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Title: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: StealBlueSho on August 07, 2016, 07:22:28 AM
I have had several people PM me asking how to datalog with the SCTx4 device only without having to use a laptop in your car... so here is a quick how to on loading a configuration file sent to you by your tuner into livelink II, exporting it into your SCTx4 device, and then how to datalog with that config file from your car...

You can also merge a CF4 file with a validated list of datapoints for your vehicle to add additional PIDS/DMR/etc to log and/or create your own CF4 file with datapoints you want log, but that is beyond the scope of this How To..

1: Start up LiveLink II..

2: Once LiveLink II is loaded, select the "Load Config" icon on the navigation bar...
(http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6554.0;attach=11329;image%5Bimg%5D)[/img]

3: In the file selection window, navigate to the CF4 file that was sent to you buy your tuner and click "Open". This contains a list of the datapoints that will be collected during the datalog.
(http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6554.0;attach=11331;image)

4: A second window will pop up with a description if there is one.. just click "Next"
(http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6554.0;attach=11333;image)

5:Once the CF4 file loads up into LiveLink II select the "Export DLF/DLX" in the navigation bar..
(http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6554.0;attach=11336;image%5Bimg%5D)

6:In the Export File window select the radio button for "X4 Device(.DLX)" and then select "OK"
(http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6554.0;attach=11337;image%5Bimg%5D)


7:In the Export Configuration window provide a "Description" and then select "Export"..
(http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6554.0;attach=11339;image)


8:In the file window that pops up, save the .DLX file and rename it to what you want..
(http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6554.0;attach=11341;image)

Close LiveLink II before opening SCT Device Updater


9: Connect your SCTx4 Device to your computer via the USB cable provided...

10:Open the SCT Device Updater application

11:Once the SCT Device Updater program opens up, select the "Transfer File to Device" button in the "Basic Operations" section...
(http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6554.0;attach=11343;image)

12:On the right side of the screen after selecting the "Transfer File to Device" button, select the "Browse" button..
(http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6554.0;attach=11345;image)

13:A file navigation window opens up, select the .DLX file you exported out of LiveLink II, and select "Open". Once you click Open it automatically transfer the file to the SCTx4 Device..

14: Disconnect your SCTx4 from your computer, its ready for datalogging.


15:Follow the following link to hook the SCTx4 Device to your car, select the datalog configuration file you loaded into your SCTx4 Device, and start the Electronic Gauges on your SCTx4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrTBuD9DomQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrTBuD9DomQ)

16: Once you have the SCTx4 in datalog mode with the digital gauges displayed, click the center circle on the SCTx4 to start recording.. a circle will appear in the center of the screen that says "Rec"... (I will take a picture when I get back to the house)


NOTE: You are now actively datalogging your vehicle... I don't know what the maximum amount of time you can datalog but a red circle will start to encompass the "Rec" symbol in the center of the display.. I am assuming when that completes the circle thats all you can do... I have recorded for 20+ minutes without an issue.

NOTE: You can only have one datalog at a time on the SCT.. so if you stop and start again during the record you will lose the last recording.. you can technically hit the record button again while you are connected to pause the recording, and hit rec again to resume... but you must keep the sctx4 connected and do not leave the datalogging screen.

17: Once you are finished datalogging, click the center circle again on the pad, the "Rec" symbol will disappear, press the right pad, select "Stop Datalog", and then disconnect the SCTx4 from the OBDII port...

18: When you get home, connect the SCTx4 to your computer again via the USB cable, and start up LiveLink II again.

19: On the opening page click the "I want to import a datalog from a device" link. Follow the wizard to import the datalog from the SCTx4 device onto your computer.
(http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6554.0;attach=11347;image%5Bimg%5D)
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: SHOdded on August 07, 2016, 10:53:23 AM
Thank you for taking the time to put together this comprehensive writeup :thumb:  Certain to help answer a lot of questions!

