I took my car today to get a dyno done before the ATP turbos get here next week. This dyno is the stock turbos upgraded with a billet stock size compressor wheel. I was fighting some tuning gremlins but we were able to get this run out clean rolling in late at 3500RPM to WOT. I had another dyno that actually hit 480+ HP but the throttle closed and shut the run down.
The crazy curves are due to us having to baby the car into high boost, I need to do a better job of tuning fuel AND the car was lifting off the rollers if we floored it down low.
This shows a solid 50+ HP capable on adding the cheapest turbo upgrade at $1600 a pair over the stock turbos. I believe this is also the highest HP dyno (according to my discussion with BPD today) I thought somebody had done 500WHP but I can't find the dyno.
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No...my dyno from last year was 423hp and 521tq. That was wheel hp and not corrected power...that's kind of "peaky" no?
Quote from: darreli on September 13, 2013, 08:30:50 PM
No...my dyno from last year was 423hp and 521tq. That was wheel hp and not corrected power...that's kind of "peaky" no?
We were rolling into it pretty late, not WOT until around 3700 RPM.
That's wheel HP, it's corrected for atmospheric conditions temp/weather etc, pretty standard stuff.
I'm waiting for the pfd file of the run with boost/AFR, they might be gone for the day though.
I also had a partial pull at 485HP but the ECU started seeing the car go lean and shut the throttle... Also did a partial pull with the cutout open, saw over 27psi but also went lean and the car shut itself down.
No reason to spend a ton of time on tuning this setup when I'll have a completely different setup in 2 weeks, just wanted to show what the car could do on these turbos for information's sake before the swap.
Yea, I did inform 4DR when he told me hit 459 that I believed that was the best dyno thus far in an Eco.....
I didn't realize he was referring to "corrected power" when he said that.
Moving along......
Darrell, I thought it was you that had the 435awhp dyno, but it must've been FirstSHO.
:hmmm:
Either way, you guys are all collectively at the peak of the mountain so to speak, and it will be interesting to see how the future unfolds for these next latest round of mods coming out.
I would hope, for everyone's sake, that someone can cross that dubious 11 barrier that's been so incredibly elusive thus far.....
Keep working on it fella's.
Between tuning & actual, bonafide upgrades, someone's bound to get there sooner, rather than later!
Mike :beer:
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Quote from: darreli on September 13, 2013, 08:30:50 PM
No...my dyno from last year was 423hp and 521tq. That was wheel hp and not corrected power...that's kind of "peaky" no?
I found a copy of your dyno, it's SAE corrected as well. :)
http://wahiduddin.net/calc/cf.htm (http://wahiduddin.net/calc/cf.htm)
Top right, SAE = SAE corrected, same as mine. All dynos do it.
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Use this link and zoom in:
http://i540.photobucket.com/albums/gg324/LivernoisMotorsports/shoturboupgrade.jpg (http://i540.photobucket.com/albums/gg324/LivernoisMotorsports/shoturboupgrade.jpg)
How are the transmissions doing with this kind of power? I'm curious at what point will something give.
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Me too....
So far so good with the tranny, we'll see in a couple of weeks! :D
Who knew? Thats awesome
As i've stated previously, I was told during the course of my tour at the CAP, that FMC tested the 3.5 EB Platform to the range of 700-720bhp, before any experiences presented themselves.
Now, I was not told what those failures were, and nor did I ask.
But these power plants have been up to the range indicated above, before things started heading South so to speak.
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I'm just curious as how this AWD system will handle high HP launches, considering it's a FWD until it senses slip AWD system...instead of a true 50/50 AWD system.
Quote from: bpd1151 on September 13, 2013, 10:07:26 PM
As i've stated previously, I was told during the course of my tour at the CAP, that FMC tested the 3.5 EB Platform to the range of 700-720bhp, before any experiences presented themselves.
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If we are still speaking related to the transmission... I'm sure that was on an engine dyno though and not an indication of what the transmission can handle.
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For the upgrades turbos, do you have to upgrade any fuel system components, and what? How capable is the stock fuel system?
Quote from: QwikSHO on September 13, 2013, 11:06:34 PM
I'm just curious as how this AWD system will handle high HP launches, considering it's a FWD until it senses slip AWD system...instead of a true 50/50 AWD system.
Forscan has shown, at least in gen 4.2 that when brake boosting from a standstill, power is automagically sent to the rear.
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on October 22, 2014, 01:39:09 PM
Quote from: QwikSHO on September 13, 2013, 11:06:34 PM
I'm just curious as how this AWD system will handle high HP launches, considering it's a FWD until it senses slip AWD system...instead of a true 50/50 AWD system.
Forscan has shown, at least in gen 4.2 that when brake boosting from a standstill, power is automagically sent to the rear.
Gen 4.2, as in 2013 and up?
^^^yup
Rich
Handles it quite well I think. AWD Gauge demonstrated: http://youtu.be/GSz8OaivNQI
I feel like every time i do a boost launch only my front wheels are spining. I get some nasty wheel hopp in first.... but i can cherp going into second. Does this seem normal?
The spinning of the front tires and the chirp in 2nd is normal,you had to see the grin on my face at first,what tires are you running with,did you ever notice that wheel hop in stock mode?also try playing with your tire psi,also the colder weather can contribute to the wheel hop,good luck.
wasinger's car is a beast!
