop.com/product/power-stop-z16-kit/#y=2012&mk=FORD&mo=TAURUS)
Front and Rear
Notes: Z23 Evolution Sport Performance 1-Click Brake Kit; Front/Rear;, Without Performance Package
Listed applications
http://www.powerstop.com/?s=k6375 (http://www.powerstop.com/?s=k6375)
http://www.powerstop.com/?s=k5584 (http://www.powerstop.com/?s=k5584)
It is a good kit for DD, not for autox or racing.
Carpe Diem!
I'm running the Z23 K6375 kit on my Flex and it made a WORLD of difference over my stock setup. I know some have mixed feelings on Cross-drilled/Slotted setups, but I am a happy camper with mine, and also run them on my Stealth TT AWD.
The big note I kept seeing during my research phase on this was HD brakes or not. PP SHO's and EB Flex have the HD package, so if you're not PP then you are more than likely gonna need to go with the K5584 kit.
And no post is complete without pics...so here!
(https://s19.postimg.org/hqpr1c1rz/20170304_184638.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/hqpr1c1rz/)
(https://s19.postimg.org/gppic7ksf/20170304_185738_1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/gppic7ksf/)
(https://s19.postimg.org/bsbxr3itb/20170305_123812.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/bsbxr3itb/)
(https://s19.postimg.org/hhs6beozj/20170305_123826.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/hhs6beozj/)
(https://s19.postimg.org/eoyyrdon3/20170305_125150.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/eoyyrdon3/)
My 2 Cents..
If you even think about Driving Hard, Get the EBC Stage 3 or 4,
I now swear by the 4, even on the NON PP 2010,
Did the Power Stop package on the 2011, AND what happened
to me with less than 4000 Miles and 10 Laps at a track day...
Tore the Pads right off at a weird angle on both fronts, Drove home with one
side grinding metal to metal, "Looking for the pics of the end result", I will post em
if i can find them.
Even if you just go for the Front Set Up First...add the rears later
http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,4892.msg77894.html#msg77894 (http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,4892.msg77894.html#msg77894)
2013+ non PP and PP... both non PP and PP, have the same sized 13.9" rotors
2010 - 2012 non PP has the smaller 12.9" rotors
2010 - 2012 PP has the 13.9" rotors
Quote from: djxfactor on April 19, 2017, 02:08:18 PM
I'm running the Z23 K6375 kit on my Flex and it made a WORLD of difference over my stock setup. I know some have mixed feelings on Cross-drilled/Slotted setups, but I am a happy camper with mine, and also run them on my Stealth TT AWD.
The big note I kept seeing during my research phase on this was HD brakes or not. PP SHO's and EB Flex have the HD package, so if you're not PP then you are more than likely gonna need to go with the K5584 kit.
And no post is complete without pics...so here!
(https://s19.postimg.org/hqpr1c1rz/20170304_184638.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/hqpr1c1rz/)
(https://s19.postimg.org/gppic7ksf/20170304_185738_1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/gppic7ksf/)
(https://s19.postimg.org/bsbxr3itb/20170305_123812.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/bsbxr3itb/)
(https://s19.postimg.org/hhs6beozj/20170305_123826.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/hhs6beozj/)
(https://s19.postimg.org/eoyyrdon3/20170305_125150.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/eoyyrdon3/)
@ djxfactor Sweet Setup,enjoy. Z :thumb:
Totally agree with this, I will be changing my powerstops out after a year on my 2011. I will say that it does seem people with 2013+ seem to be much happier with the kit.
Quote from: irondoor19 on April 19, 2017, 03:46:37 PM
My 2 Cents..
If you even think about Driving Hard, Get the EBC Stage 3 or 4,
I now swear by the 4, even on the NON PP 2010,
Did the Power Stop package on the 2011, AND what happened
to me with less than 4000 Miles and 10 Laps at a track day...
Tore the Pads right off at a weird angle on both fronts, Drove home with one
side grinding metal to metal, "Looking for the pics of the end result", I will post em
if i can find them.
Even if you just go for the Front Set Up First...add the rears later
Quote from: ZSHO on April 18, 2017, 07:09:54 AM
The NON PP has the smaller diameter rotors,best of luck. Z
Wrong.
