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Title: What choices do we have besides livernois
Post by: rchunn on March 25, 2019, 11:57:27 PM
Looking for tuners, sorry if I put this
In the wrong area
2015 explorer EcoBoost
Thanks
Title: Re: What choices do we have besides livernois
Post by: MiWiAu on March 26, 2019, 02:32:36 AM
Brad (AJP Turbo) is the best! He's a SCT tuner/dealer and a pleasure to work with. Hit him up! :)


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Title: Re: What choices do we have besides livernois
Post by: bpd1151 on March 26, 2019, 05:26:33 AM
Besides Livernois Motorsports, the following are the most prominent, well known tuners (in no particular order, or preference) :

Unleashed Tuning (Torrie).
Gearhead Motorsports (Matt).
AJP Turbo (Brad).


I recall fellow owner's having posted other, smaller/lesser known independent vendors that performed tuning for their vehicles over the years, but don't recall immediately off hand those company names.

But suffice to say, the aforementioned one's are the "big four" with product offerings.

Plenty of arguing, debate, and opinion's on each of them.

So please, (to the OP) for the love of God, do your own research and decide for yourself upon scouring through all the posts on each of them, as to whom you will choose.

Last we need here is more rancor on who is best and blah blah blah.

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Title: What choices do we have besides livernois
Post by: MiWiAu on March 26, 2019, 05:33:29 AM
I should clarify my initial comment to say I've only had personal experience with Unleashed and AJP Turbo, and I'd much prefer to go on a second date with Brad.

True to form, BPD hit the nail square on the head. :)


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Title: Re: What choices do we have besides livernois
Post by: Brucelinc on March 26, 2019, 09:19:15 AM
When choosing a tuner, I think it is important to decide how involved YOU want to be.   Do you want a plug & play tune that requires no effort to enjoy or would you prefer to work with tuner who expects to see logs and do tweaks?   If you choose to do the logging and have the tuner do the tweaking, do you want to know exactly what he is doing and learn from the experience or are you content to just have him tweak the tune but provide no explanation of what he is doing?

At the end of the day, the choice of tuner may not make huge difference in how your car runs.  All of them will be much more enjoyable than stock.    How you get there can vary, however.
Title: Re: What choices do we have besides livernois
Post by: SM105K on March 26, 2019, 09:27:09 AM
Quote from: bpd1151 on March 26, 2019, 05:26:33 AM
Besides Livernois Motorsports, the following are the most prominent, well known tuners (in no particular order, or preference) :

Unleashed Tuning (Torrie).
Gearhead Motorsports (Matt).
AJP Turbo (Brad).


I recall fellow owner's having posted other, smaller/lesser known independent vendors that performed tuning for their vehicles over the years, but don't recall immediately off hand those company names.

But suffice to say, the aforementioned one's are the "big four" with product offerings.

Plenty of arguing, debate, and opinion's on each of them.

So please, (to the OP) for the love of God, do your own research and decide for yourself upon scouring through all the posts on each of them, as to whom you will choose.

Last we need here is more rancor on who is best and blah blah blah.

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We all know who is the best.....
Title: What choices do we have besides livernois
Post by: MiWiAu on March 26, 2019, 09:45:18 AM
Quote from: sm105k on March 26, 2019, 09:27:09 AM

We all know who is the best.....

The plaque for the alternates is down in the ladies' room.

There's two o's in "Goose," boys.

ETA: Bruce is exactly right. The first question to ask yourself is your desired level of participation. That will help narrow the pool.

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Title: Re: What choices do we have besides livernois
Post by: SM105K on March 26, 2019, 09:46:13 AM
Quote from: MiWiAu on March 26, 2019, 09:45:18 AM
Quote from: sm105k on March 26, 2019, 09:27:09 AM

We all know who is the best.....

The plaque for the alternates is down in the ladies' room.

There's two o's in "Goose," boys.




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OHHHHH JESUS!  YOU KILL ME! YOU REALLY DO!
Title: Re: What choices do we have besides livernois
Post by: mval on March 26, 2019, 10:31:07 AM
Quote from: Brucelinc on March 26, 2019, 09:19:15 AM
When choosing a tuner, I think it is important to decide how involved YOU want to be.   Do you want a plug & play tune that requires no effort to enjoy or would you prefer to work with tuner who expects to see logs and do tweaks?   If you choose to do the logging and have the tuner do the tweaking, do you want to know exactly what he is doing and learn from the experience or are you content to just have him tweak the tune but provide no explanation of what he is doing?

