I am definitely happy with the Motorcraft PP pads but i was looking to possibly upgrade to the AKEBONO ACT1611 ProACT Ultra Premium Ceramic Pads that should fit the front on a PP SHO and the rear's are AKEBONO ACT1612 and the only reason is because i had great results on my other cars with limited brake dust and overall great stopping power and they were very quiet to the touch and the best part is they do make both the front and rear's for the PP which sometimes can be a pita to find a matching set especially with aftermarket pads. Z Front ACT1611 64.79 http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=4754307&cc=1503823&jsn=512&jsn=512&jsn=512 (http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=4754307&cc=1503823&jsn=512&jsn=512&jsn=512) Rear ACT1612 58.79 http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=4754340&cc=1503823&jsn=511&jsn=511&jsn=511 (http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=4754340&cc=1503823&jsn=511&jsn=511&jsn=511) http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,brake/wheel+hub,brake+pad,1684?a=Referer+www.google.com+URL+%2F (http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,brake/wheel+hub,brake+pad,1684?a=Referer+www.google.com+URL+%2F)
If you try them, let us know how they work out. I tried AKEBONO ceramics one time 95 SHO) and for me that was enough. Went back to Performance Friction semimetallics. Dusty but trusty.
-MANU Thanks for the heads up.....might just stick with the Motorcrafts which are also much cheaper. Z Motorcrafts 13+ PP-SHO
Fronts 40.79 DG1Z2001F
http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=5808957&cc=1503823&jsn=482&jsn=482&jsn=482 (http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=5808957&cc=1503823&jsn=482&jsn=482&jsn=482)
Rear $45.99 DG1Z2200B
http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?
pk=3901566&cc=1503823&jsn=485&jsn=485&jsn=485 (http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=3901566&cc=1503823&jsn=485&jsn=485&jsn=485) http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,brake/wheel+hub,brake+pad,1684?a=Referer+www.google.com+URL+%2F (http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,brake/wheel+hub,brake+pad,1684?%3Cbr%20/%3E%3Cbr%20/%3Ea=Referer+www.google.com+URL+%2F)
Didn't mean to influence your decision, Z! It is interesting that Amazon notes this for the front pads ...
AKEBONO IS THE ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT MANUFACTURER
https://www.amazon.com/ProACT-ACT1611-Akebono-Premium-Ceramic/dp/B00JEMFL4U/ (https://www.amazon.com/ProACT-ACT1611-Akebono-Premium-Ceramic/dp/B00JEMFL4U/)
Trying to find reviews, not so easy ...
There are some options and some reviews on TireRack, though not sure of the actual vehicles for the reviews. Just thought I would share!
http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/results.jsp?autoMake=Ford&autoModel=Taurus&autoYear=2015&autoModClar=SHO (http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/results.jsp?autoMake=Ford&autoModel=Taurus&autoYear=2015&autoModClar=SHO)
I would definitely pair ceramic pads with high carbon rotors for best performance. Ceramics are hard on rotors.
Old thread but i just switched from powerstop to the akebono pads on my 2011 and it is a great improvement.
Good to know :thumb:
Looking at throwing out the OEM PP front pads, way too dusty. Gonna have to price some of the Akebono ceramics, or does anyone else have some recommended ceramics?
Quote from: Primalzer on September 01, 2017, 04:29:13 PM
Looking at throwing out the OEM PP front pads, way too dusty. Gonna have to price some of the Akebono ceramics, or does anyone else have some recommended ceramics?
AKEBONO ACT1158. . ProACT Ultra Premium Ceramic Pad w/ Premium Stainless Hardware Front; w/SHO Performance Brakes; OE Pad Material is Ceramic. Z
54.79 ea
Discount code 491DE1CF932A65
http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2012,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1501990,brake+&+wheel+hub,brake+pad,1684 (http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2012,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1501990,brake+&+wheel+hub,brake+pad,1684)
http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=947105&cc=1501990&jsn=612 (http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=947105&cc=1501990&jsn=612)
Thought I would throw this out....my favorite is Hawk hp, never had any rotor problems or mismatches, dusty but not really bad and to me the performance upgrade is worth it, good in winter and summer and wet. Years ago Performance Friction was the go to street pads. These SHO PP set is ok, works as described, I can't wait to throw on the Hawks when I need them.