2010-2012 have the smaller rotors.
2013+ have the same rotor size. Nonpp and PP difference is in the brake pads.
Quote from: Joeyfuzz911 on July 25, 2017, 09:47:56 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on April 18, 2017, 07:09:54 AM
The NON PP has the smaller diameter rotors,best of luck. Z
Wrong.
2010-2012 have the smaller rotors.
2013+ have the same rotor size. Nonpp and PP difference is in the brake pads.
@-Joeyfuzz911 What type of vehicle do you have? FYI There were some revisions made since 2013!!
It seems you've been lurking around some bit!!
Due setup an INTRO!!. Z
https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/board,14.0.html (https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/board,14.0.html)
I have a 2014 nonpp.
Just got the power stop kit w/ 13.9 front and 13.6 inch rear rotors myself a week ago.
Plan to install them in about a month. Going to use up the stockers more.
Did you get the daily driver or the top cop kit?
Top Cop
https://www.powerstop.com/product/power-stop-z37-kit/#y=2014&mk=FORD&mo=TAURUS%20SHO (https://www.powerstop.com/product/power-stop-z37-kit/#y=2014&mk=FORD&mo=TAURUS%20SHO)
Daily
https://www.powerstop.com/product/power-stop-z16-kit/#y=2014&mk=FORD&mo=TAURUS%20SHO (https://www.powerstop.com/product/power-stop-z16-kit/#y=2014&mk=FORD&mo=TAURUS%20SHO)
The daily driver kit.
Didn't even know about the top cop kit until a week after. It's not a big deal. The only difference is in brake pads right?
Yesssss but ... :D For track or HD driving, I would rather have the Top Cop pads.
The top cop kits is awesome, I put it in our 13
Wonder how the top cop pad kit would be vs the PP 13 brakes?
wish I would have known about the top cop pads. ive had my kit on my car since the beginning of the year couldn't deal with the bad vibration of stock stuff anymore. Over all I like PowerStop looking at getting them for my mustang.
Quote from: Sbouvia on August 11, 2017, 07:48:13 PM
The top cop kits is awesome, I put it in our 13
What are the pads made out of on the top cop?
How is the dust?
Not much info out there on the Top Cop pads - ...
(https://cdn.powerstop.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Z37feature1.jpg)
I believe they are of Ceramic compound (low dust) brake pads. Z
POWER STOP Z371611 Z37 Top Cop Severe Duty; Includes hardware & brake lube Info
Front; OE Ceramic
[Include brake pad abutment clips
Stainless steel shims for quiet operation
Quiet, low-dust ceramic formula
20 percent more stopping power than other brands.
POWER STOP Z371611 Z37 Top Cop Severe Duty; Includes hardware & brake lube Info
Front; OE Ceramic
$42.79
http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=5269245&cc=1503823&jsn=10546 (http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=5269245&cc=1503823&jsn=10546)
http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,brake+&+wheel+hub,brake+pad,1684 (http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,brake+&+wheel+hub,brake+pad,1684)
Im going to be getting me a powerstop kit off amazon in the near future. When i had my wheel off during my PTU fluid change i noticed the pad was pretty low.
Might as well change them all.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O6QIMT0/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I3HHKN6H9HK9AE&colid=1NZ51J9D0ESMM (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O6QIMT0/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I3HHKN6H9HK9AE&colid=1NZ51J9D0ESMM)
going with that setup. will be great for cruising and having fun which is what I use mine for.
FoMoCoSho the dust was not bad after the break in. The break in they recommend made some serious dust. I took off all 4 wheels, cleaned and polished before I put the brakes on, so the wheels were super clean prior to the kit be installed. I took them off after the break in and did the same thing, there was some serious dust. After that time the dust was no worse than original. I followed the break in procedure on the power stop site verbatim. The only issue I had was the chirpers*(auto correct got me) for the front pads did not work, so I cut them off.
Quote from: gtmorgan23 on October 12, 2017, 04:54:01 PM
Im going to be getting me a powerstop kit off amazon in the near future. When i had my wheel off during my PTU fluid change i noticed the pad was pretty low.
