Title: E30 worth it?
Post by: Chris_Flex on June 10, 2017, 03:46:53 PM
Post by: Chris_Flex on June 10, 2017, 03:46:53 PM
Ive had unleashed 3bar 93 tune for a few months with a few revisions on my flex feels great but was thinking about going with a E30 tune I have plenty of e85 stations near me. The extra $99 for E30 tune worth the difference in performance?
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Title: Re: E30 worth it?
Post by: f8tlSHO on June 10, 2017, 04:19:16 PM
Post by: f8tlSHO on June 10, 2017, 04:19:16 PM
Yes!!!! I went from e20 to e30, lowered my boost to 14psi and went faster with a better 60ft time... do it and don't look back
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Title: Re: E30 worth it?
Post by: StealBlueSho on June 10, 2017, 04:22:08 PM
Post by: StealBlueSho on June 10, 2017, 04:22:08 PM
Yes
Title: Re: E30 worth it?
Post by: Chris_Flex on June 10, 2017, 04:25:55 PM
Post by: Chris_Flex on June 10, 2017, 04:25:55 PM
Can't wait to see the results!
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Title: Re: E30 worth it?
Post by: f8tlSHO on June 10, 2017, 04:31:49 PM
Post by: f8tlSHO on June 10, 2017, 04:31:49 PM
Ran a 12.491 with a 1.810 on e20 15psi 40 degree weather(unleashed)
Ran a 12.433 with a 1.798 60ft on e30 with 14psi in 65degree weather with (ajp tuning) it even closes throttle in between gears to stop the boost spikes
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Ran a 12.433 with a 1.798 60ft on e30 with 14psi in 65degree weather with (ajp tuning) it even closes throttle in between gears to stop the boost spikes
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Title: Re: E30 worth it?
Post by: Chris_Flex on June 10, 2017, 04:34:37 PM
Post by: Chris_Flex on June 10, 2017, 04:34:37 PM
Quote from: f8tlSHO on June 10, 2017, 04:31:49 PMWow that's some great numbers! I would love to get my flex into the 12's
Ran a 12.491 with a 1.810 on e20 15psi 40 degree weather(unleashed)
Ran a 12.433 with a 1.798 60ft on e30 with 14psi in 65degree weather with (ajp tuning) it even closes throttle in between gears to stop the boost spikes
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Title: Re: E30 worth it?
Post by: Chris_Flex on June 10, 2017, 10:33:46 PM
Post by: Chris_Flex on June 10, 2017, 10:33:46 PM
Quote from: f8tlSHO on June 10, 2017, 04:31:49 PMAre you testing the e85 in our area? Is it actually 85%
Ran a 12.491 with a 1.810 on e20 15psi 40 degree weather(unleashed)
Ran a 12.433 with a 1.798 60ft on e30 with 14psi in 65degree weather with (ajp tuning) it even closes throttle in between gears to stop the boost spikes
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Title: Re: E30 worth it?
Post by: f8tlSHO on June 10, 2017, 10:55:45 PM
Post by: f8tlSHO on June 10, 2017, 10:55:45 PM
Quote from: ChrisxHowe on June 10, 2017, 10:33:46 PMYes I am, over winter it was 70% have not checked sinceQuote from: f8tlSHO on June 10, 2017, 04:31:49 PMAre you testing the e85 in our area? Is it actually 85%
Ran a 12.491 with a 1.810 on e20 15psi 40 degree weather(unleashed)
Ran a 12.433 with a 1.798 60ft on e30 with 14psi in 65degree weather with (ajp tuning) it even closes throttle in between gears to stop the boost spikes
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Title: Re: E30 worth it?
Post by: Chris_Flex on June 11, 2017, 05:14:45 PM
Post by: Chris_Flex on June 11, 2017, 05:14:45 PM
Ok great
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Title: Re: E30 worth it?
