I am seriously considering picking up a used Coyote Mustang. Two reasons: I think it would be fun going to the track with it. Secondly, it would make a nice project car...maybe adding a supercharger in the future among other things. There is tons of after market support for Mustangs and they are pretty bullet proof.
I am currently negotiating on a super clean 2016 with the 3.55 gear and manual 6 speed. It already has an Airaid CAI and a resonator delete. It has never been tuned but obviously that will change if I get it. Livernois has a good tune and I already have a MyCal. The car runs really well and sounds wickedly good.
Quote from: Brucelinc on January 22, 2018, 09:29:00 PM
I am seriously considering picking up a used Coyote Mustang. Two reasons: I think it would be fun going to the track with it. Secondly, it would make a nice project car...maybe adding a supercharger in the future among other things. There is tons of after market support for Mustangs and they are pretty bullet proof.
I am currently negotiating on a super clean 2016 with the 3.55 gear and manual 6 speed. It already has an Airaid CAI and a resonator delete. It has never been tuned but obviously that will change if I get it. Livernois has a good tune and I already have a MyCal. The car runs really well and sounds wickedly good.
If you are going for a 1/4 mile car get the automatic...throw a 6k blower on and a torque converter and drag radials and you can run 10's..ask me how I know....and bruce there are many excellent remote tuners for coyotes...you are no stranger to data logging now...you can get a way better tune doing it remotely than a dyno tune and I can refer you to a couple outstanding tuners
And you should look for a track pack car to handle boost better and if it has an intake it really needs to be tuned...since it's mass air flow the intake and calibration for the Maf is everything
And if you must get a manual trans do yourself a favor and order the mgw shifter the first day!
Quote from: AJP turbo on January 22, 2018, 10:21:33 PM
Quote from: Brucelinc on January 22, 2018, 09:29:00 PM
I am seriously considering picking up a used Coyote Mustang. Two reasons: I think it would be fun going to the track with it. Secondly, it would make a nice project car...maybe adding a supercharger in the future among other things. There is tons of after market support for Mustangs and they are pretty bullet proof.
I am currently negotiating on a super clean 2016 with the 3.55 gear and manual 6 speed. It already has an Airaid CAI and a resonator delete. It has never been tuned but obviously that will change if I get it. Livernois has a good tune and I already have a MyCal. The car runs really well and sounds wickedly good.
If you are going for a 1/4 mile car get the automatic...throw a 6k blower on and a torque converter and drag radials and you can run 10's..ask me how I know....and bruce there are many excellent remote tuners for coyotes...you are no stranger to data logging now...you can get a way better tune doing it remotely than a dyno tune and I can refer you to a couple outstanding tuners
And you should look for a track pack car to handle boost better and if it has an intake it really needs to be tuned...since it's mass air flow the intake and calibration for the Maf is everything
And if you must get a manual trans do yourself a favor and order the mgw shifter the first day!
Thanks Brad. I have been looking on Autotrader and every other source and automatics are almost impossible to find in my area. I guess I am not necessarily looking for JUST a track car. A stick is a lot more fun to drive. The reason I mention Livernois is because I have a MyCal laying around gathering dust and I would like to make use of it. I would do mods in stages. I could see exploring other tuning options down the road.
By the way, I am not abandoning my Continental. With your tune, I can pretty much embarrass STOCK Coyote Mustangs.
Quote from: Brucelinc on January 23, 2018, 08:44:11 AM
Quote from: AJP turbo on January 22, 2018, 10:21:33 PM
Quote from: Brucelinc on January 22, 2018, 09:29:00 PM
I am seriously considering picking up a used Coyote Mustang. Two reasons: I think it would be fun going to the track with it. Secondly, it would make a nice project car...maybe adding a supercharger in the future among other things. There is tons of after market support for Mustangs and they are pretty bullet proof.
I am currently negotiating on a super clean 2016 with the 3.55 gear and manual 6 speed. It already has an Airaid CAI and a resonator delete. It has never been tuned but obviously that will change if I get it. Livernois has a good tune and I already have a MyCal. The car runs really well and sounds wickedly good.
If you are going for a 1/4 mile car get the automatic...throw a 6k blower on and a torque converter and drag radials and you can run 10's..ask me how I know....and bruce there are many excellent remote tuners for coyotes...you are no stranger to data logging now...you can get a way better tune doing it remotely than a dyno tune and I can refer you to a couple outstanding tuners
And you should look for a track pack car to handle boost better and if it has an intake it really needs to be tuned...since it's mass air flow the intake and calibration for the Maf is everything
And if you must get a manual trans do yourself a favor and order the mgw shifter the first day!