Quote from: ZSHO on September 01, 2017, 05:06:21 PM
Quote from: Primalzer on September 01, 2017, 04:29:13 PM
Looking at throwing out the OEM PP front pads, way too dusty. Gonna have to price some of the Akebono ceramics, or does anyone else have some recommended ceramics?
AKEBONO ACT1158. . ProACT Ultra Premium Ceramic Pad w/ Premium Stainless Hardware Front; w/SHO Performance Brakes; OE Pad Material is Ceramic. Z
54.79 ea
Discount code 491DE1CF932A65
http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2012,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1501990,brake+&+wheel+hub,brake+pad,1684 (http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2012,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1501990,brake+&+wheel+hub,brake+pad,1684)
http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=947105&cc=1501990&jsn=612 (http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=947105&cc=1501990&jsn=612)
Now here's a question, what's the difference between '10-12 SHO PP brakes and '13+ SHO and Police brakes? Looks like they are definitely different part numbers.
The part numbers are all over the place...from what I understand, all the calipers/rotors went to the larger format in 2013...but there are still differing part numbers. I know that I went with 2013+ SHO package (which also is '13+ Police package) calipers BRCF208/BRCF209, which it doesn't seem those particular pads would fit. The Akebono ceramics for my caliper would look to be ACT1611
http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=4754307&cc=3294283&jsn=10807 (http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=4754307&cc=3294283&jsn=10807)
http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,police+interceptor+utility,3.7l+v6,3294283,brake+&+wheel+hub,brake+pad,1684 (http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,police+interceptor+utility,3.7l+v6,3294283,brake+&+wheel+hub,brake+pad,1684)
@ Primalzer thought you were referencing to your Flex!!
These are for the 13+PP SHO.!!
AKEBONO ACT1611 {#DG1Z2001A, DG1Z2001D} ProACT Ultra Premium Ceramic Pad w/ Premium Stainless Hardware Info
Front; w/SHO; w/Standard Brakes; Akebono is the Original Equipment Manufacturer; OE Pad Material is Ceramic (Only 3 Remaining). Z
Total 59.09 with promo code applied and shipping.
http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=4754307&cc=1503823&jsn=548 (http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=4754307&cc=1503823&jsn=548)
http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,brake+&+wheel+hub,brake+pad,1684 (http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,brake+&+wheel+hub,brake+pad,1684)
http://www.automobile-catalog.com/performance/2013/1596620/ford_taurus_sho.html (http://www.automobile-catalog.com/performance/2013/1596620/ford_taurus_sho.html)
http://www.automobile-catalog.com/auta_details1.php (http://www.automobile-catalog.com/auta_details1.php)
Yeah, sorry, forgot to mention that I've done the SHO PP/Police caliper/rotor swap on the fronts. The OEM semi-metallic pads are ridiculously dusty. Hence wanting to go ceramic.
Quote from: Primalzer on September 05, 2017, 04:05:20 PM
Yeah, sorry, forgot to mention that I've done the SHO PP/Police caliper/rotor swap on the fronts. The OEM semi-metallic pads are ridiculously dusty. Hence wanting to go ceramic.
Same with the Raybestos Police spec PP pads. They are making a mess of my wheels. To the point that I'm cleaning them twice a week just so they don't look too horrible. One short errand run has my wheels dusty. Three to four has my wheels black.
Those Akebono's are looking pretty good! I would also need the PP pads as I swapped calipers also. Cheapest brake upgrade ever!
Quote from: sholxgt on September 05, 2017, 04:24:31 PM
Quote from: Primalzer on September 05, 2017, 04:05:20 PM
Yeah, sorry, forgot to mention that I've done the SHO PP/Police caliper/rotor swap on the fronts. The OEM semi-metallic pads are ridiculously dusty. Hence wanting to go ceramic.
Same with the Raybestos Police spec PP pads. They are making a mess of my wheels. To the point that I'm cleaning them twice a week just so they don't look too horrible. One short errand run has my wheels dusty. Three to four has my wheels black.
Those Akebono's are looking pretty good! I would also need the PP pads as I swapped calipers also. Cheapest brake upgrade ever!
Seriously, when I worked the prices, even with all Motorcraft parts, it ended up being like $100 more than a standard rotor/pad swap. A little extra work, but WELL worth it, IMO. Hell, Rockauto even took my old non-PP calipers on core.