At the end of the day, the choice of tuner may not make huge difference in how your car runs.  All of them will be much more enjoyable than stock.    How you get there can vary, however.
agree 100% with bruce, i don't want to data log & wanted a tune that gave me more of what the sho has but not the max so i went with livernois 3yrs ago. no issue except have to reset to stock to pass state emissions inspection, don't have to worry about warranty long gone on my '10. now if i could get rid of the annoying chirp of the tires when going from 1st to 2nd. just kidding, the pony members of my ford club get a real kick out of that!!!!!!
Title: Re: What choices do we have besides livernois
Post by: HD-Rugby on August 06, 2019, 06:14:44 PM
The question is, will anybody's tune pass the  Emissions inspection that most of us have to go through. I'm very interested in doing a tune after installing catted & coated down pipes.
Title: Re: What choices do we have besides livernois
Post by: ZSHO on August 06, 2019, 06:27:59 PM
Quote from: HD-Rugby on August 06, 2019, 06:14:44 PM
The question is, will anybody's tune pass the  Emissions inspection that most of us have to go through. I'm very interested in doing a tune after installing catted & coated down pipes.
There are some Tuners which disable the Rear 02 sensors and should not be an issue as long as you have the PPE Catted version DP and if thats the case simply revert back to stock tune prior to emissions testing! OBD scan tool is a great way to monitor the I/M Readiness state and best of luck to ya. Z
Title: Re: What choices do we have besides livernois
Post by: SM105K on August 07, 2019, 08:50:03 AM
Mine will pass with flying colors even on E30.  Mods are in my sig. 
Title: Re: What choices do we have besides livernois
Post by: TopherSho on August 07, 2019, 11:29:40 AM
My opinion:

Brad (AJP)
Gearhead e20-e30 AUTOTUNE (Because you have the flex fuel sensor)
Unleashed
Title: Re: What choices do we have besides livernois
Post by: MKS Tom on August 07, 2019, 02:48:18 PM
AJP Turbo
Ortiz
Gearhead

Title: Re: What choices do we have besides livernois
Post by: Gofspar on August 07, 2019, 03:21:44 PM
AJPTurbo (Brad) gets my vote, I think he's been busy with IRL stuff though.
It's definitely a process to get it dialed in with datalogging, but the end result is definitely worth it, also nice that he'll explain what hes changed in his revisions.
Title: Re: What choices do we have besides livernois
Post by: 76fomoco on August 07, 2019, 04:15:11 PM
Quote from: Gofspar on August 07, 2019, 03:21:44 PM
AJPTurbo (Brad) gets my vote, I think he's been busy with IRL stuff though.
It's definitely a process to get it dialed in with datalogging, but the end result is definitely worth it, also nice that he'll explain what hes changed in his revisions.

I started with LMS and ended with AJP. Brad is very good at explaining what he's doing for you. But you need to do your part and be patient. I would hate to see how many sho's he's tuned   :yikes: :yikes:
Title: Re: What choices do we have besides livernois
Post by: shoNoff on August 07, 2019, 07:31:27 PM
I've had both unleashed and ajp tune my sho and now doing the same with the edge. Both are very good guys with excellent customer service. Brad at AJP explains things much more and really listens to your feed back. He's really great to work with and a smart guy. Torrie at unleashed has probably the best customer service I've ever seen. He will answer you all hours of the night. But he won't go as deep into the tune as Brad. He also really doesn't explain as deeply what he's doing and why. I honestly would recommend either. Unleashed it really simple you may get 1/2 revisions after logging. Brad really takes his time and fine tunes everything. Might be 4/5 revisions before you get exactly what you are looking for.
Title: Re: What choices do we have besides livernois
Post by: SM105K on August 07, 2019, 11:08:50 PM
AJPTURBO tuned here as well. There is a reason why. However, if Brad wasn't tuning both of my cars, I would recommend Matt at Gearhead as well.
Title: Re: What choices do we have besides livernois
Post by: HD-Rugby on August 08, 2019, 04:27:14 AM
Quote from: ZSHO on August 06, 2019, 06:27:59 PM
Quote from: HD-Rugby on August 06, 2019, 06:14:44 PM
The question is, will anybody's tune pass the  Emissions inspection that most of us have to go through. I'm very interested in doing a tune after installing catted & coated down pipes.
There are some Tuners which disable the Rear 02 sensors and should not be an issue as long as you have the PPE Catted version DP and if thats the case simply revert back to stock tune prior to emissions testing! OBD scan tool is a great way to monitor the I/M Readiness state and best of luck to ya. Z
ZSHO, thank you Sir as I've reached out to PPE regarding catted DP with coating. What is an OBD scan tool? Do I purchase from said recommend tuner? The guys on here have been great offering their experience with whom they've utilized for tuning.  I rather not have to take out the tune and revert to stock just to pass an inspection. This is all time-consuming as I will be putting at least 50,000 miles on the car this year for work.  My motto is set and forget,  just hold on and go.
Title: Re: What choices do we have besides livernois
Post by: 802SHO on August 08, 2019, 05:04:01 AM
The obd scan tool isn't the same thing as your handheld tuning device.  Both can read and clear codes but what you specifically need the scan tool for is to check the I/M readiness status for emissions.  By having that tool and checking the I/M readiness status you'll know if you will pass or fail an inspection before you actually go to get it done.  Just a nice tool to have.  You don't have to buy one though.  You can probably go to any parts store in your area and simply ask for them to check your I/M readiness status and they can do it for free.  You want the I/M readiness status to read 0.  Not sure what the standard is in all states but in VT it can read 1 and you will still pass.  Then its just a visual inspection here in VT...my guy "didn't see" anything wrong lmfao🤘