Thanks Brad. I have been looking on Autotrader and every other source and automatics are almost impossible to find in my area. I guess I am not necessarily looking for JUST a track car. A stick is a lot more fun to drive. The reason I mention Livernois is because I have a MyCal laying around gathering dust and I would like to make use of it. I would do mods in stages. I could see exploring other tuning options down the road.
By the way, I am not abandoning my Continental. With your tune, I can pretty much embarrass STOCK Coyote Mustangs.
I know and that's good because I am trying to wrap up some things that I think are going to help the Continental a good bit
And yes I agree on the stick being more fun but all things being equal I can't really run with the automatics...I barely run high 11's but at 130mph in my mustang....if you plan to go boosted on a coyote you don't want the 3.73's...that's what I have and it's not ideal
Quick question: My SCT x4 is married to my Continental. Can I still use it to pull a strategy code from a different Ford product without returning the Conti to stock first?
Quote from: Brucelinc on January 24, 2018, 01:21:27 PM
Quick question: My SCT x4 is married to my Continental. Can I still use it to pull a strategy code from a different Ford product without returning the Conti to stock first?
I think you can
Quote from: Brucelinc on January 24, 2018, 01:21:27 PM
Quick question: My SCT x4 is married to my Continental. Can I still use it to pull a strategy code from a different Ford product without returning the Conti to stock first?
Yes, I pulled the MKS strategy when it was married to Sparkie...
OMG...what have I done? 2016 GT Premium, manual trans, 3.55 gear, Navigation, factory 20" wheels/Pirelli summer tires. (not too good in Minnesota winter) 19,000 miles.
I am too old for model cars and Hotwheels so this is my big boy toy.
Quote from: Brucelinc on January 24, 2018, 04:35:12 PM
OMG...what have I done? 2016 GT Premium, manual trans, 3.55 gear, Navigation, factory 20" wheels/Pirelli summer tires. (not too good in Minnesota winter) 19,000 miles.
I am too old for model cars and Hotwheels so this is my big boy toy.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180124/4f7a84f89bb576843a141295e7edd757.jpg):o
^^^ LOL!!!
Simply irrestible! Tho it has black paint ...
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Nice ride Bruce! That will be fun to play with. :)
You haven't lived until you have driven a powerful RWD car with summer-only tires on snowy/icey roads.
Did that back in the day a few times in an '85 GT. Very entertaining. ;-)
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Quote from: Brucelinc on January 24, 2018, 06:11:12 PM
You haven't lived until you have driven a powerful RWD car with summer-only tires on snowy/icey roads.
I was going to ask how that went given all the snow we just got and the road conditions. You are a brave man sir!
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Quote from: Brucelinc on January 24, 2018, 06:11:12 PM
You haven't lived until you have driven a powerful RWD car with summer-only tires on snowy/icey roads.
I was going to ask how that went given all the snow we just got and the road conditions. You are a brave man sir!
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Yeah, it definitely got my attention a few times. Driving home from the dealership, my wife was following me in the Continental. When we got home she asked me why I kept fishtailing and told me that I should stop acting like an idiot. Hard to stop since I probably am an idiot!
Quote from: Brucelinc on January 22, 2018, 09:29:00 PM
I am seriously considering picking up a used Coyote Mustang. Two reasons: I think it would be fun going to the track with it. Secondly, it would make a nice project car...maybe adding a supercharger in the future among other things. There is tons of after market support for Mustangs and they are pretty bullet proof.
I am currently negotiating on a super clean 2016 with the 3.55 gear and manual 6 speed. It already has an Airaid CAI and a resonator delete. It has never been tuned but obviously that will change if I get it. Livernois has a good tune and I already have a MyCal. The car runs really well and sounds wickedly good.
Thanks for the kind words, we do actually have a very nice tune for the new mustangs, my buddy actually has a 2017 6 speed with the severe CAI, thermostat, axle back and our performance tune and he is absolutely in love with it!
Quote from: Livernois Motorsports on January 25, 2018, 09:49:20 AM
Quote from: Brucelinc on January 22, 2018, 09:29:00 PM
I am seriously considering picking up a used Coyote Mustang. Two reasons: I think it would be fun going to the track with it. Secondly, it would make a nice project car...maybe adding a supercharger in the future among other things. There is tons of after market support for Mustangs and they are pretty bullet proof.