Post by: f8tlSHO on June 12, 2017, 10:11:26 AM
Post by: f8tlSHO on June 12, 2017, 10:11:26 AM
Quote from: ChrisxHowe on June 11, 2017, 05:14:45 PMI just realized you are in Lancaster area, I think we talked before. Sheetz has been putting e85 in a bunch of their stations. I use prospect road sheetz, only 1 minute from my house. But I heard there are other sheetz stations putting e85 in. I used to use mollys in Manheim, but they took it out. Then was using wo-go in greenfield, but now sheetz is way closer.
Ok great
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Title: Re: E30 worth it?
Post by: Chris_Flex on June 12, 2017, 10:14:25 AM
Post by: Chris_Flex on June 12, 2017, 10:14:25 AM
Yea i have seen a few Sheetz with it and I work almost right beside the Wo-Go I worked there about 5 years ago that's were I'll most likely get it. Sheetz on Manheim pike have it also
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Title: Re: E30 worth it?
Post by: dubcitySHO on June 12, 2017, 03:16:37 PM
Post by: dubcitySHO on June 12, 2017, 03:16:37 PM
Man I wish our sheetz would get some out here in podunk.
Title: Re: E30 worth it?
Post by: Macgyver on June 12, 2017, 05:11:56 PM
Post by: Macgyver on June 12, 2017, 05:11:56 PM
Quote from: f8tlSHO on June 12, 2017, 10:11:26 AMQuote from: ChrisxHowe on June 11, 2017, 05:14:45 PMI just realized you are in Lancaster area, I think we talked before. Sheetz has been putting e85 in a bunch of their stations. I use prospect road sheetz, only 1 minute from my house. But I heard there are other sheetz stations putting e85 in. I used to use mollys in Manheim, but they took it out. Then was using wo-go in greenfield, but now sheetz is way closer.
Ok great
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I am in the Reading Area. Lancaster side. I will have to check the stations near me and see what they have.
Title: Re: E30 worth it?
Post by: StealBlueSho on June 12, 2017, 07:37:07 PM
Post by: StealBlueSho on June 12, 2017, 07:37:07 PM
https://getethanol.com/ethanol-finder/
Fairly accurate... you can always call the gas station to confirm.
Fairly accurate... you can always call the gas station to confirm.
Title: Re: E30 worth it?
Post by: Chris_Flex on June 12, 2017, 08:05:58 PM
Post by: Chris_Flex on June 12, 2017, 08:05:58 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on June 12, 2017, 07:37:07 PMThat's a great site! Much better then the others I found
https://getethanol.com/ethanol-finder/
Fairly accurate... you can always call the gas station to confirm.
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Title: Re: E30 worth it?
Post by: Macgyver on June 13, 2017, 10:43:56 PM
Post by: Macgyver on June 13, 2017, 10:43:56 PM
Looks like Ephrata for me. 15mins.
Title: Re: E30 worth it?
Post by: SilvererSHO on June 13, 2017, 11:29:08 PM
Post by: SilvererSHO on June 13, 2017, 11:29:08 PM
Quote from: f8tlSHO on June 12, 2017, 10:11:26 AMQuote from: ChrisxHowe on June 11, 2017, 05:14:45 PMI just realized you are in Lancaster area, I think we talked before. Sheetz has been putting e85 in a bunch of their stations. I use prospect road sheetz, only 1 minute from my house. But I heard there are other sheetz stations putting e85 in. I used to use mollys in Manheim, but they took it out. Then was using wo-go in greenfield, but now sheetz is way closer.
Ok great
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There's a lot of sheetz out your way....
Title: Re: E30 worth it?
Post by: f8tlSHO on June 14, 2017, 05:49:31 AM
Post by: f8tlSHO on June 14, 2017, 05:49:31 AM
Quote from: SilvererSHO on June 13, 2017, 11:29:08 PMThere are convenience stores like every mile around here..Quote from: f8tlSHO on June 12, 2017, 10:11:26 AMQuote from: ChrisxHowe on June 11, 2017, 05:14:45 PMI just realized you are in Lancaster area, I think we talked before. Sheetz has been putting e85 in a bunch of their stations. I use prospect road sheetz, only 1 minute from my house. But I heard there are other sheetz stations putting e85 in. I used to use mollys in Manheim, but they took it out. Then was using wo-go in greenfield, but now sheetz is way closer.