Wouldn't happen to have higher rez gifs by any chance, would ya?
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: sholxgt on August 07, 2016, 01:56:11 PM
I was one of the people that asked StealBlue via PM.  Thanks a ton for answering my PM AND for putting together this write up.

The youtube videos and most Online how to's only show the laptop method, which is not convenient for most people.
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on August 07, 2016, 02:04:52 PM
I too was one of the ones bugging stealblue.

I blame it on AJP!

Seriously though, thanks, the laptop just adds a layer of pita and my resolution sucks pretty hard. Hopefully this helps.
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on August 07, 2016, 02:06:34 PM
We should probably sticky this. I would but I'm on my phone and it does weird things when I'm trying to do admin stuff.
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: StealBlueSho on August 07, 2016, 02:35:56 PM
I can expand this to include A: better resolution pictures. B: How to merge existing configurations with a validated list of usable pids so you can datalog additional datapoints. C: Create your own configuration files from scratch.

If anyone is interested in those...

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Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on August 07, 2016, 04:37:31 PM
I'm interested in A only because I'm familiar with the other two.

As often as we have folks requesting config files I think B and C is a good idea as well.
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: StealBlueSho on August 07, 2016, 06:52:21 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on August 07, 2016, 10:53:23 AM
Thank you for taking the time to put together this comprehensive writeup :thumb:  Certain to help answer a lot of questions!

Wouldn't happen to have higher rez gifs by any chance, would ya?

Uploaded higher resolution pictures.
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: Vortech347 on August 07, 2016, 11:36:55 PM
This is a nice feature if your laptop craps out.

The only thing I couldn't figure out is how to take separate logs so I can log in sport and drive modes.
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: StealBlueSho on August 07, 2016, 11:40:29 PM
You can not do separate logs. The easiest way is to just log the entire time then use the "Save View" option in LiveLink II on the runs you want separated out.

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Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on August 07, 2016, 11:49:14 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on August 07, 2016, 11:40:29 PM
You can not do separate logs. The easiest way is to just log the entire time then use the "Save View" option in LiveLink II on the runs you want separated out.

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Any idea how long before memory runs out?
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: StealBlueSho on August 07, 2016, 11:57:04 PM
That's a good question... I would imagine based on my experience you could get approx 30-45 depending on how many pids you are logging? I have done 20+ minutes and only had about 1/2 of the circle filled.

That being said basic ability to read datalogs is needed so you can parse out your runs... The CSV file it dumps out is 50+ MBs if you log for 20 minutes...and I know tuners are not going to want to parse it themselves...

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Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: StealBlueSho on August 08, 2016, 12:04:24 AM
There is a pause option on the SCT x4 for datalogging... I played with that but you need to be careful. If you accidentally hit the wrong button you could loose all your previous data. So for me personally, I don't like using that option as it's not all always easy to get a really good pull on the street through 3rd gear.

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Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: SHOdded on August 08, 2016, 06:16:34 AM
Yeah, logging at 1/100ths of a second adds up to some serious storage space issues LOL.
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: StealBlueSho on August 08, 2016, 07:44:04 AM
The CSV files do compress very well, about 15:1 with WinRAR using the "best" option with a .zip container.

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Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: AnotherGreenFusion on August 08, 2016, 10:39:40 AM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on August 07, 2016, 11:49:14 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on August 07, 2016, 11:40:29 PM
You can not do separate logs. The easiest way is to just log the entire time then use the "Save View" option in LiveLink II on the runs you want separated out.

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Any idea how long before memory runs out?


I have run logs up to the length of my commute (about 1hr 15mins)
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: SHOdded on August 08, 2016, 11:14:54 AM
How many PIDs, AGF?
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: FistyMcgee on August 11, 2016, 07:38:31 PM
Should I datalog and send the data to LMS to refine the tune that they sent me then? That's what I understand from this conversation. I don't mind sounding stupid so I ask questions like this.
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: SHOdded on August 11, 2016, 07:45:25 PM
LME doesnt use datalogs per se.  Just tell them what you want & why. 
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: sholxgt on August 11, 2016, 07:54:23 PM
Quote from: FistyMcgee on August 11, 2016, 07:38:31 PM
Should I datalog and send the data to LMS to refine the tune that they sent me then? That's what I understand from this conversation. I don't mind sounding stupid so I ask questions like this.