I am currently negotiating on a super clean 2016 with the 3.55 gear and manual 6 speed. It already has an Airaid CAI and a resonator delete. It has never been tuned but obviously that will change if I get it. Livernois has a good tune and I already have a MyCal. The car runs really well and sounds wickedly good.
Thanks for the kind words, we do actually have a very nice tune for the new mustangs, my buddy actually has a 2017 6 speed with the severe CAI, thermostat, axle back and our performance tune and he is absolutely in love with it!
I just got off the phone with you. I look forward to your 91, 93 and flex fuel tunes!!
You'll have tons of fun with this tune and i look forward to some feedback on how the vehicle feels overall after the tune is applied!
The streets are so cold and damp here, I don't really know how it runs stock! Every time I get on it, it breaks the tires loose! Hopefully, it will dry up and I can get a better feel for it in the next few days.
I know a tune will not do as much for a naturally aspirated engine as it will for the ecoboost. However, your dyno charts for the Coyote look pretty impressive. I am hoping for a 12.5 second car in good air with the tune.....assuming I can launch and get through the gears well.
Ill be sure to post up my race results with my friend in the summer as well to see what he can do in his!
I think my Mustang is all hat and no cattle. It is loud, rough, bold and brash. However, I suspect my Continental could give it a good ass kicking over the quarter mile. I will soon have a tune for the 'stang and will be ordering some rear suspension goodies to help it launch and hook better. By the time the tracks open, I am hoping it will be ready for action.
I suspect your suspicions are correct
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I picked up some used wheels and all-season tires on Craigslist for my Mustang project car. Now I can drive it in cold temps. It has come to my attention that driver skill is going to come into the equation when I take the car to the track. Getting it to hook is not easy but I am ordering some pieces for the rear suspension that should help. Cody at Livernois returned my MyCal with tunes for the Mustang including their E85 tune. I appreciate Cody's quick and friendly service. I am going to drive it around some in stock tune before I flash it, though.
Quote from: Brucelinc on February 11, 2018, 10:15:05 AM
I picked up some used wheels and all-season tires on Craigslist for my Mustang project car. Now I can drive it in cold temps. It has come to my attention that driver skill is going to come into the equation when I take the car to the track. Getting it to hook is not easy but I am ordering some pieces for the rear suspension that should help. Cody at Livernois returned my MyCal with tunes for the Mustang including their E85 tune. I appreciate Cody's quick and friendly service. I am going to drive it around some in stock tune before I flash it, though.
I think track and driver got their best times by dropping the rear tires into the low 20's and the fronts in the mid 40's... not sure what they launched at? Maybe 2K RPMs? But yeah... rwd, light, and manual are going to make the driver mod even more important.
Should be fun regardless!
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I know this is an ecoboost forum so after this post I will avoid further comments on my Mustang 5.0. However, my random thought is that I loaded up Livernois' 93 octane tune in my Mustang yesterday. Holy Mother! I never dreamed they could do that much with a non-turbo engine. From 5000-7000 RPM, that thing is vicious! Even takes on a totally different sound than when stock....sounds like a NASCAR stocker. Now if I could only find some traction!! Can't wait until summer when I load up their E85 tune!!
We can always move the posts related to your Mustang to the non-ecoboost build section if you want ...
https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/board,133.0.html (https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/board,133.0.html)
Quote from: SHOdded on February 22, 2018, 09:53:41 AM
We can always move the posts related to your Mustang to the non-ecoboost build section if you want ...
https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/board,133.0.html (https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/board,133.0.html)
I never noticed that there was such a section!! Probably makes sense to move my Mustang posts there.
Quote from: Brucelinc on February 22, 2018, 09:51:03 AM
I know this is an ecoboost forum so after this post I will avoid further comments on my Mustang 5.0. However, my random thought is that I loaded up Livernois' 93 octane tune in my Mustang yesterday. Holy Mother! I never dreamed they could do that much with a non-turbo engine. From 5000-7000 RPM, that thing is vicious! Even takes on a totally different sound than when stock....sounds like a NASCAR stocker. Now if I could only find some traction!! Can't wait until summer when I load up their E85 tune!!
Glad i could help you get that tuner put on your mustang and bring some more life out of it! Have fun and keep us updated!
Gorgeous. I just saw this thread, but you had emailed me some photos! Beautiful stable you got now!
Quote from: Brucelinc on January 24, 2018, 04:35:12 PM
OMG...what have I done? 2016 GT Premium, manual trans, 3.55 gear, Navigation, factory 20" wheels/Pirelli summer tires. (not too good in Minnesota winter) 19,000 miles.
I am too old for model cars and Hotwheels so this is my big boy toy.