Ok great
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There's a lot of sheetz out your way....
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Title: Re: E30 worth it?
Post by: SHOdded on September 07, 2017, 07:06:13 PM
Post by: SHOdded on September 07, 2017, 07:06:13 PM
Since this thread specifically asks about E30, thought I would post this puff piece here:
http://www.ethanolproducer.com/articles/13109/are-you-ready-for-the-e30-challenge (http://www.ethanolproducer.com/articles/13109/are-you-ready-for-the-e30-challenge)
It was pointed out to me today that the claim is you can get better mpg with E30 than E10. I have yet to research this, but ... ??? Anyone?
http://www.ethanolproducer.com/articles/13109/are-you-ready-for-the-e30-challenge (http://www.ethanolproducer.com/articles/13109/are-you-ready-for-the-e30-challenge)
It was pointed out to me today that the claim is you can get better mpg with E30 than E10. I have yet to research this, but ... ??? Anyone?
Title: Re: E30 worth it?
Post by: jbrown9999 on September 07, 2017, 11:19:49 PM
Post by: jbrown9999 on September 07, 2017, 11:19:49 PM
No. E30 is 30% Ethanol, Ethanol has less power per liter than gasoline. Pure gas will always give you better mileage than a blend.
Title: Re: E30 worth it?
Post by: f8tlSHO on September 08, 2017, 09:03:00 PM
Post by: f8tlSHO on September 08, 2017, 09:03:00 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on September 07, 2017, 07:06:13 PMI drove about 120 miles on the highway the other week, 28.2mpg @65-70mph, on my e30 tune
Since this thread specifically asks about E30, thought I would post this puff piece here:
http://www.ethanolproducer.com/articles/13109/are-you-ready-for-the-e30-challenge (http://www.ethanolproducer.com/articles/13109/are-you-ready-for-the-e30-challenge)
It was pointed out to me today that the claim is you can get better mpg with E30 than E10. I have yet to research this, but ... ??? Anyone?
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Title: Re: E30 worth it?
Post by: SHOdded on September 08, 2017, 09:04:32 PM
Post by: SHOdded on September 08, 2017, 09:04:32 PM
What do you get with e10 or e0, tuned or untuned?
Title: Re: E30 worth it?
Post by: TopherSho on September 08, 2017, 10:17:24 PM
Post by: TopherSho on September 08, 2017, 10:17:24 PM
Quote from: f8tlSHO on June 10, 2017, 04:19:16 PM
Yes!!!! I went from e20 to e30, lowered my boost to 14psi and went faster with a better 60ft time... do it and don't look back
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^^ +1
With a good e30 tune (if your fuel system can handle it) your 60ft and 0-60 will gain quite a bit and 3rd gear will benefit as well.
Title: Re: E30 worth it?
Post by: f8tlSHO on September 08, 2017, 10:20:43 PM
Post by: f8tlSHO on September 08, 2017, 10:20:43 PM
I think 26-27... but honestly I have been running e20-e30 for 1.5 years.. only had the car for 2 months before I tuned it. I don't normally drive it on trips. Got a minivan to haul all my people and stuff
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Title: Re: E30 worth it?
Post by: Brucelinc on September 09, 2017, 09:17:25 AM
Post by: Brucelinc on September 09, 2017, 09:17:25 AM
I have made several different road trips lately with my Continental, some tuned for straight 93 and others with additional spark set up for more E.
The best mileage and performance I get is with about a 35% E blend. Frankly, I was surprised. I expected mileage to take a hit with higher levels of E but not so with the tune I am running. Whether running the 93 tune or the E tune, mileage is improved over stock.
YMMV.