To add to SHOdded's post, the MyCal provided by LMS does not even offer data logging AFAIK.  That leaves you completely blind without a second device.
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: AnotherGreenFusion on August 11, 2016, 09:23:19 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on August 08, 2016, 11:14:54 AM
How many PIDs, AGF?


Opened up one of my old commute logs.


32mins, 32 values all PID. File size was about 51mb
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: FistyMcgee on August 15, 2016, 03:51:12 PM
Got it, I'll need sct x4 so I know what's going in with the car in general.
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: StealBlueSho on August 15, 2016, 05:48:51 PM
Quote from: FistyMcgee on August 15, 2016, 03:51:12 PM
Got it, I'll need sct x4 so I know what's going in with the car in general.
It may help of you are interested. I believe LMS has stated that datalogging from the SCT devices does not provide accurate data from their point of view so anything you "find" with it they will probably not trust. If you are concerned about something in the tune the best thing to do is talk to them.. SCT x4 devices are $400 or so...you could pick up a Bluetooth OBD2 reader and a phone app like torque for a lot less just to see vitals...IMHO

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Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: FistyMcgee on August 15, 2016, 08:57:42 PM
Ahh very good idea, I have an obdii reset but I want a Bluetooth one, it's a lot less hassle and cleaner thank you for the suggestion and training for not using sct
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on August 16, 2016, 10:33:54 PM
FYI for anyone doing this, my device updater would not transfer the file....ended up that it didn't like Livelink and the updater open at the same time. When I closed both and reopened the updater it worked perfectly.

Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: StealBlueSho on August 16, 2016, 10:35:06 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on August 16, 2016, 10:33:54 PM
FYI for anyone doing this, my device updater would not transfer the file....ended up that it didn't like Livelink and the updater open at the same time. When I closed both and reopened the updater it worked perfectly.

Good point... Forgot about that.. thanks for catching it!

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Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on August 16, 2016, 10:41:22 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on August 16, 2016, 10:35:06 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on August 16, 2016, 10:33:54 PM
FYI for anyone doing this, my device updater would not transfer the file....ended up that it didn't like Livelink and the updater open at the same time. When I closed both and reopened the updater it worked perfectly.

Good point... Forgot about that.. thanks for catching it!

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You work with SCT long enough you learn to understand its "quirks" when it decides not to behave, lol.
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: StealBlueSho on August 16, 2016, 10:46:52 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on August 16, 2016, 10:41:22 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on August 16, 2016, 10:35:06 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on August 16, 2016, 10:33:54 PM
FYI for anyone doing this, my device updater would not transfer the file....ended up that it didn't like Livelink and the updater open at the same time. When I closed both and reopened the updater it worked perfectly.

Good point... Forgot about that.. thanks for catching it!

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You work with SCT long enough you learn to understand its "quirks" when it decides not to behave, lol.
True... There is a way to transfer the cf4 file straight into the SCT x4 from LiveLink without having to use SCT Device Updater.. and actually LiveLink is the only way to remove to config files from the SCTx4...  I was on vacation and didn't have my SCT x4 with me so I could not screen cap that process...

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Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: StealBlueSho on August 19, 2016, 10:52:28 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on August 08, 2016, 11:14:54 AM
How many PIDs, AGF?

I get about 26 minutes to logging with 37 pids and one OBD...longer if I cut out some of the pids...
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on August 19, 2016, 11:59:07 AM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on August 19, 2016, 10:52:28 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on August 08, 2016, 11:14:54 AM
How many PIDs, AGF?

I get about 26 minutes to logging with 37 pids and one OBD...longer if I cut out some of the pids...
Weird, my latest was 126 minutes with 33 pids.