Did you photoshop that first picture? Man that looks awesome and congrats on another Ford!
I installed some suspension mods on my Mustang - pieces to basically stiffen the rear suspension and tie the rear subframe solidly to the unibody. The idea was to improve traction and reduce or eliminate any wheelhop.
The roads finally dried out so I could give the Livernois tune and the suspension mods a better test. I also have an Airaid CAI and a resonator delete H pipe installed. OMG, this beast feels strong and sounds violent. It hooks much better with the suspension mods and the engine just screams. I am looking forward to installing the summer tires and going to the track. The experience is so much different than my tuned Continental. It feels a lot faster but maybe I am being fooled because it is so stiff and loud compared to the Conti. Manuals often feel faster than automatics even when they aren't. Regardless, it sure is a blast to drive.
Fast & Furious - brucelinc edition
I was hoping for a fox but hey, a new coyote works too xP.
Check out corral and SVTPerformance when the mod bug bites again, lots of nice used parts on their forums. Also look into going for an E85 tune/fuel setup on the new project, they love the corn. I agree with AJP, for the most part for power, save up and get a blower/turbo setup. Don't nickle and dime yourself on bolt ons that you'll end up replacing for boost later anyway.
If you have patience you can get a pretty nice setup (supercharger or turbo) used on corral or svtp for a really nice price. I see them all the time.
I actually am in the process of buying a house, and then my dad is going to bring up my 03 V6 turbo project and we will hopefully get that finished up by summer. I also am going to look at a 'Roller' '92 hatchback today, its currently gutted, rust free (and in primer). The seller is going to throw in the 5.0, auto, and a bunch of interior/exterior parts she has as well. it was a family project with their grandfather and he passed, so they just want it gone. Only question is if I can get AAA to tow a 'roller' for me...but I digress.
Enjoy the coyote. I recommend doing oil pump gears as one of your first mods.
Hey Bruce just checking in on ya! Hows the vehicle doing? Get to have any big fun yet? Weather is pretty decent here right now not sure how its treating you though!
Quote from: Livernois Motorsports on February 27, 2018, 01:15:11 PM
Hey Bruce just checking in on ya! Hows the vehicle doing? Get to have any big fun yet? Weather is pretty decent here right now not sure how its treating you though!
It feels brutally fast. I have to watch the tach closely since it blasts to 7000 rpm and beyond VERY quickly. As soon as winter is over and "E85" is closer to 85% ethanol, I will load up your flex fuel tune. Looking forward to that!
Quote from: Brucelinc on February 27, 2018, 02:35:20 PM
Quote from: Livernois Motorsports on February 27, 2018, 01:15:11 PM
Hey Bruce just checking in on ya! Hows the vehicle doing? Get to have any big fun yet? Weather is pretty decent here right now not sure how its treating you though!
It feels brutally fast. I have to watch the tach closely since it blasts to 7000 rpm and beyond VERY quickly. As soon as winter is over and "E85" is closer to 85% ethanol, I will load up your flex fuel tune. Looking forward to that!
Sounds good! Cant wait to get your review once ou start using the e85 tune!
I got some new shoes for the hind legs of my pony. These better hook decently. We know what happens to a lame pony.....
Quote from: Brucelinc on March 22, 2018, 03:09:20 PM
I got some new shoes for the hind legs of my pony. These better hook decently. We know what happens to a lame pony.....
Taken out and SHOt?
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Quote from: Brucelinc on March 22, 2018, 03:09:20 PM
I got some new shoes for the hind legs of my pony. These better hook decently. We know what happens to a lame pony.....
Taken out and SHOt?
Exactly.
Quote from: Brucelinc on March 22, 2018, 03:09:20 PM
I got some new shoes for the hind legs of my pony. These better hook decently. We know what happens to a lame pony.....
Its funny i actually just did the same thing monday! Hows the tune running with those new tires? Gotta be alot more fun now!
As soon as I burn out more of the 93 that is in the tank I will load the E85 tune and fill it up with the joy juice....although it is still winter blend.
Quote from: Brucelinc on March 22, 2018, 04:33:46 PM
As soon as I burn out more of the 93 that is in the tank I will load the E85 tune and fill it up with the joy juice....although it is still winter blend.
Starting to warm out so as the season temps increase so will the fun!
Quote from: Brucelinc on January 24, 2018, 06:11:12 PM
You haven't lived until you have driven a powerful RWD car with summer-only tires on snowy/icey roads.
Haha you got that right. I drove home twice in my 95 GT with a 347 on 315 Nitto Radials in the snow. If you are touching the gas, you aren't pointed the direction of travel lol.