The best mileage and performance I get is with about a 35% E blend. Frankly, I was surprised. I expected mileage to take a hit with higher levels of E but not so with the tune I am running. Whether running the 93 tune or the E tune, mileage is improved over stock.
YMMV.
Title: Re: E30 worth it?
Post by: StealBlueSho on September 09, 2017, 09:55:24 AM
Post by: StealBlueSho on September 09, 2017, 09:55:24 AM
It honestly depends on the tuner. Brad has probably done more research on our platform from a E tuning perspective than most. He adjust lambda for his E tunes which will make a difference in your MPG... HOWEVER that being said, I am unsure if he is tuning for every day driving or just wide open awesomeness. His throttle tuning and transmission tuning effects everything.. just not sure if he adjusts the fueling for cruising around. Maybe he will chime in?
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Title: Re: E30 worth it?
Post by: f8tlSHO on September 09, 2017, 05:46:24 PM
Post by: f8tlSHO on September 09, 2017, 05:46:24 PM
My mileage normally sucks..... lol... but I know why
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Title: Re: E30 worth it?
Post by: Macgyver on September 09, 2017, 08:18:27 PM
Post by: Macgyver on September 09, 2017, 08:18:27 PM
Quote from: f8tlSHO on September 09, 2017, 05:46:24 PM
My mileage normally sucks..... lol... but I know why
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Throttle angle is everything. I have no self control as well over my throttle angle. LOL
I believe AJP has done MPG tunes that people have been happy with. I will def have a 93 tune. E30 Tune. A long trip MPG tune. Would love to hit 30mpg if possible.
The Juke modding is almost done. I will be tuning the SHO in October.
Title: Re: E30 worth it?
Post by: TopherSho on September 28, 2017, 09:14:08 AM
Post by: TopherSho on September 28, 2017, 09:14:08 AM
Quote from: ChrisxEco on June 10, 2017, 03:46:53 PM
Ive had unleashed 3bar 93 tune for a few months with a few revisions on my flex feels great but was thinking about going with a E30 tune I have plenty of e85 stations near me. The extra $99 for E30 tune worth the difference in performance?
2013 Ford Flex Ecoboost
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Sctx4 4bar map(Torrie tune)
I would say do the e30 blend before meth. It helps the launch sooooo much.
Title: Re: E30 worth it?
Post by: Blackhawk on September 28, 2017, 10:34:19 AM
Post by: Blackhawk on September 28, 2017, 10:34:19 AM
Torries E30 tune knocked almost a half second off my quarter from the 93 tune. I suspect it will be even more once I lower the car and get new tires.
Title: Re: E30 worth it?
Post by: GT500R on December 01, 2017, 11:46:56 AM
Post by: GT500R on December 01, 2017, 11:46:56 AM
Yes, the stuff is very addicting.
Unleashed Tune (93) | K&N Filter | 13.228 @ 103.27 New Hampshire Dragway (-400 DA)
Unleashed Tune (100) | K&N Filter | 13.162 @ 104.67 New Hampshire Dragway (0 DA)
Unleashed Tune (E30) | K&N Filter | CX Racing Intercooler | ~12.999 @ 106.51 ATCO (+200 DA)
All with pretty much the same 60' - 1.930 for 93 and E30, 1.949 for 100 octane.
I recommend mixing the E85 with 93 for best power. The E30 tune I have shows 0 signs of KR from 0-110 and could probably go even faster.
Unleashed Tune (93) | K&N Filter | 13.228 @ 103.27 New Hampshire Dragway (-400 DA)
Unleashed Tune (100) | K&N Filter | 13.162 @ 104.67 New Hampshire Dragway (0 DA)
Unleashed Tune (E30) | K&N Filter | CX Racing Intercooler | ~12.999 @ 106.51 ATCO (+200 DA)
All with pretty much the same 60' - 1.930 for 93 and E30, 1.949 for 100 octane.
I recommend mixing the E85 with 93 for best power. The E30 tune I have shows 0 signs of KR from 0-110 and could probably go even faster.