Haven't seen the memory full warning yet.
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: StealBlueSho on August 19, 2016, 01:04:41 PM
Yea I dunno, I agree.. I have datalogged longer before.. oh well, usually only use it to log a few runs... Not just driving around lol..

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Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: AnotherGreenFusion on August 19, 2016, 01:21:39 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on August 19, 2016, 10:52:28 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on August 08, 2016, 11:14:54 AM
How many PIDs, AGF?

I get about 26 minutes to logging with 37 pids and one OBD...longer if I cut out some of the pids...

What is the PC you are logging with like? Are you running any extra programs?


I am not sure exactly how livelink works but if it is like most software it may be storing all that data in memory until you click save rather than caching to a temp file on the disk. This would make how much you can log very sensitive to how much memory your computer has and what else is running at the time. A 100mb file on disk may be 200 or 500mb when loaded due to all the extra meta-data a program might generate when the content is loaded.
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: sholxgt on August 19, 2016, 01:28:47 PM
Quote from: AnotherGreenFusion on August 19, 2016, 01:21:39 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on August 19, 2016, 10:52:28 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on August 08, 2016, 11:14:54 AM
How many PIDs, AGF?

I get about 26 minutes to logging with 37 pids and one OBD...longer if I cut out some of the pids...

What is the PC you are logging with like? Are you running any extra programs?


I am not sure exactly how livelink works but if it is like most software it may be storing all that data in memory until you click save rather than caching to a temp file on the disk. This would make how much you can log very sensitive to how much memory your computer has and what else is running at the time. A 100mb file on disk may be 200 or 500mb when loaded due to all the extra meta-data a program might generate when the content is loaded.

They are data logging with just the SCT programmer and no PC.  Prior to Steal showing me the light, I was lugging my laptop out to the car and making it much more difficult than it needs to be.  Only benefit of the laptop method is the ability to create multiple files instead of one at a time.
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: AnotherGreenFusion on August 19, 2016, 01:48:49 PM
Quote from: sholxgt on August 19, 2016, 01:28:47 PM

They are data logging with just the SCT programmer and no PC.  Prior to Steal showing me the light, I was lugging my laptop out to the car and making it much more difficult than it needs to be.  Only benefit of the laptop method is the ability to create multiple files instead of one at a time.

The other benefit is larger file size support, the device may log faster but there will be limits on how much it can hold as they are not super sophisticated hardware in reality, you are mainly paying for the licences with these boxes.
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: StealBlueSho on August 19, 2016, 01:56:13 PM
Quote from: AnotherGreenFusion on August 19, 2016, 01:48:49 PM
Quote from: sholxgt on August 19, 2016, 01:28:47 PM

They are data logging with just the SCT programmer and no PC.  Prior to Steal showing me the light, I was lugging my laptop out to the car and making it much more difficult than it needs to be.  Only benefit of the laptop method is the ability to create multiple files instead of one at a time.

The other benefit is larger file size support, the device may log faster but there will be limits on how much it can hold as they are not super sophisticated hardware in reality, you are mainly paying for the licences with these boxes.
Yup, but when you are doing remote tuning with someone it's pretty easy to go out with just the SCT, log a few pulls all at once, upload it into LiveLink, separate out the runs, and email them to your tuner. You could do the same thing with a laptop of course. But I personally find it easier to use the hand held.

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Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on August 19, 2016, 02:05:42 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on August 19, 2016, 01:56:13 PM
Quote from: AnotherGreenFusion on August 19, 2016, 01:48:49 PM
Quote from: sholxgt on August 19, 2016, 01:28:47 PM

They are data logging with just the SCT programmer and no PC.  Prior to Steal showing me the light, I was lugging my laptop out to the car and making it much more difficult than it needs to be.  Only benefit of the laptop method is the ability to create multiple files instead of one at a time.