Congrats Bruce, nice to see you join the Mustang frat. I purchased a '98 Mustang GT Convertible last September and love it. Only downside is that it is an automatic and I really wanted a standard. But I couldn't pass up the deal I got. Next in my sights is the Shelby that I've been wanting for years....but will keep the other two....
Quote from: mjhpadi on April 01, 2018, 06:11:55 PM
Congrats Bruce, nice to see you join the Mustang frat. I purchased a '98 Mustang GT Convertible last September and love it. Only downside is that it is an automatic and I really wanted a standard. But I couldn't pass up the deal I got. Next in my sights is the Shelby that I've been wanting for years....but will keep the other two....
Our old friend, Larrylu, also got a manual Mustang....traded his SHO for it. He told me that he hadn't had as much fun in years!
Let us know when you get the Shelby. In the meantime enjoy the GT Convertible!
I'm starting to feel left out. I haven't driven any Mustang in a really really long time. Like since a five speed 1987 LX 5.0 ...............
Quote from: TSS on April 02, 2018, 11:01:05 AM
I'm starting to feel left out. I haven't driven any Mustang in a really really long time. Like since a five speed 1987 LX 5.0 ...............
They have progressed a bit since then. Other than ride quality, I am just as comfortable in the Mustang as the Lincoln and it is tons more fun to drive. The sound with the resonator delete is awesome. I just hope it will deliver a quicker ET than the Conti when I go to the track.
Quote from: Brucelinc on April 02, 2018, 02:13:44 PM
Quote from: TSS on April 02, 2018, 11:01:05 AM
I'm starting to feel left out. I haven't driven any Mustang in a really really long time. Like since a five speed 1987 LX 5.0 ...............
They have progressed a bit since then. Other than ride quality, I am just as comfortable in the Mustang as the Lincoln and it is tons more fun to drive. The sound with the resonator delete is awesome. I just hope it will deliver a quicker ET than the Conti when I go to the track.
What was your last run in the Linc? The 2016 @ 3.55 with good tires should get you into 12.7-12.5 .. the manual is going to hurt your times... but for drifting and actual tracking it should be super awesome.
The best I ran with the Conti was 12.8. I never did get to run it in very good air, though. Brad has told me that he can improve the transmission shifts on the Continental but we haven't pursued that yet. I am pretty sure it has a 12.6 in it with better shifts and good air.
I feel like the Mustang would beat the Conti from a roll but it is very difficult to get a good launch with the Mustang. The stick is fun to drive but I agree it will be a negative for drag racing.
Quote from: TSS on April 02, 2018, 11:01:05 AM
I'm starting to feel left out. I haven't driven any Mustang in a really really long time. Like since a five speed 1987 LX 5.0 ...............
Todd, don't feel left out, you are welcome to drive mine any time, but with the auto trans it does take some of the fun out of it. But now my problem is how do I make Mrs. understand that I should have 3 cars??? However, once she gets a new vehicle..in a toss up now whether she wants an F-150 or the new Ranger, I should have an easier time talking her into a Shelby. May have to take the approach that I will give the GT to our son.
Still shocked that Larry got a Mustang. I guess we are all in the mid-life crisis stage...but boy, am I loving it!
Quote from: mjhpadi on April 02, 2018, 07:39:25 PM
Quote from: TSS on April 02, 2018, 11:01:05 AM
I'm starting to feel left out. I haven't driven any Mustang in a really really long time. Like since a five speed 1987 LX 5.0 ...............
Todd, don't feel left out, you are welcome to drive mine any time, but with the auto trans it does take some of the fun out of it. But now my problem is how do I make Mrs. understand that I should have 3 cars??? However, once she gets a new vehicle..in a toss up now whether she wants an F-150 or the new Ranger, I should have an easier time talking her into a Shelby. May have to take the approach that I will give the GT to our son.
Still shocked that Larry got a Mustang. I guess we are all in the mid-life crisis stage...but boy, am I loving it!
This is why I'm single, LOL, as many cars as I want. Currently have a '92 5.0 auto fox, in process of putting it back together, an '87 5.0 5spd fox roller, body is rough but I'm using the interior and some other odds and ends for my '92. My '03 4.3L Turbo V6 project mustang, and the '15 Fusion. When its all said and done, it will be 2x mustangs, and the fusion, and I'll get rid of the '87, part by part.
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Quote from: TSS on April 02, 2018, 11:01:05 AM
I'm starting to feel left out. I haven't driven any Mustang in a really really long time. Like since a five speed 1987 LX 5.0 ...............