Quote from: Primalzer on September 05, 2017, 04:05:20 PM
Yeah, sorry, forgot to mention that I've done the SHO PP/Police caliper/rotor swap on the fronts. The OEM semi-metallic pads are ridiculously dusty. Hence wanting to go ceramic.
I hope they live up to there expectations and are Dust-free for many,many days to come.......Best of luck and keep us updated on any progress. Z
Had pretty good luck with EBC rotors/Red Pads, will be updating soon not sure if to go with reds again or possibly yellow pads.
Quote from: Primalzer on September 05, 2017, 05:12:47 PM
Seriously, when I worked the prices, even with all Motorcraft parts, it ended up being like $100 more than a standard rotor/pad swap. A little extra work, but WELL worth it, IMO. Hell, Rockauto even took my old non-PP calipers on core.
So thats all the extra it would be to do the fronts and rear with PP calipers. Rotors. Pads. ? Or $100 front and $100 rear.
Quote from: Macgyver on September 05, 2017, 09:45:16 PM
Quote from: Primalzer on September 05, 2017, 05:12:47 PM
Seriously, when I worked the prices, even with all Motorcraft parts, it ended up being like $100 more than a standard rotor/pad swap. A little extra work, but WELL worth it, IMO. Hell, Rockauto even took my old non-PP calipers on core.
So thats all the extra it would be to do the fronts and rear with PP calipers. Rotors. Pads. ? Or $100 front and $100 rear.
Rear calipers are the same between '13+ PP and non-PP
Thats not bad then. If you want to go that route.
Quote from: sholxgt on September 05, 2017, 10:41:13 PM
Quote from: Macgyver on September 05, 2017, 09:45:16 PM
Quote from: Primalzer on September 05, 2017, 05:12:47 PM
Seriously, when I worked the prices, even with all Motorcraft parts, it ended up being like $100 more than a standard rotor/pad swap. A little extra work, but WELL worth it, IMO. Hell, Rockauto even took my old non-PP calipers on core.
So thats all the extra it would be to do the fronts and rear with PP calipers. Rotors. Pads. ? Or $100 front and $100 rear.
Rear calipers are the same between '13+ PP and non-PP
Are you sure? The non-PP rotors are not vented, whereas the PP's are. Have not checked the part numbers though...
Unless you mean all '13+ vehicles. Everything <'12 besides SHO PP cars, had non-vented rears I believe.
Quote from: Macgyver on September 05, 2017, 09:45:16 PM
Quote from: Primalzer on September 05, 2017, 05:12:47 PM
Seriously, when I worked the prices, even with all Motorcraft parts, it ended up being like $100 more than a standard rotor/pad swap. A little extra work, but WELL worth it, IMO. Hell, Rockauto even took my old non-PP calipers on core.
So thats all the extra it would be to do the fronts and rear with PP calipers. Rotors. Pads. ? Or $100 front and $100 rear.
That's just for the fronts, I didn't feel like it was worth the time and effort to go through the rears, plus both my rear calipers are brand new Motorcraft units.
Here's the part number chart I used for the Motorcraft parts when I did them. A couple items of note: Amazon had the lowest shipping prices, then Rockauto, then Tasca. Probably should've included shipping. This was also 6+ months ago, so prices do fluctuate, so they probably are different now.
(http://i.imgur.com/VNAQfhD.jpg)
Quote from: Primalzer on September 06, 2017, 11:40:56 AM
Quote from: sholxgt on September 05, 2017, 10:41:13 PM
Quote from: Macgyver on September 05, 2017, 09:45:16 PM
Quote from: Primalzer on September 05, 2017, 05:12:47 PM
Seriously, when I worked the prices, even with all Motorcraft parts, it ended up being like $100 more than a standard rotor/pad swap. A little extra work, but WELL worth it, IMO. Hell, Rockauto even took my old non-PP calipers on core.
So thats all the extra it would be to do the fronts and rear with PP calipers. Rotors. Pads. ? Or $100 front and $100 rear.
Rear calipers are the same between '13+ PP and non-PP
Are you sure? The non-PP rotors are not vented, whereas the PP's are. Have not checked the part numbers though...
Unless you mean all '13+ vehicles. Everything <'12 besides SHO PP cars, had non-vented rears I believe.