The other benefit is larger file size support, the device may log faster but there will be limits on how much it can hold as they are not super sophisticated hardware in reality, you are mainly paying for the licences with these boxes.
Yup, but when you are doing remote tuning with someone it's pretty easy to go out with just the SCT, log a few pulls all at once, upload it into LiveLink, separate out the runs, and email them to your tuner. You could do the same thing with a laptop of course. But I personally find it easier to use the hand held.

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I have ditched my wireless "toys" and the X4 is now permanently installed on my dash.

The difference in speed is dramatic and the gauge colors match the OEM pretty well.

I like the added ability to be able to get a real log anytime.

The box kinda sucks but form follows function and the GTX will fix that issue.
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: sholxgt on August 19, 2016, 02:13:16 PM
I wonder what the GTX will cost?  The x4 is pretty poorly designed overall, but it basically works.

I don't recall seeing anyone on here that opted for the Livewire.  Kind of surprised.  Maybe I'm not the only one that just couldn't justify the extra cost.
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: AnotherGreenFusion on August 19, 2016, 02:22:18 PM
Quote from: sholxgt on August 19, 2016, 02:13:16 PM
I wonder what the GTX will cost?  The x4 is pretty poorly designed overall, but it basically works.

I don't recall seeing anyone on here that opted for the Livewire.  Kind of surprised.  Maybe I'm not the only one that just couldn't justify the extra cost.


I have the TS+ myself but not sure it was worth it. The touch screen is meh and visibility is bad in the daytime. I got it for the supposedly faster logging but have not really compared it to x4 logs yet. The reality is while a tuner may be able to log faster there is a logical upper limit the car's hardware will hit at some point.
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: AJP turbo on August 19, 2016, 02:23:02 PM
Should be available for 399 same as x4 according to my sources at sct and possibly September
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on August 19, 2016, 02:27:54 PM
Quote from: AJP turbo on August 19, 2016, 02:23:02 PM
Should be available for 399 same as x4 according to my sources at sct and possibly September
Perfect timing, BDay present to myself!
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: glock-coma on August 25, 2016, 07:18:30 PM
thx for breaking down this process, I did some logging yesterday with just the x4 and I did hit the start/stop button between runs.
I didn't save the first run on the laptop so I assumed I lost it......but I didnt.

When I down loaded the second run, the first log was still in there.
The car was off but the tuner was still connected between runs but it was probably a 1/2 hour between them.

So it seems it will keep more than one log at a time.

Heres the log,
first log is at 509.808
second log at 1502.645
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: StealBlueSho on August 25, 2016, 07:30:06 PM
Quote from: glock-coma on August 25, 2016, 07:18:30 PM
thx for breaking down this process, I did some logging yesterday with just the x4 and I did hit the start/stop button between runs.
I didn't save the first run on the laptop so I assumed I lost it......but I didnt.

When I down loaded the second run, the first log was still in there.
The car was off but the tuner was still connected between runs but it was probably a 1/2 hour between them.

So it seems it will keep more than one log at a time.

Heres the log,
first log is at 509.808
second log at 1502.645


Technically your are correct, you can hit the record button again to pause it and again to resume as long as you don't disconnect it OR start a new log... however, there have been many a times where I paused a record and accidentally started up a new datalog. This particularly sucks when you get a really good log just to loose it.

I went ahead and updated the How To with this... just hope people pay attention! lol

BTW: Logs look great, but I would imagine you still have more to go.. :-) I went around 15 Revisions with Bradley and then a couple more after the wastegate mod... 
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on August 25, 2016, 09:44:31 PM
Steal Blue, have you figured out how to get the DMRs working?

I am in an endless loop of downloading the update, it telling me it installed them, then continuing to tell me I need the update every time I open the program.

When I try to validate pids I get squat. 
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on August 25, 2016, 09:45:57 PM
Quote from: glock-coma on August 25, 2016, 07:18:30 PM
thx for breaking down this process, I did some logging yesterday with just the x4 and I did hit the start/stop button between runs.
I didn't save the first run on the laptop so I assumed I lost it......but I didnt.

When I down loaded the second run, the first log was still in there.
The car was off but the tuner was still connected between runs but it was probably a 1/2 hour between them.