Todd, don't feel left out, you are welcome to drive mine any time, but with the auto trans it does take some of the fun out of it. But now my problem is how do I make Mrs. understand that I should have 3 cars??? However, once she gets a new vehicle..in a toss up now whether she wants an F-150 or the new Ranger, I should have an easier time talking her into a Shelby. May have to take the approach that I will give the GT to our son.
Still shocked that Larry got a Mustang. I guess we are all in the mid-life crisis stage...but boy, am I loving it!
[/quote] bruce you started a reunion post of us old farts on the old forum & a nice looking pony, with todd, larry & mark of course manu being around forever & know mike is lurking around with his models. anyway some of us had an end of life crisis. love my sho and still my show car but early last year went over to the dark side for my first love for a new dd. my ford club didn't disown me, but i'm the red head step child of the group.
A 10 sp Dodge srt 392 with shaker hood or hellcat in black would do it for me.....Or 2018 ZL1....speaking as an old fart...
[/quote] bruce you started a reunion post of us old farts on the old forum & a nice looking pony, with todd, larry & mark of course manu being around forever & know mike is lurking around with his models. anyway some of us had an end of life crisis. love my sho and still my show car but early last year went over to the dark side for my first love for a new dd. my ford club didn't disown me, but i'm the red head step child of the group.
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We all knew you were a Mopar guy at heart! If I wasn't so hard-headed Ford loyal, I would be looking at a Scat Pack Chally, myself.....or maybe even a Hellcat.
Quote from: Brucelinc on April 04, 2018, 09:29:09 AM
bruce you started a reunion post of us old farts on the old forum & a nice looking pony, with todd, larry & mark of course manu being around forever & know mike is lurking around with his models. anyway some of us had an end of life crisis. love my sho and still my show car but early last year went over to the dark side for my first love for a new dd. my ford club didn't disown me, but i'm the red head step child of the group.
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We all knew you were a Mopar guy at heart! If I wasn't so hard-headed Ford loyal, I would be looking at a Scat Pack Chally, myself.....or maybe even a Hellcat.
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I went from a taurus sho to a 2018 scat pack chally actually and it was definitely a fun switch we will put it like that plus we are actually the only company that can tune the 2018s and weve made some pretty impressive results with them! Check these videos out of the trackhawk and the challenger scat pack!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC-F-UQZe34 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC-F-UQZe34)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ek4wKg6UeY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ek4wKg6UeY)
Wow that JEEP damn!!!
Quote from: Skydogs on April 04, 2018, 12:11:36 PM
Wow that JEEP damn!!!
This jeep is insane! We cant wait to see what these cars do at the drag strip as well!
Quote from: Livernois Motorsports on April 04, 2018, 09:36:59 AM
Quote from: Brucelinc on April 04, 2018, 09:29:09 AM
bruce you started a reunion post of us old farts on the old forum & a nice looking pony, with todd, larry & mark of course manu being around forever & know mike is lurking around with his models. anyway some of us had an end of life crisis. love my sho and still my show car but early last year went over to the dark side for my first love for a new dd. my ford club didn't disown me, but i'm the red head step child of the group.
We all knew you were a Mopar guy at heart! If I wasn't so hard-headed Ford loyal, I would be looking at a Scat Pack Chally, myself.....or maybe even a Hellcat.
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I went from a taurus sho to a 2018 scat pack chally actually and it was definitely a fun switch we will put it like that plus we are actually the only company that can tune the 2018s and weve made some pretty impressive results with them! Check these videos out of the trackhawk and the challenger scat pack!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC-F-UQZe34 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC-F-UQZe34)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ek4wKg6UeY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ek4wKg6UeY)
[/quote]you guys are great, i'm running the 4+ on my sho for years without any issues, would tune my sp but it already scares me some times, their a8 shifts as fast as my sho a6 with your tune. 2 completely different cars, sho goes fast & you don't know it. the sp since it's suspension is tight & especially with shaker not having any sound deadening material, feels like driving a gen1 muscle car. you go fast but you know it. & bruce a hellcat insurance would eat you up. fca was smart they labelled the sp an r/t for insurance purposes.but sho is the one that brings home the show trophies. lots of challengers but only 1 show sho in st louis.
Mike, you have to be cold not to love the hipo Mopar stuff...if I were rich instead of good looking I would have a stable that included all brands of the pony and performance cars. Growing up in the muscle era, it really made us appreciate the return of high performance and fun to drive cars, after 20+ years without any true performance cars....imagine learning to drive in a world without Challengers, 'Cudas, Mustangs, Camaros, Roadrunners, GTX, AMX, Javalins, or 'Vettes...guess that's why I am loving the return of the cars of our eerreee younger days.
