Title: Anyone know what the MSD coils put out versus the OEMS?
Post by: TopherSho on January 10, 2020, 05:49:13 PM
Post by: TopherSho on January 10, 2020, 05:49:13 PM
https://www.holley.com/products/ignition/ignition_coils/late_model_coil_packs/ford-lincoln-mercury/ford_ecoboost_coils/parts/82586 (https://www.holley.com/products/ignition/ignition_coils/late_model_coil_packs/ford-lincoln-mercury/ford_ecoboost_coils/parts/82586)
Is there even a voltage difference ?
Topher ..
Is there even a voltage difference ?
Topher ..
Title: Re: Anyone know what the MSD coils put out versus the OEMS?
Post by: ZSHO on January 10, 2020, 07:46:37 PM
Post by: ZSHO on January 10, 2020, 07:46:37 PM
There is seldom info available,especially on electrical components on Ford oem-parts AFAIK!
Here is a good article on the Msd ignition coils when compared to the stock (COP) with Dyno results! I hope this helps any. Z
https://www.drivingline.com/articles/new-product-spotlight-msd-performance-coil-packs-for-ford-ecoboost-engines/ (https://www.drivingline.com/articles/new-product-spotlight-msd-performance-coil-packs-for-ford-ecoboost-engines/)
Here is a good article on the Msd ignition coils when compared to the stock (COP) with Dyno results! I hope this helps any. Z
https://www.drivingline.com/articles/new-product-spotlight-msd-performance-coil-packs-for-ford-ecoboost-engines/ (https://www.drivingline.com/articles/new-product-spotlight-msd-performance-coil-packs-for-ford-ecoboost-engines/)
Title: Anyone know what the MSD coils put out versus the OEMS?
Post by: StealBlueSho on January 10, 2020, 10:06:25 PM
Post by: StealBlueSho on January 10, 2020, 10:06:25 PM
I have the documents somewhere, but it's a small difference... like 7-8% more energy...
But it's enough to help with spark blow out... specifically at the higher RPMs.
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But it's enough to help with spark blow out... specifically at the higher RPMs.
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Title: Re: Anyone know what the MSD coils put out versus the OEMS?
Post by: TopherSho on January 11, 2020, 01:13:17 AM
Post by: TopherSho on January 11, 2020, 01:13:17 AM
TY sir, I was hoping for a tiny bit more .. i'd like to test gapping only to .029 and see if the tips last any longer with better coils.
Title: Re: Anyone know what the MSD coils put out versus the OEMS?
Post by: FiveLeeter918 on February 18, 2020, 03:20:27 PM
Post by: FiveLeeter918 on February 18, 2020, 03:20:27 PM
Currently running 0.028" gapped NGK Rutheniums on my car with the MSDs and they're performing great, no noticeable difference from the stock coils with plugs at 0.026"
Title: Re: Anyone know what the MSD coils put out versus the OEMS?
Post by: StinkinLinkin13 on February 18, 2020, 09:57:28 PM
Post by: StinkinLinkin13 on February 18, 2020, 09:57:28 PM
Who's got the best deal on these for 13+?
Title: Re: Anyone know what the MSD coils put out versus the OEMS?
Post by: ridered74 on February 19, 2020, 12:12:23 AM
Post by: ridered74 on February 19, 2020, 12:12:23 AM
After I let a garbage mechanic replace my injectors, I took it to the track and ran the same times I normally run. The following weekend I changed my plugs and was shocked to find one of them gapped at .014, overall I'm pretty impressed with the MSD coils.
Title: Re: Anyone know what the MSD coils put out versus the OEMS?
Post by: SM105K on February 19, 2020, 08:32:11 AM
Post by: SM105K on February 19, 2020, 08:32:11 AM
I am really impressed with them as well. I keep my stock coils in the trunk just in case.
Title: Re: Anyone know what the MSD coils put out versus the OEMS?
Post by: 802SHO on February 19, 2020, 12:28:33 PM
Post by: 802SHO on February 19, 2020, 12:28:33 PM
Quote from: SM105K on February 19, 2020, 08:32:11 AM
I am really impressed with them as well. I keep my stock coils in the trunk just in case.