Title: Re: What choices do we have besides livernois
Post by: ridered74 on August 08, 2019, 11:01:28 AM
Quote from: HD-Rugby on August 08, 2019, 04:27:14 AM
Quote from: ZSHO on August 06, 2019, 06:27:59 PM
Quote from: HD-Rugby on August 06, 2019, 06:14:44 PM
The question is, will anybody's tune pass the  Emissions inspection that most of us have to go through. I'm very interested in doing a tune after installing catted & coated down pipes.
There are some Tuners which disable the Rear 02 sensors and should not be an issue as long as you have the PPE Catted version DP and if thats the case simply revert back to stock tune prior to emissions testing! OBD scan tool is a great way to monitor the I/M Readiness state and best of luck to ya. Z
ZSHO, thank you Sir as I've reached out to PPE regarding catted DP with coating. What is an OBD scan tool? Do I purchase from said recommend tuner? The guys on here have been great offering their experience with whom they've utilized for tuning.  I rather not have to take out the tune and revert to stock just to pass an inspection. This is all time-consuming as I will be putting at least 50,000 miles on the car this year for work.  My motto is set and forget,  just hold on and go.

Something along the lines of link below. Disclaimer, that is not the one I have, don't see it listed on google anymore but mine was about 20 bucks when I bought it.

It connects to an app on your phone. I use Torque. It sees codes that don't show up with my sct4.


https://www.wantse.com/monitor-ios--turns-your-m---obdlink-professional-grade-android-into-vehicle-windows-automotive-or-scantool-a-device-and (https://www.wantse.com/monitor-ios--turns-your-m---obdlink-professional-grade-android-into-vehicle-windows-automotive-or-scantool-a-device-and)
Title: Re: What choices do we have besides livernois
Post by: 76fomoco on August 08, 2019, 11:12:11 AM
That's a cool little gem!
Title: Re: What choices do we have besides livernois
Post by: shoNoff on August 08, 2019, 04:21:59 PM
I will tell you this. No tuner is willing to say their tune will pass emissions. Especially if you change factory emissions parts.
Title: Re: What choices do we have besides livernois
Post by: ZSHO on August 09, 2019, 05:48:36 PM
Quote from: HD-Rugby on August 08, 2019, 04:27:14 AM
Quote from: ZSHO on August 06, 2019, 06:27:59 PM
Quote from: HD-Rugby on August 06, 2019, 06:14:44 PM
The question is, will anybody's tune pass the  Emissions inspection that most of us have to go through. I'm very interested in doing a tune after installing catted & coated down pipes.
There are some Tuners which disable the Rear 02 sensors and should not be an issue as long as you have the PPE Catted version DP and if thats the case simply revert back to stock tune prior to emissions testing! OBD scan tool is a great way to monitor the I/M Readiness state and best of luck to ya. Z
ZSHO, thank you Sir as I've reached out to PPE regarding catted DP with coating. What is an OBD scan tool? Do I purchase from said recommend tuner? The guys on here have been great offering their experience with whom they've utilized for tuning.  I rather not have to take out the tune and revert to stock just to pass an inspection. This is all time-consuming as I will be putting at least 50,000 miles on the car this year for work.  My motto is set and forget,  just hold on and go.
Its my pleasure to help out! :) I guess you can take the OBD Route or a better alternative would be to specifically tell your Tuner of choice to not Disable the Rear 02 (Down-stream) sensors on the pipes for precautionary measures and set it and forget it rule will apply! Best of luck on your Quest. Z
 

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