Might as well change them all.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O6QIMT0/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I3HHKN6H9HK9AE&colid=1NZ51J9D0ESMM (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O6QIMT0/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I3HHKN6H9HK9AE&colid=1NZ51J9D0ESMM)
going with that setup. will be great for cruising and having fun which is what I use mine for.
Top Cop is in my cart and about $12.00 more...
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00O6QHY4E/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2YJSV4O9ELLJ6&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00O6QHY4E/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2YJSV4O9ELLJ6&psc=1)
Will be good to have a review soon! Since they are rated for cop/fleet duty, I sure hope they perform.
I just ordered the Top Cop kit from Carid. They were super helpful. They even called Powerstop for me to verify fitment on 2013 PP SHO. Then they price matched the lowest price I found on Amazon. Good people there. I'll let you all know how good they perform after I install. Gotta wait for the caliber paint I ordered too lol. Then wait 24 hours to drive her so it can set up.
Good luck! Hope it all works out delightfully :D
Sub
Well after having the Top Cop pads on for a little bit, I can say that I'm really happy with them. They bring her to a stop much better than the stock did and really haven't noticed a increase in dust. Wet weather here lately and she slows down and stops much better IMHO.
Quote from: Bronco2fan on December 19, 2017, 06:12:34 PM
Well after having the Top Cop pads on for a little bit, I can say that I'm really happy with them. They bring her to a stop much better than the stock did and really haven't noticed a increase in dust. Wet weather here lately and she slows down and stops much better IMHO.
Some pics(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171219/0d6e4c5e3c8aee1ab10df842bff4da1a.jpg)
Sent from my LGLS991 using Tapatalk
Quote from: Bronco2fan on December 19, 2017, 06:15:41 PM
Quote from: Bronco2fan on December 19, 2017, 06:12:34 PM
Well after having the Top Cop pads on for a little bit, I can say that I'm really happy with them. They bring her to a stop much better than the stock did and really haven't noticed a increase in dust. Wet weather here lately and she slows down and stops much better IMHO.
Some pics(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171219/0d6e4c5e3c8aee1ab10df842bff4da1a.jpg)
Sent from my LGLS991 using Tapatalk
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171219/50c9c8e4f7ad8dcca6663cd4edc1e8bb.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171219/f2929eb882b41d57c991c3ea29242b9b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171219/e28fd6924372383afd8718c528d43a32.jpg)
Sent from my LGLS991 using Tapatalk
Glad u like em!
Quote from: Bronco2fan on December 19, 2017, 06:16:57 PM
Quote from: Bronco2fan on December 19, 2017, 06:15:41 PM
Quote from: Bronco2fan on December 19, 2017, 06:12:34 PM
Well after having the Top Cop pads on for a little bit, I can say that I'm really happy with them. They bring her to a stop much better than the stock did and really haven't noticed a increase in dust. Wet weather here lately and she slows down and stops much better IMHO.
Some pics(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171219/0d6e4c5e3c8aee1ab10df842bff4da1a.jpg)
Sent from my LGLS991 using Tapatalk
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171219/50c9c8e4f7ad8dcca6663cd4edc1e8bb.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171219/f2929eb882b41d57c991c3ea29242b9b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171219/e28fd6924372383afd8718c528d43a32.jpg)
Sent from my LGLS991 using Tapatalk
Really heavy duty rotors too. Couldn't believe how much they weighed. Old off new on, no problem.
Sent from my LGLS991 using Tapatalk
Man, those factory wheels really show off the brakes. I kinda want to see how they'd look on a black, 2014 MKS, since I just did brakes on my car and painted the calipers.
Quote from: Agentlongwood on December 20, 2017, 09:49:27 AM
Man, those factory wheels really show off the brakes. I kinda want to see how they'd look on a black, 2014 MKS, since I just did brakes on my car and painted the calipers.
I did a wheel swap in the garage and I didn't like it.
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on December 20, 2017, 11:37:44 AM
I did a wheel swap in the garage and I didn't like it.
Well maybe it'll look good on a 2013+, if it's black... Dang it, let me live in my fantasy world, lol.
Quote from: Agentlongwood on December 20, 2017, 01:35:32 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on December 20, 2017, 11:37:44 AM
I did a wheel swap in the garage and I didn't like it.
Well maybe it'll look good on a 2013+, if it's black... Dang it, let me live in my fantasy world, lol.