Right. I'm speaking only of '13+. AFAIK, the only difference between PP and non-PP on '13+ cars are the front calipers and front and rear pads.
Quote from: sholxgt on September 06, 2017, 01:13:23 PM
Quote from: Primalzer on September 06, 2017, 11:40:56 AM
Quote from: sholxgt on September 05, 2017, 10:41:13 PM
Quote from: Macgyver on September 05, 2017, 09:45:16 PM
Quote from: Primalzer on September 05, 2017, 05:12:47 PM
Seriously, when I worked the prices, even with all Motorcraft parts, it ended up being like $100 more than a standard rotor/pad swap. A little extra work, but WELL worth it, IMO. Hell, Rockauto even took my old non-PP calipers on core.
So thats all the extra it would be to do the fronts and rear with PP calipers. Rotors. Pads. ? Or $100 front and $100 rear.
Rear calipers are the same between '13+ PP and non-PP
Are you sure? The non-PP rotors are not vented, whereas the PP's are. Have not checked the part numbers though...
Unless you mean all '13+ vehicles. Everything <'12 besides SHO PP cars, had non-vented rears I believe.
Right. I'm speaking only of '13+. AFAIK, the only difference between PP and non-PP on '13+ cars are the front calipers and front and rear pads.
Got it, yeah and even the differences between the front PP and non-PP calipers is questionable. I believe the pistons on the PP's have a higher temp threshold, but they are physically the same size from what I can gather.
Different seals on the calipers, plus the pistons are drilled to allow for better cooling.
How are the Akebono pads vs stock PP SHO pads vs Hawk HPS?
The stock PP are ok. I've used performance friction aftermarket, Redstuff, Hawk HPS, PP stock and several others on my recent performance cars. Redstuff I had rotor issues, lasted 10 000 miles. Best luck I've had was with the Hawk HPS on several vehicles. I'd like to do the Hawks with my stock rotors with the vents, but if Akebono ceramic is better I would try them...any opinions?
Quote from: avidmotion on September 24, 2017, 09:02:47 PM
How are the Akebono pads vs stock PP SHO pads vs Hawk HPS?
The stock PP are ok. I've used performance friction aftermarket, Redstuff, Hawk HPS, PP stock and several others on my recent performance cars. Redstuff I had rotor issues, lasted 10 000 miles. Best luck I've had was with the Hawk HPS on several vehicles. I'd like to do the Hawks with my stock rotors with the vents, but if Akebono ceramic is better I would try them...any opinions?
I'm on a few days with the Akebono ProACT ceramic fronts. Honestly, the bite is pretty much the same as the OEM semi-metallics. The ceramics maybe ever so slightly better bite, but very well could be my imagination. Either way, not a huge difference IMO. So far, the noise and the dust have been nill with the ceramics, which is mainly what I was chasing.
Quote from: Primalzer on September 25, 2017, 03:19:03 PM
Quote from: avidmotion on September 24, 2017, 09:02:47 PM
How are the Akebono pads vs stock PP SHO pads vs Hawk HPS?
The stock PP are ok. I've used performance friction aftermarket, Redstuff, Hawk HPS, PP stock and several others on my recent performance cars. Redstuff I had rotor issues, lasted 10 000 miles. Best luck I've had was with the Hawk HPS on several vehicles. I'd like to do the Hawks with my stock rotors with the vents, but if Akebono ceramic is better I would try them...any opinions?
I'm on a few days with the Akebono ProACT ceramic fronts. Honestly, the bite is pretty much the same as the OEM semi-metallics. The ceramics maybe ever so slightly better bite, but very well could be my imagination. Either way, not a huge difference IMO. So far, the noise and the dust have been nill with the ceramics, which is mainly what I was chasing.
I would give them a couple hundred mile break in period!!
The ceramic brake pads work better once there warmed up and you will notice an overall initial improvement in stopping power,enjoy. Z
Break-in/Bedding procedure below
https://www.zeckhausen.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=6446_6443 (https://www.zeckhausen.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=6446_6443)
http://stoptech.com/technical-support/technical-white-papers/bed-in-theory-definitions-and-procedures/brake-pad-bed-in (http://stoptech.com/technical-support/technical-white-papers/bed-in-theory-definitions-and-procedures/brake-pad-bed-in)
I should've said, I'm a bit over 100 miles in. A couple of days, especially a weekend, is a decent amount of miles for me.