So it seems it will keep more than one log at a time.

Heres the log,
first log is at 509.808
second log at 1502.645
Damn, everybody gets higher shift points than I do...
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: StealBlueSho on August 25, 2016, 09:56:37 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on August 25, 2016, 09:44:31 PM
Steal Blue, have you figured out how to get the DMRs working?

I am in an endless loop of downloading the update, it telling me it installed them, then continuing to tell me I need the update every time I open the program.

When I try to validate pids I get squat.
Yea I ran into that update issue as well... I just kept letting it update until it took...

To validate the list you need to hook up the SCT to your car and then to the laptop as well, and then go through the validation process.. it was the only way I could get that to work...

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Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: AJP turbo on August 25, 2016, 10:11:27 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on August 25, 2016, 09:56:37 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on August 25, 2016, 09:44:31 PM
Steal Blue, have you figured out how to get the DMRs working?

I am in an endless loop of downloading the update, it telling me it installed them, then continuing to tell me I need the update every time I open the program.

When I try to validate pids I get squat.
Yea I ran into that update issue as well... I just kept letting it update until it took...

To validate the list you need to hook up the SCT to your car and then to the laptop as well, and then go through the validation process.. it was the only way I could get that to work...

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Stock for stock...logs i get from people always show the 10'-12' sho's reving higher
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on August 25, 2016, 10:12:20 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on August 25, 2016, 09:56:37 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on August 25, 2016, 09:44:31 PM
Steal Blue, have you figured out how to get the DMRs working?

I am in an endless loop of downloading the update, it telling me it installed them, then continuing to tell me I need the update every time I open the program.

When I try to validate pids I get squat.
Yea I ran into that update issue as well... I just kept letting it update until it took...

To validate the list you need to hook up the SCT to your car and then to the laptop as well, and then go through the validation process.. it was the only way I could get that to work...

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Yeah, I did that but I guess they haven't "took" yet.

Very annoying.
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on August 25, 2016, 10:16:03 PM
Any chance of a screen shot of the available DMR's?
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on November 23, 2016, 11:36:59 PM
So, if anyone with a 2013 + wants DMR support, delete Livelink and the Device updater then download the newest versions, update, and you should be good to go.

You will need to revert back to stock when updating the device installer but you don't need to swap out your 3 bar for this process.

After the updated software is installed, take your laptop and livelink to the car , hook up and verify your pids. On mine, the DMRs were mixed in with the oem and OBD pids.

I must warn you, be prepared for a datagazm...Mine has well over 1000 pids now.

Once that is done, make note of your strategy number, you will need it for offline mode. You can then select your strategy when disconnected to edit/create the config file. import your current config file then add/swap DMRs


Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: StealBlueSho on November 24, 2016, 07:09:23 AM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on November 23, 2016, 11:36:59 PM
So, if anyone wants DMR support, delete Livelink and the Device updater then download the newest versions, update, and you should be good to go.

You will need to revert back to stock when updating the device installer but you don't need to swap out your 3 bar for this process.

I must warn you, be prepared for a datagazm...

The problem I'm having is I want to build a new config file consisting of DMR's and pids but when I'm hooked up to the car all I see is DMRs and when I'm not connected I can only see pids.

Any ideas about this issue would be appreciated.

Also, does anyone know how to delete old logs off the handheld? I don't see the old logs but the time on the existing files have gotten pretty outrageous. It's like the data is gone but the time window still exists so it takes forever to find what I'm looking for.

Can't help you with PIDS vs DMR... BUT... what do you mean delete logs off the old device? Are  you talking about the config files? or are you actually talking about the logs? On the SCTx4, whenever you stop datalogging and start a new datalog it over writes the existing log on the device. HOWEVER, if you leave the device plugged in to the car in datalog mode it will just record static until it fills up or you reset it.
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: derfdog15 on November 24, 2016, 10:37:47 AM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on November 24, 2016, 07:09:23 AM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on November 23, 2016, 11:36:59 PM
So, if anyone wants DMR support, delete Livelink and the Device updater then download the newest versions, update, and you should be good to go.