I haven't installed mine yet but I've heard so many good reviews I can't wait. Plus that GearHead dyno test with them speaks for itself.
Title: Re: Anyone know what the MSD coils put out versus the OEMS?
Post by: FiveLeeter918 on February 21, 2020, 01:03:50 AM
Post by: FiveLeeter918 on February 21, 2020, 01:03:50 AM
Quote from: StinkinLinkin13 on February 18, 2020, 09:57:28 PM
Who's got the best deal on these for 13+?
There is a guy on SHOForum that works for MSD that offers employee pricing
Even being a dealer myself, a loophole I found a while back (since I get crappy pricing) is to go to CJ Pony Parts and pick them up, then use coupon code CJSOCIAL6 for an additional 6% off.
https://www.cjponyparts.com/msd-coil-pack-red-set-3-5l-ecoboost-f-150-2011-2014/p/COILP35/ (https://www.cjponyparts.com/msd-coil-pack-red-set-3-5l-ecoboost-f-150-2011-2014/p/COILP35/)
Title: Re: Anyone know what the MSD coils put out versus the OEMS?
Post by: StinkinLinkin13 on February 21, 2020, 11:18:30 PM
Post by: StinkinLinkin13 on February 21, 2020, 11:18:30 PM
Idk. I'm really on the fence about these... They have mixed reviews and QC seems to be the primary issue. Failing after a year or sooner. The OEM Denso coils don't cost much more either. 🤔 The oems still perform great @ 50k+ miles. Gonna do plugs again and was considering this upgrade/under hood eye candy.
Title: Re: Anyone know what the MSD coils put out versus the OEMS?
Post by: StealBlueSho on February 22, 2020, 10:16:36 AM
Post by: StealBlueSho on February 22, 2020, 10:16:36 AM
Quote from: StinkinLinkin13 on February 21, 2020, 11:18:30 PM
Idk. I'm really on the fence about these... They have mixed reviews and QC seems to be the primary issue. Failing after a year or sooner. The OEM Denso coils don't cost much more either.The oems still perform great @ 50k+ miles. Gonna do plugs again and was considering this upgrade/under hood eye candy.
Mine seem to be going strong... a bit over a year at this point with several dynos, several days at the track, and a lot of data logging.
I did notice a smoother overall pull through the RPMs and smooth idle.
I gap my sp-542's at .026 as per Matt's recommendation.
Title: Re: Anyone know what the MSD coils put out versus the OEMS?
Post by: StinkinLinkin13 on June 10, 2020, 09:35:53 PM
Post by: StinkinLinkin13 on June 10, 2020, 09:35:53 PM
Just an interesting continuation... I did elect to stay oem denso and here's a great "chance" example of why. Disappointed in MSD.
https://youtu.be/KZcb4pvk8Iw
https://youtu.be/KZcb4pvk8Iw
Title: Re: Anyone know what the MSD coils put out versus the OEMS?
Post by: StealBlueSho on June 10, 2020, 10:07:19 PM
Post by: StealBlueSho on June 10, 2020, 10:07:19 PM
Quote from: StinkinLinkin13 on June 10, 2020, 09:35:53 PMInteresting that across all cylinders the graph was much smoother with OEM vs MSD...
Just an interesting continuation... I did elect to stay oem denso and here's a great "chance" example of why. Disappointed in MSD.
https://youtu.be/KZcb4pvk8Iw
Title: Re: Anyone know what the MSD coils put out versus the OEMS?
Post by: StinkinLinkin13 on June 10, 2020, 10:39:45 PM
Post by: StinkinLinkin13 on June 10, 2020, 10:39:45 PM
Yes. The consistency across all cylinders improved immediately.
Title: Re: Anyone know what the MSD coils put out versus the OEMS?
Post by: SM105K on June 11, 2020, 12:22:10 PM
Post by: SM105K on June 11, 2020, 12:22:10 PM
Before I bought mine MSD's I was weary. I wouldn't have bought them, but I got a good deal on them. I have noticed a difference in idle and upper rpm performance with them. That being said, my stock coils still ride in the trunk just in case.