Yes, but he should've taken pics and posted them for you lol.
Sent from my LGLS991 using Tapatalk
Quote from: Bronco2fan on December 19, 2017, 06:18:45 PM
Really heavy duty rotors too. Couldn't believe how much they weighed. Old off new on, no problem.
Sent from my LGLS991 using Tapatalk
So a few months later, you still like these? Anything you'd change? I'm in need of a full brake job and am considering this setup (D&S Rotors w/ TopCops) after reading on the forums tonight.
Do you happen to remember if you had to do a custom kit from CarID or if they have something ready to order? I couldn't find any mention of TopCop pads on their site in a kit for the SHO. I figured I can call and find out whats up Monday but any info you can remember would be greatly appreciated.
I'm impressed with how well they perform and wouldn't change anything. Some say it's iffy about the slotted rotors performance wise, but I like them. Plus they make her look awesome lol.
You have to ask the sales guy specifically for the package. And you can add or remove from it. Plus they price match.
Good luck and post pics when you're done.
Sent from my LGLS991 using Tapatalk
Quote from: Bronco2fan on December 20, 2017, 01:40:45 PM
Quote from: Agentlongwood on December 20, 2017, 01:35:32 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on December 20, 2017, 11:37:44 AM
I did a wheel swap in the garage and I didn't like it.
Well maybe it'll look good on a 2013+, if it's black... Dang it, let me live in my fantasy world, lol.
Yes, but he should've taken pics and posted them for you lol.
Sent from my LGLS991 using Tapatalk
Sorry, had an overzealous delete session on my phone and accidentally deleted my text thread with Brad shortly after I sent them.
Brad may have the pics in his thread if it goes back far enough
So Malfunction, did my info help you any or are they still saying they don't know?
Still waiting on CarID to get back to me, sent an email and they were clueless. I called in and they said they had to call PowerStop and call me back, planning on calling them today. I also emailed Stage3 and they replied that PS discontinued the TopCop kit and if I can get it from elsewhere to do it as they can't price match the Amazon.
Have you tried here? You may have to piece it together but this is the product. https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,brake+&+wheel+hub,brake+pad,1684 (https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,brake+&+wheel+hub,brake+pad,1684)
Quote from: Bronco2fan on March 23, 2018, 02:17:18 PM
Have you tried here? You may have to piece it together but this is the product. https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,brake+&+wheel+hub,brake+pad,1684 (https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,brake+&+wheel+hub,brake+pad,1684)
I looked at them for the kit + the pads, obviously it was more expensive. I didn't think about putting my own kit together. The only bad thing about RA is they want to charge me $50 for shipping, but they do have a $30 rebate (not sure if its on the kit only though)
Well you may just have to order it from Amazon or someone and wait for it to be in stock. It's a popular kit. But if you need it badly, piece it.
Good luck with it.
Sent from my LGLS991 using Tapatalk
Well, I was able to get the setup ordered from RockAuto for less than what a kit costs. I ordered the TopCop pads front and back and then the drilled/slotted rotors for ~$350 shipped. The "performance kit" is ~$400, so this worked out much better. Here's the part list for those interested:
- POWER STOP Z371611 Z37 Top Cop Severe Duty; Includes hardware & brake lube Info - $41.89
- POWER STOP Z371612 Z37 Top Cop Severe Duty; Includes hardware & brake lube Info - $34.79
- POWER STOP AR85142XPR Extreme Performance Drilled and Slotted (REAR x2) - $109.98
- POWER STOP AR85141XPR Extreme Performance Drilled and Slotted (FRONT x2) - $131.58
- Shipping - $31.97
First brake job done on the car, which is a 2013 and ~45k on the odo. Let me tell you about how much I love loctite and rust. After I found a break bar that was worthy and bought me a t40 torx for the rotor bolt, I went to town. Front driver was first up, easy once I got a break bar to get the caliper bolts off. I did have to use a sledge instead of my rubber mallet on all rotors to get them off. My neighbors LOVE me. The rear driver same story as far as PITA level, although instead of the C clamp for compressing the calipers I had to use the caliper tool that twists/compresses for the ebrake to get the caliper pistons backed in. Tool was rented it form Votozone, no big deal. The time that gave me fits and turned this in to a two day ordeal with the passenger rear. Got it all taken apart, went to do the torx... stripped on me. Everything I tried, couldn't get the SOB out. It was getting dark, left it for the weekend as we had to take a road trip for a volleyball tournament 3 hours away at 5AM. Came back to it Monday with a drill, a couple sharp bits and drilled it out. Rest of the job was a breeze though. Did my bedding on them just a little bit ago, I think I'll like them. I did notice a new issue though, unrelated to the brakes. The passenger side toe link bushing looks to be shot. Wondering if this is the cause of a new popping noise I hear when I take a turn or pull in the drive way. It seems to have started after getting my car aligned... coincidence? IDK.. Anyway, here's pics.