Quote from: mjhpadi on April 04, 2018, 09:01:11 PM
Mike, you have to be cold not to love the hipo Mopar stuff...if I were rich instead of good looking I would have a stable that included all brands of the pony and performance cars. Growing up in the muscle era, it really made us appreciate the return of high performance and fun to drive cars, after 20+ years without any true performance cars....imagine learning to drive in a world without Challengers, 'Cudas, Mustangs, Camaros, Roadrunners, GTX, AMX, Javalins, or 'Vettes...guess that's why I am loving the return of the cars of our eerreee younger days.
Yeah I have to say I have enjoyed having at least some options when I was looking for a HP sedan. I was looking for a RWD for a while, I ran a STS-V for 2 years, but also considered G8's, CTSV. Then there are the Euro beasts. Then I found the SHO and realized that given my wet weather her ein PNW it was a smarter move and have loved every minute of it!
I am mad, disappointed, embarrassed, PO'ed and disgusted with my Mustang. I ran it today and it was a mess. Violent wheelhop in 1st and 2nd gears. So bad that it was just a matter of time until I broke something. I had installed a kit that was supposed to stop or at least help that but it did no good.
The car is making good power and I know how to shift it but I cannot race it like this. I still like Mustangs but I will be looking for one with an automatic. They do not suffer from the wheelhop problem like the manual cars do. This is a well known issue with manual Mustangs with the independent rear suspension. It can be fixed with solid bushings in the rear suspension but the fix makes the car a very poor daily driver - adds terrible noise, vibration and harshness.
At least I cut a pretty good light.
Bummer Bruce. Sorry you weren't happy with it. The mph is pretty good so it seems like the car should run great if it would hook (well not hop). Agreed on your reaction time. Nice job!
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Bummer indeed :( Man that reaction time, tho, is outta this world!
My Mustang should be a mid to low 12 second car. What is frustrating is that Ford equips these with line lock and launch control. Trying to use them just causes the rear end to go into a spastic fit. I can slip the clutch and feather the throttle to avoid wheel hop in 1st gear but the real problem is on the 1-2 shift where it is unbearable.
I am jealous of you SHO and MKS guys with AWD and automatic transmissions. Next time I go to the track it will be with my Continental!
what did you race that cut a 1.3 60'!? my god that's a rocket!
Drove my buddies 2015 PP at the track and cut high 1.8s on all seasons. His was completely stock though. Burnout had to be in second gear or it hopped badly, launch was at 3k feathered. I took it easy on the 1-2.
Quote from: Colorado-SHOBro on April 30, 2018, 10:40:36 AM
what did you race that cut a 1.3 60'!? my god that's a rocket!
Was thinking the same.....
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This jackwagon cut a 1.1 60' ft... I ALMOST had the guy... seriously...LMAO...
When I lined up, this dragster pulls next to me in the left lane... I looked at the pit crew and asked "Are you serious?"
I had him off the line for .027 seconds...
Quote from: dubcitySHO on April 30, 2018, 12:14:51 PM
Quote from: Colorado-SHOBro on April 30, 2018, 10:40:36 AM
what did you race that cut a 1.3 60'!? my god that's a rocket!
Was thinking the same.....
It was an all-out race car on slicks - a Chevelle if I recall. This event had everything from Nashs to Harley-David sons.
great r/a bruce, man the pros rarely get there. the wheel hop manuals is not a pony problem alone. hear same thing on the manual chally scat packs. the a8 though is a totally different animal. line works no wheel hop @ 1500rpm, but if shifting manual got to be really on the ball or will hit the rev limiter in 1 or 2, the a8 smoke the manuals every time. well you got that hot-rod lincoln to fall back on. she has made a fool of a number of hot shots.
Will I see you at Brainerd on Wednesday, Bruce? It would be fun to line up together, whichever car you want to bring.
Quote from: hawkeye93 on April 30, 2018, 05:06:16 PM
Will I see you at Brainerd on Wednesday, Bruce? It would be fun to line up together, whichever car you want to bring.
Fun for you and your meth burner, I am sure. I was going until I found out how bad the Mustang wheel hops. I am done with it. I am not running the Conti until I get a better tune for the transmission. Doubt if I have it by Wednesday.
Ah poop.