You will need to revert back to stock when updating the device installer but you don't need to swap out your 3 bar for this process.

I must warn you, be prepared for a datagazm...

The problem I'm having is I want to build a new config file consisting of DMR's and pids but when I'm hooked up to the car all I see is DMRs and when I'm not connected I can only see pids.

Any ideas about this issue would be appreciated.

Also, does anyone know how to delete old logs off the handheld? I don't see the old logs but the time on the existing files have gotten pretty outrageous. It's like the data is gone but the time window still exists so it takes forever to find what I'm looking for.

Can't help you with PIDS vs DMR... BUT... what do you mean delete logs off the old device? Are  you talking about the config files? or are you actually talking about the logs? On the SCTx4, whenever you stop datalogging and start a new datalog it over writes the existing log on the device. HOWEVER, if you leave the device plugged in to the car in datalog mode it will just record static until it fills up or you reset it.

I leave mine plugged in and on the datalog screen pretty consistently, and tend to see the time axis be pretty high when I actually record. To alleviate this, I sometimes unplug the X4 before leaving if I know I am going to datalog, and plug it back in, as well as stopping the log before I do this. Seems to help
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on November 24, 2016, 12:17:37 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on November 24, 2016, 07:09:23 AM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on November 23, 2016, 11:36:59 PM
So, if anyone wants DMR support, delete Livelink and the Device updater then download the newest versions, update, and you should be good to go.

You will need to revert back to stock when updating the device installer but you don't need to swap out your 3 bar for this process.

I must warn you, be prepared for a datagazm...

The problem I'm having is I want to build a new config file consisting of DMR's and pids but when I'm hooked up to the car all I see is DMRs and when I'm not connected I can only see pids.

Any ideas about this issue would be appreciated.

Also, does anyone know how to delete old logs off the handheld? I don't see the old logs but the time on the existing files have gotten pretty outrageous. It's like the data is gone but the time window still exists so it takes forever to find what I'm looking for.

Can't help you with PIDS vs DMR... BUT... what do you mean delete logs off the old device? Are  you talking about the config files? or are you actually talking about the logs? On the SCTx4, whenever you stop datalogging and start a new datalog it over writes the existing log on the device. HOWEVER, if you leave the device plugged in to the car in datalog mode it will just record static until it fills up or you reset it.
I leave it in gauge mode pretty much at all times and hit record when I need it.

Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: StealBlueSho on November 25, 2016, 03:45:12 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on November 24, 2016, 12:17:37 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on November 24, 2016, 07:09:23 AM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on November 23, 2016, 11:36:59 PM
So, if anyone wants DMR support, delete Livelink and the Device updater then download the newest versions, update, and you should be good to go.

You will need to revert back to stock when updating the device installer but you don't need to swap out your 3 bar for this process.

I must warn you, be prepared for a datagazm...

The problem I'm having is I want to build a new config file consisting of DMR's and pids but when I'm hooked up to the car all I see is DMRs and when I'm not connected I can only see pids.

Any ideas about this issue would be appreciated.

Also, does anyone know how to delete old logs off the handheld? I don't see the old logs but the time on the existing files have gotten pretty outrageous. It's like the data is gone but the time window still exists so it takes forever to find what I'm looking for.

Can't help you with PIDS vs DMR... BUT... what do you mean delete logs off the old device? Are  you talking about the config files? or are you actually talking about the logs? On the SCTx4, whenever you stop datalogging and start a new datalog it over writes the existing log on the device. HOWEVER, if you leave the device plugged in to the car in datalog mode it will just record static until it fills up or you reset it.
I leave it in gauge mode pretty much at all times and hit record when I need it.