How did you get that enabled? I'd like to see if my dealer will do it for me..
Quote from: PokerMunkee on October 23, 2014, 12:45:26 PM
wasinger's car is a beast!
He'll yeah it is!! a sub 4sec 0-60... Beast mode!!!
Would love to see some 60' times with that sub 4....nice
Rich
Quote from: PokerMunkee on October 23, 2014, 12:45:26 PM
wasinger's car is a beast!
How did you get that enabled? I'd like to see if my dealer will do it for me..
Thanks! It's actually really simple. Took less than a minute to enter in the changes. Just ask if your dealer has any experience with "as build data" in the ICM.
Quote from: glock-coma on October 23, 2014, 01:19:06 PM
Quote from: PokerMunkee on October 23, 2014, 12:45:26 PM
wasinger's car is a beast!
He'll yeah it is!! a sub 4sec 0-60... Beast mode!!!
Quote from: SHOnUup on October 23, 2014, 01:22:45 PM
Would love to see some 60' times with that sub 4....nice
Rich
I would of went to the track last Friday but Torrie is still dialing in the tune. I'm excited to see how it does cause it pulls just as hard past the big numbers.
Quote from: wasinger3000 on October 23, 2014, 10:48:49 PM
Quote from: glock-coma on October 23, 2014, 01:19:06 PM
Quote from: PokerMunkee on October 23, 2014, 12:45:26 PM
wasinger's car is a beast!
He'll yeah it is!! a sub 4sec 0-60... Beast mode!!!
Quote from: SHOnUup on October 23, 2014, 01:22:45 PM
Would love to see some 60' times with that sub 4....nice
Rich
I would of went to the track last Friday but Torrie is still dialing in the tune. I'm excited to see how it does cause it pulls just as hard past the big numbers.
What percentage of meth are you running?
Quote from: SHOmanMike84 on October 23, 2014, 11:54:47 PM
Quote from: wasinger3000 on October 23, 2014, 10:48:49 PM
Quote from: glock-coma on October 23, 2014, 01:19:06 PM
Quote from: PokerMunkee on October 23, 2014, 12:45:26 PM
wasinger's car is a beast!
He'll yeah it is!! a sub 4sec 0-60... Beast mode!!!
Quote from: SHOnUup on October 23, 2014, 01:22:45 PM
Would love to see some 60' times with that sub 4....nice
Rich
I would of went to the track last Friday but Torrie is still dialing in the tune. I'm excited to see how it does cause it pulls just as hard past the big numbers.
What percentage of meth are you running?
90% Meth/ 10% Water. Works out quite well.
Quote from: wasinger3000 on October 23, 2014, 11:56:15 PM
Quote from: SHOmanMike84 on October 23, 2014, 11:54:47 PM
Quote from: wasinger3000 on October 23, 2014, 10:48:49 PM
Quote from: glock-coma on October 23, 2014, 01:19:06 PM
Quote from: PokerMunkee on October 23, 2014, 12:45:26 PM
wasinger's car is a beast!
He'll yeah it is!! a sub 4sec 0-60... Beast mode!!!
Quote from: SHOnUup on October 23, 2014, 01:22:45 PM
Would love to see some 60' times with that sub 4....nice
Rich
I would of went to the track last Friday but Torrie is still dialing in the tune. I'm excited to see how it does cause it pulls just as hard past the big numbers.
What percentage of meth are you running?
90% Meth/ 10% Water. Works out quite well.
Sure as hell looks like it lol. Which kit do you have?
Quote from: SHOmanMike84 on October 24, 2014, 12:01:42 AM
Quote from: wasinger3000 on October 23, 2014, 11:56:15 PM
Quote from: SHOmanMike84 on October 23, 2014, 11:54:47 PM
Quote from: wasinger3000 on October 23, 2014, 10:48:49 PM
Quote from: glock-coma on October 23, 2014, 01:19:06 PM
Quote from: PokerMunkee on October 23, 2014, 12:45:26 PM
wasinger's car is a beast!
He'll yeah it is!! a sub 4sec 0-60... Beast mode!!!
Quote from: SHOnUup on October 23, 2014, 01:22:45 PM
Would love to see some 60' times with that sub 4....nice
Rich
I would of went to the track last Friday but Torrie is still dialing in the tune. I'm excited to see how it does cause it pulls just as hard past the big numbers.
What percentage of meth are you running?
90% Meth/ 10% Water. Works out quite well.
Sure as hell looks like it lol. Which kit do you have?
It's a devils own pump and controller but I'm using a different nozzle that is recessed 120mm past the intake tube which helps with atomization. Also pushing 13.6 gph at 300 psi. As well as experimenting with a UCL which seems to be helping.
Quote from: ZSHO on October 23, 2014, 06:28:36 AM
The spinning of the front tires and the chirp in 2nd is normal,you had to see the grin on my face at first,what tires are you running with,did you ever notice that wheel hop in stock mode?also try playing with your tire psi,also the colder weather can contribute to the wheel hop,good luck.
Im running eagle gts on it right now. Nope never did this with the stock tune. Actually it didnt start doing it untill i got some really good BP 93.5 octane instead of the crap KwikTrip 92 octane. Car feels like it added 40 horse with just different gasoline!
If playing with the tire psi did not help would email Torrie and ask him for his suggestion,with a tune there is more torque on those four wheels,check the front end for play,could be suspension related cause of the increased torque,hp.