I usually bed my pads doing 5-6 concurrent hard braking stops from 40 mph with 1/2 mile inbetween to keep the temperature down.
I wash my car twice a week, rims too SI I don't care about dust but I think the stock ones are not really dusty to me. I rather have better stopping power with no other compromises like squealing, pulsating , hard pedal or long warm up. Still leaning Hawk hps. Hard driven daily driver, dot 4 fluid and I have SS brake lines.
Here are the Motorcraft Performance package part numbers as you requested,hope this helps any. Z :)
I might try to dedicate a section or sticky this. Z :hmmm:
13+PP-SHO
DG1Z2001F Brake Pads
DG1Z2200B Brake Pads
DG1Z1125C Rotors
DG1Z2C026A Rotors
http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,brake+&+wheel+hub,brake+pad,1684 (http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,brake+&+wheel+hub,brake+pad,1684)
http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=5808957&cc=1503823&jsn=10528 (http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=5808957&cc=1503823&jsn=10528)
http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=3901566&cc=1503823&jsn=10539 (http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=3901566&cc=1503823&jsn=10539)
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Struts-Shocks,strut mounts/bearings,etc can be found below.
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I used the DG1Z1125C rotors for my upgrade swap.
I also used the DG1Z2001F semi-metllaic pads.
Fitment was great and performance was good. Only thing I will say is the DG1Z2001F pads create a lot of dust. I went to the Akebono ProACT ceramics, and they are of similar price as the OEM's, but the performance is a touch better and there's far less dust and noise.
Quote from: Primalzer on September 06, 2017, 11:40:56 AM
Quote from: sholxgt on September 05, 2017, 10:41:13 PM
Quote from: Macgyver on September 05, 2017, 09:45:16 PM
Quote from: Primalzer on September 05, 2017, 05:12:47 PM
Seriously, when I worked the prices, even with all Motorcraft parts, it ended up being like $100 more than a standard rotor/pad swap. A little extra work, but WELL worth it, IMO. Hell, Rockauto even took my old non-PP calipers on core.
So thats all the extra it would be to do the fronts and rear with PP calipers. Rotors. Pads. ? Or $100 front and $100 rear.
Rear calipers are the same between '13+ PP and non-PP
Are you sure? The non-PP rotors are not vented, whereas the PP's are. Have not checked the part numbers though...
Unless you mean all '13+ vehicles. Everything <'12 besides SHO PP cars, had non-vented rears I believe.
FYI, My 2012 SHO PP has non-vented rear rotors.
I just swapped my 2010 brakes to 2014 brakes with akebono pads, and I haven't noticed any brake dust at all. Also night and day braking performance upgrade with the larger rotors all around.
Anyone have any experience with the Akebono Performance ASP pads for this car? I've gotten over 70K miles off the original OEM brakes, and I'm just going to replace everything and flush the fluid, and I'm leaning towards the Performance pads over the ACT pads.
Years upon years ago and comparing to semimetallics. The ACT pads sucked bigtime. I had them put on because my service shop recommended them, but they were poor performers compared to the PF SMs I had.
No idea on the ASP pads.
I used Akebono once, they were ceramic metallic i believe, this was on a buick regal gs....they sucked, I changed them out to Hawk and found love...
I installed Akebono's ACT1611 on the front of my 2018 Explorer XLT (they get the 352mm HD front brakes, same as the SHO non-PP) and the Edge Code is FF. Stock edge code was FG, also made by Akebono (OEM factory). I didn't feel any improvement in braking performance. From day 1 of this 2018 Explorer, the braking was never very confident. Coming from a SHO and a Fusion Sport, I had to brake hard very early with the explorer to get it to stop where I wanted. I am going to try Akebono's ASP1611 pads in the near future, as those have a GG edge code and are supposed to be better for performance. The Akebono ACT1377B rear pads have a GG edge code FWIW.
Ford uses Akebono for their factory pads in many many many applications. My 07 Mustang GT's stock pads were all Akebono and were low dust and lasted damn near forever. Stopping power wasn't jawbreaking by any means. But they are soft on the rotors and the pads last a long time. Negative aspect is they have a tough time removing bad rust from the rotors and aren't the best for outright braking power.