Quote from: mval on April 30, 2018, 05:00:04 PM
great r/a bruce, man the pros rarely get there. the wheel hop manuals is not a pony problem alone. hear same thing on the manual chally scat packs. the a8 though is a totally different animal. line works no wheel hop @ 1500rpm, but if shifting manual got to be really on the ball or will hit the rev limiter in 1 or 2, the a8 smoke the manuals every time. well you got that hot-rod lincoln to fall back on. she has made a fool of a number of hot shots.
I am on a major Mustang forum and there is a list of the best quarter mile times for Mustangs. Automatics dominate the list.
Quote from: Brucelinc on April 30, 2018, 07:00:36 PM
Quote from: hawkeye93 on April 30, 2018, 05:06:16 PM
Will I see you at Brainerd on Wednesday, Bruce? It would be fun to line up together, whichever car you want to bring.
Fun for you and your meth burner, I am sure. I was going until I found out how bad the Mustang wheel hops. I am done with it. I am not running the Conti until I get a better tune for the transmission. Doubt if I have it by Wednesday.
Is there an inexpensive way to stop the wheel hopping? Or at a minimum bring it within a manageable amount?
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Basically replacing all rubber bushings in the rear suspension with hard bushings, replacing some links with upgraded pieces and running drag radials the fix. Those who have done it report a lot of noise and harshness and don't recommend it for street driving. Replacing some of the bushings require significant suspension disassembly and use of a press.
I did install a kit that clamps down on some of the rubber bushings making them stiffer and also installed some steel braces that are sort of like traction bars that are used on leaf springs. I have about $500 invested in suspension parts but it doesn't seem that they helped much. The cost of a complete fix doesn't bother me as much as making the noise, vibration and harshness too much for decent street use.
Quote from: Brucelinc on April 30, 2018, 07:00:36 PM
Quote from: hawkeye93 on April 30, 2018, 05:06:16 PM
Will I see you at Brainerd on Wednesday, Bruce? It would be fun to line up together, whichever car you want to bring.
Fun for you and your meth burner, I am sure. I was going until I found out how bad the Mustang wheel hops. I am done with it. I am not running the Conti until I get a better tune for the transmission. Doubt if I have it by Wednesday.
That's too bad. I took the day off work to play some poker in the morning, followed by some racing in the evening. It's almost like being a bachelor again.
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Quote from: Brucelinc on April 30, 2018, 09:13:19 PM
Basically replacing all rubber bushings in the rear suspension with hard bushings, replacing some links with upgraded pieces and running drag radials the fix. Those who have done it report a lot of noise and harshness and don't recommend it for street driving. Replacing some of the bushings require significant suspension disassembly and use of a press.
I did install a kit that clamps down on some of the rubber bushings making them stiffer and also installed some steel braces that are sort of like traction bars that are used on leaf springs. I have about $500 invested in suspension parts but it doesn't seem that they helped much. The cost of a complete fix doesn't bother me as much as making the noise, vibration and harshness too much for decent street use.
Yikes! Seems like Ford dropped the ball a bit on these MY mustangs...
I completely agree with you, don't want to sacrifice street ability for track use...
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Here are the top 15 stock Mustangs from the forum that I am in. Only 2 with manual transmissions and both had the performance package and 3.73 gears. PP cars do have stiffer rear suspensions so they must not hop as much. The automatics do not suffer from wheel hop like the sticks do.
Quote from: Brucelinc on April 30, 2018, 09:13:19 PM
Basically replacing all rubber bushings in the rear suspension with hard bushings, replacing some links with upgraded pieces and running drag radials the fix. Those who have done it report a lot of noise and harshness and don't recommend it for street driving. Replacing some of the bushings require significant suspension disassembly and use of a press.
I did install a kit that clamps down on some of the rubber bushings making them stiffer and also installed some steel braces that are sort of like traction bars that are used on leaf springs. I have about $500 invested in suspension parts but it doesn't seem that they helped much. The cost of a complete fix doesn't bother me as much as making the noise, vibration and harshness too much for decent street use.
$500 in suspension on a mustang is basically nothing... My rear control arms and lowering springs alone cost that much or more. What setup exactly do you have? there are some known good brands, and some known bad, and some in the middle...
A rep from BMR suspension and members of the Mustang forum recommended these to stop the hop but not add any noise vibration or harshness. It is what I have now.
Gotcha,
BMR is a good company so no issue there... I wonder how track prep was? that could affect things as well...
IRS is definitely not the best rear end platform for drag racing, but you have to live with it on a newer stang.
I might suggest calling UPR and talking to them as well, they have always steered me in a good direction and been super helpful in my endeavors.