Just wanted to give everyone the opportunity to change my mind before I go ahead and order the tune and parts from LMS. Seems like there's a divided opinion on this forum about which tune is the best.
I will be running 93 octane, and want good performance without over-stressing the car. It is my daily driver and I want it to last. It's a 2014 with 25k miles on it. I'm in Minnesota where the weather is frigid and cold half the year.
Thanks everyone and I'll update with my first impressions after I get the tune!
how to you expect anyone to convince you how to spend your money?
I think what you're really after is validation to prevent buyer's remorse... LMS is great, you'll be happy with them
I will post at lunch time and maybe give you an insightful nugget
I vote for AJP Turbo ftw.
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Quote from: J-Will on January 04, 2018, 11:11:32 AM
how to you expect anyone to convince you how to spend your money?
I think what you're really after is validation to prevent buyer's remorse... LMS is great, you'll be happy with them
Because I trust the opinions of people who own vehicles with the various tunes I have been shopping for. It's not about buyers remorse, it's about making the most informed decision. So far LMS has looked like the best option, but I know there are plenty of other people here who believe otherwise. I just want to hear their opinions first.
I won't try to change your mind on anything but I will ask you a three questions. How involved do you want to be in the tuning process? How much do you want to know about the specifics of your tune? Are you more interested in a plug & play tune or would you prefer to have a tune tailored to your specific car based on information provided to the tuner through datalogging?
Oh...one piece of advice: Don't do anything until you hear the nugget from AJP turbo.
I think LMS is top notch, reputable and a pioneer for the platform.
The only reason I chose not to buy into their ecosystem is because the tuning hardware was built in-house and proprietary to them. I think of it as the Apply ecosystem- sure its great... until you dont want, or would like something else that their vertical supply chain does not offer. So "I'm a PC" which allows me to pick and choose my components, in this case tuners.
The only drawback (if this is one) to going the LME route is the tuning device is proprietary. So if you choose to move away from LME, you have to buy an SCT or HP Tuners etc device instead. Although the resale market for LME devices is pretty good.
Bruce pretty much summed it up. And you can't really go wrong with SCT.
Some people enjoy being part of the tuning process...Some people want to push a little harder. Some want to request additional things to a tune to suit their taste.
Sometimes customers want to know what is going on and tuners often don't like to reveal exactly what they are doing. But many details actually can be discussed with out actually telling you exactly how things are achieved.
You can even have a mild "custom tune" if you requested such from tuner.
If you ever think you will be interested in seeing good data from your car then LMS may not be the best idea as there is no good datalogging software available to you
Welcome ScOpe! I think a good place to start is by setting up an intro .TIA. Z
https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/board,14.0.html (https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/board,14.0.html)
I have both a explorer sport and SHO tuned by Livernois and combined over 85K miles between them. To date no issues and they run strong. Personally I don't track the cars or constantly race them but if I did and were looking for every last HP then I feel data logging is the way to go. Personally they are just daily drivers that are a blast to drive and occasionally hurt the feelings of the unsuspected mustang or Camaro.
As stated earlier it all depends on what your looking for and what you intend to do. There are plenty of reputable tuners out there it will come down to your needs and confidence level after you have researched the companies.
We have an amazing tune for your vehicle and are experts when it comes to the taurus sho, we have a very safe tune that still pulls great power and we can even make minor adjustments to the tune at no cost as well and we also offer lifetime support for the original vehicle of purchase with the device!
Like people have said. If you don't care about data logging and knowing exactly what's going on with the car, LMS all day every day. They are safe, easy, and from I've seen, reliable. Now, if you want to know what's going on with the car. You want to be able to datalog the car and see what is happening, AJPTurbo is the only way to go. He is the Wizard, the Man, the Legend. Also, he's a cool dude to talk to.
Thank you all for the input! This is my first time getting involved in any kind of tuning, so I think the best place for me to start is with a plug and play type of system and working from there if I ever want to delve into it further. I will probably stick with the original plan of going with LMS.
I'll definitely be lurking around this forum to keep up to date with everything, and I'll update after I'm all tuned up!
Thanks again, everyone!
Sounds great buddy, feel free to give us a call anytime and ill be glad to help you out! 313-561-5500 extension 104 or ask for cody!
I personally would go with an SCT tuner (in device and the person doing the tune) because the datalogging is nice to have should there ever be an issue, and being able to actually dial the tune in to the car itself is very nice as well. Along with that, LMS "brand parts" are generally just rebranded versions of the other aftermarket parts available, possibly with slight visual changes, and rarely offer more performance than the other options, while costing more due to the "name". I would recommend shopping around for the parts you want, as you can save a lot. If you have the patience, a lot of nice used parts will pop up on the classifieds here from time to time.