Right, so when you are in Gauge/Datalogging mode the timer is progressing even though you are not technically recording any data... so when you do finally decide to record something, the time stamps are from when you originally put the device in Gauge/Datalogging mode and NOT when you actually hit the recording mode.
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: JimC1 on January 23, 2017, 07:25:00 PM
Thanks, I will load the file to my X4. Easier than dragging along the laptop for a session.

And this may explain why I only got the idle and not the rest of the data when I did it the other day with my laptop. I had hit the data log "red circle" and apparently that locked in to that data stream only. I could see the data on my laptop but nothing was saving apparently but the previous idle setting
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on May 25, 2017, 01:13:10 PM
So is anyone else having issues with the histogram function?

When I try to make one all that comes up for selection are the analogs.

Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on May 25, 2017, 01:31:17 PM
Another thing....I've been having issues with config files built out of validated pids failing to load.

Anyone else ran into this?

Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: StealBlueSho on May 25, 2017, 01:32:17 PM
Only time I have run into that issue was when I building config files without validating against my ECU...
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: Black Dream on June 21, 2021, 08:53:40 AM
Thanks for this amazing write up. I'll be doing this today to send to Torrie at Unleashed but I have no idea what to log.  Continuous normal driving, 0-60 runs, full throttle runs for a certain length of time, etc.  What say ye tuning gurus?
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: Macgyver on June 21, 2021, 07:48:10 PM
AJP had a datalog setup for Laptops. Just install livewire and he has a config file that runs what he needs to see to tune which is what you need to see. Maybe Torrie has a similar thing.
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: ridered74 on June 21, 2021, 11:04:23 PM
Quote from: Black Dream on June 21, 2021, 08:53:40 AM
Thanks for this amazing write up. I'll be doing this today to send to Torrie at Unleashed but I have no idea what to log.  Continuous normal driving, 0-60 runs, full throttle runs for a certain length of time, etc.  What say ye tuning gurus?


Not tuned by Torie anymore, but when I was I would just do a 0-100 log. Might want to just shoot him an email and ask him what he wants to see, he'd probably reply within about 3 minutes.
Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: Black Dream on June 22, 2021, 06:03:26 AM
Quote from: ridered74 on June 21, 2021, 11:04:23 PM
Quote from: Black Dream on June 21, 2021, 08:53:40 AM
Thanks for this amazing write up. I'll be doing this today to send to Torrie at Unleashed but I have no idea what to log.  Continuous normal driving, 0-60 runs, full throttle runs for a certain length of time, etc.  What say ye tuning gurus?


Not tuned by Torie anymore, but when I was I would just do a 0-100 log. Might want to just shoot him an email and ask him what he wants to see, he'd probably reply within about 3 minutes.
I did email Torrie. Little disappointed in his response time, it took 5 minutes.

He just needed a WOT run through the gears.

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Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: Black Dream on June 22, 2021, 06:05:36 AM
Quote from: Macgyver on June 21, 2021, 07:48:10 PM
AJP had a datalog setup for Laptops. Just install livewire and he has a config file that runs what he needs to see to tune which is what you need to see. Maybe Torrie has a similar thing.
He did. Sent me a .cf4 file to download into Livelink then make a run through the gears logging the drive.

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Title: Re: Datalogging with SCTx4 Device
Post by: ridered74 on June 23, 2021, 12:23:20 AM
Quote from: Black Dream on June 22, 2021, 06:03:26 AM
Quote from: ridered74 on June 21, 2021, 11:04:23 PM
Quote from: Black Dream on June 21, 2021, 08:53:40 AM
Thanks for this amazing write up. I'll be doing this today to send to Torrie at Unleashed but I have no idea what to log.  Continuous normal driving, 0-60 runs, full throttle runs for a certain length of time, etc.  What say ye tuning gurus?


Not tuned by Torie anymore, but when I was I would just do a 0-100 log. Might want to just shoot him an email and ask him what he wants to see, he'd probably reply within about 3 minutes.
I did email Torrie. Little disappointed in his response time, it took 5 minutes. (https://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji1787.png)

He just needed a WOT run through the gears.

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Dang, he's slipping.

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