Looks good, I really like how the rotors look in the rims. Sorry it took you so long to get the package and install. I think mine was like 2 hours, so I feel lucky now. Anyhow, she looks sharp. Now you need black calibers lol.
Quote from: malfuncion on April 03, 2018, 04:45:20 PM
Well, I was able to get the setup ordered from RockAuto for less than what a kit costs. I ordered the TopCop pads front and back and then the drilled/slotted rotors for ~$350 shipped. The "performance kit" is ~$400, so this worked out much better. Here's the part list for those interested:
- POWER STOP Z371611 Z37 Top Cop Severe Duty; Includes hardware & brake lube Info - $41.89
- POWER STOP Z371612 Z37 Top Cop Severe Duty; Includes hardware & brake lube Info - $34.79
- POWER STOP AR85142XPR Extreme Performance Drilled and Slotted (REAR x2) - $109.98
- POWER STOP AR85141XPR Extreme Performance Drilled and Slotted (FRONT x2) - $131.58
- Shipping - $31.97
First brake job done on the car, which is a 2013 and ~45k on the odo. Let me tell you about how much I love loctite and rust.
After I found a break bar that was worthy and bought me a t40 torx for the rotor bolt, I went to town. Front driver was first up, easy once I got a break bar to get the caliper bolts off. I did have to use a sledge instead of my rubber mallet on all rotors to get them off. My neighbors LOVE me. The rear driver same story as far as PITA level, although instead of the C clamp for compressing the calipers I had to use the caliper tool that twists/compresses for the ebrake to get the caliper pistons backed in. Tool was rented it form Votozone, no big deal.
The time that gave me fits and turned this in to a two day ordeal with the passenger rear. Got it all taken apart, went to do the torx... stripped on me. Everything I tried, couldn't get the SOB out. It was getting dark, left it for the weekend as we had to take a road trip for a volleyball tournament 3 hours away at 5AM. Came back to it Monday with a drill, a couple sharp bits and drilled it out. Rest of the job was a breeze though.
Did my bedding on them just a little bit ago, I think I'll like them. I did notice a new issue though, unrelated to the brakes. The passenger side toe link bushing looks to be shot. Wondering if this is the cause of a new popping noise I hear when I take a turn or pull in the drive way. It seems to have started after getting my car aligned... coincidence? IDK..
Anyway, here's pics.
FWIW, I've always had better luck using whatever standard or metric hex that fit's in a torx fastener than a torx bit itself.
Quote from: Bronco2fan on April 03, 2018, 05:40:32 PM
Looks good, I really like how the rotors look in the rims. Sorry it took you so long to get the package and install. I think mine was like 2 hours, so I feel lucky now. Anyhow, she looks sharp. Now you need black calibers lol.
Thanks. Definitely the longest brake job I've ever had to do and positively the most painful. I think it was total of about 6 hours or so taking my time dealing with cranky bolts with loctite, PB Blaster and letting it sit on rust bits, then eventually giving up on PB and sledging the old rotors off. The rotor bolts didn't give me any issues except that one rear passenger, otherwise they were all super easy to get off.
I'd planned on painting the calipers while they were off, however that went out the window after I was dealing with it for 4 hours. I thought about getting some of those covers, just hard to justify the $200+ for looks when I could take a day and paint them. The covers do look slick though...
Oh and also just as an FYI for those curious, the top cop performance package was discontinued. If you want that combo you HAVE to order it separate or hope you can find someone who has a listing still up and will honor it. Even the Amazon package is listed as out of stock now.